Timo's Mission: Bringing Hope to Uruguay's Atheists

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Welcome to the wrap report with your host Andrew Rappaport where we provide biblical interpretation and application
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I'm your host Andrew Rappaport the executive director striving fraternity and the Christian podcast community of which this podcast is a proud member
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We're gonna have a Well, we're gonna have a guest on someone that I got to meet in person
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He is a missionary on his way to Uruguay And I'm hoping that several things that you're gonna gain out of this episode one
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I hope that you're gonna gain a greater appreciation for those who serve Christ around the world maybe
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Just maybe God is calling you to do that and Maybe this episode will be son
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God uses to put that on your heart to pick up and go somewhere that you want to go now It doesn't mean that's the only place we could serve you can serve in your own local community but there are some who
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God calls to pick up and go around the world and Serve elsewhere.
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And then the other thing I'm hoping that you God might put on your heart is to say
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Hey, I really have a heart for what Timo is doing and I want to help support him. And so with that let me welcome in Timothy Hawk and Folks might just heard that I called you a name.
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They haven't heard in America So first off introduce yourself and to explain to people why I called you Timo Hey, it's great to be here, thank you for having me.
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Yeah, my name is Timothy Hawk The reason why I go by Timo is because I grew up as a missionary kid in Uruguay South America And my name is
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Spanish is Timo Teo and just shorten that in Spanish. They don't say
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Tim they say Timo and so for Basically my whole life. I've just gone by Timo and you and I got to meet because you are a missionary candidate at my home church,
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Oxford Valley Chapel and We're our church is looking to raise the support to help you raise your full support
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To be able to get to Uruguay So that's how you and I got to meet and after we're talking
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I was like I need to have you on and let's talk more So for folks to first know talk about your your background a bit you you you grew up in Uruguay as a missionary
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Child as you mentioned What is it? What's it like in Uruguay first explain that the country?
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Yeah. Yeah, so just a little bit of my background. I was Born in Uruguay.
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My parents have been there for about 35 years church planting and this is in the capital city of Montevideo there and that's where I grew up I spent all my whole life there until I was about 18.
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And that's when I came to the States to to study a little bit more and A little bit about my a little bit on my on my testimonies when
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I was about Eight or nine years old I remember hearing
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About what God had done for me during one of our family devotions and my whole life ever since I was born my parents had always
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Taught me about God and told me about what Jesus had done for me and they did such a good job that I really don't remember a point in my life where I Don't remember understanding
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What the gospel was it was always very clear to me and so when I was about seven or eight That's when I realized what doesn't matter how much
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I know about the gospel That's not what saves me and I realized that I was separated from God because of my sin and That the only way to restore that relationship with God is what
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Jesus had done for me on the cross and so That night
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I I told my dad that I wanted to place my faith and trust in Jesus Christ and that's really been the best decision
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I've ever made in my entire life was putting my faith and trust in Jesus and Becoming God's child and ever since I was small ever since I was that young God really gave me burden to go back to Uruguay to to serve him there
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And I remember I'm a pretty logical thinker. And so I remember thinking about everything that God had done for me and About you know how he had sent
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Jesus to die on the cross and how Jesus gave his life for me and my only logical conclusion to that was well if Jesus was willing to give his life for me then
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The very least I can do is to give my life back to Christ for him to use
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However, he wants This is not my life anymore. This is this is God's and ever since I was that young God gave me a burden to go back to Uruguay and I see him
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He has given me this this privilege of being able to to grow up there to be able to see the needs firsthand and He has
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You know, I've been able to grow up with the knowledge of the culture of the language and It's been something that that he's never really let up on and he keeps on opening up the doors on the way and I want to use this
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This knowledge that I have for his honor and glory to be able to spread the gospel in Uruguay So the next thing that you addressed was
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Was what is Uruguay like so your way? If you don't know where Uruguay is I always tell people if you can find the country in Brazil, which is the largest country in South America Uruguay is located right below that it's right on the coast.
