April 30 2000 Evening Service — David Ravenhill

There is a saying that the enemy of the best is the good, and I want to talk to you tonight on the habitation of God. I was going to minister on something else, but I feel that I should go in this direction.

The Abiding Presence of God

There's a verse that challenges me in John chapter 14, and it says there that if anyone loves me, verse 23, he will keep my word and my father will love him. And we will come and we will make our abode with him.

I don't know about you, but as much as I appreciate the touch of God, and I've prayed for thousands of people, I guess, being involved with the Awake America Crusades and seeing some wonderful things happen, and yet I'm convinced there's a greater realm, and the greater realm is not just the touch of God, but the abiding presence of God.

And I find that a lot of people running around from conference to conference, from big shot to big shot, wanting to be prayed for and wanting to get the latest sort of fix, and we have this wonderful promise, listen, there is the abiding presence, something that does not just sort of dissipate before the meeting's over or before you get home, but a conscious presence of God in your life 24 hours a day, day in and day out.

The one that said, I'll never leave you, I'll never forsake you. And I long, and I know many of you do, to have God dwelling within us, and all the way through the scriptures you have men, again like David, we talked about him this morning, asking that question, Lord, how can I abide where you abide?

How can I ascend into your holy hill, Lord? How can I dwell? Not just visit. The word there is dwell in your presence. How can I sort of cohabit with you? I want to know God again in this abiding way, if you abide in me, John 15, and my words abide in you, not just if we visit each other once in a while, not if we just see one another once in a while, but again, that permanent relationship with God.

Environments, Atmospheres, and Cultures

I'm going to use a number of words interchangeably tonight, and the first part of this message will be somewhat lighthearted, but I'm going somewhere, so bear with me, but I'm going to use a number of words, the word environment, the word atmosphere, the word habitation that we've already mentioned, and the word culture.

All of those words are sort of similar. I lived up in the Northwest for almost five years, passed it up there, very beautiful part of the nation with all its towering mountains and snow-capped peaks and wonderful rivers and the Puget Sound area, and up there, the environmentalists are alive and well.

If you spit, they declare it a national wetlands. It's almost that radical, but what they will tell you is that if we destroy certain elements of that land, we will deprive certain creatures and bugs and insects and so on of their habitat, and therefore, we have to preserve certain type of foliage, you know, certain trees and this and that, the water and so on and so forth, and obviously, there is truth in that, and so there are certain elements that need to be brought together for a plant or an animal or whatever to survive, a certain, again, habitation.

The other word is the word environment, or the word atmosphere, rather, and again, an atmosphere talks about bringing together certain elements. We could dim the lights as we had them dimmed a little earlier on, play a certain type of music and create an atmosphere in here.

We could have you all sleeping, snoring loudly within a matter of a little while if we played this sort of right, you know, mellow lullaby type of music. On the other hand, we can brighten the lights, we can play militant marching music, and all of a sudden, you're aroused and you feel like fighting, and so we can create an atmosphere.

And then the word culture. Culture is the way in which you and I have been raised, our culture. We have the American culture, the British culture. I didn't think there was too much of a difference between the two cultures until I came to this country as a 14-year-old, had my 15th birthday here.

My father moved our family, and we settled in Minnesota at a Bible college where my father sort of based his ministry for a while, and I had not been at that school many, many days, started to play with some of the staff kids.

It was a school that emphasized holiness, sanctification, and I was horrified to find out that these kids were swearing. They were horrified to find out that Leonard Ravenhill's son was swearing. So we realized we had a clash of cultures.

You see, I was not swearing in my culture, but I was in yours. They were not swearing in your culture, but they were in mine. And I realized that words that are swear words in England are not swear words in America and vice versa.

And we are raised in a particular culture, aren't we, a way of doing things. And I've traveled reasonably extensively and lived in a number of different places, born in England, lived in Ireland, America here, all over America, New Zealand, up in New Guinea, and then of course visited numerous other places.

And I'm somewhat intrigued, again, with cultures, the way people do things. Fascinating, isn't it? Elder's daughter, Lisa, is in China. She was home at Christmas time, and she is an avid sort of photographer.

I don't mean professional. She doesn't have any fancy equipment, just a little point-and-shoot camera, but she's always taking pictures. And in China, you know, for a couple of bucks, you can get them developed, and things are cheap.

