May 14, 2026 Show with Jonathan Blair and Joshua Enck on “A Great Awakening: Why This Film Was Made, & Why George Whitefield Was Chosen As Its Primary Focus”

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We're listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Thursday on the 14th day of May, 2026. I'm absolutely thrilled to have an actor with us today for the very first time, who is starring in a movie that is truly my favorite Christian movie that I've ever seen.

Perhaps many of you have already heard my review of this movie, along with my co-host Kurt M. Smith, who is a George Whitefield biographer and pastor of Providence Reformed Baptist Church of Renlap, Alabama, where we were expressing how much we loved this film and how we were urgently telling all listening to go see this movie and to bring not only family, friends, and loved ones, but their church members and perhaps even especially the lost to see this movie.

But I am so thrilled to have with us Jonathan Blair, the actor who portrayed the 18th century preacher George Whitefield in the film A Great Awakening, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Jonathan Blair.

Thank you, Chris. Thank you, guys. It's good to be here.

Yes, it's somewhat surreal because I think that I'm interviewing George Whitefield here after the magnificent performance that Jonathan gave in the film. And we do have joining us again to co-host this program the aforementioned Kurt M. Smith, who is pastor of Providence Reformed Baptist Church of Renlap, Alabama, and also the author of the aforementioned biography of George Whitefield, Thundering the Word, The Awakening Ministry of George Whitefield.

Welcome back to the program, Pastor Kurt.

Thank you, Chris. Good to be back. And and I'm especially thrilled to be part of this program, to be to be actually part of this interview with Jonathan Blair. Great. Great to meet you, Jonathan.

Good to meet you, too.

And I do want to let our listeners know that joining us for the second hour of the program will be Joshua Enk, who is director of the film A Great Awakening. So I'm looking forward to that interview as well after the first hour.

But before I even begin our conversation, I want to whet the appetite of our listeners by playing the trailer for this wonderful movie, A Great Awakening.

Rise, O Satan! Awaken! Benjamin Franklin, your brother said he could use your help at his print shop. You have my blessing. Can it do good things, Pa? Great things! From the gardens to the valley. George Whitfield, you will be an extraordinary preacher.

Remember the source of your power. You don't believe the stories from London are true? I am doubting Whitfield's claim that he can be heard and understood by so many.

Without evidence, I won't believe it.

Then let's proclaim freedom to the captives! Whom the sun sets free is free indeed! Have you ever heard a voice like that? At last, we have him. Benjamin Franklin. Reverend Whitfield. Partnering with me would guarantee the maximum benefit to your cause.

Match made in heaven. Or just a deal made in a print shop.

General George Washington.

Today, we stand in an even darker valley.

All of this country must be our chieftain, sir.

This constitution cannot fail. We cannot let the sun set on this nation. We're lighting a powder keg, my friend. If you follow him, you are led by love. Why can't I give road to you? I choose evidence over faith.

Stop trying to change me.

You have promoted the greatest awakening these colonies have ever seen. What? Stop.

You are the lightning bolt, George. I am just the lightning rod.

And who is the saucepan? Welcome to see your gift of salvation. One tiny candle illuminates a thousand. Arise, O sleeper! Awaken!

Hallelujah. What a powerful trailer that is. We have a tradition here, Jonathan. Whenever we have a first-time guest on the program, we like them to give a summary of their salvation testimony that would include any kind of religious atmosphere in which they may have been raised, and the kinds of providential circumstances our sovereign Lord raised up in their lives that drew them to himself and saved them.

I'd love to hear a summary of your story.

Absolutely. I grew up in a Christian home. Both my parents were believers all of my life. And my dad was a pastor for many years. And so I grew up steeped in the Bible. And honestly, the reality of God, he was always real to me.

He was always there to me. I don't really remember a time where I didn't just trust that I had a heavenly father and that I could lean on him. But I think I sort of took it for granted. You know, it was just sort of like the sun in the sky.

