Witchcraft in the Church - Part 2 — Keith Malcomson

The Word of God and the Remedies for Witchcraft

Here this morning. I want you to turn with me again to Galatians chapter 3. Galatians chapter 3. And we already started on this. I want to continue a bit. I'm not sure how far I will go here this morning.

And I just want to continue preaching. I know it's a sad time for us with funerals and the loss of loved ones. But we do want to fix our mind on the Word of God and keep our eye fixed upon him. We want to see the Word of God spread in this city and we want to reach souls for the Lord Jesus Christ.

And my message here this morning continuing. Last time we dealt with witchcraft in the church. And if you didn't listen to that or hear that message, please go and listen to it. It's such an important message for this hour.

Witchcraft in the church. But I want to go a bit further here and give three remedies for witchcraft in the church. I want to deal with three specific things very briefly but very vitally in the book of Galatians.

And I believe that witchcraft either obscures them or pushes them aside or covers them with the darkness of witchcraft. Or else these three things destroy the power of witchcraft in the church. Reading from Galatians chapter 3 and verse 1 here this morning.

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you? And listen, that ye should not obey the truth. Immediately Paul begins to show that what it is for witchcraft to be in the church, for the influence of certain teachers.

Suddenly within real churches men stop obeying the written truth and commands of God. And he goes on. Before whose eyes Jesus Christ has been evidently set forth, crucified among you, this only would I learn of you.

Receive ye the spirit by the works of the law or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish, having begun in the spirit? Are ye made perfect by the flesh? Let's pray here this morning together. Father, I do pray for this word, Lord God, that it would be the balm of Gilead to each one of our hearts.

Father, we want a church, Lord God, that functions in the Holy Spirit. We want a church that is centered upon the finished work of the cross. We want a church that holds fast to justification by faith alone, in Christ alone, by grace alone.

And Lord God, we do want to know how to walk in the spirit and by the power of your Holy Spirit. Father, I do pray, open up these truths, oh God, that destroy the power of fleshly witchcraft. My God, I pray that you expose it, that you break its power, that we would be a church so dominated by the finished work of the cross, by blood redemption, by a crucified life.

Lord God, that we would be so intimate with the truth of justification by faith, of imputed righteousness, that every witchcraft, the power of it, the fear of it will be broken. Lord God, be very gracious unto us, and Lord God, make Christ central in all things this morning, that your name might be glorified.

Amen. Amen. My second message here on witchcraft, three remedies for witchcraft in the church. We have already shown how witchcraft can be in the church, and it says here in Galatians 3, chapter 3, verse 1, O foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you?

These were a whole group of churches within an entire province, and Paul writing to them as an entire entity, as a whole grouping of churches, mature as well as young, and saying that they had been bewitched, and we want to deal with this here this morning.

In Galatians chapter 5, it says that witchcraft is a sin of the flesh, or a manifestation of the flesh. In other words, the witchcraft we're dealing with in the book of Galatians, it's a manifestation of the flesh.

What is the flesh? It is the old nature, the uncrucified nature, the fallen nature of man. The flesh of man is that nature of Adam that fell in the garden. It's the nature we are born with, and that nature is utterly opposed to everything of God, of his word, his kingdom, and of his spirit.

It says again in 1 Samuel chapter 15 and 23, for rebellion is as a sin of witchcraft. In our first message, we looked at King Saul, the first anointed king of Israel, how that the rebellion in his heart against authority led him into 38 years of sin.

For 38 years as he walked in rebellion, it was as a sin of witchcraft. In other words, where you get rebellion in the heart, it is very similar in its effect to witchcraft. You may never cast a spell, and yet you're operating in a soulish spiritual power that attracts demonic influence.

It's such a dangerous thing. We also looked at the prophet Balaam, how he mixed the gifts of God and real prophecies and manifestations with that which is pure witchcraft. He made a mixture of it and led God's people into sin.

