Being What You Are - Romans 6 and Regeneration — Paul Washer

Grace, Sin, and the Evidence of Salvation

I want us to turn for a moment to Romans chapter six. I wanted to get to this passage. And since we're on to present, let's just run through this. First of all, we come to Romans chapter five and we have this this wonderful declaration that salvation is a work of God's grace, it is all attributed to the grace of God and that we're saved by faith in Jesus Christ.

And even that faith in Jesus Christ is a result of the grace of God. It is all grace. And so Paul's opponents come to him and say, well, then. Well, then, if it's all grace, let's just live like the devil.

If it's all grace, is that what you're saying, Paul, to all your converts, that it's all of grace, therefore live like the devil. And if you look in verse one, he says, what shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?

That was the argument laid against him. And do you want to know why? For the same reason that argument exists today. You see, all these church people who claim to be Christian, they claim to have faith in Christ.

And yet they live like the devil, they live like worldly, godless, carnal people, their lives and in no practical way are submitted to the word of God. They have no sense of the sovereignty and the lordship of Christ in their life.

They have no concept of their practical life being directed by the word of God. And what is so frightening is what Jesus said in Matthew seven when he said, you know, depart from me. I never knew you, you workers of iniquity.

The word there means you lawless ones. And what he's saying in there is this. Depart from me, those of you who claim to be my disciples. And yet you lived as though I never gave you a law to obey. That describes so many people in evangelical America today.

Jesus saved me. But when you ask them about the law and the teaching of Christ and how it affects their daily life, it doesn't. And that's exactly what Jesus said, depart from me, those of you who claim to be my disciples, but you live as though I never gave you a law to obey.

A command to adhere to a principle to follow. It's like John MacArthur said, do you want to know what your profession of faith in Jesus Christ is worth? Zero, because many will come before me on that day and say, Lord, Lord, and I'll say depart from me, I never knew you.

Not everyone who says, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven. So you mean everybody who says they're a Christian and everybody who says Jesus is Lord is not entering into the kingdom? No. Well, then how do we know when someone's really entering into the kingdom?

How do we know when we're entering into the kingdom? He says, oh, it's easy. The one who does the will of my father. Are you saying, Brother Paul, that salvation is by works? Absolutely not. That is blasphemy.

Well, then what are you saying? I'm saying this salvation is a supernatural work of God. It is by faith and faith alone. But since it is a supernatural work of God in which God literally changed the nature of a man, that man, the expression of true salvation is going to be a new lifestyle of growing obedience and sanctification.

That the evidence that one time long ago you repented is that you're still repenting and the evidence that one time long ago you believed unto salvation is you're still believing. And the one time long ago that you turn from sin is you're still turning from sin and growing in godliness because he who began a good work and you will finish it.

And you say, Brother Paul, you're saying a Christian cannot stumble, a Christian cannot only stumble, they can somewhat fall. But if they are a Christian, God will discipline their lives, according to Hebrews chapter 12, and bring them back on the path.

But if there is no discipline, they are not a child of God. And yet we find countless individuals in our churches today who live carnal, ungodly lifestyles with absolutely no, no measure of Christ's discipline.

Regeneration Rather Than Mere Decision

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? May it never be. Now, I don't know just how strong this language is, but I am told by scholars all throughout the world it is very strong.

Paul is adamant, he is certain he may even be a little bit angry. May it never be. Don't you ever say that. Why? He says, how shall we who died to sin still live in it? Now, what's this talking about?

I believe. That the first part of the book of Romans in chapter six, the greater half of this is talking about a lost doctrine. I think he is speaking, at least referring to backwards and forwards, the doctrine of regeneration.

I truly do. Now, just listen to him. We're going to put on our thinking caps for a moment. I want you to look at what's been done to evangelical Christianity in America. Evangelism is all about decision.

Decision. Make your decision. I made my decision. Hour of decision. Have you made your decision? Got to make your decision for Christ. Salvation has come down to a man in the power of his own will, making a decision for Christ.

It's almost like salvation is a decision to jump out of the line going to hell, to jump into the line going to heaven. And that's it. And anyone who's made that decision, we tell them they've been born again.

