The House of Loreto, Stephen Boyce, the Cringey NXR Guys, and Hansen on ABS

Well greetings. Welcome to the dividing line on. I guess it's Tuesday. What. Oh, yeah, I guess Tuesday. One more this week on Thursday. Then next week we will be on the road heading to Lubbock, Texas and Las Cruces.

Short trip only ten days. That's a pretty short one for me anyways when you're on the road and. So, oh I need to make sure to silence this thing. Mute for an hour. Thank you. So the big all the kids can keep playing.

Anyway looking for something in the.

Our.

Group chat and Man, we post a lot of weird stuff in here. But I was looking for that. Comment from voice. I wanted to respond to that but it's not. There it is, okay, there it is. Hopefully it won't scroll.

That's that's. That's why I love you get something sitting there and then you look back and. Something completely different happens on X all the time. Lots of stuff up in the screen here. How much we will get to I really don't know.

Especially part of it is the alley best sucky thing with Jacob Hansen and That could take a lot of time. So want to get to a few other things that I've had running around. Um, first and foremost. Yesterday, let me see if I can pull this up.

Yeah, here it is. Let's drag this over here and see if I can make this big or something. Got that. No, it doesn't. Want to let me do that. Does it. No it doesn't. Not sure why. That is a new tab. That's best I can be able to do.

There is for some reason there's normally the thing that says make this as big as the screen.

And.

It's not there. Might be because it's a I don't know not gonna speculate why X AI Continuously changes things without any really rational reason. But anyway, um. So, there you go, uh.

I.

Posted this and you'll see the comment in the upper right-hand corner undoubtedly the new standard of cringe. I saw this and of course, you've got Calvin Robinson in the middle and Joel Webbin over there and Joel Webbin sidekick on the other side.

I've never heard him actually contribute an original thought so I don't generally think too much about him, but What am I talking about when I say cringe. Am I just talking about the cigarettes? Well.

No.

You know people have posted pictures of Jeff Durbin with a cigar. See you're a hypocrite. I have never gotten into any of that stuff. Um, I Grew up with an absolute detestation of smoking and it wasn't just religious though.

It did have a religious element to it. Um,.

I.

Just detest the smell and I I lost track. This was back in the days when you could smoke in a restaurant and there were no there were no rules against it. I remember so clearly. Me and my parents were at this Mexican restaurant in Youngtown, Arizona.

Okay, it's right next to does it still exist? I'm not sure if Youngtown got sucked into Peoria or something because it was this tiny little bit of nothing and Anyway We're at this restaurant and is this table next to us was smoking and it was just ruining my food.

I mean it just it it stinks cigarettes stink. As it's been said properly many many times smoking a cigarette will not send you to hell. It'll only make you smell like you've already been there and it's true.

They you once you start smoking your breath will never be fresh again. Well, okay. It will be after a year of not doing it. Anyways, this this couple, you know, this guy is smoking and they get up and they leave and he leaves the cigarettes sitting there putting on his plume of smoke and so I'm like.

So I reach over and I grab it and I stick it in the water glass and I put it back in the ashtray.

You know.

They had gone to the restaurant. Either that I got dancing or something. I don't know. They come back sit down this guy picks up and goes Looking at it. I'm just like Yeah, anyway. You combine that With the fact that when when I was department fellow anatomy and physiology at Grand Canyon University under dr. James Witherspoon.

We had our own cadavers. We had cadavers before ASU had cadavers. Ours were chemically stored. We used phenol which has later been proven to be a carcinogen, but I've survived.

And.

We had a cadaver named Willie and that was his actual name and I was involved in the original displaying of him and Cutting him up and all the rest that kind of fun stuff. I used to be able to do all sorts of stuff like that Without even giving it a second thought.

I I remember I remember so clearly once I've told this story I'll goes the only one that remember but we were preparing for some anatomy and physiology thing and I was eating lunch so I had a bag of Cheetos in my hands and We have a cat splayed out on the thing because we were doing the circulatory system so he had to know what all the veins and arteries and I'm just sitting there eating lunch and This group of high school students comes through and They're checking out, you know Grand Canyon and our facilities and stuff and I look over and there's this little kid The look of absolute shock on his face there's this dead cat and I'm eating and I'm doing you know right over it and That he turned white as a sheet and I thought he was gonna pass out.

But anyway.

The.

One of the biggest regrets regrets regrets I have. What what are you gonna interrupt me? Oh, okay. That I have is that I did not take a Polaroid picture. This was back when that was about all you could do.