And then thirdly, we looked at that convert Simon, who had been a sorcerer or a witch, and when he came in, believing, being baptized in water, and joining the church at Samaria, we knew that his heart was unchanged.

That same heart motive he wanted to bring right into the church, and it was pure witchcraft. Outwardly, he'd become a Christian, and yet that heart was still fleshly and still dominated by witchcraft.

I want to warn you that witchcraft, when it manifests in the flesh, it is a very deadly thing. It seeks to manipulate. It seeks to dominate. It seeks to control. It seeks to influence by emotion, by words, by actions, by whatever means.

When we look at the Old Testament, we see that story about Samson and Delilah. The Philistine soldiers couldn't conquer Samson, so what did they do? They went to Delilah, this beautiful, young-looking lady, and they said, Delilah, we want you to entice this anointed man of God, and we'll pay you a lot of money if you're able to entice him.

And you know the story. It actually says she tried to get the secret of his strength and to steal his strength for the sake of money. She didn't love him, but she had a manipulative agenda to destroy that man in order to gain money, and yet he thought somehow that she loved him.

It actually says she pressed him daily with her words and urged him so that his soul was vexed unto death. Do you know what that is? That is emotional witchcraft. That is witchcraft coming out of the soul of man, manipulating tears, pressure, maneuvering words, all of that.

Why? To get your own means met. In other words, you use the power of psyche to bring about an effect. I want to warn you here this morning as a church, we as a church have to understand that we are to reject all control, manipulation, game playing in the religious realm, whether it's in a pulpit, whether it's through some old Christian or some young believer in the church.

As soon as this witchcraft begins to manifest as an entity of the flesh, we better be aware of it. It is deadly if you come under its influence. What does Paul say? Oh foolish Galatians, you're not using your head.

You don't have your eyes open. You don't have your ears open. You're not looking at facts or proof or evidence. You're not using your brain or your intelligence. You're being moved by emotions, by deception, by lies.

You're being tricked. You're being fooled. And I want to warn you, we need to come back to the scripture of God again. It's being devoid of common sense or biblical judgment. It's the lack of using the judgment that the Bible says we should.

It's to be on sound in your mind or lacking in the ability to use your intellect and studying things with scripture. As we said last time, to be bewitched, listen what this word bewitched means. It means that someone comes into the church and they begin to malign.

They begin to slander. They begin to speak against. Why are they doing that? To mislead by pretense. To bring deception. And they begin to fascinate or use the magical arts of charm and praise to deceive you and to turn your attitude either against biblical doctrine or a church or preachers that are of God.

This bewitchment is very dangerous. Listen to me as we come to begin to look at three remedies for witchcraft. You've got to know what witchcraft is as a manifestation of the flesh. This word bewitched, listen to what it is in the Greek.

Pharmakeia. Pharmakeia. Where we get our word pharmacy or drugstore. In other words, pharmaceia. To be bewitched. Paul saying to the Galatians, all of you churches somehow in a short time have become bewitched by certain men, certain teachers, certain preachers that have come down from Jerusalem claiming to represent the apostles.

These certain band of men have actually bewitched you. And this word pharmaceia can be used for drugs or for a witchcraft spell or for manipulating religiously. All of this is summed up in this word pharmakeia.

Pharmakeia. That's why drugs is the same as sorcery or witchcraft. When we see people in Limerick and they're operating in drugs, taking heroin or other drugs, do you realize it's the biblical word for witchcraft?

Do you know why? Because when you begin using drugs, it actually draws the presence of the demonic powers. Where you have the use of drugs, you have the operation of demonic powers. All those drug sellers on the high street in Limerick, I assure you, Satan has got a hold of them.

They could be religious. They could be Catholics. They could say all manners of prayers. But if they're selling and using drugs, they're under the influence of hell. We need to draw a clear line on this.

