Soul Winning - Part 2 — Roy Daniel

Today, me and, or Ezra took me and Paul to do a little bit of witnessing, about an hour or so, a bit more. We spoke to about a total of 50 people together. Interesting Americans, very interesting. But something even more interesting to me that I found across the world, when I witnessed to Muslims, to Hindus, to Christians, so-called, to Catholics, is that when you speak to one Catholic, he might all smiles listen to you for a long time.

And then you speak to the next Catholic and he'll say, please go away from me about two seconds after you've spoken and said, hello, could I please, oh, sorry, go away. And it's the same with Muslims.

I can sometimes sit down with a Muslim, and I've done this many times, and I can explain to him from the Bible, out of my head, what is the difference between Christianity and Muslims. And I go through the different points of the differences between the two religions, bringing him to the point where I bring my own testimony and show him what the truth is.

And he'll sit there and he'll listen and he'll discuss and he's not angry and about to hit me on the head. And then you speak to another one and guess what? I mean, I suppose it was my fault when I went to a Muslim graveyard and started preaching to them while they were honoring the dead.

But they sometimes, of many of the different religions, one, you speak to them and they're fine for you to speak to them, and then the other one, same religion, and they're angry. And what does that teach us?

A little simple principle. Don't think that all Catholics are angry, that all Muslims are angry, that all of different religions are angry with you, and that if you go and speak to them, they're going to be angry.

In every single religion, there's people, like with Christians, who are born again with differing personalities. And some of them have bitterness. Some of them don't. And some of them are willing to speak to people, and some of them, they won't speak to you, they're so fanatical about their religion.

And so you have to realize, you mustn't put people into cliché groups, where basically you believe that if I ever speak to a Muslim, he's going to kill me. Don't think that, it isn't true. There are different types of Muslims.

Have you ever met a democratic Muslim? They are the easiest Muslims on earth to speak to. But some of the others are also easy to speak to, the different types of Muslims that you have in the world. Hindus too, I love to work with Hindus, but some of them are angry.

Different Reactions Require Individual Discernment

I've got a little illustration before we pray. And that was just by the by concerning us going out witnessing today at a wonderful time. Spoke to one person, they said, go away. Thank you very much. Spoke to the other person, could give my whole testimony, go through the Bible, showing true salvation to this Catholic, amazing.

Spoke to other people, they laughed at me right the way through everything I said. Even my accent. And so you get different reactions from different people. But this is the illustration I'd like to start this particular talk tonight.

And remember last night we had an introduction, tonight we're going to go a bit further. Imagine there was a man, and he was quite rich, and he went as a Christian to live in his own little island, a pleasure resort.

And he was sitting there, and he probably wasn't a Christian if he had a pleasure resort, just to say he was born again. And he was on this pleasure resort, and he had his Bible, and he had all these books about the Celts, and the Catholics, and the nominal Christians, and the normal Christians, and the traditional Christians, and the false evangelical Christians, and he had all these books on his shelf.

And he started reading every single one of them. And as he read these things, he learned every single thing that every single one of them believed. And after he read all these things, he went through the Bible to find answers, so that he could teach them how to get saved, why they're not saved.

And then he sat there for the rest of his life on his pleasure island, with all this knowledge, and then after about 40 years, he died of old age. Would his knowledge, now this is a simple question, a little child can answer this, but would his knowledge that he gathered of how to win souls, how to deal with different types of people, would that have helped him in any way?

And the answer is very obviously, no. Now you might say this illustration is not relevant, because there are not people who are on pleasure islands waiting their whole life alone, with no other people to speak to, who study all these different religions.

You say that doesn't happen. Well, you can have millions of people around you, and you can know the gospel, and know how to bring it, and learn a whole lot of things. And I'd rather have someone who's just saved, and knows at least a little, at least testimony, who's willing to go, than a person with all that knowledge, and is not willing to go.

And with that thought, let us pray. Dear Father, I come before you, and I just thank you for this meeting tonight. And I'd just like to humbly pray, as one of the weakest of our servants, that thou wouldest, in thy mercy, that thy strength be made perfect in weakness, as thy scripture said.

And I ask you to speak to us, and show us, Lord, how we can start to go forth and speak to people about their souls. In Jesus Christ's name, our Lord and Savior. Amen. Now, over the next three days, not three days, sorry.