This is long before cell phones. This is the 80s. Um, I Did not take a Polaroid picture of Willy's lungs. Because anywhere you cut in Willy's lungs was black as pitch black as pitch. And You could point to the place on his heart that killed him.

The myocardial infarction that took him out and made him a cadaver to be used at Grand Canyon back then. College. Yeah, I was still college.

Um.

So I wish I had done that. I thought about doing it more than once. Just show you that, you know anywhere you pulled that lung open. But I didn't do it and That's one of my great yeah, so I just. Smoking a cigarette is one of the dumbest things you can ever do to your body.

There's just no question about it. No one no one can argue about this. I mean you're sucking carcinogens as Deeply into some of those sensitive tissues in your entire body with regularity. Okay, it's stupid.

It's just dumb. I don't care and oh. But all the stars of 1950s. Yeah, let me remind you of the most amazing Male singing voice I think ever Nat King Cole. What a voice. He would smoke half a pack before recording any song.

How early did he die in his 50s of lung cancer? Oh.

Yeah.

So I have zero respect for cigarette smokers if you're addicted, I'm sorry, you know. You've got all sorts of patches and stuff like that, you know. Cigars. Only mildly less offensive to me. I've never smelled one that I liked and People say yeah, but you don't inhale.

I don't know. I'm not gonna find out. I don't care. There are one or two Versions of pipe smoke that actually smells semi-decent. One or two not not any others. Um, but I no way, you know, I'm still a cyclist.

I'm not. I'm not poisoning my lungs with stuff like that so. Yeah, okay. I think the cigarette stuff is stupid. But the reason I call this cringe first of all is we are the new Christian, right? Okay.

Well, they're missing someone here. You know who else is a part of NXR the new Christian, right Jordan Hall and I you know, I was never Jordan Hall's buddy. But I went up there I spoke at his church he sort of moderated a debate we did up there was that 2013 something like that.

Might have been even earlier than that. I think about I'd have to go back and look.

Um.

The the man that I used to know Would have mocked that picture mercilessly and he knows it he knows it. But now he can't mock it because those are his boys. That's his group. That's who he's thrown in with the new Christian, right?

So I.

Had dinner with Joel Webbin only a few years ago in Georgetown and I don't remember any smoking. I Never smelled cigarettes breath on him and that's really hard to hide. I Mean, I could have missed it.

I suppose but I get the distinct feeling. This is all brand-new. This is all Cringeworthy. Pursuing the new sumum bonum, you know what the sumum bonum is. Sumum bonum is the Latin phrase highest good.

The highest good. What is the highest good now?

In.

Well in Chrysalis nationalism and online the highest good is engagement. That's the new word. Engagement. How many people do you have clicking into your feet? This is this is all that matters now. Theology consistency gospel.

It doesn't produce engagement. Who cares it's irrelevant. And so this Stuff evidently somebody thinks that looks cool. No, it doesn't. It's absurd. It's stupid. Um, it doesn't look cool, especially when people realize you're just doing it for more engagement.

You're doing it for clicks.

But.

That's the whole reason it's being done so that's the reason I find it stupid and cringeworthy, but there's something far more cringeworthy about this and. That is he got two guys from an ostensibly Probably not for long Reformed Baptist Church.

With a guy who only what two years ago Agreed with and promoted one of the The crazy statements from Anthony Catholicism on X. He's got just he's another engagement farmer. He's just people throw stuff out there.

All they're looking for is the bucks. They it doesn't matter how stupid it is. Doesn't matter how insane it is. You just throw it out there.

Um.

It's another reason why we're not monetized. Okay, you can't you can't look at me and say you say stupid things on X get money too. No, I don't I'm not monetized. I've got more than enough followers that I could probably make a fair amount of money.

But can't. So I don't get accused the same thing. But he does it it's obvious and he's the one who threw that thing out there and said the thief on the cross. Was saved through the intercessory prayers of Mary which by the way, he repeated last week, I guess he's happened to be recycle stupid things to say.

And.

Calvin Robinson's going what's yo? Yeah, that's that's when we really started getting an idea. Just we had this idea for some reason when he first showed up during kovat that he was a conservative voice in the Anglican Church and.

Which in England there aren't many sort of Anglicans. He wasn't in fact, I've lost track of all the different churches. He's been a part of and got kicked out of but the guys Catholic in his soteriology and his Mariology and his hummer Tali harm artiology and everything else.

