John 3 — Dennis Kinlaw

John 3 — Dennis Kinlaw

Our scripture lesson this evening is a very familiar one. It's the third chapter of John. Hear the word, this very familiar passage. Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council, who came to Jesus at night and said, Rabbi, we know you're a teacher who has come from God, for no one could perform the miraculous signs you're doing if God were not with him.

In reply, Jesus declared, I tell you the truth, unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. How can a man be born when he's old, Nicodemus asked? Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born.

Jesus answered, I tell you the truth, unless a man is born of water in the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, you must be born again.

The wind blows wherever it pleases, you hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the spirit. How can this be, Nicodemus asked? You are Israel's teacher, said Jesus, and do you not understand these things?

I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe. How then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven, the Son of Man. Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

Everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.

Will you pray with me for a moment? Our Father, we know that if your word is to come alive to us, we need you to give to us your Holy Spirit to quicken our minds and our hearts to see. So we ask you tonight to come to us again.

You've done it before, but we need it again. And so we pray that tonight you will come and touch every heart and every mind here. We thank you that we can trust you to keep your promise to us, because you did promise that if we'd come together in your name and ask you, you'd be in our midst and you would bless.

So meet us tonight, we ask, and we will give you praise in Jesus' name. Amen. This passage, I suppose, is about as familiar as any portion of the New Testament. Yet it's a passage that I do not think I ever really put together fully before a matter of a year or so ago.

It began to break through to me how this passage relates to the rest of the Gospel of John and to the rest of the ministry of Jesus. Now I'm not going to suggest that I've seen by any means all of it.

One of the miracles to me about the Word of God is the way you can spend your life with it and you will find familiar portions, you know this as well as I, that you've read a thousand times and suddenly you'll see something that you never saw before.

John the Baptist Announces the Messiah

But in recent years I've begun to see the way this story fits into the chronology of Jesus' life. And when I saw it in the chronology of Jesus' life, I saw something that I had never seen before, and it cleared up a problem in the passage for me that had been there through the years.

Let me go back for a few minutes and reconstruct the months in the life of Jesus prior to this event. Now to do that, you have to read not only John 1 and 2, but you have to read the early part of the Gospel of Mark, or else you have to read Matthew or Luke.

Because John gives you one segment of the life of Jesus, and Mark, Matthew and Luke add to it and supplement it. You will remember John tells us about how his ministry began. It began down by the Jordan River, the first chapter tells us about it.

John the Baptist had come preaching. It had been hundreds of years since there had been an authentic prophetic voice in Israel, and now one appears again. And the hearts of the people responded so fervently that we are told that the whole countryside went out to hear him.

You will read in the Gospel that it says, all Judea, all Jerusalem and all Judea went out to hear him. That would be like a preacher coming along in the Chicago area and somebody saying, all Chicago and all Illinois went out to hear him.

Now that's the kind of impact John the Baptist had. The impact that he had was so great that the temple said, what's going on here? It would be interesting if you had a preacher emerge in the United States who won great crowds of people to him, and he came with such sort of sudden impact that everybody said, this is an astounding new star on the horizon.

And when he appeared, some newspaper reporter went to him to get his story and said, what denomination are you? And he said, I'm a Methodist. And when that story was read in the bishop's house, his wife would look over at the bishop and say, who is this guy?

I never heard of him. And the bishop would say, you know, that's strange. I never heard of him either. Now that's the way John the Baptist exploded on the scene. The temple had nothing to do with him.

He was down there in the wilderness and he came out preaching and everybody went out to hear him. Now he made such an impact that there are indications in the text that people thought, wait a minute, this may be the Christ.

If you read John 1, you will find that a delegation was sent from the temple to John the Baptist to ask him who he was. And when they came to ask him, they asked him, are you the Christ? Now you will remember that Israel had been waiting for 1900 years for the Christ.

And through the centuries, as they passed, the picture of what he was to be like had developed and become clearer. Now, the last 400 years had passed without any authentic voice, but the hope of the Messiah had not died.

And the stamp of the Roman heel on Israel made every good Jew wish he'd show up and get those Romans off their backs. And now John appears and they said, could this be the one we've been waiting for? The mark of God was on him.