The Practical, Message, and Spiritual Dimensions of Soul Winning

Over the next three opportunities to preach, tonight, tomorrow morning, twice, I'm going to speak about the practical side of soul winning, number one. The message of the soul winning, in other words, tomorrow morning, how do you answer people from the different lies that they believe.

And the third one is the spiritual side of soul winning, also tomorrow morning. So you've got the practical side of soul winning, the message of soul winning, and the spiritual side of soul winning. Tomorrow morning's message, I believe, is very important.

How do you deal with different people? Some people say, you must just preach Jesus. And they go forth and they say to the Catholic, you know, you can say Jesus five times, and they're not being irreverent, but you need to know the lies that are keeping them back from being saved.

Tonight, we're going to look at the practical side of soul winning. And every single one of these messages, tonight, tomorrow morning, and the next one, tomorrow morning, the second one, is going to include something practical.

So these are kind of intellect, but we're going to start and focus on the practical side of soul winning. I'd like to give another little illustration, if you wish. Another desert island, but this time actually a nice island, sorry, is not a pleasure island.

The Island Believer Must Go to the Lost

In the 1800s, let's say, and there wasn't such a person, but he was on a ship, it's a little story, and he was going through the waves of the ocean for a long time, a few months, and suddenly this big storm came, like in Paul's days, and it was just beating that ship this way, and beating the ship that way, and eventually this ship got smashed on the rocks, and somehow one person, who was not a Christian, got to be on an island.

And a bit of the wood came up, and he had a bit of wood, and he was on this island, and he saw this lovely fruit and everything, and I can, you know, there's some goats and stuff, I don't know where they came from, and I can live here, it's amazing, but I'm on my own until another ship comes.

And sitting on that island, one of the things that he seemed to get from the ship is a Bible, and he gets the Bible, and he starts reading it, and he says, oh, this is a Bible, and I've got nothing else to do, and I can't read, so he starts to read, and over the next few runs, he reads the Bible, and as he reads the Bible, he starts to realize from the scripture, as with John Bunyan's Pilgrim Proverbs, there's a burden comes upon him as he realizes before a holy God, he's a filthy sinner, who when he dies, is going to the flames of God's holy wrath and hell, because he rightfully and justly deserves God's wrath.

And then he reads on, over the next few months, and he comes to the cross of Jesus Christ, how he died. He reads how in John 4, and in Luke, and different places, God talks of a gift. If you knew the gift of God, and who it is he's speaking unto, you would have asked, and he would have given you living water.

And as he reads these things, he says that all I have to do, as he sorrows, and he has this burden over sin, as he's repentant literally of himself, and then he believes it, and he asks, and God gives him salvation.

It's a nice story. I'm sure something similar has happened in history. But now he's sitting on an island, and he's quite far from the mainland. There's a mainland there, and he suddenly realizes, I wish I could tell other people about what has happened in my heart.

I wish I could go to other people and tell them that God has changed me. He's set me free. He's forgiven my sins. He's made me spiritually alive. And he's got a problem. He's on an island, and he looks there on the other side, and he sees on the mainland that there are natives.

And boy, there's a lot of them. He can see them because there's so many of them, but they cannot see him. And he looks, and looks, and looks, and he thinks, oh man, I wish, I can't speak the language probably, but I wish I could go over there and learn the language, and tell them what God has done to me.

And now I ask the question, what should he do? Number one, he could sit down and pray, and say, God, please bring those natives over to me, and perhaps God would answer that. God can do miracles. But I think in the Bible, if we read what the Bible says, it never says pray and wait for souls to come, it says go ye into the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Go and sit are two opposite words. Have you ever noticed that? If my father said, go make your bed, and I said, huh, what would I be doing? Father, please let the covers come over themselves, and my father rightfully would give me a lovely spanking on the place that I sat on.

And he has. But I never prayed. Some people said, God will bring souls to me, and they give testimonies. I know of one person who said, you know, I never go out to speak to souls, I never try to bring souls to me.

And one soul, one day in the middle of this person's life, came past the house, and just happened to speak to this lady, and she just witnessed to this person, and the person came on a conviction and got saved.

And you hear what I call victory cases. Cases that are the exception, but not the rule. And so they say, well that proves that we don't have to go. But they're ignoring the scripture of God. We need to build a raft.