This Greek word pharmakeia is also used in Revelation chapter 18 for that great city Babylon or the headquarters of the end of the last world government that's going to rule in our world. Listen to what it says about the judgment of Babylon.

For by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Babylon is yet to arise and I believe we're at beginning of it. We're about to see the rise of a last world government and it will be called Babylon. That's what's going to mark it.

But do you know how this city of Babylon, this headquarters of Antichrist, do you know how it's going to deceive the nation through sorceries? That's why we've got to understand this as the church. We've got to understand this because I believe witchcraft is going to become very prominent in this hour even by world politics right down to the scum on the local corner of your street.

I assure you that this deception is going to be very broad and we the church have to have a remedy for it. We have to have a power that's greater than it. We have to have a way to fight it and to destroy its effects on sinners because we're going to win many multitudes, many thousands out of it.

Do you know Babylon uses sorceries, drugs, the manipulation of religion. It uses all of these things. It uses sorcery, supernatural demonic powers manifesting forth to tell the future or to call fire from heaven.

Since we don't realize what's just about to happen in our world, world politics and world government is about to become very spiritual, very soulish and it's going to use the power of witchcraft. I do here this morning simply want to give you three vital truths from Galatians that either witchcraft obscures in the church or the church rises up and destroys witchcraft by these three truths.

Witchcraft Resisting the Truth

The apostle Paul in 2nd Timothy chapter 3 and verse 8. Listen to what he's saying. He's writing to young Timothy. Timothy is overseeing an apostolic ministry, the church at Ephesus. Paul is writing here from his prison cell to the young preacher who is there filling in for him at the church at Ephesus many years after it had begun.

Listen to what Paul says here. Now as Janus and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth. Now Paul is speaking to Timothy about certain men who have come into the church at Ephesus who are resisting the truth, certain men.

Do you know what he's saying to Timothy? Just look back to the days of Moses. It's the very same thing that happened in Moses day that is happening in our day to you Timothy in the church at Ephesus. Certain men are withstanding you Timothy in the church at Ephesus and they're coming into the church trying to say they're Christians.

Well he looked back to the days of Moses and he says it was the same with Janus and Jambres. Now who were they? Who were Janus and Jambres in the days of Moses? Listen we read about them not by name but we have a veiled comment about them in Exodus chapter 7 and verse 11 when Moses walked into the palace of Pharaoh and began to challenge him and call down 10 plagues on the nation to say let my people go.

Let Israel go out of this captivity when Moses came to deliver God's people and set them free from the bondage of Pharaoh. Do you know what? These two men Janus and Jambres arose. Listen carefully from Exodus 7.

Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers. Now the magicians of Egypt they also did like manner with their enchantments. Now I want you to notice here the old Jewish writing say Janus and Jambres were the leaders of these sorcerers of these magicians of these wise men down in Egypt who rose up every time Moses done a miracle they rose up and they copied it.

You produce frogs we'll produce frogs. You do this we can do the same. They were using witchcraft to bring this about. It says then in chapter 7 22 and the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments and Pharaoh's heart was hardened.

Neither did he hearken unto them as the Lord had said. Do you realize Paul is looking back to the days of Moses and he sees these two men rise up who withstood the words the preaching of Moses. And do you know what they used?

They used witchcraft. They used enchantments. They used sorcery. They used tricks. They done all of this to deceive Pharaoh. And do you know what? As soon as they started to play their religious games their games that looked like power looked like the same power as God.

It looked like their prayers would be answered. Do you know what? It hardened the heart of Pharaoh that he did not listen the word of God. I'm showing you something very important about witchcraft that it hardens the heart against the true word of God.

We read the same in Acts chapter 13 when Paul and Barnabas traveled to the island of Cyprus and they begin to travel through preaching from town unto town until finally they reached a town where the deputy of the country the leader of the country was a man called Sergius Paulus.