But we have no concept of what the term born again or born from above really means. Born again or born from above is the doctrine of regeneration. What does it mean? Well, first of all, the Bible says that we're dead in our sins.

The word there means dead. If it meant something else, they put something else. Doesn't mean sick in our sins, troubled in our sins, plighted by our sins, dead in our sins. Regeneration is made alive that we were spiritually dead to God.

Spiritual Death and the Raising of Lazarus

Now, what does that mean? Let me give you an example. So there's a dead man on the platform right here. He's dead. He's laying here. He's dead, not mostly dead, but dead. OK, and I come to him being the benevolent Samaritan that I am, I come to him and I say, sir, hearken unto my voice.

Not far from here is a well-established hospital. They have those funny electric things that they can put on your chest. And though it will be quite painful, they can shock you back into existence. Now, sir, come with me.

What's wrong? You want to be dead all your life? Come, please. Now, that's ridiculous, isn't it? Well, so is our evangelism. So is our evangelism. Can you imagine me and Brother Randall two thousand years ago? Standing in front of Lazarus tomb.

Lazarus, come forth. OK, you try, Lazarus, come forth. You try, Lazarus, come forth. You know any other language? What's going to happen? We're going to stand there all day until we are hoarse going, Lazarus, come forth.

Lazarus just happens to have a problem. When you're dead, you can't hear anybody. Now, but think about this. Jesus comes up and goes, Lazarus, come forth. There's still the problem. Jesus spoke, whoopee, he spoke to a dead man.

Dead men can't hear. So what you need to understand is when Jesus said, Lazarus, come forth, he also imparted into Lazarus the life to stand up in here. And that's what you don't recognize. When a man gets out to preach the gospel, he is not some little tinker toy type of man who's learned a few slick systems, who can go out and motivate and coerce and manipulate people emotionally to come forward.

If he is a true preacher of God, he is a prophet standing in a valley full of dead bones. And God looks at him and says, can these bones live? And he says, you know, Lord, well, then, son, call upon the wind.

Speak to these bones. That's the problem in America today. You think salvation is just some little human decision of the will. The fact of the matter is, it is a supernatural work of God. Men hate God.

Don't you recognize that? And men cannot come to God. Why? Because they hate him. It's like this. Let me give you an example. It says in the Bible that Joseph's brothers could not speak a kind or gentle word to him.

Why is that? Did they have lips? Yes. Did they have tongues? Were any of them mute? Not that I understand. Why is it that his brothers could not speak a good word to him? It says because they hated him.

So what it's saying is this, have you ever seen a person who you say you need to forgive this other person? I can't. Why not? I just I just I just can't. They've done me so much wrong. I cannot forgive them.

What are they saying? That the animosity, the bitterness, the hatred in my heart keeps me from forgiving them. That's why when we say men can't come to God, we're saying they can't come to God because they won't come to God and they won't come to God because God is holy.

They're wicked and they hate what they see. And Jesus said the same thing. You will not come to the light because your deeds are evil. Men are evil. So the more they see of God and the more they see of God's law, the more they will hate God and kick against his law.

That is why when a preacher like me gets up to preach, he knows it's absolutely hopeless. No matter what I say, no matter what I do, I cannot coerce. I cannot manipulate why the spirit of almighty God must come down in that place and resurrect people.

It is a spiritual work of God, not a thing for tiny boys. If I see one more church sign that uses that Geico thing, salvation is so easy, a caveman can do it. I don't know what I'm going to become salvation so easy, a caveman can do it.

No, so that salvation so impossible that the blessed trice, holy son of God had to spill his blood to make it happen, and then the spirit of almighty God must come and literally resurrect a dead man and give him spiritual sites that he can see, as I was sharing later earlier.

The Blindness of the Natural Person

And this is important for you to understand Romans 12. This is important. I'm going to get back to it. But you have to understand this. Most people, they preach like this. It's like Jesus is standing behind a curtain and there's the whole congregation of lost people.

And Jesus is behind the curtain. And someone says, all we have to do is show them Jesus. They see Jesus. They're going to come to him. Just pull that curtain back, preach to them about Jesus and they'll come.

That's not true. Why? Well, the audience is blind. So you pull the curtain back, nothing. Why? They're blind. And then someone says, you're right, Brother Paul, we got to preach Jesus. We pull that curtain back so that they can see him.