It's just always there. And you don't really think about it from day to day. Perhaps until you don't see it anymore, or you think you can't see it anymore. And I think when I was a teenager, is when I really sort of woke up to the reality of the personal nature of God, that he is always there, but there's also a choice to be made to enter into ongoing relationship with him.

And somewhere, it wasn't as dramatic as Whitefield's, but somewhere gradually, Jesus himself, and the manifold layers of his person, became more and more real to me. And I didn't really arrive anywhere.

I'm still on that continuum of going deeper and deeper in discovering more and more about his heart for me and for everyone. So I don't really feel like there was a before and after. I feel like there's just been a continuum, a spectrum of going deeper and deeper into life with the Lord.

Yeah, and I've always sort of been a storyteller, and I've always known that somehow, those would be intertwined. I didn't know how, but I always knew that I wanted to illustrate who God was to me through the stories that I was telling.

And I think that was a big attraction to me as a teenager into the person of Jesus himself, was himself being a storyteller. And that mode of communicating in a way that was dramatic and surprising just really drew me in.

It's like he knew what he was doing.

Hallelujah.

And when in your life did you realize that acting was to be your vocation?

I think I started it when I was 11, and I got the bug. I got bit by the bug, and I just knew that that's what I wanted to do. I knew all my life that I wanted to be creative and I wanted to tell stories somehow.

I thought, when I was younger, I thought maybe that was a writer, primarily books or things like that. But the older I got into theater, the more, and then into filmmaking later on. I was 17 or 18 the first time I got into filmmaking, and I realized that the art of filmmaking sort of incorporates all of the art forms.

There's writing, there's the literature of writing the scripts, but there's performance, there's music, there's the visual composition. It's so much like photography or painting even. So filmmaking to me just kind of felt like every art form that you could touch in the telling of one singular story.

And just the portability, I suppose, of a film. It can go anywhere. It can be seen anywhere. It can reach, there's no ceiling to the audience that a film could have. I think somewhere around 17 or 18, I knew I was going to be a filmmaker and I absolutely did not know how.

But I actually wrote in my journal, the year I auditioned for Sight and Sound, actually, back in 2017, I wrote down a prayer saying, Lord, I don't know how this is going to happen. I've made a couple of films, independent films by now, but I really don't see how this is going to be sustainable.

Lord, I just want to tell your story. So equip me somehow. And two months later, I auditioned for Sight and Sound and came here. So it's just amazing. I reflect on that entry in my journal from time to time when I start to get used to the blessings that he's given me, and I start to take them for granted.

I look back at when I was praying desperately to be where I am now.

And I understand that when you first heard about this role of George Whitfield being available, that you didn't even know who George Whitfield was, or perhaps you had heard the name, but only had a vague idea of who he was.

How did you, first of all, get presented with the opportunity to portray Whitfield?

Yeah, that's a great question. So Joshua Enk, the lead writer and the director of A Great Awakening, our friendship goes back to that year in 2017 when I auditioned for the theater. He was also writing and directing Sight and Sound's premiere production of Jesus, in which I auditioned and then got cast in the role of Jesus.

So that was the beginning of our actor-director relationship. And that was a stage production, correct? Yes, that was a stage production here at Sight and Sound in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. So I got to portray Jesus, and through that relationship, our friendship grew, and we both shared a passion for film.

And we made one other film together prior to that, Sight and Sound's first feature film, I Heard the Bells, which came out in 2022. That was our first foray into filmmaking. And I got to sort of talk a lot of shop on the story, on the script for that with Josh.

And so he invited me first to contribute to the script as a story consultant on this new concept for a film he was talking about, A Great Awakening. And in the course of that, talking about this man, George Whitefield, he was describing who this guy was.

And then all of a sudden, he said, have you ever heard of George Whitefield? And I said, I've heard the name. That's about all I know of him. And so he went on to describe this man that 80 of the colonists had heard with their own ears and this first unifying force in the colonies and sowing the seeds of the anthems of the revolution.