We need to seek for opportunities to go to where people are, so that we can speak for them. We need to pray for doors. That's the scriptural word. Colossians 4 verse 3. Paul says, with all praying also for us, that God, He was in prison.

He wanted an opportunity to speak to people about their souls. He longed for this, in prison, in bonds, in chains. He longed that He could speak to people about their souls. And in Colossians 4, he says, pray, pray, pray, with all praying also for us, that God would open to us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ.

For which I am also in bonds, that I might make it manifest as I ought to speak. And just as that person needs to look around, perhaps pray, God, how can I get over to those people? Look around for the pieces of wood, and make a raft that he could get over.

So we need to pray and look for opportunities to go into the world, and not just sit at home and pray. But there's a problem with doors nowadays. There's a problem with doors. Psalm 10 verse 4 says, God is not in all his thoughts.

There's a similar trend in one verse in Romans. God is not in all his thoughts. Many people, you go out there, they're busy. They're not thinking about God. And they're very busy. I mean, they get up in the morning, they go to work, they come home, they're busy, they're busy, they're busy, they're busy.

They go to the shops, they don't want to speak to different people. And you're coming in, and you're looking for an opportunity to speak to someone, to bring the truth to them, to somehow get the truth to them.

And you come up to them very friendly, and you say, Hello, my name is Roy Daniel. I come from South Africa. And they say, That's a very nice bar. And that is with many people. I mean, I don't know if you've ever done door to door on the street.

Nowadays, it's not very practical in South Africa to do that. I'll come to that later. But in the old days, I used to go door to door when it was more practical. And I remember meeting various people.

And as I met various people, it was amazing how many people, it was like, Who are you? Thank you, bye. And all in my heart, I ever wanted, I mean, I pray an hour in the morning, and all I want to do is to tell him about Jesus, and about his state before God, and find out if he's right with God.

And with my pure intentions, I come to a busy man who's in a busy world, and really doesn't want to speak about anything much to anybody else, except his family and the people that he really knows. And they just ignore you.

God is not in all their thoughts, the Bible says. And another thing that's relevant to today's doors, is that doors are changing. Doors are changing. A simple example of this is John Wesley. Five o 'clock in the morning, what did he do?

It was at five o 'clock. He preached. And he made everything, there were 80 to 90 lay preachers at one time. He wrote to them, he said to them, listen, you have to, five o 'clock in the morning, you have to preach on the streets.

Who would agree to that nowadays? And one person actually went against him because he was very sick, and eventually John said, I forgive you because you are sick, you can get up a little later. Because he had a condition.

John Wesley believed that he lived to a ripe old age because of, among other things, he preached at five o 'clock in the morning. I don't know if he was medically correct. But why? Why did John do that?

Well, practically in those days, there were mines, many mines across England. And one of the things that happened at five o 'clock in the morning is thousands of workers used to get onto the road, not with cars, they didn't have cars in those days, and used to literally walk to the workplace.

And so at five o 'clock in the morning, if you went out to preach, what did you find? Many people walking past. Now I'd like to ask you a little question. If you, on the American map somewhere, found a mine, and you found a town where mine workers work, and you got a main road between that, and you went and stood there at five o 'clock in the morning, and you preached, what would you be preaching to?

Cars. Do cars need to be converted? No. Doors have changed. And yet some people, honestly I've met many people like this, they literally, they say there's not many doors anymore. In John Wesley's time there were doors, but now there's no doors.

No, doors have changed. We don't have the doors of those days, but we do have doors of today. And we need to forget about the doors of John Wesley, where he preached at five o 'clock in the morning, and the things that happened where sometimes 10 ,000 people came together.

Why? I don't mind 10 ,000 people coming together. But often there was a practical reason for that. If you know how suspicious those people were in those days. In those days, by the way, they believed, some people stood up in John Wesley's time and said, listen, I believe God is coming in about two months' time.

This really happened. And guess what? The people became fanatical. They were so suspicious about this that they started stopping work, they started stopping everything. They were just absolutely fanatical.

John Wesley went there, it was in his diary, and he said, listen, he's not coming. Perhaps he is coming according to the scripture, but if I planted a tree, if I knew God was coming tomorrow, I'd plant a tree today.

And you have to realize those days, the people were so fanatical that anything interesting was worth going to listen to. In South Africa we had the same thing. There's areas where we used to preach as a mission.