So Here here these guys are standing there and they're the new Christian, right? Which means the new Christian, right? What does it lack? The gospel. Yeah, the gospel. So let me ask you some good old Joel webinar pastor in in Texas not very far because I had to drive through it.

I had to go around one side of it to get up to Georgetown. Not very far from Austin. Now you want the deepest? Bluest part of Texas. It's Austin and Houston. Okay, I mean look at look at the people that are elected in these places, I mean they are California level loons.

Okay, absolute nutcases. These guys are gonna change America they're gonna take over. Do you think that the area Around Austin Georgetown that part of Texas, you know, I'm not sure what congressional districts.

There are and all the rest that kind of stuff. I didn't look that up. Do you think?

That.

Talarico this.

Wacko.

Leftist Nutball that's running for Senate. Do you think he's gonna carry that area? Of course you will. He'll carry their area around Austin. Whether Georgetown is in that same district or something, I don't know.

I didn't look. How come we don't see massive changes happening there in Georgetown and Austin. Because we have Christian nationalist pastors nationally known ones. One guy who just spoke at this America America first United thing that weapons spoke at.

And I didn't. Oh drat. I was gonna cue that up. Um. There was a guy that spoke of this thing that weapons spoke at and he was talking about these non-negotiable things and Christian nationalism and repealing the 19th and and Realistic racial viewpoints and anti Israel supremacy and you know all his Stuff that gets him the clicks, which he wasn't talking anything about any of that a few years ago.

But.

He does his thing and who comes up after he's done a chick. You know the women that aren't supposed to be speaking Republican should have the vote taken away from him. And somebody told me she's actually a Muslim.

There were Muslims speaking at this thing and One of the guys who spoke I listened to some of what he was saying, I don't know if it was right after him. It's a Mormon guy and He's talking about how the Jews edited the Old Testament.

To take out references in the Old Testament. He's talking about how the Bible's corrupted. This is America first United. Yeah, what's the one thing you have to do to get speak there? Throw the gospel out the window.

That's what that's your that's your bona fide. That's what's gonna get you through the door. Chuck the gospel. Don't witness to the Mormon don't witness to the Muslim. Because that'll make us ununited right.

Disunited.

Yeah, that's same guy. How's it? How's it going with the Christian nationalism there in Georgetown? Who's who's been elected now? You see without a gospel. They can't change hearts without hearts. They're not gonna win elections.

They're not gonna change elections. It's Chrysalis nationalism. It's just political Chicanery, it's how to get clicks how to get engagement. It's all it is. So when I say You know when I call this cringeworthy, you know what people did they started posting pictures of me wearing a cat shirt.

Okay, which means they didn't get what I was saying. They didn't understand for a second. I'm not trying to get clicks. I'm not trying to get engagement. Oh. But you're on the Internet. We invented this.

Okay, I'm not Al Gore. I didn't invent the Internet but I've never had anybody come up to me in a quarter century and Say we were doing webcasting before you now. There might have been somebody I.

Don't know.

We weren't Prophets we weren't looking going. Hey, this is a wave of the future. No, we were poor as church mice. We were just trying to survive and we we had this radio program on Saturdays on terrestrial radio.

Nobody listens to terrestrial radio on Saturday and We just noticed something over time. We were paying like 700 bucks a month as I recall, huh? 600 a month for an hour-long program on Saturdays. Yeah, I was like 98 99 somewhere on there.

And.

Yeah, it was it was a massive part of our budget. Yeah, I was making a lot of money back then.

And.

We just noticed that people were. The calls who get in the program were from the Internet which had only recently become a thing.

And.

The radio station was already Live-streaming technically on a platform called real audio. Real audio mp3 hadn't been invented yet and So we're like Rich is like, you know, all of our callers are Out of state.

They're not even listening to the program on radio. They're listening to it on the Internet now and They call in and So he goes and he decides you know what? I wonder if we can do real audio and what would be involved?

So you went out? Yeah, we can get a real audio server and I need to do this and I need to get that and we can do this ourselves and So we started doing the dividing line on real audio from Rich's garage at his house, that's where my office was and In fact, I'll never forget that office, which is a garage again, by the way.

But I'll never forget in that office. You know, we put a microphone on This desk thing I had. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't think that's same one. No, I don't think so. No, no, no, that was this a deeper deeper color.

We replaced it when we moved in here anyway.

And.

I remember doing the very first radio free Geneva in that office via real audio. That's how long ago it was so that you know, we're talking a quarter century now. Since we since we did this so we've been doing this forever.