And I was like, oh my gosh, why have I never heard of this guy before? Oh, by the way, he was friends with Benjamin Franklin. At the end of this conversation, I was like, Josh, this sounds fantastic. Like, I don't know how you, we, I don't know how we're going to capture all this.

And somewhere in there, he said, by the way, will you audition for George Whitefield? And I was like, wow. Talk about a tall order. That was that first conversation was when Josh first explained to me.

So it kind of all came at once like drinking out of a firehouse. The concept for the story, who this man was, would you enter into it in these sort of multifaceted disciplines, which was exactly three years ago now.

It was spring of 23 when he first talked to me about this.

Praise God. Before I turn over the baton to my co-host, Kurt, I just thought I'd let you know something that I brought up in the previous program that Kurt Smith and I did reviewing the movie and promoting it.

I was taken aback watching the movie that John Paul Sneed, the actor portraying Benjamin Franklin, looks almost identical to a dear friend of mine who is now in heaven, Nigel Stone. Nigel Stone, a Brit.

He was a British immigrant to the United States who was a member of the same church where I was saved. This was back in the 80s. Nigel introduced me to George Whitefield, my church.

Wow.

My church was a church that embraced and adhered to the theology of George Whitefield, Calvinism. In my initial stages of my Christian journey, I was very skeptical about this theology I was hearing about.

Nigel said to me in his deep British voice, I heard you having difficulty understanding the doctrines of sovereign grace. Read this. He handed me George Whitefield's Letter to John Wesley on Election, which is a reprint from Chapel Library.

That's where I discovered and fell in love with George Whitefield and his theology. But I know that you're chomping at the bit, Pastor Kirk, to ask a question.

That's incredible.

So, Jonathan, I'd seen an interview with you back in April. It was on Good Friday. And it was with a local news station, I guess there in Pennsylvania. And in the interview, I think the question was posed to you as far as how you prepared the role to portray Whitefield.

And if I remember correctly, one of the things you said you did is that you had read Whitefield's journals. Is that right?

Yeah. Yes.

Okay. So, in thinking about that and thinking about our talk today, for you as a Christian, you know, reading those journals, what kind of personal spiritual impact did that have on you? You know, not just in preparing to portray Whitefield in this movie, but, you know, what was your personal takeaway, spiritually speaking, with everything you were reading in Whitefield's journals?

Yeah, what a great question. I think the most immediate takeaway I recall at the time was, I don't remember the exact scenario, but it may have happened more than once, where he was reflecting on just the inability or his perceived lack of ability to deliver on any given day, where he'd feel, you know, sick or hoarse, and he still has to get up into the pulpit and preach, and just sort of surrendering that to God and feeling the Lord meet him where he's at, and him being able to deliver.

And I found myself feeling like Whitefield was a mentor to me in real time, going, okay, that's exactly what I need to step up into the pulpit and literally do the same thing to a crowd of extras. I was just so struck that that became my prayer.

Every day when I'd get up to do another sermon, I wouldn't know how I would sustain eight, nine, ten takes in a row, and still give it everything I have. And I just felt the Lord continuously remind me, like, I'll carry you like I carried him.

And I just remember the Lord just speaking that over me and me holding onto that and going, okay, thanks, you did it. You did it in the first sermon, in the second sermon, and will you do it again? I just found myself continuously, oh, will you do it this time?

And I'd get to the end of every day of shooting and, you know, by God's grace, I never lost my voice and I never went hoarse. And by the end of it, you know, the Lord, I just felt him saying, like, I told you.

And I credit that to the across-time mentorship of George Whitefield and just surrendering his abilities. And for me, that was the most powerful takeaway that I will take into whatever project I do, whether that's writing or directing or acting, it's, yes, there's a responsibility to hone our crafts and our abilities.

That we've been given,.

But at the end of the day, it's not really about those if they're surrendered. And if we're surrendered, the Lord is still going to work regardless of how good we think we're doing.

