Papal Evolution, Christless Nationalism, Jacob Hansen with ABS

Well, greetings and welcome to The Dividing Line. A little early today, since we're doing this on Friday.

I did announce why, I suppose I should mention, yeah, um, I had to take one of my kitties in to the vet, and that's, man, that is an expensive trip.

Let me tell you, uh, what I've spent in the past 12 days on veterinary bills is, um, yeah, okay, um, sort of stunning.

Anyways, but effective. Um, the little, the little runt is, um, already eating everybody else's food again, which is what he always does.

He's like a vacuum cleaner. We should have named him Hoover, um, instead of Tank. I mean, he just,

I mean, we have this other poor older kitty. He just doesn't eat as fast. I mean,

Tank's just like, and he gets done, then he takes over the other poor cat's food, and the other cat just sort of backs away like, okay, whatever.

Um, but yeah, he's back to his, uh, purr -alicious, uh, self. And, um, but we're going to have to be giving him breathing treatments for a week.

Um, I've got to go by CVS on the way home and pick some of this stuff up. It's a prescription. I mean, I'm going through the same place

I get my own prescription at. And, um, anyway, he's, he's, he was, he had so many boogers in his nose.

And I didn't realize this. Cats won't eat anything they can't smell. So once they can't smell anything at all, they stop eating.

And that's why he hadn't eaten for almost four days. Um, cause he couldn't smell it. And once we got his nose cleaned out, it's like, oh, there's food.

Yay. And, uh, it's like, oh, okay. You know, we sit here and go, well, we eat, eat, whether we can smell it or not, because we know we need to, but they don't make that connection.

So that's, that's how it goes. So he's, he's doing all right. Um, my wife continues.

My wife is pretty much a full -time caretaker for her mom these days. Um, that's what she does.

That's what we, we pay car insurance and gas for is to drive to doctor's appointments all over the

Valley. It's amazing how many hundreds of miles she has to drive all the time.

And, um, yeah, yeah. Just warning my kids. Um, my oldest turns 40 in less than two weeks.

Can you believe that? Cause you, you remember when he was born. So yeah, got 40 years old and in less than two weeks, that's, um, sobering, sobering.

Uh, I don't feel that old, but clearly I am anyway. Hey, before I jump into this, people have said this, that they appreciate it.

So I'll be real quick here. Um, I'm running again. And, uh, some of you have noticed there's not nearly as much of me on the screen as there used to be.

Um, I'm down over 60 pounds since last summer. And, um, uh, fasting is a wonderful thing.

It really is. I only eat five and a half days a week on a normal week, sometimes four and a half, depending on the week.

Um, your body does get used to it. No, you don't sit around all day going on, uh, which is what

I expected. Uh, your body eventually starts going, Oh, it's that day. Okay, cool. And just sort of like you get used to it.

Now, if somebody walks in with a cheeseburger and French fries, that's not a whole lot of fun. Uh, smells can throw you for a loop.

Uh, but as long as you avoid that and my wife and I both fast. And if we do it on the same day, then it works out really easily.

And yeah, she fasts longer than I do. Uh, I normally do about 36 hours. She does a 40.

Um, I I've done 40, but what I've read is once you get past about 33, you start burning muscle and I'm trying to,

I'm lifting, I'm doing weights. I'm doing all sorts of stuff. Well, make a long story short. I realized it had been five years since I had run last.

I had stopped running because of a hernia and, um, it was just too painful. By the time

I got the hernia fixed, I was too heavy to run. Um, I realized if I blow, if I blow a knee,

I'm done. I mean, I look at all the stuff that I do, uh, the rowing and the riding and the leg extensions and leg curls and all that stuff.

It's all knee stuff. You use knees for all of it. And, uh,

I've always been real careful with those knees because once you, once you blow them, yeah, you're, you're what?

Yeah. Yeah. Rich is going, I know. And then yeah, yeah, I know you, yeah, you have that knee issue where you blow it out.

I I've never had that. Um, I have ridden just under 178 ,000 miles on a bike.

Uh, most of that indoors. Now I am very thankful for Zwift and Ruby, which are now the same company as of two days ago, interestingly.

Um, but yeah, uh, so I try to take good care of those knees, but running actually helped my ankles and my knees in the past.

It strengthened stuff. And, uh, so I was like, I'm down to running weight again.

Uh, I wonder if we should try it. I'm going low distances. I'll do my first one mile run, hopefully

Monday. Um, I did just under that this morning and it feels great.

The body's like, Hey, I remember this. Uh, I ran 1111 kilometers in 2018.

I think it was. That's a good distance. I think it was kilometers. I don't think it was miles. I don't remember.

I mean, I did a sub two hour, uh, half marathon once. Um, but I'm not trying to do any of that stuff anymore.

Balance, balance, balance, balance the whole body, um, mixture of all sorts of stuff.

Um, and I'll just make one recommendation. Everybody else is saying boring, go on fine.

I know, but I've had a number of people over the years contact me and say, man, you know, the fact that you can do that while you're traveling and old, ugly, um, actually has encouraged a number of people

I've had. I know, I know one fellow got on the concept to rower because of me and I've seen him do some really good numbers since then.

Uh, I'm getting my rower put back together again. Um, because I'm, I want to get to the 7 million meter club and, uh,

I'm at 6 .2 million. So yeah, uh, the rower is a great back and ab workout and it's a whole body workout.

So I've got the parts coming to get it back in shape. I have a skier. These are concept too.

If you've been to a gym after the, what was that fit? Uh, CrossFit stuff.

Remember how big CrossFit everybody, Oh, CrossFit, CrossFit. You saw a concept to rowers, you know, the, the, the, the rowing machines.

They're ubiquitous everywhere. I've had one for a long time. I had literally thought

I had thrown mine out, but it was still waiting to be collected in my backyard. And I'm like,

I wonder if I could fix it. I looked at it. It was still in great shape. So yeah. Um, but yeah,

I've done concept to rowing forever. They also have what's called a skier where you're, you're doing the ski motion.