So the delegation came down from the temple and they said, are you the Christ? And he said, no. They said, then who are you? He said, I'm his voice. I'm his front man. I've come to get you ready for him.

And he's out there in the crowd. Now it was the temple's business to check out any spiritual leader that developed in Israel. Do you think that delegation went back to Jerusalem that day when he said to them, he's out there in the crowd?

I suspect some of them stayed around to see if they could locate him. We know that the next day John saw Jesus coming. And when he saw Jesus coming, he raised his voice and said, there he is, the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.

Now if any of that delegation was there, you can count on it that their eyes got big and they zeroed in to see who this was, that John the Baptist, the most authentic spiritual voice in 400 years in Israel, the one that John said, he's the Christ.

And so you will remember John baptized him. After he baptized him, you will remember the spirit of God descended upon him. And John turned to the crowd and said, here's the proof. I was told beforehand that I would know him by the descent of the spirit of God upon him.

This is he for whom we look. Now, you will remember, if you remember the first chapter of John, that the next day John sees Jesus coming and he calls out again, behold, the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.

This is the one whom you seek and this is the one that you're supposed to follow. Now, there were some guys listening to John who were friends of John. In fact, they were more than friends. They were disciples of John.

One of them's name was Andrew. And the probabilities are that the other one was either James or John. And you will remember they looked at each other and said, we've been following John and thought he was the one we were to follow.

He says we're to follow him. Now, we believe John about everything else. Why shouldn't we believe him on this? So they came to Jesus and said, where you stay in the night, master? And they went home with him.

And after they'd spend a little time with Jesus, Andrew said, I got to go get my brother. And he went and found Peter and he said, we found the one for whom Israel looks, the one of whom all the law and the prophets have spoken.

Now, you see, Andrew was saying this is one we've been looking for. Now, you will remember Simon Peter came and that's where he began to follow Jesus. Now, you will remember that the next day Jesus bumps into Philip and he says to Philip, follow me.

And Philip says, good, but let me go get my buddy first. And he goes to get Nathaniel. And when he gets to Nathaniel, he says to Nathaniel, come see, we have found the Messiah. Now, do you see how early in the life of Jesus, Jesus was identified by his closely knit group as the Messiah?

I read the gospel for years and thought it was only 30, 36 months later. You will remember when at Caesarea Philippi, Jesus turned to the disciples and said, who do you think I am? And Peter said, you're the Christ.

Now, that's in Mark. But if you read John, the second day of his public ministry, there are people identifying him other than John the Baptist as the Christ. So when Philip says to Nathaniel, we found him, Nathaniel says, where is he from?

And he says, well, he's from Wilmore. He's from Nazareth. And Nathaniel said, can any good thing come out of that place? And Philip says, you come and see. And when he came, he turned to him and said, yes, you are the king of Israel, the son of God.

It is very interesting to me that the first three days of Jesus' public ministry, every major messianic title was used of Jesus by one of the persons who heard him. He was called the king of Israel. He was called the son of God.

He was called the lamb of God. He was called the Christ. He was called the one whom we seek, the one of whom Moses and all the prophets spoke. Now, with that background, you will remember on the fourth day, Jesus said, I've got to go north.

Do you want to go with me? And so these five or six fellows went along with him. They came to Cana and at Cana, he performed his first miracle. And when he performed that miracle, if you remember the passage, John, the evangelist, the gospel writer, says after he performed that miracle, that his disciples believed on him there.

Now, I felt that they had had some kind of belief when they left their jobs, their homes, their friends, their families to follow him in the first place. But you see, now they see him perform a miracle and their faith is confirmed.

And they're saying, yeah, this is the one. They left Cana and came to Capernaum. Now, Jesus made Capernaum his hometown for the next three years, and he operated in and out of Capernaum. And you read about it in the first chapter of Mark.

Jesus’ Authority Over Demons and Disease

You will remember that on the Sabbath, he shows up in the synagogue. It was his business to go to to worship on the Sabbath. And so he shows up in the synagogue and they give him the text and he begins to teach.