Right, right. Yeah, well, you know, two things in response to that. One, I can definitely testify personally that the Lord did bless you in the portrayals of you preaching, whether it was in the Kingswood district of Bristol or it was in Philadelphia.

I mean, those scenes in the movie and, you know, in your preaching, you know, Whitefield's sermons, I mean, definitely moved me to tears.

Wow.

Quite literally, you know, because when one, you know, first, because I'm a Christian and obviously I totally, totally understood, you know, what you were preaching.

Yeah.

From that standpoint, of course, the other reason is just as a historian and certainly as a biographer, as a biographer of George Whitefield, I, you know, I thought that you guys portrayed both, you know, both with the coal miners there in Bristol and with that scene, you know, in Philadelphia.

Yeah.

It gave a great, great sense of what it must have been like, you know, for, you know, for them to have heard that kind of voice, which God did give Whitefield a very, very powerful voice.

Right.

But, you know, as you were, you know, relating to what he wrote in his journals, and Whitefield knew this himself, that apart from the power of the Holy Spirit clothing him and taking the gospel to the hearers, it didn't matter what kind of oratorical, natural oratorical powers he had.

Exactly.

His words would have fallen to the ground were it not for the Holy Spirit anointing him in the way that he did in such a phenomenal way. So, you know, so that's great. I mean, that you, you know, that was a big takeaway for you, even in this portrayal, you know, in acting in this movie as Whitefield, that, yeah, like you said, in real time, you know, you were depending on the Lord just as much, you know, for that.

So, you know, I thank the Lord for that. And it, you know, like I just said, it definitely delivered. So I always give God thanks for that.

Yeah, me too.

Now, as an actor, Jonathan, had you ever thundered out your voice like that before portraying Whitefield?

Yes, the closest, which is where I think Josh got the idea to ask me, was when I portrayed Jesus on stage. There were a few instances that were sort of similar in tone. We portrayed the scene where Jesus storms, you know, Jesus cleanses the temple and as the wind is chasing out the money changers.

That was a pretty Whitefield-esque moment in that stage production where Jesus is sort of thundering at everyone. There was other moments as well in that, that I think were pretty comparable to this portrayal, but nothing, again, you know, you're on stage and you do it once and you're done and the show keeps going, but nothing to the extent of Whitefield on set.

So that was my biggest concern going into the film was just sustainability and how we would really do that. And it didn't really seem feasible to be able to deliver the passion, but also over and over again, you know, and that's where I feel like the Lord really met us in that.

Did you ever lose your voice where you had to?

No. Really? No. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

And was there anything about Whitefield that you were totally shocked by that has an indelible impact upon you? Before you even answer, I could say that one of the things that I really appreciated about the movie is that it was honest enough to reveal some of the warts and blemishes of Whitefield, especially during that argument he was having with Benjamin Franklin.

And what a classic example of an unbeliever having an argument with a believer and the unbeliever throwing in the face of the believer things that he intends to embarrass him with. But the fact that Whitefield did use slave labor with an orphanage to construct an orphanage in Georgia,.

I believe.

Yeah.

And perhaps where I'm going with that is in this cancel culture and in the woke environment, we are not supposed to have heroes that had anything seriously wrong with them. And of course, the cancel culture, it's only specific things that our heroes can't have that are more involving things of race and so on.

But isn't this an example of how we can still uphold a hero knowing that this hero is a sinner saved by grace, just like we are, and just because someone has committed some grievous sins, he can still be used powerfully by God?

Absolutely.

I mean, look at pretty much every notable figure in the Bible.

That's right.

And like, there's nobody left if you cross them off because of their flaws. There's no humans left except one, you know, without mistakes. And yeah, that was very important to us to not put Whitefield up on a pedestal because he was constantly taking himself off the pedestal.

And I just thought that was important. We knew that, you know, in this climate, you know, that would be a lot of what a lot of people would first bring up was, so what about this issue? What about his slavery?