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It is only bordered by Brazil and Argentina on the other side That's about the size of Ohio.
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It has a population of three million people and the capital city Is Montevideo, which is located on the very most southern tip?
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of the country and The capital city has about half of the population
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So about a million and a half people live in the capital city and that's where me and my wife will be returning to there and your ways is
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Just a lot of rolling grasslands, it's one of its Things that it's most well known for just beef and that's you know on the early
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Days when your way was was fighting for an independence. It was being fought over because it was a very pristine grasslands great for raising cattle and That's what it one of the largest exports still today is it's exported beef
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Raising cattle and sheep on there it also exports rice and Timber and in the capital city one of the one of the biggest revenues would also be tourism
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Because your way also has the largest Natural port in all of South America and so that attracts a lot of cruise ships that come in there and Uruguay unfortunately also has the highest rate of atheists and agnostics in all of South America, it is a very
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Needy country a country that really needs the gospel It has the highest rates of atheists and agnostics about between like 30 40 percent of the population would claim to be atheist or agnostic
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Around 40 to 50 percent would claim to be Roman Catholic Is also the mostly the most secularized society in all of South America?
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It also has the highest suicides rates in all of South America It is a country that that really needs the gospel and You know, those are
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Those are some of the reasons why What God is really calling us to go back is because we see that the great need
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That is there and also because he just keeps he keeps on leading us. He doesn't He hasn't given us peace about anything else and so we're we're excited and we're looking forward to getting back in And working for the
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Lord there, you know, I find it so interesting that the countries that Have a higher amount of secularism they professed atheism are the same ones that You know, you end up realizing oh they they also have the highest number the highest amount of You know suicide
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Now they would they would have gone. Oh, no, we're we're more enlightened. We're more you say that and yet it's like That's not quite fitting with what we see
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Right. Yeah, it's just a very interesting thing. So now Obviously as a meat -eater,
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I think I would love to go there it sounds like yeah lots of beef Hopefully really inexpensive too, but yeah
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It's so what when you get there, what do you plan on doing your your parents live there?
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So you've grown up there you were somewhat familiar and some might say you're more familiar with that culture than this culture but you know
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It's it is It was a culture shift to get here to America. Now, you're gonna have to go to another one getting back
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What are you looking to do when you get there? And then a follow -on question I'm curious of is what kind of training are you doing while you're here in preparation?
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Yeah, so when we get there We're gonna be involved in in quite a few different ministries one of the first ones is
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We're gonna be involved in church planting in the capital city of Montevideo. It's gonna be near my parents
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We're not gonna be working directly with my parents, but we'll be nearby in the capital city of Montevideo We're gonna be involved in a church plant in an area
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Montevideo. That's that's new. It's growing and There really isn't a
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Large Christian Church in that area at all.
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And so we're gonna be working in starting a new church there we're also going to be working with a Bible College that Recently started back in 2014, which is also in the capital city there and this
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Bible College It has a goal of being able to train and equip National believers with biblical training
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Which is something that is highly lacking in South America, you know here in the US you have
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There's multiple Bible colleges that you can attend get classes online and it's something that is very lacking in South America not as available and so This was a combination of multiple mission boards multiple national pastors and churches
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Coming together seeing this need of this biblical training and starting this
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Bible College to be able to Equip these nationally was to take over these ministries that have been started and that's really been one of our burdens as well because we really believe that the nationals in your way are able to Spread the gospel much better than any one of us can we really want to be able to invest in them and train them?
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to be able to do that and So we're going to be involved in them in many different ways.
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We're going to be teaching We're going to be in different, you know administration technical roles student care they've asked us to to be in charge of that and Fundraising as well recruitment many different areas and One of the other ministries that we really want to Be involved in in both in this in the church planting in the
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Bible College is biblical counseling biblical counseling is something that God has also given us a really strong desire for my wife has a
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Master's degree in biblical counseling. I'm working on getting my master's degree as well in biblical counseling and We want to incorporate that in All these different aspects of ministries.
