Book of 1 Thessalonians - Ch. 1, Vs. 1 Revisited (10/19/2003)

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I'm going to go back to the first lesson that we had in 1st Thessalonians So if you'll open your

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Bibles to 1st Thessalonians 1 We'll start It begins

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Paul Silas and Timotheus Unto the church of the

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Thessalonians Which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ Grace be unto you and peace from God our

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Father and the Lord Jesus Christ This sylvanus

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Was referred to in the scripture as Silas Brian his nickname was woody

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He was a Roman citizen The companion of Apostle Paul on several of his missionary journeys

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Now the thing I want to direct your attention to this is the phrase in God and in the

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Lord Jesus Christ When you are speaking of something being in something

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That means you're not going into it. You are into it If I told you to go into the house

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That would be correct. But if you're in the house, I don't tell you to go into a room

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You go in a room because you're in the house Get that fixed in your mind

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We're going to look at scripture today from God's viewpoint for the most part

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Dennis everything and That's a bunch

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Andre it was all in God Not in to God, but in God Now I cannot explain

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God other than God everything and Of course, we can't think of everything but everything you can think of was in God Whether you thought of it or not, what's your name

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TC? We have to put time to everything we cannot think without thinking time

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Even when you say time you're thinking of time That's the only way we can speak.

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We cannot speak knowingly outside of time because we're in time, but there was only

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God only In the beginning when you say in the beginning you're placing time

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Let's look at some scripture that Explain it from God's viewpoint first God the

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Father needed something or someone To stand between himself and man

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Why Dennis? That's right so Jesus the

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Christ first it was the Christ Later, he was born Jesus separate those two

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Christ and Jesus Christ was born in this world, but he already existed.

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Jesus did not exist until he was born Christ was brought forth out of God For this purpose he

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Being God could no longer come down and walk with man because man was sinful so there had to be something between man and God the first scripture.

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You don't need to look these up First Samuel 23 16 and Jonathan Saul's son arose and Went to David into the woods and strengthened his hand in God Joy I know you've heard this before but I'm gonna tell you again

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His hand drew the strength from God because he was in God Get that fixed in your mind that you were in God Psalm 62 7 and God is my salvation and my glory

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The rock of my strength and my refuge is in God David knew where his strength came from Because he was in God Psalm 63 11

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But the king shall rejoice in God Everyone that's worth by him shall glory

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But the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped

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The king himself knew that he was in God Psalm 78 7 that they might set their hope in God and Not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments

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Joy, their very hope was in God. It's the only place it could be in God Acts 1634 and When he had brought them into his house he set meat before them and Rejoiced believing in God with all his house

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He was in God believing in God Are you beginning to get the feeling that Dennis that we're in God?

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Can you grasp the awesome being in God Andrea that that is

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Well, it just blew my mind away when I finally realized that God was everything and That I was in him

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Romans 5 11 and Not only so but we also joy in God Through our

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Lord Jesus Christ by whom we have now received the atonement all of our joy

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Appears while we're where joy In God The scripture tell us over and over and over that we are in God.

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Everything was in God there was nothing outside of God in the beginning and I use beginning because that's the only way

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I know to speak it 2nd Corinthians 1 9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves that we should not trust in ourselves

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But in God which raises the dead You don't trust in yourself

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Dennis We used to when

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I was a kid. I did I didn't know the difference But Bob now,

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I know the difference Ephesians 3 9 and To make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery?

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Which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God? Who created all things by Jesus Christ in the beginning when

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God began to create Bara He spoke into existence and that has to be in in our language

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That's the only way we can understand he spoke into existence Andrea everything

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I Hope we can go back to Genesis for long and at least study the first part of it

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All things were hid and were present in God joy Brian think of something that God has not thought of Can you

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Dennis? Your answer ain't awfully quick Well, it's impossible to think of anything that God has not already thought of Yet, he's not a man that he should think like man

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Colossians 3 3 For you are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God Christ was in God Christ came out of God God produced him the

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Manifestation of himself Bob where we hid

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Where are we hid in God and We have

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Christ also We have been in God all of the time first Timothy 5 5 now she that is a widow indeed and desolate trusteth in God and Continueth in supplications and prayers night and day

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Andre if you're going to trust someone or something Where do you have to start from?