And the spirit of God's got to come and give them sight. Then they'll come to him. No, they won't. No, they'll kill him. Why? Because when they open up their eyes and for the first time in their life, see Jesus as the impeccably holy and righteous son of God and they see him with that wicked God hating heart of theirs, the more they see of him, the more they'll hate him.

The more they see of his will, the more they'll kick against it. See, here's one of the problems. Preachers aren't telling you today what is a long drawn out doctrine throughout all of Orthodox Christianity.

Men are fallen, radically depraved. They are born in their sin and iniquity. They are born. Conceived in sin, they are haters of God, they are truly evil, and the only reason you don't make Hitler look like a choir boy is because the grace of God has restrained you.

So if we were to pull back the curtain and the spirit were to allow you to see, then what you saw, you would hate because your heart is evil. So what has to happen for a man to get saved? I'll tell you what has to happen.

A preacher preaches the gospel of Jesus Christ and calls men to repent and believe the gospel and the spirit of God comes. And what does he do? He does exactly what Ezekiel says. He takes out a heart of stone.

What is that heart of stone? I don't care how big you get the biggest man in Texas and make a statue of him. I'll punch him. I'll pinch him, I'll prod him, I'll kick him, I'll let a pigeon land on his head and he's not going to do anything.

Why? Because a statue of stone, no matter how big it is, is an inanimate object. It cannot respond to stimuli. That's the heart that a man has. He cannot respond to divine stimuli because it's dead. But he says, I will take out your heart of stone and I will give you a heart of flesh.

And what is flesh? Flesh, in this sense, is not talking about something bad. A heart of flesh is something that can respond to stimuli. I'm going to give you a heart that can see me, hear me. I'm going to recreate your heart in the image of God and true righteousness and true holiness.

And I'm going to throw open your eyes. And the moment I open your eyes and you see my son, my beautiful, precious, holy son, you are going to be drawn to him because that heart of yours has been changed.

And that is why he is saying here, shall we sin so that grace may increase? And he says, no, no way. Why? Because although we were born with a sinful, Adamic nature that drank down sin like it was water, even though we loved evil deeds and hated the light in saving us, God made us new creatures.

New Creation and the Transformation of Desire

Salvation is not just a thing of the human will. It is a supernatural work of God, just like recreation. The spirit of God hovered in the creating of the universe, the spirit of God recreates a person who is genuinely born again, makes them new, makes them different.

How is it that you can be witnessing to a drunk, you can be witnessing to a guy who has done everything possible, who has no morality, no nothing. And all of a sudden, when you're witnessing to him, he sees Christ, he's broken over his sin, he comes running to Christ and then he's absolutely just a different man.

Did he just make a decision? The spirit of God made him anew. Now, I'll give you the best illustration. I've been living in Alabama for a year, so I can use this illustration. Let's imagine that I have a plate of that barbecue I ate today.

That was wonderful stuff. Wonderful plate of the finest food. Bucket of garbage. And we have we let a pig loose in the auditorium. I lived on a farm for many years. I know exactly where that pig's going.

He's not going to eat barbecue. He's going to stick his head in this bucket of vomitous filth. He's going to plunge his head in there as deep as it can go, he's going to eat with all delight and he is going to shake his little tail and he's not going to worry about any of you seeing him.

But if in one second. I have the power to change that pig into a man. Change his very nature. He is now a new creature. He isn't just a pig who decided to turn over a new leaf. He isn't a pig who's going to finishing school.

He isn't a pig who's being discipled. He is a pig that supernaturally has been changed into something other than a pig. He's been changed into a man. And the moment he's changed into a man, there are some things that men simply by nature cannot eat.

They can't do it. And so he throws his head out of that bucket. The very thing he was gobbling down with delight, he's now throwing it up with disgust. He runs out into the field, he's eating grass, he's doing whatever he can do to get this taste out of his mouth.

And then finally, when he settles down, he turns around and looks at you and he is so ashamed he can hardly bear it. Right. I just described your conversion. You say, well, I never you've never been converted.

That's your conversion. You see, it wasn't just a thing of will, it was a supernatural recreating work of almighty God for his own glory to show how powerful he is. And that is why Paul says, no, the believer will never continue in sin that grace may abound.