And as he taught, the people in the crowd said, he's different, isn't he? I love the passage. Now, my mind's sort of queer, so you'll forgive me if I the way I think of it. But I can see Andrew and Simon Peter listening to him and I can see old Peter nudge Andy and said, Andy, did you ever hear a preacher preach like that?

He's different, isn't he? And Andy say, yeah, Pete, what is it that's so different about him? And Peter looks back and says he makes sense. How long since you heard a preacher that made sense? You see, the text says he spoke as one who had authority.

Now, who is a person who has authority? A person who has authority is a person who knows what he's talking about. Now, you know as well as I that oftentimes those of us in the pulpit, we don't sound like we know a great deal about what we're talking about.

Our sermon just blew right past you. I'll never forget a lawyer my younger days. I had my church. He'd come out afterwards and look at me with a quizzical look in his face and say, what under the sun were you talking about this morning, Ken Law?

I thank God for a little Irish grandmother that had about 20 grandchildren who'd come out after him and say, thank you, son. And she helped me along. But nevertheless, I think that what is being said there is that they listened to him and they said, for heaven's sakes, he sounds as if he knows who we are.

He sounds as if he knows where we are. I'll never forget a lady who said, why do you always point that finger at me? I didn't even know she was there. But you see, that's that's when God is in it. When the person listening said, that's that's me, that's how he's talking about, you see, I think they felt he knows who we are.

He sounds as if he knows where we are. He sounds as if he knows where we ought to be. He sounds as if he knows how he could get us there. And they said he sounds as if he knows what he's talking about.

And the great crowds came to hear him. Now, while he was preaching, you will remember there was a demoniac in the crowd. And he disturbed the service. And so Jesus turned and rebuked the evil spirit and set out.

And the evil spirit, you will remember, was removed, banished. And the man was sane and well and normal and whole. And you remember, Mark says that the people in the crowd nudged each other and says, what kind of authority is this?

He has power even over the demonic. I want to tell you the way I understand that. I think they said, I think Peter looked at Andrew and said, Andrew, do you see him? He took the devil right out of that guy.

He took the evil right out of his heart. Do you think he could take the evil out of my heart? Do you know anybody who hasn't sometime somewhere wished he could find somebody who could deliver him from the evil in his heart?

I don't believe there's anybody that's ever lived that hasn't sometime somewhere wished he could find somebody who could deliver him from the evil in his heart. And they said he has power even over the demonic.

You can understand why people came to hear him. They flooded the place. You will remember Peter said, let's let's take him home with us. And so Peter did. When they got home, his mother-in-law was ill.

And so Jesus healed Peter's mother-in-law. The next story is the healing of a leper. So what are you getting now? He speaks to their heads and their hearts. He shows them he has power over the demonic, over evil, Satan himself.

He has power over the physical body. He can take a leper who is separated from his family and his friends and his job, isolated and restore him to the bosom of his home, to his, to those he loves and to his normal life.

He has all of this. Little wonder great crowds came to hear him. And Jesus said, boys, we better leave. And so he took them away and preached somewhere else. Now, I think the reason he left was so that they'd have time to think through some questions.

What do you think they talked about in Capernaum when he left? I think all they talked about was Jesus and what they'd seen him do and what they'd heard about him. And in due time, he came back after they'd soaked a little.

And when he came back, the grapevine spread it real quickly and said, he's back. And nobody asked who he was. They all knew. And they came together in the synagogue. And it was so jammed, there was no way for people on the outside to get to him.

The Paralytic: Physical Need and Forgiven Sin

And in that crowd out there were four fellows who had a paralytic friend and they were bringing him so he could, Jesus could heal him. You see, they believed that whoever this guy was, he could heal their friend who was paralyzed.

You see, who Jesus was, was beginning to be known. And so, when they got there and they couldn't get to him, they climbed up on the roof and they opened the tiles, lifted the tiles over where Jesus was speaking and lured him right down.

It's tremendous drama in these stories, isn't it? It was a group like this one, much bigger than this. But suddenly, right at about this point in the service, suddenly the roof comes off and down comes a guy.

And as he comes down, Jesus looks over at him and calmly says, son, your sins are forgiven you. Now, that created some interesting reactions. I'm sure one of those four guys upstairs nudged the guy next to him and said, what did he say?