There was no movies. I'm glad. There was no nothing. No churches hold outreach. When we as a mission came there, we were the movie. Sorry to say it. I've met many people, oh, they said, the reason we went to those camps and then got saved, wonderfully, but the reason we originally went was this was the only thing that was going on.

Nowadays, there are many camps. We go to the same areas. And we tell many people about our camps. And if we don't, obviously we pray and different things, but when it comes down to inviting many people in certain areas, not many people come.

Why? Why? Because we're not the only people who work there. The charismatic, the people who fall over, the many different people, they work there as well. And so the younger generation, three generations down, we don't have it the same way they had it.

We have different doors today. And we've got more doors today in Africa. All the churches were closed at one stage there. You have to realize, number one, doors are not easy. Number two, the doors have changed.

And number three, the doors over here are not the doors over there. Does that make sense? The doors in South Africa, we mustn't long in America to have the doors in South Africa. Neither in South Africa should we long to have the doors in America.

We shouldn't use it as an excuse, saying, oh, they can just go on the street, kick a soccer ball, call the kids together, a thousand kids come or whatever, give them sweets, who will come tonight, 200 come.

Okay, that happens. I've done that. I went in the street. I did that and 200 came that night and it was wonderful. I gave out sweets. I said, there will be sweets there tonight. Deal Moody did the same, so don't judge me.

And 200 kids came. And I don't find that in America. When I hand out sweets, they probably will never come. You're not allowed to speak to strangers. In South Africa, the schools are open. In America, the schools are not open.

Is that true? About a few weeks back, I think I spoke to, with my friend, to about 5 ,000 people in different schools in one week. In America, I haven't spoken in one school, except to talk to them about Africa.

And when I did, I found out that they're very dumb. Honestly. And that's not all Americans. In America, and this is honest, I know four young people go around street preaching and they go to different churches and as they go to the churches, many of these churches, not necessarily charismatic churches, just normal evangelical churches, they go to these churches and the young people in the process says, come preach this Sunday to me.

That's across America. In South Africa, of those people came to South Africa, I met them there, their car got stolen very fast. It happens. And they suddenly found out it's not the same. Among the European community mostly, among the Africans, you can easily go and preach there if you can speak the language or you know how to use an interpreter.

But basically, among the European community, they go around and suddenly they found these churches don't want us to preach. We're young, we're on fire. It's like, thank you, bye. It's a different place.

It has different doors. We have more doors than you. But we have different doors than you. In South Africa, if you want to hand out tracts to every single postbox in a certain place, you pay less than one American cent, I think, per postbox.

You just give it to them, they put it in all the postbox. In South America, me and Israel went to one place and said, couldn't we pay to put stuff in here? It's against the law in America. The United States and South Africa have different doors.

We should never, ever, and some people do this, look at your country and say, look, the doors are closed because we're not like that country. We should look for the doors that do exist. So number one, the doors are changing.

Number two, the doors are different in different places. And Paul recognized this. When he came to a time where there were many Jews, he used to go to where? The synagogue. Why did he go to the synagogue?

It was a place where people gathered together. It was a door, an opportunity to preach the gospel. He could, as a Jew, stand up in many of those places and he could read out of the scriptures. But when he went to Athens, where did he speak?

Did he wait for a synagogue to be built? Did he say, that is the place we go? No, he didn't say, they have their doors and I only want that type of door here. No, he looked for the door that was there to be able to speak to people in that specific place.

And in that specific place, the door was where the Greeks debated and he came together and he preached to them of the unknown God. I'm very glad that when I came to Rhineland I didn't tell to Israel, listen, we have to wait for a synagogue to be built.

Yeah, before I preach. And what am I saying? It's very simple. Different places have different doors. Different times have different doors. And yet people are stuck in that door or that door or that door.

Look for the doors that are in your town. We have to pray for God, to God, for wisdom, to be creative in seeking opportunities, doors, rafts, to get to the mainland, to bring the truth to the deceived souls.

We must be creative but not worldly. We don't have to lower our standard of clothes yet. We don't have to bring in worldly music. I can guarantee you, I've held entire youth camps with very worldly youth and we sang old hymns and they loved the camp because I was there.