Uh, another big, you want to see some of the fittest people on the planet. Look at those Alpine skiers, the ones that do the cross country stuff, unbelievable fitness.

Um, and then it just came out with something called a strength erg, which is the most brilliant piece of equipment

I've ever seen. It takes up almost no space. I have almost no space. All I've got is a covered porch. That's all

I've, that's all I've got back there with evaporative coolers blowing at me. Um, this thing you can do seated rows, seated chest press and seated leg press in a tiny little spot.

I mean, it just doesn't take up any room, but man, can it give you an incredible workout? I'm really enjoying that.

Uh, that, and the leg extension and leg curl machine, um, Iraq with, you know, some, some dumbbells and stuff like that back to doing the lifting stuff.

So yeah, throw rowing and running back in there pretty soon. And now the running part, um, the cycling numbers are going because it's just, there's only so many hours in a day, you know?

Um, but I'm still keeping that in there. Obviously that's, that's important stuff too. So yeah, if you've got the health, push it, you know, do it.

Um, when you don't have it anymore, uh, that's the

Lord's providence in your life. And I could blow a knee out. I could get hit by a truck while I'm out running.

I mean, I literally, when I was running this morning, there's this guy and it's a neighborhood.

So it's 25 miles an hour. I was on Camino Esequia, um, out there. And evidently this one guy wasn't going fast enough.

And so here I see this guy come whipping around this other guy and there's, there's big old speed bumps.

He just almost goes airborne over it, just pass. And I'm just sort of doing this at him, uh, as he's going by.

And then the guy who got passed started laughing. I'm sitting there going like this and he's like waving at me like,

Oh no, I saw him coming. I went, the driver starts laughing. Like, yeah, no kidding.

Yeah. So yeah. So I imagine it'll help me get the last maybe 10 off.

Um, because it's going to get hot pretty soon. Right now, it's pretty nice in the mornings, but once you get into like July and Phoenix, you know, you go out before sunrise to run and it'll be, you know, 92 degrees.

I mean, we set a new high. It was the last year of the year before last, um, record high low 97, 96 had been the record.

That was the low in the morning before sunrise. It used to be 96. I was riding that morning. I remember it now it's 97, 97 degrees.

It'll be a hundred eventually. I mean, the urban heat Island effect it's real.

And, uh, so yeah. Uh, so anyways, uh, encouragement,

I'm in my mid sixties. How long will I be able to do this? I don't know. I don't know, but I remember when

I, I, I will never forget, uh, riding Altura to Phoenix, climbing usury pass

Hill many, many years ago. And I looked over at this guy that I was passing him, but that means he had been ahead of me.

Most of the race had to be 75, uh, climb that Hill. And I just remember thinking to myself,

I would love to be able to have that kind of desire to keep doing that.

Um, I'm not doing those long races anymore, but there's other reasons for that. Um, but yeah, um, if the

Lord gives you the strength, there are a few things more enjoyable than, uh, being out there.

I used to listen to so many podcasts and stuff while I was running. Um, it was, it was great.

So anyway, all right. Jumping into important stuff now. Um, Denny Burke posted this a while back.

This was a, the Pope's need that, well, you know, actually Popes and presidents all need to realize that offhand comments on airplanes, not a real good idea.

They, they very often boomerang. Um, we have a DEI Pope.

Okay. There, there is a DEI Pope. And this guy has two left wings, just like Francis did.

You cannot convince me that this, the fix was, the fix was in on this two years before Francis died.

I mean, Francis had that real big health scare. I think when that happened, they made the decision.

You're going to be the next Pope. And these are the things you're going to do.

And this is the path you're going to take. And these are the programs you're going to put in place. I, you cannot convince me that that's not the case.

Uh, he's following the same path. He's doing the same things. Um, and you go back and read this stuff that he wrote on social media as a

Cardinal. Um, if he was an airplane, he'd have two left wings.

He is a socialist, liberation theologian, DEI all the way.

And now he's the Pope of Rome. And so he was asked a question.

Someone actually sent me the question. It actually made it worse. Uh, cause it was, as I recall, it was talking about how there could be unity amongst

Christians or something. Um, I'm not going to play the video. I'm going to play the video here. I'm just going to have

Rich play the sound. It's short, very short, less than a minute, I think. But I want you to hear what the

Pope says about basis of unity. And it had to do with homosexuality.

The question had something to do with homosexuality. As I recall, I remember fiduciary supplicants, the big, huge kerfuffle that came out about that what three and a half years ago, it was

December. I remember it was December. So it was probably three and a half years ago now, something like that. Um, and the slow opening of the door, this conciliarism stuff, getting women involved, um,

Francis's friendship with Father James Martin, the biggest promoter of homosexuality within Roman Catholicism.

I mean, if Roman Catholicism cannot get rid of him, cannot defrock him, cannot kick him out, Roman Catholicism cannot protect itself any longer.

I mean, that's same in any church. Any church that cannot rid itself of heretics, of people who fundamentally disagree with the foundational teachings of that organization, is doomed.

There's nothing left to be said. Um, you know,

Roman Catholicism can get rid of people who like the Latin Mass, but they can't get rid of people like Father James Martin?

I mean, every single Catholic out there that watches this program, and I know you're there, I hear you talking about it after the program's over, um, you know

I'm right about this, and it bugs most of you because you're conservatives. Liberals wouldn't care about what

I have to say, so they're, they're, they're ignoring me, uh, and appropriately so. But you, you liberals, or you conservatives, you know what

I'm saying is true. You know the only people who get disciplined are the conservatives, not, not the wild -eyed leftists.

So what does that tell you about the people that are in charge? What does it tell you about who, who controls the magisterium today?

And you, you're gonna sit there and tell me that there's some apostolic tradition guiding all of this?

Come on! Wake up! It's, it's absurd to say these things. Anyway, so here's, um, here's what he had to say.