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We're going to be involved in Because this biblical counseling is also something that is highly lacking in South America as well and You know, we're praying that that God will open doors whether it will be in the church in the community
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Or in this college to use this aspect biblical counseling
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Let's see, what was that was the second question and so follow -up would be the training which obviously
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Some of it you're you got a background in counseling, which is part of the train, but there's some other training you've also had
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Just to prepare for this Yeah, you have to you have to learn the language, right?
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Wait, yeah Yes, August of last year. I mean my wife down went down to Southern, Texas To a language school called
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Rio Grande Bible Institute in Edinburgh, Texas, and we spent about nine to ten months there
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So that my wife could learn the language and it was a very intensive Spanish language program.
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They they put about seven years of Spanish training into two semesters and We averaged about Where we calculated that we were doing about 30 hours of Spanish every week classes were in Spanish one -on -one tutoring
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Spanish Church, it was in a Spanish Bible College. This is this language school is in a
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Spanish Bible College So you're surrounded by friends activities events all in Spanish It was a great
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Great Spanish program. My wife was able to pick it up very quickly. And so we've been preparing them that way
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I've you know, I've also been starting my Master's degree in biblical counseling that's you know part of the training that we're preparing or when we get back and then
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The past two weeks me and my wife were down in in Georgia with our mission board and we were receiving training on church planting and It was you know, excellent excellent training training that you wouldn't get anywhere else and just on how to plant churches cross -culturally with teammates
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And how to you know plan The playing your church plans today, you know a national takes it over when you're done
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Great great stuff. So yeah, there's been a lot of training a lot of preparation for for when we get back down there
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Yeah now a funny story for folks to To know maybe you're you're from Uruguay.
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You're used to the culture your wife as he said is new she had to learn Spanish and So just to see the culture shock for her, right you
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She grew up with her family all spread out all over the world, right? So she's not close to anyone.
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Is that that right? my wife My wife my wife's family is all in the hall in the same barrier, so it's definitely definitely not used to this
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Yeah to get accustomed to it and But they have only been loving and supporting through this whole time with With them grasping, you know this
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Of us moving away overseas it won't be difficult but They have been very encouraging loving through at all.
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This is where you pray as a parent you pray I just want my children to serve the
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Lord, you know, Lord wherever you want to take them and then She brings you home
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And it's well I didn't quite mean there Lord I Mean it's it's a big adjustment, you know, she's someone who's close with her family
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They're all right there to to pick up and do a move like this to learn a new language to learn a new culture
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The culture is somewhat familiar to you But for her this is this is gonna be a big change
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You know you you also happen to have a new baby on the way. So That's gonna be another change for her.
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How is how's this impacting her? Honestly, I have been
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Just so incredibly thankful and blessed. She You know, sometimes this this is all normal for me.
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I've been you know, traveling my me like, you know Adjusting to cultures and even coming back to the
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United States and then going back to your way, you know readjusting and this is all normal for me, but sometimes
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I don't realize I have to be really conscientious of this is all new for her and she has just been such she is so sweet and she has she doesn't complain at all and She has been just so encouraging and wanting to be a part of this ministry
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You know making it her own to not just going because of me, but making it her own and doing this as a team and It has just amazed me every every step that we have taken because I know it's not easy
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I know it's incredibly difficult, but it's a lot of work Even during this deputation process.
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It's hard. There's a lot of sacrifices that she has to make, you know, she she can she doesn't have the nursery to prepare we're gonna be
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Temporarily living somewhere before we move to Uruguay And You know, there's a lot of sacrifices she makes but she has just made them so she had been just so Christlike through this whole process and it never she never ceases to amaze me and She I couldn't be doing this without her.
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Honestly. Yeah, she seems like a very sweet woman. So As you go there your plan to go you're gonna do some counseling.