And so she's got literally albums full of pictures as she's traveled around different places in China. And so I'm thumbing through her photo album. Here she is in a marketplace. And I sort of flip back.

I think I see something, but I'm not sure, and sure enough, there in the marketplace is all this meat hanging there. But the meat that was hanging there were dogs, great big dogs, all nicely skinned and ready.

Ready to go. Culture. Some of you sort of got wheezy stomachs and think of your poor dog at home, heard about the pastor's dog today. You can imagine that little fellow just all strung up there and nicely shaved, ready to go in the pot.

Culture. What would make us sick would make them drool, an area of that country, again, where my daughter is, where there are a lot of minority tribes, and there's one of those tribes, and everybody in that tribe has nice long fingernails, not as a fashion statement, but so you can more effectively pick your nose.

And in that culture, it's not wrong to sit there with your friends and sort of work away at whatever bothers you. And what better way to do it than to have a tool with you at all times. It's fascinating, isn't it?

What we frown upon, other people, you know, just take for granted. Some cultures, we're in the middle of your meal, the louder the belch and the longer the belch, the more you're telling your host that you're enjoying the meal, and whoever's responsible for the cooking did a wonderful job.

We do it in our culture, and father looks at you, and brother nudges you, and mother kicks you under the table, reminds you that we've got company, and please don't embarrass us. And so, again, what is wrong in one culture is perfectly acceptable and normal in another culture.

Back in 1987, we were living in New Zealand, and I traveled from Christchurch, the city we were living in, down to the city of Dunedin, which is a Scottish city, or at least established by the Scots. My daughter was there in university at the time, I should say our daughter, and I got up one morning, and I was waiting for breakfast as I was staying with some people, some friends of ours, and picked up the morning newspaper, and there was an article that sort of intrigued me.

It was on the front page of what was called the Otago Daily Times, and it talked about a museum exhibit that was traveling throughout New Zealand of the Inca civilization. And these various artifacts and pieces of jewelry and pottery and agricultural implements and so on, weavings, were all being put on display, but it said the pride and joy of this particular museum exhibit was the mummified remains of an Inca person.

And that mummy supposedly was 1 ,200, 1 ,500 years of age. And this exhibit was touring around the various major cities of New Zealand, then going over to Australia and so on, and the article said that New Zealand was the only country where this mummy was not being displayed.

And then it gave the reason why, it said because it would offend the Maori people, the Maoris are the original inhabitants of New Zealand, the equivalent of our Native Americans, they're very superstitious when it comes to things to do with death and so on.

They have certain cultural things that, again, would make that offensive to them, and so the government was sensitive to their culture, and rather than offend them, chose not to display this particular mummy.

See, the Bible says a brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city. Some of you have offended somebody, and you've done everything you can to try and rectify that offense, you've written letters, you've phoned, you've apologized, and so on, but to this day there's still a breach in your relationship.

And I could go on and on and on about different cultures and humorous things, about the way in which people do things that, you know, would horrify us, I'll just give you one more. When my wife and I were in New Guinea, we had a friend who worked in a very primitive area, most of New Guinea is very primitive, three million people, 700 languages, not dialects, actual languages, Wycliffe, Wycliffe have the largest base in the world there, and one of these missionaries was telling us that after he had been in this particular area for a while, working on translating the Scriptures, that one of the nationals came up to him and had a question, and the question was concerning the missionary's handkerchief.

He'd never seen a handkerchief before, it was a new thing to him, novel thing to him, but he noticed that every time the missionary blew his nose, he took out this beautiful white piece of cloth, proceeded to blow his nose and sort of fold it up, put it in his pocket, always sort of tapped his pocket, you know, make sure it was in there, and the question was, why'd you save that stuff and what'd you do with it?

After all, it was always an immaculate piece of cloth that represented something of value, obviously, and it was gathered very carefully and folded up very carefully, and in his mind, maybe there was some sort of commodity here that he could trade in, I don't know.

After all, we've been wasting on the ground for hundreds of years, and these brilliant Europeans have got, you know, all these gadgets and so on, they know a lot more than we do, so maybe there's something of value here.

God’s Culture and the Believer’s Habitation

Now, I share all that to say this, that I believe that God lives in a certain environment, God has a particular atmosphere that he's looking for, and God has his ways of doing things. We looked this morning at Moses, teach me your ways, oh Lord, Lord, let me understand your culture, because in our culture, you know, that's not wrong, in our culture this is acceptable, but Lord, it seems in your culture, that's not acceptable.