First of all, I think it's very important to understand that the unity or division of the church should not revolve around sexual matters.

We tend to think that when the church is talking about morality, that the only issue of morality is sexual.

And in reality, I believe there are much greater, more important issues, such as justice, equality, freedom of men and women, freedom of religion, that would all take priority before that.

Okay, now I wish the clip was longer, but that's all I've got. Um, the, the fuller context is available.

Uh, that sounds like a social justice word to me. Um, how do you define justice?

How do you define freedom? Um, I would argue outside of God's law, you, you end up with statism or something like that.

But more than that, he said religious freedom. Now, does

God's law address, you know, hey, we've got, we've got Protestants, remember J .D. Greer?

The Bible whispers about sexual sin, remember? So, you know, there are compromised, massively compromised people on all sides.

That's, that's not the issue. But this is someone who wants, um, unity with people promoting homosexuality.

There's no question about that. This is the new Roman Catholic Church. And if you're one of those conservatives who pretends that there is something called apostolic tradition, and that it actually has meaning, that actually has something to do with the apostles, um, you gotta realize most people in the magisterium, all the apostles left us was the system.

They run it now, so they get to believe what they believe. It's not like there was something passed down from some actual content of teaching, body of tradition.

Come on, wake up. That's, that's absurd. Um, but the thing

I pointed out was I quoted from the

Papal Syllabus of Errors, which I think was 1864. I didn't bring it up. I've got other stuff queued up here.

So, I think it was 1864. Uh, was it Pius IX? Might have been.

Just off the top of my head. Anyway, look up the Papal Syllabus of Errors. There's a, there's a specific website called, uh, papalencyclicals .com

or something like that. Or you can look all this stuff up. And it's hilarious.

I, I posted it. Well, you know, it wasn't necessarily infallible. Uh, pope -splaining is just, um, it's a great sport, uh, for these folks.

Um, I mean, anybody in 1864, and this is only six years before Vatican I, this is only six years before infallibility is even defined.

Do you really think that the people, because they're the same people who are going to define papal infallibility in only six years, you really think that when the pope puts out an entire list of errors, these are beliefs that are opposed to the

Roman Catholic faith, you really think that they're going, but it's, it's just our personal opinion right now.

This might change in 150 years, 160 years, 162 years.

Um, it, you know, today's today. Que sera, sera. No, this was the

Magistrate of the Roman Catholic Church saying, here are the, here are the borders of our faith. These things are errors.

And you know what one of those errors is? Religious freedom. Yeah, specifically, religious freedom.

The idea that a Catholic country should allow other expressions within its borders. Specifically cited as an error, religious freedom, as an error.

Read it for yourself. And so, well, you know, the pope's on an airplane, that's not infallible.

You don't have anything that's infallible! Just admit it! He could stand up there and say,

I proclaim and define and announce. And 50 years from now, you're going to have people saying, well, but, you know, there was a context.

It doesn't, you know, you got to look at the overarching thing. There's always a way out.

You haven't a clue. If what the pope is saying today is going to be true 20 years from now, you don't know it.

You think you do, but you don't know. So, um, but yeah, we are, he may be the first American pope, but he is a

DEI hire. That's just, that's just all there is to it. You look, that's what, that's the look you give me when either something's going wrong with the stream, or you're reading something in the chat channel.

None of that is true, huh? Okay. All right. All right. Okay. Next thing.

I got to get to these things here. Now, this is stuff from X.

There's a guy named Godfrey's Blade. Not very many followers.

Could be a, could be a bot. That's a, that's a 178 followers. About 150 to 250.

That range very often are bots, but I don't think so. Godfrey's Blade, uh, commented on something

I said to Dale Partridge, and I'm going to be looking at something Dale Partridge said here in a second. And he said, most of us learned our exegesis from you,

Dr. White. Okay. Let's see if you were a good learner.

We just went on to apply it to all of life. And we learned about the history of Christendom, and discovered we relied to for generations about our forefathers who fought and bled and sacrificed to preserve their lands and people from pagan hordes.

So, in other words, you know, Vlad the Impaler was actually a great guy, and the crusades were wonderful, and we're

Christian nationalists now, and that's why I call myself Godfrey's Blade, and I'm actually going out on the weekends now and doing sword fights with other people, and cosplaying, and all the rest of that kind of stuff.

And we realized, perhaps too late, that we are being overrun on purpose. We are.

It has nothing to do with exegesis. Nothing. We are being overrun on purpose, because our nation is filled with traitors.

Because we have people who are guilty of treason, who are running the government.

That's why. Because this form of government, the

Constitution, is only for immoral religious people. It's insufficient for the governance of any other. That's what was said by one of the founders, and they were right.

And so, once we traded our birthright for secularism, not once we abandoned

Christendom 1 .0, but once we abandoned a

Christian worldview for a secular worldview, well, now we're filled with traitors, who've opened the borders and invited an entire invading army in, and now we're doing everything they can to keep the invading army in place.

They stole elections. Very plain. I mean, this has now been documented so clearly, it's not even funny.

I mean, did you see, by the way, what was the CDC? No, FDA. The FDA statement today?

It was just released, where they admit that the COVID vaccines killed more children than they ever helped.

Will there be any justice for that? In eternity, yes. In this life, can't happen.

We don't have a functional justice system anymore. For the same reason, our justice system depends on a

Christian worldview. Once you abandon that for secularism, the state becomes

God, and our state's divided, so nothing will ever happen.

And people are going, hey, people are finally being held accountable. No, they're not, and they won't be. One election.

One election. Every one of these charges will be dropped. Disappear.

Never be heard of again. One election. That's all it takes. There's no justice system anymore.

And the people who aren't in charge right now, the instant they come back in power, kiss the

Constitution goodbye. The Supreme Court will be packed, which means, that means, see, the

Constitution is the one tiny, thin thing that's still holding the flood back, but it's straining really badly.