Why? Because he is a new creature and that's what no one seems to understand anymore. A new creature. Now, let's go on, or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into his death?

Baptism as the Sign of Regeneration

Now, it's debated back and forth, English scholars, American scholar, this scholar, that scholar, what does baptism refer to? I'm kind of old school, I simply believe it refers to baptism, the water baptism.

That's my opinion, but it doesn't take the it doesn't take the meaning of the text away which way you go. I do not believe that they're saved when they're baptized. I believe that what it's simply being demonstrated here is this, is that baptism is an external sign of an inward reality.

Now, what happens? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized under Christ Jesus have been baptized into his death? In baptism, he's taken under the water. He is being buried with Christ. He is taken under the water, he has died.

It's an outward symbol of something that's already happened. The moment they were saved, they were regenerated, they were born again by the power of God, their old man died and a new man came to take his place.

Or do you not know that all of us who've been baptized under Christ have been baptized into his death the same way that Christ died? We died and we were buried. We really were. When Christ regenerated our hearts, when the spirit regenerated our hearts, something really happened when the Bible uses terminology like new creation, new creature.

It's not poetry. It's not just saying, oh, that's nice. And we could say it this way in a song. No, it's what really happened. Ontologically, your very being changed. You became something new. That's why, you know, for years in my misery, in my drunkenness, in my self-centeredness and everything that I was and then sit there after doing terrible, foolish and hurtful things to people, sit on the side of my bed and go, I'm never doing that again.

How could I have done that? Why would I have done that? I've got to stop doing this and make vow after vow. And yet my buddies call that evening and yet off we go again. Until one day someone shared the gospel with me and what happened.

It wasn't I need to try to do what's right, I need to stop this, I need to turn over a new leaf, it was I did that before. How could I have done that? Why would I do something like that? What what's happened to me?

Well. Come on, Paul, it's time to go, let's party. What? No, let me share with you something, you mark this down, this happens all the time, especially in the South, preacher goes. Goes visit someone hadn't been in church for five years, goes visits him, person sees the pastor coming, he's very polite, he's trained to be polite after all, he's from the South, opens that door.

Come on in, Pastor, you want some sweet tea? Pastor starts talking to him a while after he talks to him for a while, he hangs his head down. You're right, Pastor, you're right. I just need to put this filthy stuff away.

Just need to. Yeah, I just need to stop going all these places and I lay aside this stuff, chasing this women and these women. And you're right. I just need to get right. I just need to get in church.

I just need to do the right thing. That man is as lost as he can be because you know what he's saying? He's saying, you're right, Pastor, I need to stop doing all the wicked things I love and start doing all the righteous things I hate in order to go to heaven.

That's exactly what he's saying. You don't see a new creature there. You see someone you see, and that's one of the problems of the Christian life, most Christians think the Christian life is struggling to be something you're not.

It's not. It's being what you are now, a new creature. Yes. And so he says, therefore, we have been buried with him through baptism unto his death so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the father, so we too might walk in a newness of life.

We've not only has the old man been done away with, not only is the old man died, but a new man has come to take his place. That heart of stone is removed and a new heart of flesh that will respond to God has been put in its place.

Why? So that we walk in a newness of life. And he goes on knowing this. Let's go to verse six, I can't go through knowing this, that our old self was crucified with him. That's not a promise. That's a reality.

He's not saying if you believe it and receive it, it'll be true. That's Keswick teaching, which is so influenced so many people. But what he's saying is this, it's a reality, if you truly are a believer, the old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be done away with so that we would no longer be slaves to sin.

It doesn't mean that believers will be perfect. As a matter of fact, anyone who comes to you saying they're a believer and they're perfect, they're not a believer, according to First John, chapter one, because one of the greatest evidence is that someone truly is a believer, is that they are sensitive to the sin in their life and it leads them to repentance and confession.

But what if there is a great difference between a believer struggling and fighting against sin and growing in sanctification and a person who calls himself a believer, but lives continuously in a state of slavery with no power to overcome it?

The Believer's New Identity

It's not true, for he who has died is freed from sin. Now, I want us to to go down for just a moment. If you are a true, if you are a believer. You are sitting there and this is so hard to communicate because everyone is just so trained to think I'm speaking, I don't know, mystically or something that I'm not talking about realities or truths, but this is a reality.