No, that is not humility and forgive me. You know in Japan it's much worse than South Africa or America. And yet there are missionaries working there. What do they do? I know our mission, out of our mission came many missions across the world.

One of the largest African missions, the Dorothea mission, the AGE mission, Japan rural mission. In Japan, in various places in the world there are missions that came out of our mission in South Africa.

And I was speaking to the head of one of the missions there and it's interesting and this is probably obvious to you but just think of it. In Japan they don't have the doors we have. Number one, you can't speak in schools.

Number two, what can't you do? If you hold an outreach and invite people there's probably no one ever going to come. Maybe one in ten years. So hold about fifty outreaches like this, invite a whole lot of people and you might get one person.

Well done. That's the Japanese. They're not very interested in meetings. And they were faced as a mission with this thing. They don't have the doors of America. They don't have the doors of South Africa.

What do they do? Oh we give up. We don't have the doors of South Africa and America. No, they look for the doors in that place. And one of the obvious doors was that many people across Japan longed to learn English.

And so, they started to teach English. And what happened? Many people came to learn English. They got whole classes full of people learning English. And while they're learning English by the way, while they got them there we got them there and we want to speak to them.

Hello, I'm going to tell you about Jesus. And they tell the Bible stories and they get them through and they teach them and people get saved. You want to hear the testimonies of people in Japan who have got saved.

It's wonderful. Japanese people don't like to go to church but they go to church on one condition. I want to get married in church. And so, as an evangelical instead of the secular world being a Christian marriage, the missionaries advertised to all the unsaved people, we're willing to do for you and you might disagree with us for a church minister to marry two unsaved people but there's a purpose behind it.

To marry you people with a Christian marriage. Just a ceremony basically. On condition we can preach after it. Oh yes, they do it. And they preach the gospel and people come to these weddings hundreds and hundreds and guess what?

They never go to church but they're in church now and we preach to them. And what are they doing? They're looking for the door of their place. And that's what you have to do in Rhineland and Warsaw. Different places.

You have to find out what are the doors here? We can't do anything because we don't have the doors of South Africa or the doors of that place. America by the way, I mean if you've been in a few other countries, I'm sure some of you have, there are some other countries that have a hundred times less doors than America.

And yet Americans as you go around are one of the not, I mean, are fiery people but often they're just not, you know, it's like people are hard, we shouldn't go hard to speak to them. In their heart, the attitude that comes up.

Finding Doors for Different People and Places

Now I'd like to give you a few things that are different. In South Africa, we have a problem, we have a traditional church. In America, you've got the Catholics, we've got the Enhied church and we've got the Hrefe Miere church and we've got three sisters.

The third one is, they're big. Yeah, now you've got me. I've got myself. The third one is the Hrefe Miere and Hrefo Miere and Niederdeutsch. Okay, those three all speak Afrikaans. Now if I'm walking down the street in South Africa, in the white areas, obviously we've got the black areas too, but let's say we're going to the white areas which is what we're dealing with mostly in America.

You're going down the street, you're talking to, you walk to a door, you knock on the door and the door opens. If there's someone home. And you say to this person, listen we've got a series of meetings here and we'd like to invite you.

That's perhaps how you start. And we enter church and so on. And they say, and that means I've got my church, goodbye. And so that is what you meet everywhere. I've got my church, I don't want to speak to you.

I've got my church, I don't want to speak to you. I've got my church, I don't want to speak to you. And so eventually you're going to say, well it's not worthwhile speaking to people because they've got their church and they don't want to speak to you.

But God can give you creative ideas to overcome the hurdles that are blockade to many people. Let me write this down with a pen. No preacher will do this. Except me. I'd like to give you a few examples.

In Africa there's an old lady, she's, I think she looks like she's 90 but she's about 70. And she's a very lovely lady and she's a missionary. And she's so long for people in this one area, traditional area.

Now if you go to the charismatic, they'll let you in as long as you preach a very low standard. But generally, this areas where traditional Christians are, you don't just get into the churches. You don't get into the doors.

You can knock on the doors and ask people, listen, do you want to speak about Christianity? And they'll say, no. I've got my church. So that's kind of a closed door. And some people say they're lifted to that and they just forget about them.

And they're hard. But at the end of the day is, if you create it, you can get past those hurdles by God's grace if he gives you wisdom. And this lady, she's 70 something years old or something. She decided that she was going to hold a children's function.