One election, you pack the court, the Constitution's done. It just becomes a, it's no longer relevant.

I mean, look, look at Justice Brown, Katanji Brown. There's a

DEI hire of massive proportions, okay? Now, fill that entire court with her, and the court becomes a total kangaroo court.

The woman is not qualified to be a justice of the peace, let alone a Supreme Court justice, but she was put there for one reason.

And once those folks are back in charge, forget about your liberties, forget about law, forget about any of that stuff.

It's done. It's over with. So people are like, yeah, so we've got to be

Christless nationalists. No. That's going to accomplish absolutely, positively nothing.

I mean, what are these guys doing? What's this new Christian right? Have you seen, oh, someone, I'm going to continue with this.

Hold on. Hey, we started earlier today, so I can go 10 minutes late. Who cares?

Well, no. Someone said to me, they posted this video of Webin and his two cohorts.

Did you see this? Where one guy's got a cigarette and he's blowing smoke, and the other guy's got a glass of wine, you know?

And I'm sitting there going, okay, you made that with AI to sort of mock how cringey these guys have become.

He's like, no, go look at NXR. Go look at their website.

And it's there. These images, they made this stuff themselves. And you look at the store, the types of shirts and stuff you can buy, the sayings on them.

I mean, NXR has become such a massive caricature.

And who is NXR now? Well, it's Webin and it's Partridge and it's

Robertson. So you've got two supposedly,

I mean, extremely wishy -washy, supposedly Reformed folks playing footsie with a straight -up

Romanist. Okay, he's not a part, he's not subject to the Bishop of Rome specifically. But when it comes to Marian theology and soteriology and bibliology, homartiology, whatever, he's a

Romanist. And what does that tell you? The gospel is not central to these people.

Oh, and JD Hall. Okay, there you go. I mean, boy, can we say a lot about how that, yeah, yeah,

Rich is going, don't you dare. But everybody knows. Everybody knows.

You've just got to be kidding me. So yeah, just go look for yourself.

Buy yourself a bobblehead doll or something like that. But wow, the t -shirts and the books.

I mean, they're cranking books out. I'm sitting here going, you know, I wrote books that actually, there are people who are using books

I wrote a quarter century ago and they're still relevant. These are books that were not relevant when they were published and will not be relevant any longer, you know, six months from now.

Because they're about fakes. Fake religious movements that don't exist and, you know, just click, click, click.

Put your finger up in the air. Ah, it's the Jews. You know, and you just go do your thing.

Anyway, embarrassing. Cringe, cringe, cringe. Anyway, so, and we realize, perhaps too late, that we are being overrun on purpose.

We are. And that our children, your grandchildren, will not have a future in this land unless drastic but not unreasonable changes are made.

No question about it. But those drastic changes require a change of the heart, which requires use the gospel, and you've abandoned that.

You've decided that politics is the way to do that, and it's not going to work that way. Who is text messaging me?

I don't know who's text messaging me.

But, oh, it's a request about the

COVID thing. I could actually track that down because I sent it to a friend this morning.

It's in Signal someplace. So, uh, which I don't have up right now.

Um, I can probably track that down. It was in, it was in X.

Um, so I can probably track that down. Uh, it's worth noting from a common -sense military standpoint, this is where it got interesting, that you cannot launch offensive parenthesis gospel parenthesis operations without first establishing a base parenthesis nation parenthesis close.

Do you hear that? I'd ask, I'd ask this fellow,

I'd ask Godfried's blade, did you think about what you said before you hit send? Is that what the apostles did?

Did the apostles establish Christian nations first before doing the gospel work?

Which Christian nation was that? Can you, can you, here, here, um, could, could you, could you show me the

Christian nation, the apostles? Oh, you mean they were in the pagan Roman? You mean the early church was persecuted for 300 years and they never established a

Christian nation? They just proclaimed and lived the gospel and died as martyrs?

That's silly. They should have led crusades and had armies.

You weren't listening real well, were you Godfried's blade? No, you've been deceived. You've seen some truthful things.

Is the United States coming apart at the seams? Sure is. Well, we got to do something.

And you've been deceived into thinking, and what we got to do is abandon the gospel. Yeah. It takes too long.

Got to do right now. Yeah. If your nation has dropped the requirement to assimilate to the predominant

Protestant culture and religion in order to take part in political matters, then you're committing national suicide as you hand the reigns over the demon worshipers in the name of a pluralistic freedom of religion.

That sounds wonderful. That sounds great. You don't seem to realize that it's that same sacral mindset that led to the persecution of your forefathers, that led to the founding of this nation because they were driven out and had to come over here to find religious freedom.

You're just going to do it all over again, huh? Good thinking. Smart. Real smart.

Good. Yeah. Okay. You thus fail to love your closest neighbors, your family and literal neighbors.

And what hope do you have then of fulfilling the Great Commission when you can't be bothered to love those closest to you? This is the new

Christless nationalism, sacralist mantra. I'm just loving those closest to me, unless they're

Jews or unless they're black. Right? Let's just be honest.

There's a lot of white stuff going on here. This seems to be really popular amongst white folks.

You know how I know that? Because right above Godfrey's blade is what I was responding to from Dale Partridge.

Oh, and what did Dale Partridge say? This is April 10th. America has five core enemies.

One, Zionism. Two, liberal women. Three, Islam. Four, Hinduism.

Five, violent blacks. He posted it, not me.

Okay. Here are the solutions. All right. Here we go.

Here are the solutions. One, eliminate dispensationalism. Two, repeal the 19th.

I'll talk about it. Three, mass deport Muslims and outlaw Islam.

Four, mass deport H1Bs and outlaw Hinduism. And five, publicly hang murderers.

Now, if the solutions can map up to the problems, you realize that evidently from his perspective,

Zionism, whatever in the world that is, is dispensationalism.

Okay. Always recognize truth even when it's in the midst of wild -eyed error.

Is there some pretty wacky stuff out there in dispensationalism about Israel?