And the first guy and the guy who got nudged said, I thought he said his sins are forgiven. And the first guy said, yeah, that's what I thought he said. How'd religion get into this? They didn't bring him because he was a sinner.

They brought him because he was a paralytic. They didn't think of their buddy as a sinner. They knew his need was physical and this guy could meet physical needs. And now Jesus is talking about something else.

Now, wait. Mark tells us that there were some Pharisees over against the wall. Who were those Pharisees? I think they were the same people that went to see John the Baptist. They were there from the temple.

If the temple wanted to know whether John was the Christ before anybody had really identified him and without his ever performing a miracle. Do you think the temple didn't keep an eye on Jesus when he was turning water to wine and cleansing lepers and exercising the demons?

Demons and healing people. You can count on it. All three of the synoptics give evidence that from the opening days of Jesus ministry, the temple had its eye on Jesus and they followed him the same way.

J. Edgar Hoover's FBI followed Martin Luther King and there they stand. And one of nudges the Pharisee next to him said, what did he say? And the Pharisee who got nudged said, I thought he said his sins are forgiven.

And the first Pharisee said, yeah, with some apoplexy. That's what I thought. He said, who does he think he is? Nobody can forgive sins, but God and God alone. And, you know, at that point, I think Jesus looked over and caught the eye of that first Pharisee and went and said, that's right, boys.

You're catching on because he's going to do what only God can do. Then who is he? Now, Jesus never looked at him and said, I'm the Christ. He just did the Christ work. He did more than what they thought the Christ would do.

He did God's work. Now, don't you think that shook Jerusalem up? The temple said we better get on top of this. And then the first Passover came. And at Passover, every good Jew came to Jerusalem. And so Jesus headed for Jerusalem.

Jesus Cleanses the Temple and Confronts Narrow Religion

And he comes with several months of messianic work and witness behind him. Now, when he came to Jerusalem, where did he go? You know, when the president is inaugurated, where does he go? He goes to the White House, doesn't he?

It's his house. It's his. He's been elected. But more than that, he's been inaugurated. And the whole world knows now who he is. And it's his house. And he walks in and takes over. And so Jesus headed for the temple.

That's where the Christ belonged to go when he came to Jerusalem. It was his house. And when he walked in, you'll remember he didn't like what he saw. The same way Nancy rearranged the furniture in the White House, Jesus started rearranging some things.

The priest came to him and said, who do you think you are? This is not your house. He said, that's where you made a mistake. It is my house. It's my father's house. And you made it for me. And they said, we'll have to get rid of this guy.

And the next story is. Nicodemus comes to see him at night. Now, you know, I think there's an interlude in between that John didn't bother to tell us. Are you going to tell me that when Jesus walked in and looked at those priests and said, this is my father's house and he straightened it out?

Are you going to tell me they didn't have an emergency meeting of the Sanhedrin? You know, jolly well, they did. If I came into your house with you and started rearranging the furniture in your house, your wife would say, come here, who is that guy and who does he think he is?

Well, they had an emergency meeting of the Sanhedrin and they said, what are we going to do with this guy? Do you know who was in that emergency meeting of the Sanhedrin? Nicodemus was in it. You know, that never crossed my mind until fairly recently.

So when Nicodemus shows up at night to visit Jesus, is he officially there or unofficially? Was he sent by the Sanhedrin or did he go on his own? It really doesn't matter because, you know, sometimes unofficial visits are more official than official visits.

If you've ever been involved in that kind of thing, you know that usually the real work is done unofficially and the official work is just sealing what's already been settled. So Nicodemus shows up to Jesus and he says, we know you're a great guy because nobody could do the stuff you're doing if God wasn't with him.

And Jesus looked at him, now you know that indicates that he'd done a lot more miracles than John has told us. Nicodemus says, we know that you've come from God because nobody could do the things you've been doing if God weren't with him.

They knew all about his miracles. And Jesus looks at him and says, Nicodemus, unless you are born from above, you cannot see the kingdom of God. Now that's interesting. Unless you are born from above, you cannot see the kingdom of God.