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I think that for a lot of folks when
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They think of missions. I want to highlight something you brought up because it's something that when you mentioned it it instantly resonated with me and that was that a lot of people think of missions as Someone who's gonna pick up go somewhere around the world and basically be like a church planter
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They're they're just gonna be a pastor of but not here and they're gonna get paid by Americans to pastor a church in some other country and There are some that do that.
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There's some that are church planters where they move around and and plant churches But you're trying to go there to train up locals
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That is something that resonates with me because I think that I've always felt and you had mentioned this is
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Pouring into the locals they are gonna have the better impact or the greater impact on their culture that they know now
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It's a culture, you know, because you grew up in it. So in that sense It's not
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New to you or different for you Yeah, but for others, you know
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Why is that so important? Why is it important to train up? Nationals rather than you just going out and doing the evangelism and the church planting and the pastoring
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Yeah, and I mean this is something that I've seen personally growing up is so many times
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A missionary will come into a country and They will they'll start a church and Don't really focus on evangelism and They'll be able to start a church and then like you said, they're they're just there to pastor and Not really church plant but they're just there to pastor and then once they they retire and leave that church ends up falling apart
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Closing down because there was no investment into the nationals to take over Those ministries and And yeah
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Again, like you said the nationals are the ones that are going to be able to to know the culture even better to me
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They're gonna have so many more connections in the country. They're gonna be able to Relate so much better.
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They're gonna be able to understand the people understand the language so much better than anyone any missionary going into the country and It's also so important Part of church planting is that it needs to be seen as temporary.
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You're not there to pastor but You are there to to start
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In outreach like a church a spiritual group of believers and establishing someone there a
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National really investing into leadership training Teaching them how to evangelize and then and then moving on And so that's why it's so important that the leadership training aspect of ministries to Is to not be so focused on The church plants on those ministries that that you forget to really invest in the leaders and the national people
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Because they are ultimately the ones that are going to carry these ministries on they're gonna be able to make these ministries
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Even more fruitful They are going to be able to reach out to so many more people.
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They are going to be able to be the ones that understand Communicate so much better.
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And so that's why it is so important to be just really really focused on leadership training pouring into National believers not just trying to you know start a church
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You get a couple believers but really focus on that Leadership training on the nationals as well
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Folks can even the folks who are listening here could partner with you. This is something where it's not just oh you're going
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They're listening. They're going. Hey, that's really neat what he's doing that. He's able to help locals in the area
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He's gonna help them to to counsel them to train others to do counseling to train up new and future leaders for this country
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Where as you said, it's needed with so many people being you know, trying to go secular
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But this is something where we can come alongside you. I've already mentioned our church is considering you as a candidate for our missions, but You if I'm not mistaken you don't only rely on churches do you
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Know how we take we take small groups we take individuals we take churches basically anybody that wants to Come alongside of us and partner us financially.
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Yeah anybody So how might if people want to to help you partner with you? What would the partnership look like and how could they do that?
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Yeah, so the easiest way that you could partner with us would to be go to our our mission agencies website
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Our mission agency is biblical ministries worldwide. Their website is biblical ministries org
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That's biblical ministries org and you can look us up by our name in the search
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Yeah, my name is Timothy Hawk. My last name is h o Ck a lot of times it's confused a
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Lot of people want to spell H a W But it is actually H OC case if you want to look us up there.
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You can look up Timothy Hawk H Oh CK and there's different options that you can Give to support us to come alongside of us partner with us in what we're doing
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If you want to be in communication with us We would we also send out monthly newsletters
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You can reach out to me To my email. It's gonna be Timothy dot
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Hawk and biblical ministries dot org Simple again Timothy Hawk h o
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CK at biblical ministries org if you have any other questions if you want to reach out get in communication
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With all of our supporters and we also have a Facebook group is called Timo and Alexis prayer group if you're on Facebook and you'd love to Keep up with us there.
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We also we post some different prayer requests and sometimes a little bit more often than they're in our prayer updates, but Yeah, we would love to partner with you and you can reach out at any time.