If you truly are Christian. Your very nature has been changed, you say, well, Brother Paul, then why do I struggle with sin? It's not because there are two natures, black dog, white dog fighting inside of you.

You struggle with sin because that new nature of yours is still housed in a body of unredeemed flesh with ingrained habits of sin. But think about this for a moment, that fallen flesh, that body with those ingrained habits of sin, realize this, that is not your reality.

That's not who you are. It is wrong, I believe, for a Christian to stand up and say, I'm just a filthy, wretched sinner with a heart so deceitfully wicked that who can know it? And I'll tell you why. I had a guy say that one time over and over in his sermon.

And after his sermon, I walked up to him and I said, let me ask you a question. Do I understand you right? You are a rotten, filthy, wicked sinner and your heart is so deceitfully wicked who can know it?

He said, yes. I said, just exactly what did God do to your heart when he regenerated it? I do not want to play down the struggle of sin in the believer's life or the power of the flesh, but I want you to know something.

If you are a believer, the reality is this, you are a new creature. Man, you need to not think, OK, I need to try and struggle to live like something I'm not. Don't do that. You need to renew your mind and consider these things true and live like you are.

You aren't these lies anymore. You're something else. And so he goes on and he says this. Verse 11, even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. And why is that? Because you really are dead to sin and alive to Christ Jesus, that's the whole purpose of the first six verses, you think I'm getting excited.

You're right. There's this teaching out there that if you just consider yourself dead to sin and alive to Christ hard enough, you will actually be dead to sin and alive to Christ. It's called it's a Keswick teaching.

It's resting in Christ. It's let go and let God none of it's true. It's a reality, he says, in the first part of the text, you are dead to sin, look what he says, how shall we who died to sin still live in it?

And then he talks about being baptized unto his death and raised to newness of life. And that's why he can come back in verse 11 and says, even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus, because you really are.

You are living now in a new reality, in a new realm. That's why Augustine, who was a very immoral man, especially with the ladies after his salvation, he's walking down the street and this lady of very poor reputation leans out in the balcony and says, Augustine, Augustine, it is I.

And he goes, yes, but it is not I. Even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore, do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lust. Don't do it now, let me share with you something.

Fighting Sin Through the Renewed Mind

Here's this believer. Well, I'm just a wretched, old, wicked sinner. My heart's deceitful. I love sin. I hear believers talking about that. You love sin. Well, yeah, we just love. All right, so look at the power in this.

First of all, what does that say for the doctrine of regeneration? It's not a big, very big work. But second of all, look at this. Here comes sin right for him. And he goes, well, I just might as well.

How can I resist it? Be who I am. I'm still just a wretched old this and that. And well, you know, I still fight against this and no power to stand against it. But someone who understands, I believe the doctrine of regeneration and see sin marching down the aisle towards him, sees temptation marching down, stops and says no.

And I'll tell you why. You're coming to me with deception, you're trying to make me believe that if I bite into this, I will experience pleasure, I will experience joy, but I will not experience any more pleasure or any more joy than a man sticking his head in a bucket of vomit to slop like a pig.

I will not believe that I am not that any longer. That's not who I am. I won't enjoy it. It won't bring me pleasure. Most people think the Christian life is this denying yourself all these worldly pleasures so that you can get to heaven.

But if you're a new creature, worldly pleasures are no longer a pleasure. You say, brother, Paul, can Christians be to say yes, but it is a deception when a Christian stops renewing their mind in the word of God, when they stop hanging around other godly people and having iron sharpening iron and they stop thinking godly thoughts and they begin influenced by the world.

They can go over there and stick their head right in a bucket of sin and bite down. And the moment they do, they know they're wrong. They know it's sickening. Now they may continue to chomp for a while in their dullness, in their hardness, hard in their confusion.

But sooner or later, they're going to vomit it up. Why? They are new creatures. They're new creatures. It's just like this. Let me set it before you. A man is lost and he he's going to work, he's late, it's raining outside, he's got books under his arm, they're all dropping out, he hasn't had breakfast, he's trying to get the doorknob open and he's trying to rush out.