Now let me make two comments there, things I never noticed. Nicodemus was a member of the Sanhedrin and a leader of the people of Israel, a leader of the Jews. Later on in this passage, Jesus looks at him when Nicodemus has said, I'm an old man, can I enter my mother's womb the second time and be born?

I don't understand you. Jesus looks at him and says, are you the teacher in Israel? And you don't understand these things. Now my translation doesn't say the teacher, the Greek does. Now let me tell you something, Jesus was a Hebrew.

I taught Hebrew for several years. In Hebrew you don't have a superlative form. You know how we say good, better, best. And the best is the superlative of good. Or bad, worse, worst. And worst is the superlative negatively.

Or we add ER and it's a comparative and EST and it's the superlative. Hebrew doesn't have that. If you want to say the best looking man in the house, you say he is the best looking man. You just put the article in front of it.

If you want to say the best looking woman, you say she is the best looking woman. And if she's the best looking woman, there's nobody else or equal. Jesus looks at Nicodemus and says, are you the teacher in Israel?

And you don't understand these things. Now hold on. You notice he says, you cannot see the kingdom of God unless you're born from above. I read that for years and never noticed something. You know how common the expression the kingdom of God is in the teaching of Jesus?

For the kingdom of heaven is like or the kingdom of God is like and the parables are all introduced that way. And seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these other. Let me tell you something.

The expression the kingdom of God occurs only twice in all 21 chapters of the gospel of John. All the expressions about the kingdom of God in the gospels other than two are in Matthew, Mark and Luke. Once Jesus used with one person twice the reference to the kingdom of God is with Nicodemus.

Now do you know why? I think I know why and I think it's this. He was the teacher in Israel. What was Israel's basic most important teaching? It was about the messianic kingdom. It was about the kingdom that was to come.

It was about the kingdom of God. And Nicodemus was Israel's expert on it. He said Nicodemus you got a PhD in the subject and you know all the language. But you'll never see what you lecture on and you'll never enter into it unless you're touched from above.

God’s Love for the Whole World

Now here's where let me jump something. Do you know I never understood why this passage ends with John 3 .16 until recently. You see John 3 .16 says God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son.

That is the climax of the passage where Jesus says to Nicodemus you'll never see the kingdom of God until you're born from above. Now let me tell you what happened when Jesus cleansed the temple. The archaeologists tell us that they have dug up enough remnants of stones that they now know that around the temple court when Jesus walked in it to cleanse it that first time.

He walked past I think it was 16 stones strategically placed that said any Gentile who goes farther into the temple. Any Gentile who goes beyond this point will promptly be stoned to death. Wouldn't it be interesting if in the Methodist church up here in the narthex there was a sign that said any Baptist who goes beyond this point will probably be shot.

Now I can remember in Wilmore when across the street from the college where the seminary is now there was a little Baptist church. And some of us used to enjoy going over there. There weren't too many Baptists in Wilmore in those days.

And a Baptist preacher would preach about once a month on the heresy of the people who believed what they taught across the street. So we'd go to listen and hear. But none of them ever shot us or executed us.

But when Jesus walked into the temple there were those stones placed saying any Gentile who goes beyond this point will be subject to stoning immediately. Now why were those there? You see the Jews thought the kingdom of God was for the Jews.

The Jews thought the kingdom of God was for the Jews. He was their God. And the Christ was going to be their Christ. And the king of Israel was going to be their king. And these defiling, unclean Gentiles you'd have to keep out.

Is that why Jesus talked about God loving the world in this passage? You see the end of chapter 2 is the cleansing of the temple. Chapter 3 is Nicodemus. He's just gone in. But now what did he say when he went into the temple?

If you look at the cleansing of the temple, he did it twice, at the beginning of his ministry and at the end. His ministry is sandwiched in between these two demonstrations of his messianic rites. You will find that he calls it his father's house and he calls it a house of prayer.

Now, it's interesting that those two expressions lead us to two passages in the Old Testament which I never saw until the last three years. One of these is Jeremiah 7 where Jeremiah stands in the temple courts and God says, preach to them.