And she went to the different schools as we can in South Africa. That's one of our doors that are open. She went to the schools and she told all the children, listen, if you come to my little meetings and the holidays, you can tell your parents, beg them to come and it's going to be really, really, really fun little kiddies.

And she's not a charismatic, by the way. And she invited these kids and a whole lot of these kids, let's say 50 of them, got excited. And these 50 kids got excited. They came in the holidays. They begged their parents, please, please, please parents, can I come?

And they came and she taught them the old hymns but she brought in a male, old man to preach to the kids. She organized it and she cooked and so on. And she did speak to the kids and all that. And basically what happened was she said, on one condition can you come?

You have to tell the parents to pick you up on Sunday but they have to pick you up before the last meeting because you're going to tell them something, you're going to show them something really special.

And that was a very basic thing to do. And on Sunday, all the parents came, about a hundred of them. And guess what? These were the parents who would not allow you to preach in their church, who would not speak to you about the gospel but they'd come for their little kids because their little kids are going to show them something very special before the last meeting.

And their kids told their parents, Daddy, you have to come. And so they came. And this has happened many times. And people who never would step into an evangelical building heard the gospel powerfully preached by one of our preachers, that man.

And of them, radically, got saved. Now you have to ask yourself the question. That is not the way the Bible wants it. The Bible wants you to win the parents and then through the parents the children. But when that doesn't happen, what do you do?

Do you just say, OK, we're not going to get the kids first because that's not the Bible way? Or if the parents don't want it, then you do it the opposite. And God honoured that. So if you're angry with that method, you're angry with God.

I often wonder, how can I get an opportunity to speak to people? I take my chess board with me. I'm not a very good chess board player but in Africa you don't have very good chess board players. So I'm very good in Africa.

In America, I lost to a 10 year old. It was the most humiliating, one of the most humiliating days of my life. They're all worse, much worse. But as far as chess goes, that was it. I played this little American and he got so bad later, he started literally helping me by playing bad later and he still won.

But in Africa, I can basically choose how long I play by just also playing with people. And I take my chess board along to different places and I remember this one place, there was a little boy, I'd never heard of him, I just spoke to the minister, he said, there's a little child staying there and if you talk to that child about the gospel, he laughs, about how he laughs.

He watches all these movies about whatever, where people gruesomely get hurt and he can laugh at violence and stuff like that and there's just nothing to it. And his mother's a drunk that gets brought home every day, white little kid and a very bad situation.

So I went down the road and I tried to find this boy and I saw him in his garden and I said, hello, my name is Roy and some of the kids would just say goodbye but this kid said, hello, I'm cool. So I said, I came in, would you like to play a little chess?

He said, well I've got chess on my computer. Now I'm not propagating computer games but he had chess on his computer. I said, could I come play with you? So I went in there and we sat in front of that computer and we started to play chess.

I can't remember what we did but I remember this. I had my Bible with me and while he was there playing, I opened up my Bible to Revelation 20 and while we were playing chess, I started reading to him.

I have a Revelation 20, the Judgment Day and I saw a great white throne and Him and the Son of Man from His face, the heaven and the earth fled away and there was probably no place for them and I went on that if your name is not in the Book of Life, you're going to be cast into the flames of fire and he was sitting there and he was like, I can't get away from this, I can't get away from this and he didn't laugh.

He just looked at me. You know, after I explained to him how to get your name into the Book of Life, I don't know if he got saved but I know that he went to church every single Sunday. When I had a series of meetings there, he came to every single meeting.

This is a person who laughed at the God. When I was in Booster, South Africa, I went from door to door. We had no church behind us because they didn't want to be behind us. Number one, we had a little hall that we had that could seat about 70, 80 people.

It was a traditional place and I went in this place and I went from door to door with a whole lot of young students and basically every person, apart from the Jehovah's Witnesses, I knocked on the door and they said, I've got my church.

And I thought, how do you get over this? Do you just go to your knees and pray for hours and hours and hours until you go to the door and they say, I'm coming. Well, how we got over it was I decided I'm going to be a little ingenious and I went down the road and I visited the three main ministers.

I went up to the door, I said hello, knocked on the door, opened the door, sat down, I said to them, listen, my name is Roy Daniel, we're holding a little series of meetings here, going to the schools, different things like that and can I for five minutes just talk to you?