I mean, really, that's the essence of the ways of God, isn't it? Why does he do things the way he does? What is it that God values? What is it that God hates? I think it's Tozer that says, if you want to flourish spiritually and grow in maturity, love what God loves and hate what God hates, and that's a simple definition, really, of the Christian life, isn't it?

You can't reduce it down to a more basic formula than that. If you love what God loves, you'll thrive spiritually. If you hate what God hates, you'll thrive. But if we love what God hates and we hate what God loves, we've got problems.

So we need to say, Lord, teach me your ways. And the word habitation, again, the word habitat in the Bible means, according to the dictionary at least, the usual place that a plant or an animal is found.

That's the dictionary definition of habitation or habitat, the usual place that a plant or an animal is found. The word habitation in the Bible is one of those words in the Hebrew, and I'm not an expert when it comes to Greek and Hebrew, never really studied it, thank God for Strong's and other works.

But it's one of those words that can be translated in many, many ways. It can be translated tabernacle. It can be translated a place to rest. We talked about tonight in that song, Lord, arise again to your resting place.

It's the word to marry, the word to abide, the word to settle, the word to keep house. And all of those words have a sense of permanence. God is wanting to marry us. The Bible says in Ephesians, we are the habitation of God, or we are becoming the habitation of God, the dwelling place of God.

And He wants to marry you. He wants to rest in you. He wants to settle in you. He wants to keep house, so to speak. He wants you to become His tabernacle. If you have your Bible, turn to Exodus chapter 25, and then we'll go to the New Testament.

I don't want you to think I only preach out of the Old Testament. I love the Old Testament. I'm more pictorial, I guess, and I like stories. And so I can sort of get a hold of principles in the New Testament from stories in the Old Testament.

That's just the way my brain works, I guess. But Exodus chapter 25, God appears to Moses, and I want you to see this. This is not Moses begging God. This is not Moses at the end of 40 days of prayer and fasting, sort of twisting the arm of God, trying to extract something from Him.

This is God taking the initiative. And He comes to Moses, and He says in verse 8, Moses, I want you to build or construct a sanctuary for me that I may dwell among you, or among them. In other words, Moses, I want to come and I want to dwell with my people, not just visit.

And I want you to build a sanctuary. I want you to build a habitation. I want you to build me a house. I want you to build me a place where I can settle, where I can marry, where I can have a permanent abode with my people.

After all, God's a Father. And as a Father, He wants to be with His children. And so, in verse 8, God expresses His desires. And God's desire is, and He is the unchanging God, God's desire is to dwell in your life and my life.

I am the Lord, and I change not. Thank God for that. Thank God that God has not become sort of grumpy over the years, and sort of, you know, things get on His nerves now, and He doesn't want to be with His kids, you know, or not sort of grandchildren that, you know, He picks us up and plays with a while, and then sort of, here, you can have them back.

That's the beauty of being a grandparent, but God isn't a grandfather. He wants to be with His family. He wants to be with His children. And He wants to dwell with us permanently. He's not one of those fathers that just sort of comes and goes, and flits in and out, and visits for a while, and so on.

I want to be with my family, and so God expresses, again, His desire. Verse 9, God expresses now His demands. And we need to see, as we look at these two verses, that we're understanding something about the ways of God.

Notice, He says, according to all that I'm going to show you, as to the pattern of the tabernacle and the pattern of all its furniture, just so you shall construct it. In other words, after expressing His desire, He says, now Moses, before you get any bright ideas, listen, I'm not going to dwell anywhere.

As much as I want to come, as much as I long to come, I want you to build me a habitation according to my specifications. And Moses, make sure you build it exactly. So we find out something about God.

God's finicky, if you like. He's fussy. He's particular. He won't dwell anywhere. He's not flexible in that sense. He doesn't say, listen, you know, I realize you don't have much room, and any old place will do.

And so really, what He does, He takes Moses up into the mountain, and I believe there, there is an unveiling of what is going on in heaven, and He said, Moses, I want you to replicate all of this on earth.

I want you to duplicate all this. I want the same environment on earth that I have in heaven. I want the same conditions on earth that I'm used to in heaven. Make sure that you make it exactly the way I tell you.