And he did and what he preached was, the temple, the temple, the temple, don't ever let me hear you say the word again in the temple courts. Because you think the temple, because you got it and you own it, you'll be protected from the judgments of God.

Now, that's the Jeremiah 7 passage. You know, there are a lot of people that think we're special because we're Christians. And we're part of the Christian West and we're Methodists or Baptists or Episcopalians or Lutherans and so we've got a special corner.

Jeremiah said, pure superstition. If your heart isn't right and if you're not walking with God and if you don't know God, the temple will be your judgment instead of your salvation. That's one of the passages.

Now, what's the other one? The other one is Isaiah 56. I wish we had the time to open it and go through it. We don't. But you ought to read Isaiah 56. You know what's in Isaiah 56? That's the passage where it says, my Father's house will be a house of prayer for all nations.

700 years before Jesus came along, God said the temple is to be a house of prayer for all nations. And he says, the Gentiles, the foreigners, will come from the ends of the earth to these courts, will make their sacrifices to me and their sacrifices will be acceptable in my sight.

That's what the Old Testament text promises. And when Jesus walked into the temple courts the first time, he walked past 16 stones that says, God was wrong. The temple's not for the Gentiles, the temple's for good Jews.

Do you understand why he got a little upset? Now, I read for years and never hooked those pieces together. And Jesus stands and says, Nicodemus, you see, you've never been quickened. You've never had the Holy Spirit touch your heart and open your eyes.

And so you see the kingdom is just for you Jews. But my Father, my Father's not that narrow.

My Father loves a whole world.

It's his world. And his heart breaks for it. And he loves it so much, he's sending his only Son. And I'm he that I can die for it. Now, that's the background, I think, for John 3 .16. You see, they narrowed it.

Now, I guess that's especially poignant to me because I spent three years in a Jewish university and had developed some friendships with some interesting non-Gentiles. I remember one friend of mine who grew up on the streets of Brooklyn.

His life ambition was to get a Ph .D. from a good American Eastern University and go to Israel and spend the rest of his life farming. I thought maybe if I grew up on the streets of Brooklyn, I'd understand that.

But I'll never forget one day he turned to me and said, Oh, Kenlaw, you're nothing but an old goy. And I knew I was his friend then. Because a goy is the Hebrew word for the lowest form of human existence.

He looked at me and said, You're nothing but an old goy. It's the Hebrew word for a Gentile. Gentiles are unclean. Gentiles defile everything they touch. No good Jew can eat with a Gentile. And so they kept these defiling Gentiles out of the temple courts.

God's courts were supposed to be clean. Jesus looks at Nicodemus and says, Nicodemus, you've narrowed it. You've narrowed it. My father built this place for the whole world. And that's what I've come for.

Narrowed Gospel and the Church’s Mission

Now you say, we wouldn't do that. But you know we have. One of the greatest days in the history of the church was the period of Martin Luther and John Calvin. All of us look back with gratitude to the Reformation.

I notice that even the Roman Catholic Church today is beginning to look back with gratitude to Martin Luther and John Calvin for saving the doctrine of salvation by grace through faith alone. But do you know something?

In the Reformation, do you know what one of their major doctrines was? That only the predestined are saved. That God has a bunch of favorites. He picks out a whole string of people and says, they'll be saved.

And he either picks out the rest and says, let them be damned. Or he just simply bypasses them with salvation. The doctrine of predestination, election. That's an interesting view of God, isn't it? It's no accident that in the Reformation, they talked more about the sovereignty of God than they did the fatherhood of God.

So they theologized a narrowing. And you know the interesting thing? Most of the people that they believed were elect were white. And Westerners. And particularly Germans. Because that's where they were.

They narrowed it. Now, I'm a Methodist. And at this point, you know, I take a little pride because Wesley came along and said that couldn't be. Wesley said when he came along, he found the gospel table had been set by the Reformers.

But the invitation list was too narrow. And that the invitation list had to be extended. And so he knocked both ends out of the gospel table and lengthened it and stood up and said, whosoever will may come.

Now, that's closer, isn't it? But you know, one of the things I noticed in the Methodist Church now? In the Methodist Church now, we say, everybody is going to be saved. God would never let anybody go to hell.