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Where are you when you start? in God joy

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Can you? visualize that I Hope I'm getting it across Because it becomes more real to me all of the time being in God Titus 3 8

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This is a faithful saying and these things I will that thou affirm constantly

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That they which have believed in God Might be careful to maintain good works.

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These things are good and profitable on demand if you

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Believe You have to be in God to do good works you have to be in God first Peter 1 21

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Who by him do believe in God? that raised him from the dead and gave him glory that your faith and Hope might be in God Dennis if you're going to believe

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Where do you have to start from? Were you ever outside of God No, you were not all of his children

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The saved were in him First you had to believe in to God No, that's wrong.

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You had to believe in God you were in him Now that's from our view not

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God's But we find faith and hope in God 1

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Peter 3 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also

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Who trusted in God? Adorned themselves being in subjection unto their own husbands

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So we find Brian that the women of old times that's not talking about old women

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But it's talking about the women of old times the olden times the first testament times

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We're in God So Andrea you were once in God first John 4 15

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Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God God dwelleth in him and he in God a person cannot confess

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That Jesus is the Son of God unless first he be in God This brings up a question

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Dennis you answer When did you trust?

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Was it before you were saved or after? Well, you answered the first the second part also you were just were never saved

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The being saved is man's viewpoint there has to be some radical change in my life

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But not with God TC he

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You were always in God and he recognized you as being one of his

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As far as he's concerned We were always his first John 4 16 and We have known and believed in love that God hath to us

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God is love and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God and God in him

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It comes down to the fact That we're in God We have always been in God We are now in God we shall always be in God Now that's several scriptures that Prove the fact that we are in God Well, what's the purpose of Jesus?

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Well, let us now look at that name Jesus Christ The Romans 3 26 to declare

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I say at this time His righteousness that he might be just and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus Christ Brian Brian just tell me off the top of your head

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Why was Jesus necessary? Apparently he was necessary now why?

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Well, you could answer that with that statement for anything and it's true

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All right Andre can you Andrea I never have known your name

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I'll just say hey you Can you add anything to that All right

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Visual that's a good point Why was

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Jesus necessary? All right

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Bob why did Jesus come into the world as Jesus? There you go again

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I'm looking for a reason All right

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Greg Greg tell me why did Jesus come into the world? That's it

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Jesus came to die Now he died

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What she do answer? Speak up He died an unnatural death

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Did the soldiers let me ask you Did the soldiers kill him?

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Everybody's answering no No No, they didn't he committed his soul his spirit to God and the body died

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He bowed his head and then he died So Jesus had to come to die he had to come as a man because that's what we were

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So we find that we who believe must believe in to Jesus. You cannot just believe in God And there's lots and lots of people that do

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Jews, especially You must believe in his son

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Jesus the Christ Galatians 2 16 Knowing that a man is not

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Justified by the works of the law But by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed

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In Jesus Christ that we might be justified by the faith of Jesus Christ and not by the works of the law

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For by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified

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Brian is the faith of Jesus as Jesus's faith. It's not ours

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Now we have given been given custodianship of it to use faith

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Jesus certainly didn't need it We gain access to faith by being in him

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Let's not get away from the fact that we're in God for in Jesus Christ Neither circumcision availeth anything

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Nor uncircumcision but faith which worketh by love it is the faith

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That is worked by love Unless we are in Jesus Christ You do not have that faith

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And until you recognize that you're in Christ you cannot have that faith

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Now from God's view looking at us everything all his children were in him

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Ephesians 4 21 if so be that you have heard him and Have been taught by him as the truth is in Jesus now we come down to the truth the truth of the matter is

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Jesus the truth is Jesus Unless we have heard him have been taught by him.

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We cannot have the truth for it is him Philippians 1 26 that your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ For me by my coming to you again

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In Jesus Christ Then it's the same as being in God only there's one step in between now

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It's always been there. We just didn't cover it in the beginning But now we have injected

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Jesus Christ The world may have joy joy But not like you and I do they cannot have unless they are in Jesus Christ and Brian tell me why can't just anybody believe in Jesus Christ and have this joy?