I'll give you the type of furniture. I'll give you the color scheme. I'll give you the length and the breadth of the tabernacle. I'll tell you exactly where to place that furniture. I'll tell you the height of that furniture.

I'll tell you what rooms to, you know, put it in, and so on and so forth. And make sure you don't take any liberties. And so we find out something about God. God longs to be in your life. He longs to be in my life.

He wants to abide with us. That's very clear. But He won't abide anywhere. Conditions have to be met. Now, you can tell a lot about a person by visiting their home. Sometimes, as I travel, I'm placed in people's homes.

And I've been in all types of homes over the many, many years. I remember when we were at Teen Challenge in New York City, my father had an invitation to go up to the Thousand Island area there between America and Canada, up in the St. Lawrence Seaway.

And there was a brother there. I don't know what's happened to him. But anyway, he had bought an island called Dark Island. It was a nine-acre island. And on that island, there was a castle. It was built by the head of the Singer Sewing Machine Company back about 1904 or 1912, something like that.

And it was an absolutely fascinating place. And he had acquired it for literally a song. And here was this beautiful castle, you know, up on nine acres, built up. And you pulled up at the dock. And there was a big, long spiral sort of drive going up to the castle with a clock tower.

I mean, it was a real castle. You went inside. There were all the stone arches. There were knights of armor. There were tapestries. I mean, it was unbelievable. And we spent a week there. We went into the, what would be the library, huge library with, you know, bookcases all the way around.

Magnificent fireplace. On either side of the fireplace was a beautiful wood panel. And then the books started. And we discovered that, actually, we were shown, but we discovered some others, that if you reach behind the books, there was a lever recessed back in the bookcase.

And you lift it up, and this panel just swung open. And you could wander all the way through that castle, secret passages everywhere. It was absolutely an amazing place. Still is, I guess. Hollywood had used it to film some sort of war thing.

It was used as a Nazi base. But it was absolutely intriguing. But I've also slept in grass huts in Fiji and almost shivered to death way up in the mountains of Fiji where you were thinking Fiji with all its palm trees and so on.

This was up where there were pines. And so I've been in all sorts of homes. And you can go into a home, and you can tell a lot about that person. They may not even be there. There's been times when I've been taken to a home by a pastor and say, listen, this is going to be the place you're going to be staying for the next few days.

These people have made the house available for you. They're both working right now. They'll be home in a little while. They just said to make yourself comfortable. And I can go into that home. I've never met this couple.

But just looking around that home tells me a tremendous amount about them. Tells me the sort of likes and dislikes they have. Tells me many times if they're well off or if they're poor. Tells me if they're neat or sloppy.

Tells me if they're clean or dirty. Tells me if they're educated or uneducated many times. Just looking at the books and the type of things that they read. Maybe sometimes I'll come in through the garage, and there's a whole bunch of jet skis, or skis, and a jet boat, and fishing rods, and everything else.

And I think, boy, these guys are really into sport. They've obviously got teenagers and so on. Go inside, maybe there's some animals mounted in the den, and I think this guy's into hunting. You know, look in the shelves and see the type of books they're reading.

I think, obviously, there's a doctor, a lawyer in the house. These are all medical books. Are these all books about law? You know, sometimes they're all cooking books, recipe books. And I think this is going to be a great weekend.

But, you know, they're not even there. And I can look through that home, and I can see, you know, maybe there's a piano. Maybe there's a flute lying there. Maybe there's, you know, some music on the stand.

And I realize, you know, somebody here is playing the flute. There's obviously a musical family, and all of those things, just by going into the house and saying, this is the atmosphere that these people live in.

This is their habitat. And it tells me so much about them. If you have your Bible, again, turn with me to Revelation, because what we want to do now is go into the house of God. And we want to see God's dwelling place.

We want to understand. After all, if we are becoming the habitation of God, we need to know what God is looking for. We need to have a little bit of a glimpse as to what He's used to. And here in Revelation chapter four, and don't get afraid, I don't go any further in Revelation than chapter four or five.

I leave that to the experts. I figure the muddy, the waters are muddy enough without me making them any worse. So I never preach or teach on eschatology, because I haven't figured it out. I know He's coming back, but I don't know when.