And listen to what it says in Acts 13. He was a prudent man who called for Barnabas and Saul and desired to hear the word of God. Now here's the leader in this region in this country and he hears about the preaching.

He hears about the miracles and he calls I want to hear the word of God. But you know who else was there in that palace of this great man? The Bible says a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew whose name was Bar-Jesus or again it says his name was Elimus.

Two names Elimus the sorcerer. And listen this false prophet it says he withstood them seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. So he's using all of his witchcraft, all of his powers of prophecy.

He's claiming to be a Jew, claiming to be a prophet of God, claiming to be a representative of God. But you know what? He's operating in witchcraft. And what does he do? He opposes the preaching of Paul and Barnabas.

But thank God that man of God Paul filled with the Holy Spirit looked upon him and said thou child of a devil. And he was struck blind. Oh that we could do that again in our meetings. But you know Janice and Jambres what their name means.

Janice means to seduce. Jambres means rebellion. Just like Saul, King Saul. So we see the Janice and Jambres rebellion and seduction. That's what marks witchcraft. A deception, a desire, a fleshly desire in the heart to say I want to win you over to my side.

I don't want you listening that preaching. I want you to be won over and I'll deceive, I'll lie, I'll use power, I'll claim God, I'll use prophecy, I'll do what it takes. Since when you get opposition to the real preaching of the gospel, when you see wicked men rise up and not only disbelieve or disagree or get annoyed, but they oppose it, they attack it.

There is witchcraft operating in the midst of that. Witchcraft is in utter opposition to the gospel of Jesus Christ, to the preaching of the truth of God's word. It attacks it. It stands against it. In the Old Testament we read about Absalom the son of David.

He grew up in that home and when he reached the age of 40 years old he started to get ideas. I should be king. I should have the position. I should have the anointing. I should sit in the throne. My father is old.

He can't do the job like me. I'm able to do it far better than him. You know what pride leads to? A great fall. It is so so dangerous. You know what Absalom, this young man raised in a godly godly house under a man who truly knew God and never tried to manipulate things.

David never manipulated the situation or used the gifts of God to gain what he wanted. He never lifted a finger against Saul to get into that position. Oh never, never. That's a man who's free of witchcraft.

But look at his son Absalom growing up in his own home. It says that he got for himself or prepared chariots, horses and 50 men to run before him. Then he began to rise early to stand in the gate of the city and when people from other towns and villages came he called to them and in fact he said what's your problem?

Then he said your problem is good. The thing that you have is good. I would seek justice for you but I don't have the power. My father has it and he can't hear you but if I had the power I would look for justice.

It says he took them by the hand and he kissed them. He drew them in close to them and it says this so Absalom stole the hearts of the men of Israel and so began a rebellion against his father, against the authority of God, against the kingdom of God and you know what Absalom's rebellion, it swept the kingdom of David to such an extent David had a flee with all his faithful men.

He went for the hills and there was a rising of rebellion. Joab came in on it. The priest came in on it. Many others came in on it and I can assure you it was a rebellion marked by witchcraft. You see witchcraft is something that comes out of the flesh of man.

You go I'll use words, position, power, influence, the claim of the power of God. I'll even display gifts of the Holy Spirit. You know what I'm trying to do? I'm trying to steal your heart. I'm trying to you know if any man tries to claim your heart unless he's a tall handsome guy and you're a beautiful young girl and both of you are godly and he's after you that's okay but if anyone else preacher or not tries to claim your heart instead of making you fall in love with the Lord Jesus Christ there is an issue.

Witchcraft. I don't care how smooth their words are. I don't care what they say about you. I don't care how spiritual they look. You better be careful and this is why John says in 1 John chapter 4 and 1.

Beloved believe not every spirit but try or test the spirits whether they are of God for many false prophets are gone out into the world. I want to give you three warnings here from the churches of Galatia that Paul warns about.