And the moment he gets the door partway open, his wife goes, honey, could you take the trash out? He spins around, he goes, can't you see I'm late for work, I got these, I can't get the door open, I got to get to work, I got stuff to do.

How come every time I'm walking out of here, you tell me to take the trash out and he jumps in his car, fully justified, drives to work and he's just as happy as he can be, totally justified in his sin.

He gets converted, truly converted, regenerated, born again, same scenario, he's got books under his arm, he's late for work, he didn't have breakfast, he's kicking the cat, all these things, he's just he's messed up.

And he's walking out, he reaches out for the doorknob and his wife goes, honey, could you take the trash out? He doesn't premeditate, he doesn't think he doesn't nothing. He does this. What's wrong with you?

Can't you tell I'm late for work and it's raining and then it's pouring outside and my boss is going to get me and how come every time I'm going out the door late, you ask me to take the trash out and you say, well, behold, the power of God.

What are you talking about, brother Paul? I'll tell you what I'm talking about. And the moment he does it, it's like a knife just went through his heart and maybe he walks out the door. And it's it's like someone it's like he engulfed down a bucket of slop and maybe in his stubbornness, he turns the car on, maybe he makes it to his office, maybe even makes it partway through the day, husbands.

But finally. He can't stand it anymore, the spirit is convicting him so heavily, God is coming to him in discipline, but since he is a child of God, God no longer comes to him as a judge. He comes to him as a father, but it is so heavy upon him that he has to call his wife, honey, forgive me, I was so wrong.

Now, why did that happen? Why it happened? Because, yes, the reality of him being still in this body of fallen flesh that has ingrained habits of sin, he's lived in a world of sin, he's been trained in sin for years, all his reactions have been trained and he spins around and he says that.

But the moment he does the reality that he's no longer that same old man, he is a different man because he can't stomach it anymore. He's changed. He's no longer his own. He has been recreated in the image of God and true righteousness and true holiness, and he's brought to confession.

Why? Because the reality of who he is, he's a different person. Now, he says, even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. And what must he do? We're going to talk about this tomorrow because we didn't get to it.

Living as a New Creature

How can he do this? The renewing of the mind. You were born again behind enemy lines. Your flesh screams at you that you're nothing different. The world screams at you that you're nothing different. You're just some goose goose following a ghost from Nazareth.

Someone who just a religious fanatic, they have no idea you have been born again by the very will and power of God. You're constantly bombarded, being convinced that you're not who you are and preaching is so low with regard to conversion.

And so many people are called Christians who live totally carnal lives that you're convinced that there's not that much power in the Christian life. And it's OK to just live in sin because that's what everyone does.

No, you need to hear from the word of God over and over again. Your old man has died. It has been crucified. You have been risen with Christ. You are a new creature and been given the Holy Spirit. It's like that silly little story of the little eaglet that falls out of the nest and lands right in the middle of the chicken coop.

And all he ever sees all his life is chickens. Chickens are about the foolish, most ugly, stupid things I've ever seen. I mean, they don't have arms or anything. They just walk around. I mean, that's an elegant chicken.

Have you ever heard anyone say that? So what does he do? He walks like a chicken. He acts like a chicken. He eats like a chicken. One day an eagle flies over. And someone goes and that eagle looks up and goes, oh, my, that's something.

Oh, my, what is that? Never seen anybody live like that. Never seen anybody walk like that, fly like that. How he holds his head. Eagles fly and looks down, says, what on earth is that flies down? Hey, what are you doing?

What do you mean? What am I doing? What are you doing here? Why are you walking like that? What what are you doing? What do you mean? What am I doing? This is what I am. No, it's not. It's not what you are.

Stop it. Do you know one of the things that I have greatly learned through some godly men, especially through Jay Adams, is the need to repent of believing a lie. You're not a victim when you believe a lie.

You're a transgressor when you believe a lie. That's exactly what Adam and Eve did. They believed a lie. You believe this lie, what? That conversion isn't that powerful. That godliness isn't possible.

That walking with God is not really a reality. It's just some pipe dream. And God never gave you the power to do it. And that eagle says, come on. The guy goes, I can't do this. Yes, you can. Finally has to literally grab the thing, fly up in the air and let him go.