Yeah, I was raised with it. I was raised with it. I was raised with the kind of dispensationalism where Israel was

God's chosen people. And I remember in college when I abandoned the dispensational hermeneutic, realizing its inherent inconsistency, that that had an impact on how

I should view the nation -state of Israel. I mean, I've told the story before. I've told,

I mean, Algo could probably tell me exactly how many times I've told the story, but I've told the story before where in junior or senior year in a lock -in at North Phoenix Baptist Church, and I still have this

New Testament. In fact, it's in the other room. In fact, I'm pretty sure I know where it is in the other room.

During a lock -in, which is where you stay the night, you know, a youth lock -in type thing, we're sitting around, the lights are out, the only lights in the room are the exit signs above the doors, and I'm sitting here with this little

New Testament, and I'm explaining, because I was the geek, you know, I was the smart guy, knew the

Bible, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm literally holding this New Testament up to my wrist, and I'm using this digital watch, this geeky digital watch, which

I wish I still had, that had a tritium -lighted watch face, digital watch face, which is radioactive, by the way.

I'm not going to kill you, but it's radioactive, and which is why you can't buy them today. But you can buy those little tritium lights.

Those are really cool. But anyway, I'm using that to illuminate the page to read from Matthew chapter 24 about the fig tree.

The fig tree, for those who know that. A little background there.

And I'm explaining how the fig tree was the establishment of the nation of Israel in 1948, and a generation is 40 years, and so 40 years and 48 is 1988.

This is like 1980. So we're talking, basically, guys, we've got eight years to find our girl and get married before the rapture happens, you know?

I mean, this is what we're thinking. So that was my background, all right?

So I get that the former Huckabee, you know, is doing weird things over in Israel, and bringing pastors over, and wearing prayer shawls, and okay,

I agree. Total wackoism. Total wackoism. So you're going to eliminate dispensationalism.

How? By force of law, you're going to give a government the authority to eliminate a particular

Christian understanding of eschatology? Really?

You do realize when you give the government that power, it will be used against you?

You do? No, they don't realize that? Oh, that makes them really stupid. What's more likely?

That you're going to use government authority to get rid of dispensationalism, or the government's going to use the authority that you think people should have to eliminate religious viewpoints to get rid of you?

Could anything be more obvious? Well, but things are going to have to change.

How? The only way it's going to change is change hearts, and that's the gospel.

And you're sitting there with a Romanist on your set at NXR, and you can't even tell them what the gospel is anymore, can you?

Oh, I proclaim the gospel all the time. Okay, wonderful. Liberal women repeal the 19th.

Yeah, I think the 19th should be repealed. I'll be honest. I do. Voting today is not what voting was designed when the

Constitution was written. Voting was based on land ownership. It was the people who had a vested interest in the betterment of the nation were the people who voted for the representatives.

So I would agree. Universal voting, giving the vote to people who can then use the vote to steal other people's money to give to them, that's what

California is. That's what New York is. That's what Massachusetts is. And it's unsustainable.

You see that debt clock? You see that trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion?

What's after trillion? How'd that happen? Aside from the corruption.

Aside from the fact it's all ended up in Somalia. I think that happened by voting people in who will sell their votes to keep their power and give people who don't work the money of people who do work.

And can that be stopped as long as leftist women who aren't even married have absolutely no intention of worrying about the future of this country are allowed to vote?

Yeah, I agree. And I know lots of Christian women who agree that their vote should be expressed familially, within a family, not individually, but as a family.

That would change everything. Can you imagine what the electoral map would look like if only families could vote?

It would be bright red everywhere. There might be one little blue dot someplace. But other than that, it'd be bright red everywhere.

And they know that. They know that. Families think ahead.

Leftists don't. That's all there is to it. Mass deport

Muslims and outlaw Islam. Mass deport H1Bs and outlaw Hinduism. Again, you give the government the authority to become the detector of orthodoxy without the necessary change.

The change I've talked about in this program. I've walked through Isaiah. I've talked about the coastlands seeking after God's Torah.

I've gone through all this. These guys reject that. They once didn't.

But then it became popular to reject it. They wanted, they shifted their perspective.

They shifted their theology for clicks, for association.

You give that authority. Now, in a Christian nation where 75 % of the people are

Christian and God's law is put in place, in that type of situation, do you say, this is what this nation is going to be about?

And if you are going to oppose that, then you need to do so someplace else?

Fine. Is that where we are? We are a tiny minority. We are a tiny minority.

No, we're not. No, come on, wake up. Only a few years ago, you all agreed that truly regenerate

Christians were a tiny minority in this culture. The vast majority of the formal

Christian religion was just nominalism. Now, nominalism is your friend.

You changed. We didn't. Finally, violent blacks publicly hang murderers.

I wonder why I didn't say publicly hang black murderers, because that would be the connection. Now, is there a problem in the black community?

Like, duh. What ethnic minority commits the most crime in the

United States, per capita, by every metric? The black community. Why?

Because there's no community that has been more attacked by the leftist government of the

United States than the black community. I think Thomas Sowell should be given the

Presidential Medal of Freedom. I really do. Read what he says.

He happens to be black, okay? And he tells you, he gives you the history of the strength of the black family, the zealous commitment of black men to their families that used to exist until the welfare state destroyed the black family.

The greatest enemy of black culture are white liberals who hate blacks.

Use them, but hate them. And the amazing thing to me is when black men will explain to other blacks, we're being used.

We've been used and abused for a hundred years now, and the blacks just keep voting the people in that abuse them.

It's amazing. But do you have reason to be afraid of a young black man in the

United States? Uh, yeah. All the facts say so. All the facts say so.

I just saw a graph from this guy. He's an interesting guy. He's a climate guy, so he's always posting stuff about the climate scam and all the rest of this stuff.

But he's not particularly right -wing. He's pretty much middle of the road, so he posts stuff on both sides.

He'll take shots at Trump and everything else, which is not difficult to do. And he posted this thing.