We don't need to be looking for engagement. We're not we're not trying to get clicks. The people that watch this program want to because. They go these guys been around they're getting old. They get a little long in the tooth and they've been consistent all along.

That's that's all there is to it. And these guys they're like consistency. What's that? We'll just which way is the wind blown today? Oh smoking. Let's do smoking. Okay whatever. You know, let's go get the Jews that seems to be really popular today.

Okay now and who knows what's gonna be five years from now. But I can guarantee you I can guarantee you five years from now Joel Webb and will not be talking about the same non-negotiables. He's talking about now ain't gonna happen.

He didn't make it three years the same non-negotiables. So five mm. I'd happen. I'd happen so anyway, uh, so. For those of you who go. Oh, well, look at you. I mean look at the dumb shirt. You're wearing.

Okay, okay. Maybe you don't like my cat shirt. I don't care. I'm not wearing it to try to be cool. I'm not sitting here smoking a cigarette someone did create a AI of me in here smoking a cigarette. Which is if you want a real abusive AI, there you go.

That's the dumbest thing could ever happen. What so.

For a couple of a well certain Roman Catholic in the chat right now who Has been going on about me being the one not taught commenting on this. I Was repulsed by cigarette smoke. See I was not raised like you.

I was raised in. Well I was raised in a Philistine family. We'll put it that way. And they were chain smokers. Oh Yeah, all the way up into my mid-teens and I learned anything you have from that period.

Your life still smells. Yeah.

Well, I.

Remember giving them so much grief at the age of 12. I Was giving them grief of how disgusting and terrible and it stank and on and on and of course my allergies. Compounded and So and their solution to that was to give the 12 year old some Actifed for his allergies and he can go down for a long nap.

But no you you you won't find me anywhere around that stuff either. Yeah. Oh, no. No, no.

No, no. No, okay one other thing. This is what I was looking for. Okay last program I think or the one before I responded to Stephen Boyce's meme and I said hey look You you want it you want to debate because he talked about let's let's debate.

Well, well, here's. Here's what he he wrote. Evidently. This is on Facebook. I just detest Facebook, but someone put it. So basically I call out James White for misspeaking about Ignatius of Antioch in his debate with Joe Heschmeier.

And I challenged him to two separate on two separate platforms one being Cameron Bertuzzi channel, which is not happening by the way. Concerning his claims. There is no bishop in Rome based on Ignatius at the turn of the century and that this Was a layered development coming out of the East.

I forgot to grab it. Doggone it. I almost feel like Having you cue up a song for a second. You know if I'm gonna respond to this You know what? This is live. Hold on a second. I need to get something.

Okay, something I forgot. Hold on. I Know my library better than I should. Look. If you want to talk in a scholarly fashion, I guess I should have closed the door.

About.

The the challenging subject of the early succession lists and The ecclesiology of the Church of Rome then you need to go a scholarship. Okay. So for example Fortress press what was the date on this? So in 2003, so it's been 20 years.

Chapter 41 fractionation monarchical episcopate episcopacy and presbyterial government governance in Peter Lambs the the from Paul to Valentinus. Okay. This is the kind of stuff you'd be looking at and Boyce Has gotten really bad since he started becoming a Catholic and accurately representing what I say.

It's it's convert syndrome. It's the same thing Notice what he says here Based on Ignatius at the turn of the century that there was no bishop in Rome based on Ignatius. Excuse me. There is a vast difference Stephen between a monarchical episcopate and A plurality of elders which would be bishops.

So, of course, there was a bishop in Rome. There just wasn't one. Why can't you accurately represent things? It's because you're not thinking about it. You're in the honeymoon phase. You don't even hear what you're saying.

So this is the stuff everybody needs to be thinking about.

Because.

Cameron Bertuzzi also just put out a engagement creating video. New information, it's been 120 years and this is it. There's nothing new in it at all. Nothing zero new data at all in This presentation.

It's just meant to get clicks. Yeah, well it was an interesting argument, yeah, it's interesting argument, but it's still ignores the reality. That of course there was a bishop in Rome. Just not one there was a plurality that's the point that's the issue.

So. And then secondly, what did I say wrong about Ignatius. Are you saying that there are not people who have questioned Ignatius's existence because of the wide variety of different traditions in the Ignatian materials, is that what you want to defend that no one's ever questioned that?