And that's the extent of it. My eschatology is summarized in be ready for in such an hour as you think not. And I don't know the bus schedule, but I'm gonna be at the bus stop. I think there's an awful lot of people think they've got the bus schedule down pat and they'll show up just in the nick of time.

Chances are they'll miss it, but those that are waiting will get it regardless of whether they know the schedule or not. That's the essence of my theology right there. Anyway, Revelation chapter four.

The Throne and the Holiness of God

John now is invited in to the dwelling place of God. We talked about the presence of God this morning. Tonight, what we're trying to do is get a hold of how to continue on in the presence of God, not just have it as a sort of a passing thing, but Lord, you're abiding presence in our lives.

Verse one, after these things, I looked and behold, a door was standing open in heaven, and a voice which I heard like the sound of a trumpet speaking to me, and he said, come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things.

And immediately, I was in the spirit. So here is John now, and he hears a voice, and the door of heaven opens. Again, in a sort of a candid way, God's house has got a door just the same way your house has got a door.

I trust when you go home tonight, you don't have to crawl through the window, that you go in through the door. And so God opens the door. There's a voice from inside, John, I want you to come in here.

And John is invited in to the house of God, the dwelling place of God. And he says, immediately, I was in the spirit. And behold, he says, a throne was open in heaven, or standing in heaven, and one sitting on the throne.

Now before John is conscious of anything else, he is overwhelmed as he is ushered into the house of God, into the presence of God, there is only one thing that takes his attention, and it's the throne.

And he says, the very first thing I became conscious of was the throne, and the throne was occupied, there was one sitting on the throne. Now what is the throne? The throne, obviously, is the place of power, the place of authority, the place where God reigns and rules, the place where he decrees and sends forth again his will and his purpose, he executes his plan and purpose, he extends his scepter.

It's the place, again, of his kingdom, the place of his dominion, and you say, well, what does that have to do with you and me? It has everything to do with you and me. You see, God only has one dwelling place, really, and that dwelling place is the throne.

The word habitation, again, according to the dictionary, the usual place that someone or something is found, the only place that God is found, Old Testament, New Testament, is the throne. Swear not by heaven, why?

It's the throne of God. I saw the Lord high and lifted up, what? Seated upon his throne. God is always on the throne. His kingdom rules over all, and so if God is going to find rest in your life and my life, if he's going to abide in your life and my life, if he's gonna reside there, he demands a throne.

He will not take a secondary role. He will not sit in any other place. He's the king. And I think, and I'm convinced after 35 years of ministry that one of the greatest mistakes that we've made is to think that somehow we can have God in all of his majesty sort of sitting over here somewhere and we can maintain our position on the throne.

I want you to know, you're welcome in this house, but I'm in control. It's my money, it's my time. I'll call the shots, I'll make the decisions. Make yourself comfortable anywhere you want, but don't touch the throne.

Now, we don't do it in so many ways, but we really do do it, don't we? I'm sure a lot of people had legitimate excuses not to be in the house of God tonight, but a lot of them just decided I don't wanna go because they are on the throne and they call the shots and they make the decisions.

And it's no wonder why we don't have the abiding presence of God, because we grieve him. We treat him like one of us, in fact, less than who we are. We don't give him the honor, we don't give him the respect, we don't give him that which is due, his holy name.

We don't treat him as a king, and not just a king, but the king of kings. And we have the audacity to think that this God in all of his glory and all of his majesty, the one that creates the heaven and the earth, the one that rules, again, over the earth, that sits above the vault of the earth and reduces rulers to nothing, that can take the heart of a king and turn it as a river of water, that God in all of his splendor and majesty can take a secondary role to meet my ways.

It's a very serious thing and it has to be settled. I don't believe that we will ever, ever, ever, I don't care how much theology you get, I don't believe we will ever know the abiding presence of God until we come to that place of surrender, absolute surrender, of yielding everything and abdicating, if you like, the throne, getting off the throne.

We had a king in England, forget his name now, was it Henry VIII, not Henry VIII, but Edward, in my lifetime, who served for, I think it was only three months or six months at the most, fell in love with an American, Lady Spencer.

And of course at that time, the British would not accept the fact that he was marrying a divorcee and so he had a choice to continue to reign and give up his love affair or to surrender the throne and embrace this woman.

He went on national radio, there was no television in those days and he announced that he could not live without this woman and therefore he was surrendering the throne of England in favor of his love relationship with this woman.