False Gospels and the Bewitching of Galatia

He says oh foolish Galatians who hath bewitched you. Throughout the entire book of Galatians these six chapters he mentions these individuals. Remember Paul had preached the gospel in Galatia. He is the one that brought the gospel to them.

He raised up the churches. He done miracles among them. Won them to Christ. Showed them the truth of the gospel but several years down the road or maybe three years down the road there came certain men.

He says in Galatians 1 and 6 but there be some that trouble you or confuse you and they would pervert the gospel of Christ. In other words turn it inside out. He also says in chapter 4 and 17 they zealously affect you but not well.

In other words they get you burning. They get you stirred up. They get you burning with fire in your heart but not in a good way. These men that have come in Paul begins to say you Galatians when I first come amongst you you treated me like an angel of God.

That's how you actually treated me. Now you're almost treating me like a demon. When I first come among you you would have plucked out your eyes and given them to me. Now because I tell you the truth preach to you the truth speak to you the word of God out of love but I cannot say anything but the truth of God.

You hate me. You hate me. Since I'm telling you about one of the greatest apostles who ever walked on the earth. He raised up all of these churches in Galatia and in case you don't know they were Celts.

They were Gauls. That's where the name Galatian comes from. They come from the south of France Gaul. They spread all the way over to Turkey and in that middle region of Turkey that we've heard about before these Gauls or these Celts settled there and that's how Paul begins to evangelize.

Paul the apostle was the first in the east of the entire empire to evangelize the Celts and that was finished when Saint Patrick 300 years later came to Ireland to preach the gospel from the apostle Paul in the first century to Saint Patrick in the fourth century evangelizing an entire continent.

What an amazing thing. It was the same culture and the same people and you know what they were fickle. What Paul describes here they were a people who fast ran after him and said we'd die for you and very shortly they were wanting to take his life.

You see I believe in this story about these Judaizers and that's what they're called Judaizers. Men from Jerusalem who claimed to be Jews converted to Christ who believed in the cross being born again.

They believed in the ministry of the apostles but they come challenging Paul. They come saying he's not a true apostle. He's not preaching the truth. We have a greater revelation. Well do you know there was a great fight in these Galatian churches and I believe witchcraft was primary.

It stole the hearts of many believers in the churches of Galatia and those who had once loved Paul now stood in great doubt about him and those who once walked in the true gospel had now changed it for another gospel and yet they still thought that they were walking with Jesus Christ.

I want to give you here three things that either become obscured by witchcraft or three things that defeat and destroy the power of witchcraft in the church. They destroy the power of manipulation, of fear, of control, of drug use.

I can assure you these three things will destroy the use of drugs in any life but it'll also destroy religious schemes using the gifts and positions of the Holy Spirit for a person's own end. Here's my three points here this morning.

The Centrality of the Cross

First of all the centrality of the cross. The centrality of the cross. Look again Galatians chapter 3 and verse 1. O foolish Galatians who hath bewitched you that ye should not obey the truth before whose eyes Jesus Christ has been evidently set forth crucified among you.

Do you know what Paul was saying here? He was saying I know you've come under the power of witchcraft. Under the influence of these men they were operating in witchcraft. It was a manifestation of their flesh, the fallen nature.

There's nothing spiritual about it, nothing of God. Out of their flesh came rebellion, witchcraft to control you and they have turned not only individuals against me but entire churches across an entire land, an entire culture.

They have managed to turn. How did they do that? Through witchcraft and do you know what Paul is saying here? O foolish Galatians what has happened to you? Who have bewitched you? What has gone on? How could you have changed sides?

How could this have happened to you? Do you know why he says it happened to them? He says do you realize that this witchcraft, this bewitchment has blinded your eyes to the centrality of Christ crucified?

That's what he's saying here. I know that there's a spell on you. I know you must have taken drugs. I know that you've been manipulated religiously. Do you know how I know that? I always preach the cross in your midst.