What'd I say wrong? I didn't say anything wrong. It's it was what you and your buddies picked up on and lied about later. You want to you want me to defend your lies not gonna do that. Okay, I mean the desperation of wanting to debate.

The final question in a cross-examination in a in a debate that wasn't even on that topic. Tells you the state of modern Roman Catholic apologetics. It really does. I mean Francis took the heart out of it and Leo ain't helping because he's continuing the exact same stuff.

He really is so I Laid out to him. You want to debate you want to debate church history, dr. Stephen Boyce, then let's actually debate church history. And I laid out and I've sent sent this through an intermediary.

I Laid out to him the specific statements. Dogmatic statements of the Church of Rome in In defining the Immaculate Conception the bodily assumption of Mary.

Especially in.

In Ephebelus Deus, which is the 1854 Immaculate Conception claim. They got a little less Bold in 1950 with the bodily assumption. They used weasel words on that one, but not in 1854. In 1854 when they laid this out, not only do they have the the anathemas.

But you have the claim that this is the ancient faith of the church. It's not that's a lie. And I said Stephen Boyce you want to defend your new religion? Here is one of the most recent definitions. I mean 1854 some people.

Ah, it's forever ago. No, it's not. That's relatively recent. That's a modern that's modern church history. So here is your church that you submitted yourself to. You've abandoned the gospel. You've abandoned justification by faith.

You've turned your back on the imputed righteousness of Christ for this system. So defend it defend its historical claims. You're a historian, right? Why in the world would you want to defend why would you want me to defend some disputed statement in a debate on a topic that debate wasn't even about rather than a clear Perspicuous claim of your own religion that you now tell people they should be a part of.

That is historically fraudulent. You know, you cannot defend immaculate conception. You know that Pope's taught against it. You know not even Thomas Aquinas believed the version that is eventually dogmatized.

You know all of that and what's more is you know, the early church didn't have a clue of this stuff. You know all that that's why you won't defend it. Just be honest with yourself. I mean, it's tough in the convert stage.

I get it honeymoon stage. It's rough. You know, you've got that conscience gnawing at you and you know, I I understand it's it's rough.

But.

Yeah, so here here he says. Unrelated debate topics on X stuff like that. He then calls me out over a meme and accused me of lying even though he is the one who misspoke on what I Did not. I never said he did not exist.

You know that be honest quit lying to yourself. And after multiple multiple explanations and excuses finally admitted he should not have Commented on Ignatius the way he did in an unimportant segment of the debate.

That's not the same thing. You are playing with weasel words, and you know you are.

And.

So. Then he says I'm willing to do a separate Marian debate dealing with how the Reformers understood these doctrines and whether Protestants Should accept them today. Okay.

Again, I.

Have no concern about the fact that Luther Began with deep devotion to Mary. The fact is by the end of his life He had diminished all of almost all that stuff. Anybody who started with that I mean Zwingli didn't live long enough to really track any of it, but Luther diminished His emphasis upon Mary throughout his life.

Calvin had Almost nothing to say about it. It was not a part of the first generation or the second part of the generation of the Reformation. It's irrelevant. It means nothing. And the fact that you guys have to hammer on this again shows you won't defend The actual dogmatic teachings of Rome.

You are afraid to. All of you are. All of you are. There's only one guy. There's been one guy. No. Two guys two guys. The attorney on Long Island Defended the Immaculate Conception. He used fraudulent sources in it, but he's tried and Bob St. Genes Defended the bodily assumption on what basis?

Acts 15 so it was just an authority argument. It wasn't a historical argument because you know you can't do it that way. Jerry. Jerry and I did Immaculate Conception during I did well Jerry and I did all the Marian dogmas.

That that first time around so yeah Jerry has done Immaculate Conception. Yeah, and by so I guess we can throw him in there, but Jerry's not a Roman Catholic anymore. So well of course he says he's one of the only Roman Catholics anymore.

So I don't know what he says anymore. Be honest with you. I haven't heard of Jerry. The last thing I heard about Jerry Matta-Tix was when he was on Jeopardy. Seriously, and he didn't win that day, but hey probably did a whole lot better than I would have.

So look.

What are we doing?

Why are we avoiding the main topic to start all this in the first place you know the main topic start all this in first. Place your apostasy. That's what started it. Okay, so Steven you're you're blowing smoke and everybody can see through it.

So either go no. I will not defend the Immaculate Conception. I will not defend an Ephebelus Deus. I will not defend the historicity of the claims of my own new religion. Just come out and say it. But stop with this stuff.