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We'd love to hear from you Now with this you mentioned that you're part of a missions board which leads into my next question is for folks who want to donate
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One thing that often comes up if they if they want to help out is well What kind of accountability is this person have is he just going on his own and I'm gonna have no idea where how the money's being spent or You know what?
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He's doing. Is there accountability you have you've both a sending board and ascending church
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So How is what's the relationship you have with? biblical missions with the mission board and then
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What is the relationship you have with your sending church? And how do you know that sending church? Yeah, so we've partnered with this with this mission board biblical ministries worldwide and this mission board one of its jobs is to keep us accountable because That is very important with with what we're doing and that is something that we consider
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To be a high priority we want people to be able to you know to trust us to be able to know what we're doing to be able to Reach out at any time and our mission agency really helps us
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That's that's one of their jobs and And so that's why all the finances Go through them.
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It doesn't come to us personally. It goes through them They hold us responsible and and Then with our sending church,
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I'm sending churches fellowship Bible Church in Shenandoah Junction, West, Virginia this is a church that I did an internship right out of Bible College and My wife grew up there
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Our sending church also holds us highly accountable people that are constantly communicating with us
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We have Different meetings we actually have one coming up this month.
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We're gonna be again meeting with the missions committee giving them an update on what we're doing so that they can hold us accountable and even with all of the the churches and Individuals that come along and support us
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I believe that That there's a biblical aspect to that accountability that they have to us that those churches are are responsible for holding us accountable for what we're doing how we're using these finances and and How we are staying faithful while in Uruguay And we're also while we're in Uruguay with this
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Bible College. We're also going to be surrounded by multiple local churches pastors different Other missionaries as well
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That are going to be holding us accountable as well keeping us Faithful and And so this is something, you know, we're not we're not just going down there alone, but this is something that is going to be
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It's a it's a team effort From all of our churches all the people supporting us as well as the team that we're gonna be working with in Uruguay And if when you get to Uruguay, you're not just gonna be on your own right away, right?
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You're gonna be partnered up with a more seasoned Group of missionaries to be working with them at first, correct?
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Yeah, yeah, our mission board wants us to during a transition period Which sometimes can be pretty difficult, you know getting readjusted to the culture language things like that our mission board wants us to be working with a more seasoned missionary for the first one to two years and we're gonna be working with them.
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They're gonna be Helping us Again during that the transition time a lot of the changes that are going to be happening and throughout the process even like the paperwork process and Just getting settled in into life there.
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We're gonna be working alongside someone that can help us and that can Encourage us and you know, hold us accountable during that time so When you get there, you're gonna and I'm not even going to attempt to to Pronounce the
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University, this is the school. So if FEBU I'm gonna let you
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Properly pronounce it because well, I don't I don't even pretend to speak Spanish but The the college you're gonna be going to to train people for folks who realize tell a little bit about What that school's purpose and goals are and how it achieves them
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Yeah, so the Bible College is called FEBU and it stands for Facultad de
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Estudios Bíblicos del Uruguay which would roughly translate would be the
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Uruguayan Bible College and Its purpose and goals is really to equip and train the nationals with with solid biblical training and And They started back in 2014, so it's a relatively new
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Bible College and they not only are trying to reach the
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Christians in Uruguay, but they're also trying to reach all the countries in South America with this biblical training with online classes, and so they have students from Chile from Argentina from Paraguay, I think and so they
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They offer these classes online and as well It's I'm still pretty small.
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So they have about probably 20 to 30 students right now online and in person and You know when we go back we really want to try to travel around Able to visit churches be able to recruit more students
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Because we just think it's it's a wonderful opportunity That is available there for the people to learn about the
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Bible so Folks, if you are hearing
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Timo my encouragement to you is well, obviously first pray for them Just picture yourself.