What was it? I think it was Chicago that 3 % of the violent crime in that time period, 3 % was committed by whites and 93 % by blacks.

That's just a fact. Why? Because the culture has been encouraged to stay together under victimization, but then that culture has had the family ripped out of it.

So, the vast majority of those young men do not have a father. In fact, the vast majority of them don't even have a mother. They have no family structure.

And so, all of that masculine energy just explodes outward in violence against,

I mean, anywhere in the United States. What is the greatest danger to a young black man?

Another young black man. That is not a question that cannot be disputed, that cannot be argued.

All we do is sit around and not answer the question why that is. And the one answer to that question that cannot be given is the

Christian answer. It's sin. It's the destruction of the family. It's destruction of that family order.

That's what it is. Always has been. Same thing with abortion amongst blacks. Everything else is the destruction of the family.

So, hanging. Should we publicly hang murders? Yes. Yes. Capital punishment.

A nation that cannot bring capital punishment against capital crimes is a nation that is destroying itself.

It has lost the will to exist. Capital punishment is biblical.

Even Rome used to agree with that. But what's one of the greatest enemies to that today? Rome. Roman Catholic judges,

Roman Catholic social... You've got to admit, sorry, Mr. Romanist, your church has taken the lead in this, and you know it.

And your past pope changed what Rome has taught about this all along.

And you cannot escape that. It's the simple reality. Simple reality. So, the guy that killed the poor

Ukrainian girl on the train. Trial.

Review. Execution. Publicly. Not with nice kind little drugs and stuff like that.

Hang him. Well, he's crazy. He is a violent criminal.

The society will not survive having these people amongst us. And it is not right.

And it is not just. It is not biblical to make my grandchildren pay for his sex change operation.

And that's exactly what the left wants. It's exactly what the left wants. That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing.

That's what they're doing in California. Illegal immigrants getting free sex change operations in California.

Can a society survive that? No. Why is our society falling apart?

Pretty obvious. Pretty obvious. By the way, here it is.

Okay, I'll just, what I'll do is I'll repost this. This is Senator Ron Johnson.

This is a profound revelation. The U .S. FDA now admits COVID -19 vaccines killed American children. Healthy kids, virtually zero risk from COVID, were forced by Biden mandates into lethal shots.

Leaked FDA memo on child deaths. Regulators confess their actions, quote, we have harmed more children than we saved, end quote.

They knew the risks. They hid the signals. They mandated the deaths anyways. Mass murder by mandate. Where is the justice?

Well, my perspective is, there will not be justice in this life.

And this is something that Thomas Souls talked about. The difference between cosmic justice, cosmic in the final analysis, and temporal.

And we used to understand the difference. Now, since there is no cosmic justice, secular worldview, we can't have the difference.

And so, we have to try to do justice in this life now, which can never be done. That's why

God's law protected the innocent, but secular law punishes the innocent.

So as to avoid a guilty person getting away with it. God's law allows the guilty person to get away with it in this life, if it cannot be proved properly.

Because it's just this life. There is a greater judgment to come. See? Thomas Souls is not a

Christian as far as I know, but he gets the idea. I mean, he's functioning on a Christian worldview, even though I don't think he is a

Christian. So I'm going to repost this. I'm just going to pop it into my feed right there.

And so, there it is, if anybody wants to grab it. All right, one last thing.

You know what? I've bookmarked it. I've said that I was going to deal with Pope Respecter and what he said.

I will. I got going too hot and heavy there for a while. It's in my stuff here.

It's not going to go away. I'll get to it next time around. I wanted to get to this. Wanted to get to more of this than I'm going to get to.

But I will get to this one. This one question. My assumption is,

I don't know this. I was only on with Allie Beth Stuckey once.

I don't think that program ever was brought out from behind a paywall. I don't even know that exists anymore.

We didn't really hit it off real well. I don't know why. Nothing's been said to me, so I was like, whatever.

So I don't know when Jacob Hansen was on with her. I don't know if this was before or after our debate.

That would be interesting to me to know. But the topic is, are

Mormons Christians? The first comment I would make is, have a

Mormon on to have that conversation. I know Jacob Hansen's being put out there in that way, but everybody, including

Mormons, have to admit, we had Mormons in our chat channel when

I was responding to some of the stuff, when I was responding to the infinite regression stuff after the debate.

Now, I don't watch the YouTube chat. It would be way too distracting, so I don't watch it.

But Rich will tell me stuff after the program. Hey, we had such -and -such a person in there, stuff like that.

And we had Mormons in the chat channel while I was discussing this, and they recognized what

I'm saying is true as to what the LDS doctrine of God is. I mean, one of them that was in there, he and I have gone around about this stuff for 40 years.

Well, 35. Anyway, and a lot of them are saying, yeah,

Hansen, he is not an Orthodox Mormon. He's promoting the views of various popular

BYU profs and philosophers that are not general authorities, but they're having a huge impact.

They really are having a huge impact. And given that Mormonism doesn't have, this is not what the

Mormons are saying, but given that Mormonism doesn't have an actual ontological foundation to stand on.

Because you have continuing revelation, but then you don't, you know, the stuff that Hansen is basically saying is, you know, this is going to, that's reflecting badly back there, isn't it?

Let's try that. That's better. Took the, he hadn't pointed out that right over my shoulder,

I had this white glaring thing because it was reflecting from that up there. Yeah, I just,

I happened to look up there and go, and then realized what it was. It's just a matter of changing the angle on the thing that, anyway, it's back there.

Mormonism, they're basically saying Mormonism is what the current prophet says it is.

That means you can have no objective, unchanging standard, because the current prophet can just interpret things differently.

Look at Rome. Look at the Pope. It's not surprising that Jacob Hansen really likes

Trent Horne, and likes the Roman Catholic system of things. And even with Joe Heschmeier, was talking about Petrine privileges and stuff like that.

That is not a historic Mormon perspective at all. But hey, why not?