This is silly. It's embarrassing it really is. My hope is that someday you're gonna go wow. I can't believe what convert syndrome does to you. But it's pretty sad. Really is speaking of that stuff I ran across.

Remember a couple weeks ago, and this is relevant to the boy stuff. Go weeks ago. I read you. I put up on the screen the litany of Loretto. I did a little looking around and I had not seen it before then.

I I guess it's fairly famous, but I could spend a lot of time looking into The wild-eyed Marian stuff that developed from say 1200 all the way up to the current time. I mean, I've shown you the pictures of the ugly duckling car building.

You know it couldn't have been that long ago that I showed that picture of the Mary in the window. Which was actually a reconstituted water stain from a palm tree. But there's Mary until the building got de-marianized by a slingshot from a nearby gas station.

This wild Insane Marian cult stuff continues to this day, but it didn't start just recently. It's been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years.

And.

So When I had seen this litany of Loretto thing and I had commented on it, I I read it on the on the program. Boy there was a lot of comment on X and all these. Oh, thank you for posting that. It's beautiful.

It's just it's you know. It's just so lovely. It is like no. It's just so blasphemous. And it just shows you that Without opening the eyes there there are people literally looking at this thing where 85 is about merit 85 of it, and then you got the Trinity at the top and the Trinity at the bottom.

And they're like see it mentions the Trinity. And it's like okay, but there's 85 of it is pure hooey.

Um.

So far beyond anything that any Apostle ever dreamed That you can't even comment on it, but as long as it mentions the Trinity, then we're good. That's it was pretty amazing so I Decided to go. Oh, okay.

Loretto. I wonder if that has to do with the house of Loretto. So let me tell you just briefly. I'm not going to lies. I need to get in the alley best ducky stuff, but One of the most visited Marian shrines in the world is the house of Loretto and Most Protestants have never heard of it never heard the house Loretto.

No rich going. I've probably mentioned it in passing. It's a it's a small stone building about 9 .5 meters long 4 meters wide 5 meters tall. That's small. That's that's very small. It is in a basilica now which surrounds it so the this little buildings inside it and Here's the description.

The structure is made of stone lacks foundations and sits directly on the ground. It has three walls a fourth was supposedly already part of a larger structure in Nazareth and Contains no mortar typical of local Italian construction.

Okay.

Now.

The earliest Documentation we have about this is from 1294 and what's happening at the end of the 13th century is the collapse of the Crusader States and in all probability in all probability. What really gave rise this story historically.

Was.

Some wealthy Crusader state family that comes back to Italy as the Muslims are pushing everybody out and there was a shrine or some type of You know something lost to history associated with Nazareth and they Transported either some of the stones or maybe a bunch of the stones with them back to Italy and Then this story grew up around it because this is an incredibly incredulous period the things that people believe during this time period are Amazing.

I mean this is right after Thomas Aquinas is death Thomas believed for example that Luke created an icon of Mary painted an icon of Mary and this is evidence of the Apostolic origins of icon veneration and all that kind of stuff.

And this is where many of the relics come from, you know, I you know as Erasmus well said There were so many genuine splinters of the cross in Europe in his day they could have built an entire ship out of them You know feathers from the angel Gabriel of a Vial of Mary's breast milk.

I mean seriously, this is the kind of stuff that you have From this time period People believed almost anything right now and So that's probably where it came from. But here's what the story is. The story is the story that's that popes have believed and given indulgences to come visit this place and and This this litany of Loretto the one I read to you is from Vatican VA.

It's the official website of the Vatican and This prayer is now closely associated with the house of Loretto. It's called a litany of Loretto house of Loretto.

And.

This is supposedly the house where the Annunciation took place and where the Holy Family lived in Nazareth that was picked up by angels and Air transported from Nazareth to Italy now it landed in a couple different places.

Eventually in 1294 in the location that it's in now. But yes Rome believed and Gave credence to and has given indulgences for going to visit the house of Loretto Which is supposedly Mary's house. Carried by angels from the Holy Land to Italy.

Okay so These kinds of prayers that are so wildly imbalanced. So wildly imbalanced it some of you may not have heard it. Some of you may not have heard it. We'll run through it. It's not long. Well, it's actually it feels really long when you have to read it.

Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy. Lord have mercy Christ. Hear us. Christ graciously hear us. God the Father of heaven have mercy on us. God the Son redeemed of the world. God the Holy Spirit. Holy Trinity one God.