What about, you know, all these things? And there's no real clean answers to those things. I think it's just a fascinating contradiction in the man, you know, which we sort of put in the mouth of Franklin saying the irony of proclaiming liberty while utilizing slaves.

And so that's something that we weren't really trying to apologize for and explain away. It was just something we had to present as a fact. But at the same time, because of his, the truth that he's proclaiming is not invalidated because of his flaws.

If he were proclaiming that two plus two equals four, well, that would still be true despite his personal failings. And the same goes with the truth of the gospel. And that's what we were trying to emphasize is that don't base your faith on anyone that isn't Christ, essentially.

There's only one foundation worthy of your faith, and that's what he's done.

And that was such a wonderful comeback that Whitfield had to Franklin in that dialogue. But please, Kurt.

Well, yeah, I was just going to say, I mean, that was one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie was that interchange between Whitfield and Franklin. And, you know, and even in that interchange as well as in, you know, the scenes of the sermons preached, the gospel was so well presented but also so well defended in that moment, you know, where, you know, you would, you know, Whitfield had said to Franklin, you know, something along the lines, and hopefully you can remember this, and she had to portray this, that you don't follow a flawed life.

Something along those lines, you know. In other words, it's not me, it's Christ. And, you know, that is most definitely along the lines of what Whitfield himself would have said. I mean, because that's what he was always communicating anyway.

You know, with Whitfield, the popularity that swarmed around him was so fast. I mean, it just, it happened overnight, as it were. And when you read his private correspondence, even in those earliest years of his ministry, and, you know, in his early to mid-twenties, and he is writing to many people saying that the greatest trial of his life was the popularity, the fame.

He despised it. I mean, he wanted to retire at age 25 because of the pressure of the fame and the popularity, because he did not want, he did not want people following him. He wanted people following Christ, which is why, in my biography, I compare him to John the Baptist.

You know, where John the Baptist said of the Lord Jesus, he must increase, I must decrease. Well, Whitfield said virtually the same thing. And I think in the movie, y 'all did a great job of really portraying that spirit in Whitfield.

So I really commend you for that.

Thank you so much.

And there were scenes where I heard you say in a previous interview, where the words that were coming out of the character of Whitfield in the movie were actually from your own mind and heart, that you included them in the movie.

If you could tell us about that.

Yeah, well, there was the balancing act, was we wanted to incorporate a lot of Whitfield's actual words, but make them, you know, feel organic and not like we copy and pasted from, you know, the pages of history, and it doesn't feel right.

And so there was a good mixture of us as the writers and Whitfield himself. But an example, the first example I can think of is the Philadelphia Sermon. The segment, you know, where he's listing, he's comparing and contrasting the impact of all these pagan philosophers, Seneca, Cicero, all of those guys, have all of them combined at any sort of comparable lasting effect as the words given by the one they call Jesus of Nazareth.

That's all pretty much verbatim Whitfield. And then sort of sprinkled there on at the end, because you're not only trying to convey a sermon, but you're trying to spin up the rhythm of compelling rhetoric as well.

There is sort of a growing, the need for a growing to a crescendo as he's like naturally sort of engaging and building the audience to this climax. And he proclaims, oh, does not your dead heart quicken to life at the thought that you were fashioned for such purpose and have yet a part to play in the unfolding kingdom of God?

That was just a line that I feel like the Lord gave me as I was sitting there with the sermon. And that's how I feel. I just, that's my passion coming out through Whitfield in that moment. And so I feel like the Lord really sort of yoked me with Whitfield in the crafting of some of these sermons in getting to some of those points.

Because that sermon as a whole, we sort of approached it, each sermon with sort of an emotional foundation that we wanted to accomplish. You know, the church, the English church was obviously sort of a righteous anger.

This, you know, fury of the Lord coming out in these representatives who weren't being responsible with the truth they were entrusted with. And obviously the coal mining sequence is sort of this sorrow, this sorrowful pleading to fellow sinners to come into the light.