So there's no objective means for Mormonism to keep itself self -defined.

It can morph into whatever, or explode into a thousand parts, whatever. So I think it would have been more useful if Allie Beth Stuckey had maybe done some inquiry as to who would accurately represent

Mormonism. You know, maybe she was told, hey, this guy's really good at doing public appearances.

He's a good speaker, and he is. He seems to be really nice. He does seem to be really nice.

You know, I don't know. Now, Allie Beth did good for a layperson's knowledge of Mormonism, but she does not know

Mormonism very well at all. And it was really embarrassing when Jacob Hansen throws out

Michael Heiser's name, and she hasn't a clue who Michael Heiser is. So she had no way of responding to his citation of a certain realm of Christian scholarship that she's never even heard of before.

So I would say it was probably a little unwise to just go in there with guns blazing, not realizing what you're going to be coming up against.

That's why I want to look at it, not to try to undo the damage, but what he is presenting is the standard

Neo -Mormonism. This is what BYU is now saying. We used to say this is what

Salt Lake City is saying. Now it's what is BYU saying. And just remember,

I've talked about this many times, under Hinckley, there was this push,

President Gordon B. Hinckley, there was this push to send

BYU grads out to the top end schools, get their

PhDs at Yale and Harvard and all around the world, bring them back to raise the employment record of Mormonism.

We've got that. Look at our people. We've got all these people with great degrees, and it's not just BYU anymore and blah blah blah.

What they maybe didn't know or maybe did know, I don't know, but the practical effect of that has been to inject into the bloodstream of the future leadership of the

Mormon church critical theory. And Mormonism can't survive that.

Mormonism cannot survive critical theory. The Book of Mormon cannot survive it. The history of Joseph Smith cannot survive it.

The theology of Mormonism cannot survive it. And so when you see these Mormon philosophers and people, and they're fundamentally denying what

Mormonism has taught, they recognize, because we can't keep believing that, it doesn't make any sense.

That's why you can literally have people saying, oh, Brigham Young was a disaster for this theology, a disaster for the church.

And you go, uh, do you still believe in the priesthood? Do you still believe in a re -established church?

You're gonna, you must be having to really redefine this stuff, big time. And they are.

Once they can start redefining who God is, they can redefine everything else. They can redefine the priesthood. They can redefine what the, uh, the temple endowments are supposed to mean.

They can redefine all of it. Because there's no objective core that will stay the same over time.

So Mormonism is doomed. It will pass away. It will collapse on its own over time.

But till then, you've still got almost 20 million people, uh, that need to know the gospel, basically.

And need to know that they've been given a false gospel and a false God. So, it would have been helpful to either have somebody on that does know

Mormonism, and knows who Michael Heiser is, and can, who was responding to their use of Heiser decades ago, and can talk about Heiser's theories and go, problem is, if you allow the

Bible to speak for itself, actually the polemics in Isaiah and Jeremiah are pan -canonical and total in their claims.

Not just, oh, Yahweh is a better God than these other gods. But these other gods do exist, but Yahweh's bigger.

Yahweh's better. Remember, that's what, that's what Quakoo pulled when we did that stuff.

And where's, he's just parroting what he's getting from BYU, and so is Jacob Hanson. He's parroting the same stuff.

Um, and if you know what Isaiah said, if you can go into the text of Isaiah 41 and talk about time and everything else, then you can demonstrate these things.

And these guys can't. Jacob Hanson cannot do that. He would not debate me on that. He can't go into the text. Did you notice in our debate, he never tried to dispute anything

I said from the original languages. He can't touch it. And most of the people at BYU can't either. Oh, they may know the languages, but they also know that Joseph Smith didn't know the languages.

Can you imagine what that's like, to be a BYU professor and read the King Follett funeral discourse, and read the childish, simplistic things that Smith does trying to, oh, the

Germans will tell you that what I'm saying is correct, and you've just got to sit there going, this is the founder of my religion?

Yikes! Um, you really have to wonder why, well, we're seeing what's going on now.

That's why so many of those people at BYU are not affirming the stuff that Joseph Smith taught.

They recognize it's not a good thing. All right, anyways, there was one specific thing I needed to get to, and then we'll call it good for today.

But he mentioned me. That's why it would be interesting to me to know whether this was recorded before or after the debate.

Why is this thing leaking on me? I may have to send this one back. I'm not supposed to do that.

I do not need to have stuff leaking on me. That's why it'd be interesting for me to know when this was recorded.

Maybe somebody out there knows. I don't know. But here is the one time that I know of, anyways, that I got mentioned, and I really felt it was exceptionally dishonest for Jacob Hansen to do this, because he knows better.

So let's, you got it ready? Let's, oh, wait a minute. There we go.

That looks better, doesn't it? You got the audio ready? All right, here we go.

How do y 'all interpret John 1, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was

God? He was in the beginning with God. So that's a lot of, like, prepositions there.

But yeah, like, the Word was God, and obviously we go on in the rest of John 1, we're introduced to Jesus at the beginning of John's Gospel.

So how do y 'all interpret that, the Word was God? So I would probably actually agree with Dr.

James White, who I just recently had a debate with. Oh, okay. He had a discussion with Dale Tuggy, or a debate, and he said, in John 1 you have, and the

Word was God. What is being said is that the Word as to his, is as to his nature, deity.

The Logos, or Jesus, has eternally been deity. So if we break down the verse, it's, in the beginning was the

Word, right? Jesus. So in the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God.

And we would say in that instance, God is referring to the Father. So it's, in the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with the

Father, and the Word was God. Now, if, we can't say

Jesus was the Father, because obviously that would be modalism, and Jesus was fully divine.

So the way I would look at John 1 to interpret it is, in the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with the

Father, and Jesus was fully divine. That is the way that I would, and I believe

Latter -day Saints would view that. And we do believe that Jesus was fully divine. Okay. Now, fully divine,

I've had countless conversations with Mormons over the years. Was Jesus married?