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I especially I'm gonna say pray for his wife picture you He's Timo is a little bit more familiar with the the the environment he going into but picture having your family always around You've always been around your family and now you're gonna pick up and not just move out of the town
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Or out of the county or out of the state, but out of the country
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Learn a whole new language learn a whole new culture That's not an easy thing and so be praying because like I said, not only is she doing all that while pregnant
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Having a newborn, you know, I mean these are major major issues and Timo and Alex are dealing with it together like all at the same time.
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Let's just throw everything in at once So if they you know, like you survive this everything else in life, it's just gonna be easy to know
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Right, but if if it if you God would put it on your heart to be praying for them
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And as he mentioned if you if you want to if you're on Facebook and you want to follow along You know just on Facebook look for the group
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It's Timo and Alex's prayer group And so there you could find out more details about what they're doing and how you could be praying for them
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I think you just had a post not too long ago about some training you were just out doing training and you were talking about that about going and so I Folks that's one way that you could be doing is praying in form and if you're on Facebook, you can find out more about how to pray more effectively a second thing that I would
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Encourage you if God puts it on your heart Maybe you can individually donate to get him up to full
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The full support he needs so that he will be able to get out there in time and not have delays He can't he
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I don't think he's gonna be able to go until he's fully supported or at least close to it So if you guys would if it
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God puts it on your heart to do that go to biblical Ministries org and just look up Timothy Hawk H o
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CK as he said So if you can do that another thing may
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I ask you to consider is if you want maybe you could talk to your church and their missions board about having
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Timo come in and Be able to present to your church and maybe your church would consider bringing him on as a missionary and then of course then you would get more reports from him as it from the church and They would they would be blessed you'd be blessed so may you consider doing that so You know with that.
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I just want to encourage you guys to think about that. Let you know, we can get too focused here in America of what we're doing and just turn a blind eye to what's going on in the rest of the world and Yet the rest of the world needs the gospel just as much as your neighbor does and so God has called
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Timo and Alex to Go somewhere Well far south from here and To go and pick up and and go to your way may you consider supporting them helping them?
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And give you several ways you could do that any any other things Timo that you'd want to share with folks or ways that they could partner alongside you
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Yeah, I mean Prayer is one of the biggest things that we always ask for when we're visiting churches missing people
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You have no idea how much your your prayers affect the lives of missionaries and as that is the most important thing even if you aren't able to You know support us financially prayer is the greatest thing that you could do for us be praying for us.
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It's it's been a This process of getting to your weight has been very long and you know,
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I know it's it's not easy for but my wife Alexa or You know her family this whole process
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And you know once we get down You know, we'll have a newborn. There's gonna be a lot of transitions be praying for us be praying for all those things
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Be praying for the rest of our support to come in. We're at about 85 % of our support right now and we are planning on leaving and By Christmas of this year
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He'll be praying for the rest of this year that that support can come in praying for the churches. We're visiting pray for All the visits that we have to do for our travels for the moving internationally and There's a lot of other things paperwork that needs to be done beforehand when we get there
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I'll be praying for all of those things. We really really appreciate your prayers above anything
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So folks may you do that may you be praying may you consider supporting But I hope that maybe some of you have the idea saying you know what
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I really never thought of missions maybe there's something I could do because some of us have a fear maybe of going out and going to a new country and having to try to share the gospel and Lead people to Christ and then plant a church and things like that and here what you're hearing
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Timo being able to do is Yes, he's got to learn the languages Well, he knew the language but his wife has learned language
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But to learn a new language and be able to help locals so they could go into Their areas with the gospel.
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It's it's a different way. Maybe than you've heard of with missions I think it's a better way, but that's just my opinion.
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And so May you consider it? Maybe God's putting it on your heart to do that or maybe
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God puts it on your heart to support Timo We wanted to give you that opportunity to hear about what he's doing and to be able to See how you might be able to come alongside a fellow brother and sister in Christ and be able to serve the kingdom
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Outside of your local community. And so I hope this has been encouraging to you I hope you'll get in touch with him and maybe even support him and with that folks.
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