And Philadelphia to me was sort of, fundamentally it was more joyful. Yeah, he had been doing it for a while at this point. So he had a little bit of his rhythms down a little bit more by the time he gets to Philadelphia.

And I thought that it would be cool to portray the Lord providentially speaking about the reasonableness of faith through Whitfield to a crowd that features Benjamin Franklin. Although Whitfield doesn't know that, that's what he feels compelled to preach on is the logicalness or the reasonableness of faith.

And that is what sort of catches Franklin's attention. Is that, oh, no one's really talked about that before. I don't know about all the rest, but here's a guy who thinks, you know. So anyways, yeah. Each sermon was sort of a blend of each of us.

And I have to admit that although this doesn't happen with any frequency, I did begin to shed tears in the coal mine scene and was really trying to fight them back and didn't want anybody to ask me to turn in my man card.

But I couldn't help but react that way. And I think when you love the Lord and you love the gospel and you realize what the gospel is, the only hope for wretched sinners to have eternal life, if you're not moved by a powerful representing of that, there's something wrong with you.

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Welcome back. We have on the program today, if you just tuned us in, the lead actor portraying the life of 18th century preacher and evangelist, George Whitefield. And his name is Jonathan Blair. And we also have co-hosting the program, the George Whitefield biographer, my friend, Pastor Kurt M. Smith.

And we are talking about Jonathan's role in this film, the importance of the film, and specifically George Whitefield, who is being portrayed by Jonathan, and the powerful message of peace between God and man only through Jesus Christ.

I was just curious if you've gotten any negative feedback yet. I'm thinking because of one particular scene that's hilarious. When you are in an Anglican church as a guest speaker, and one of the older clerics there, and I'm paraphrasing because I didn't write it down, but he says something to the effect of, I'm not happy to see you here, Mr. Whitefield.

And you respond, or George Whitefield responds, and neither is Satan, or something like that, or neither is the devil. Perhaps you could recite it more accurately than I just did.

Yes, the Anglican clergyman says, I'm very disappointed to see you here, Mr. Whitefield, and George Whitefield replies, so is the devil.

Now, I was just wondering when I saw that, I wonder if he's going to get any heat, or if the production company, Sight Sound, is going to get any heat from Anglicans because of that.

Not that I'm aware of, but you're still young.

I can say that hearing back from a wide spectrum of representatives of different theological positions, every single person so far that I know of that has seen this film is blown away, and they are urging with great fervency to everybody they know to see this film.

And Pastor Curt M. Smith, I know that while we still have Jonathan Blair for the first hour, you're definitely going to want to ask more questions since you've immersed so much of your life in Whitefield's writings and so on.

So please, ask a question.

Well, I do want to begin just by echoing what Chris just said, Jonathan, that everyone that I personally know who has seen the movie, it's the same sentiments. I mean, you know, we all love it. I mean, it was very, very impressive.

I mean, just from the standpoint, you know, from the standpoint of just moviemaking, great production, great musical score, you know, great acting, you know, an ingenious script in the way that it was written.

So, you know, all of that, you know, hats off. I mean, that was great. But, you know, but obviously the most, the most impressive thing, you know, for me personally is that I was like, well, finally, here's a Christian-made movie that I can take an unbeliever to go see and know confidently they're going to hear the gospel.

And so I am so thankful, you know, for that, brother. And, you know, and just, and again, very thankful for in your portrayals of Whitfield's preaching, the gospel is just so clear. And the call to come to Christ is there.

There's no doubt, no confusion whatsoever in the plainness of that call. And so I do believe that Whitfield himself would have been pleased with that. But in, so outside of his journals, just going back to your preparation, was there anything else that you read?

I mean, well, obviously you must have read his sermons.

Yes.

Okay.

Yep.

So in reading his sermons, what was it that personally struck you about, you know, the way that he preached? I mean, obviously, you know, you couldn't hear his voice, but just in how his sermons content was, how his sermons were delivered.