Did Jesus ever go through the temple? How is Jesus's divinity related to the eternal law of progression?

That's why these guys have gotten rid of all that. That's why they're abandoning the fundamental

LDS doctrine of God. So, here's the problem, though.

He's, he's quoting from the debate with Dale Tuggy. Now, what is fundamentally accepted by both

Dale Tuggy and I, and therefore would not be an element of argumentation, specifically, in that debate.

Monotheism. Now, Dale Tuggy might say, well, you're a polytheist. But we are both operating on a foundational, interpretational level that there is only one

God. And we're going to argue that point, but we're going to start there. We recognize the

Bible says there is only one true God. You're not starting there with Mormonism. And if Jacob Hansen wants to say that Mormonism actually presents the idea that God the

Father is the ontological foundation of all that exists, then they just have to admit they no longer believe in Joseph Smith, and he should stop calling himself a

Mormon. Joseph Smith said, we have imagined and believed that God has been

God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil so that you may see. That's the founder of Mormonism.

He refuted the idea that God has been God for all eternity. It is fundamental to New Testament interpretation to start with the fact there's only one true

God. And not just for this planet, not just in a relative sense, but that if it exists,

God made it. If it exists, he continues to sustain it. And that, of course, was the foundation of my exegesis in the debate with Dale Tuggy.

That, of course, is the foundation. I don't know why he was quoting from a debate with Dale Tuggy. The Forgotten Trinity said the exact same thing in 1996 when it was published, something like that, maybe 98.

It was a long time ago. Okay, so he went there. But he is not agreeing with me.

He knows he's not agreeing with me. He knows that even his understanding,

I mean, right before this, he had specifically said, I don't even understand, Trinity, how you

I thought having your own being is what made you a person. So he conflates categories of being in person.

He knows I do not. And so he is bringing in a different, a completely different, not well -formed, doesn't seem to have any historical foundation to it, but he's bringing a different hermeneutical framework to my comments and using my words, taking them out of that clearly established, no one can argue, not honestly, that I have not been straightforward in what

I've said on this passage from the start. We have an old, we have an old, what we used to call information sheet.

I think there's still some of them in a box over there. One of the first ones we put out was on John 1 -1.

This would have been 1986, 87 maybe, 40 years ago.

And what I said about John 1 -1 there and what I say about that today hasn't changed. Not hidden.

So no one can argue that I've changed anything on any of that. So my comments are based upon the biblical doctrine of monotheism.

Jacob Hansen rejects that doctrine. What he puts in its place seemingly is still under construction, still being put together.

But I have had conversations with, debates with Mormons for years where they took a completely different view of John 1 -1 and would not have said what he just said.

So this is one of the problems. No one knows what he really believes.

It's a work in progress, but it's not historical Mormonism. And so I think that's why he's getting the support he's getting to go out and do this stuff.

This creates tremendous confusion. Because her audience, even if they've heard sound, solid

Christian responses to Mormonism, is hearing something different from a supposed Mormon without any pushback.

Because she can't push back. She doesn't know Mormonism well enough to do it. That's the problem. Yes, sir? He was saying that what's going through my mind is the rest, part of the rest of the

King Follett funeral discourse, this part, I'm just hearing it screaming in my head as he's saying this.

Many men say there's one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one God, are only one

God. I say that is a strange God anyhow, three in one and one in three. If this is in accordance with the

New Testament, lo and behold, we have three gods anyhow, and they are plural, and who can contradict it?

That isn't anywhere close to what he just said. I know. Not at all. I think that's the sermon in the

Grove. They're often conflated with each other. But, you know, these are the last things that Joseph Smith taught.

And yeah, she didn't have any of those quotes. Again, it would have been good to have had somebody there that could hold his feet to the fire.

That would have been a different program. There's no two ways about it. So, the usefulness of going through this will be to help prepare you to deal with Neo -Mormonism.

The problem is, what's that going to look like 10 years from now? Nobody knows.

He doesn't know. Nobody knows. Um, what will he believe 10 years from now?

I doubt it'll be the same thing. That's problematic. Yes, sir? You know whose name keeps going through my mind every time

I see this guy, and that's Greg Stafford. And the stuff that Greg was doing on the down -low with the blessing of Brooklyn.

Well, he did start his own cult. And then eventually they had enough. Yeah, he did start his own cult.

And as far as I know, that doesn't even exist anymore. He just poof. Yeah, so when we go through it, it's not going to be so much dealing with historical

Mormonism, though it'll be contrasting with historical Mormonism, but this new

Neo -Mormonism. And so if you're dealing with younger Mormons, those are the people they're being influenced by. I talked with two young ladies back at Christmas time, at the

Christmas lights at the temple, and their institute or seminary teacher was this guy's buddy.

The guy, oh, that's right. Oh, I didn't bring it up. I'm not going to talk about it if I can't bring up the ad, but we'll talk about it next time,

I guess. I did want to respond to someone raising money to challenge

Jeff Durbin to debate on Sola Scriptura.

And I want to talk about what that actually means, and how disingenuous it is, and suggest some better topics that would actually represent real

Mormonism and what the real authority issues are. Because the Mormons are drawing from the

Catholics in their attacks on Sola Scriptura. They will never defend their positive claims.

They'll never do it. They're enjoying this hyper -skepticism, but the problem is, their system can't survive the hyper -skepticism itself.

So we'll talk about that one next time maybe, if I remember. Okay, here's the problem.

I have to tell our friend what we covered on the program today? I don't have a clue.

How do you summarize that? I have no earthly idea. There was some

Catholic stuff, and some Mormon stuff, and some political stuff, and some crisis nationalism stuff. And I started preaching, and I talked about running at the start, and exercising.

So yeah, we covered everything. And we covered COVID shots and stuff like that.

So yeah, sounds like I just did an episode of Info Wars or something, without the craziness.

All right, hey, yeah, have yourself a great weekend, and Lord willing, we'll see you next week.