How much do you love him? Are you willing to surrender the throne? Willing to step down and say, Lord, I surrender all to Jesus, I surrender all to him, I freely give. King of my life, I crown thee now.

Thine shall the glory be. Let's move on. The next thing that John becomes aware of is in verse eight, the four living creatures, each one of them having six wings full of eyes around and within, and day and night they do not cease but to say, holy, holy, holy is the Lord God, the Almighty, who was, who is, who is to come.

John now becomes aware of the fact that he is standing on holy ground. And isn't this true consistently all the way through the word of God that wherever God is, it is holy? When Moses approached that burning bush and he got within a certain distance, the voice of the Spirit of God said to him, Moses, no further.

Take your shoes off your feet. The place you're standing is holy ground. When Joshua was surveying Jericho out there, musing, meditating in the fields, and he had that encounter again with the angel of the Lord, the captain of the host, and he began to approach, and the angel says to him again, remove your shoes, your sandals.

The place you're standing is holy ground. When Isaiah, or Isaiah, went into the house of God, again I saw the Lord high and lifted up. I saw the seraphim crying out one to another, holy, holy, holy. In the tabernacle, there is the outer court, there is the holy place, but you find the Spirit of God were in the holy of holies.

You see, God says to Moses, see to it that you make it, Moses, exactly according to the pattern. I will not dwell in an unclean place. I will not dwell where there's sin and rebellion. Moses, make it exactly the way you've seen it in heaven.

And notice something about this holiness. Verse eight, it says, by day and by night, they do not cease to say holy, holy, holy. It was not a holiness of convenience that sort of kicked in on a Sunday morning between 10 and 12, or again, Sunday evening, 6 .30 to 8 .30 or whatever.

It was a day and night holiness. It was constant, it was consistent, it was never changed. That's the atmosphere that God dwells in. And if he is going to rest in your life and marry into you and dwell within you, he doesn't want a holiness that he sort of just put on for a few hours, but then when we get home, we can sort of relax and kick back and flip on the television and watch things that we'd be embarrassed to watch if others were there watching them with us, pick up a book and read some lewd sort of thing, thumb through a magazine and gaze at the pictures and say, well, of course, you know, church is over now.

We can sort of, no. Again, we're understanding the ways of God. Teach me your ways, Moses said, that I may know you. Lord, what do you value? What do you place value on? Lord, in your culture, what is important?

In my culture, this isn't very important. Tonight's news, major march there in Washington, D .C., the gay rights movement blatantly flaunting their agenda and so on. And we're not allowed to say anything about it, why?

Because these days we have to be politically correct. And we're the ones with the problem. And so we sort of gradually over a period of years, we begin to accommodate and we begin to adjust our thinking, don't we?

Because nobody wants to be looked at as being weird. But we've got to understand the ways of God. Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty. There's an interesting story there in the Old Testament. You know it well, but an interesting little insight into that story, it's the story of Noah.

And at the end of the 40 days after the rain had ceased, Noah was trying to determine whether it was safe to open the doors of the ark. It would be clear from a study of that that the only light was divine light.

The only light that came in was from above. There was no porthole. And so Noah releases a raven, the Bible says, and the raven flew here and there. You see, a raven is an unclean bird. It will settle on debris.

It will settle on some sort of bloated carcass. It will settle on filth as well as something clean. And Moses could not, or Noah rather, could not determine that the waters had abated. And so it says that he released a dove.

And the dove is female. And it says that the dove flew around, but there was no resting place for the sole of her foot. And Noah knew that the waters had not abated. You see, the dove again, a type of the Holy Spirit, the dove being so sensitive, the dove flew out there and it could not settle because all there was to settle on was that which was filthy and impure.

And the dove comes back and Noah takes that dove and he takes it into the ark and he waits for seven days. And then he releases the dove again. And it says this time towards evening, the dove came back with a freshly picked olive leaf in her mouth and Noah knew the waters have resided.

It's now safe to open the doors. It's now safe to go out because the dove will only settle with his life. And many times we're trying to get the dove to settle, aren't we? And he can't find a resting place for the sole of his feet.

Remember in New Guinea one night we had traveling evangelists that came through. He had a small Bible school and they were out on a sort of an outreach. They stayed with us there at the youth of the mission base that I was in charge of at the time.