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well Was the saving on their part if they had been saved would they have known him?

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He's blinded their eyes That they cannot believe and understand

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But he opened our eyes so that we could believe and understand We're understanding more all of the time first the length

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Thessalonians 4 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again even so them also would sleep in Jesus Will God bring with him?

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now Bob When you die, you'll go to be with Jesus To me that's a very comforting thought

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So I know not where I'll be after death But one thing

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I do know I'll be with Jesus Jude 1 1

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Jude the servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James to them that are sanctified by God the

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Father and preserved in Jesus Christ and called here

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Dennis It is God that sanctified That called us in Christ.

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He used Christ to call us We are the called

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We are preserved in Jesus Even sanctified in him so we find that we are called by God the

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Father and Are kept by Jesus the Christ Now there's many more places in the

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Bible That I'm sure we could look and find being in God and in Christ Paul says

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I give thanks to God always for you all making mention of you in our prayers

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Remembering without ceasing your work of faith and labor of love and patience of hope in our

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Lord Jesus Christ Now I have here an illustration

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Of how this can be Let's let this represent

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God It's as good a As anybody's since nobody has seen him

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But when you open God up you find Jesus Jesus Christ Jesus stood between God and man.

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He was the God man Jesus Christ the

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Christ I like to say he was in the office of Christ Christ was out of God Jesus Became man and We find that we were in man.

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We're in Jesus So we got

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God we got Jesus Christ and you got you and I Brian, do you see how it works the mechanics of it?

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Now, I don't I don't hope for you to understand Any more than the rest of us, but can you see the the fact that we are in Christ in God That's where we reside that's where we are and we have all of the benefits of God that he has given to his son

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All right If you open us up you find the spirit

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There's the spirit It was in us all of the time

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Spirit in us us in Christ and Christ in God Yes, but not by man

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Yes That's right Simple little illustration, but I thought it fit

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You know Bob we have to see things in this world to believe in them

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But not in the spiritual world you have to believe then you can see well

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We're got plenty of time is there a word from anybody discussion

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No, we'll always We'll always be with Christ called

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Jesus. I Don't think at this time in my life, I cannot think that anyone will ever see

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God I Was thinking this morning

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Mm -hmm Greg you helped me out on this if everything

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Absolutely everything stars planets space Rocks trees you and I was in God Wouldn't that make him awfully big?

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yet they say the Cosmos is expanding

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Andre I guess if everything was in him it could have been compacted in him

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But anyway, we go at it. We do we cannot see God even mentally I Believe that he is there.

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I Believe that Jesus is his son. I Believe that I exist and That I have a spirit

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All right

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Someone else It just every time

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I start thinking about it it just expands it goes on and on and on It's an awesome thought

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Well, you know, I've always heard the Question or a statement from somebody.

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Well, that's the first thing I'm going to ask him when I get there You won't know

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I Think this world is going to disappear. I Think that he will wipe our minds

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Clear and clean from our past life There won't be any tears in heaven

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There are those that I heard one preacher tell me one time, but they're sitting around watching us

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They're looking through a big hole and they're watching us. I Don't know where he got that idea

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Andrea, but that wouldn't be pleasure To watch me

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Or you another question

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I These young people seated here,

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I hope I Trust I have faith in Christ That you will never quit studying that you will go from this point on, you already know more than I did at your age, because I was very dumb.

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Didn't like school. I now see where it would have benefited me had

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I attended it. I've been there when I was present. It's a great life.

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Anything else? Yes. Okay.

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When he made the statement, if you have seen me, you have seen the Father, he was talking about his works.

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If you have seen my works, you have seen the Father. Not physically, because he's spirit.

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Jesus was on earth as a man. He is a glorified man now, after the resurrection.

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But if I understood your question, how do you reconcile

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Jesus as saying, if you have seen me, you've seen the

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Father, he was talking about his works when he said that. Greg, dismiss us please, will you?