While I was with you, when these churches began, we preached about Christ and him crucified. Paul actually says here that before whose eyes Jesus Christ had been evidently set forth among you. Do you know what evidently set forth among you means?

I told you last time it's the word prographo. Another where we get our word graphic to display a beautiful picture, to draw a beautiful, clear, distinct picture right in front of your eyes, right in front of your face.

You know what Paul is saying? When I come preaching amongst you, I so preach the word of God that I made the crucifixion of Christ to be like a picture set before you. It was set before your eyes. You saw Christ crucified as if you'd been there at the cross, seeing Jesus Christ die for you sinners.

He said, I so preached the gospel. I so arranged the churches that when we gathered as the church, the death of Christ was so evident, so real. It was like you're gazing upon the crucified Christ. When I preached, you could see, you could smell, you could feel the crucified Christ and it changed your lives.

It changed your communities. I held it up before you. I placarded the message of Christ crucified. I held it up before your faces. I was faithful not to preach myself or a church or a denomination. I preached Christ and him crucified.

I preached Christ, not just glorified at the right hand of the father, not as a babe in the manger, not as a man doing miracles. Oh yes, all those things are within truth, but centrally, the most central message that I preached to you was Christ and him crucified.

No mixture, no changing of the message, no addition, no subtraction. I preached to you Christ undiluted. As we said in 1 Corinthians 11 26, it says, when we break bread together and drink the cup, you do show the Lord's death till he come.

You show it. What are we doing when we break bread every week in our meeting? We are showing forth. We are displaying Christ crucified or the death of Jesus until he comes again. Do you realize that God has given us the Lord's table to keep it before our eyes?

He died for you sinners. He suffered on your behalf. Since I'm talking about the cure for witchcraft, if you're a manipulator, if you're a liar, if you're a game player, there is an answer to destroy witchcraft, not fleshly manipulation in the house of God.

You know what it is? It's preaching Christ crucified. If you really see that Jesus Christ died and suffered for your sins on the cross, you're not going to let rebellion in your heart. You're not going to turn to witchcraft.

You're not going to manipulate lies and try to deceive and lie lies. Do you know what a lie is? It could be just not telling the truth. Oh, I didn't lie. I didn't tell any lie. Yes, but you didn't tell the truth when you ought to have told the truth.

That is a lie. You lied in your heart to manipulate, to manipulate the situation, our people. Since when you see that Christ died for you, a sinner, that because of your sin, your fallen nature, your flesh, that you should go to hell eternally.

You know what? You look on the man of Calvary. He's not a rebel. He wasn't a manipulator. He wasn't a liar. He wasn't a deceiver. He didn't pretend gifts and dreams and prophecies and yet use them to gain money or to gain power or to gain a position.

He never done that. Look at the master. The closer he got to the cross, the fewer were those who followed him. He wasn't after the crowds. He preached the truth of God. He preached, if a man's going to follow me, let him deny himself, take up his cross and follow me.

It wasn't crowds that he was looking for. It was disciples of the cross and that's how you discern witchcraft in a church. Are they changing or moving aside the message of the cross in order to fill the church?

Then there's witchcraft. Oh, they may not cast any spell, but I assure you, if they obscure the cross, instead of seeing what the gospel is, Christ died for sinners, that this cross means you must repent of your sin.

We must deal with your sin. Rebellion must be dealt with in your heart. Rejection of authority in home or the church or society. It's rebellion against the cross of Jesus Christ. Do you know what the cross does?

It humbles you at the feet of Jesus Christ. It brings you low all through this book of Galatians. I want to tell you the message of crosses of the cross of Christ crucified is there from Galatians chapter one all the way through to Galatians chapter six.

You'll find that the cross will rescue you. It will remove your old sin nature. It'll restore you. It will bring reproach upon you. It will make you to reproduce the life of God and it will also make you to rejoice.

Listen, in Galatians chapter one, we have the cross and salvation. In Galatians two, the cross and our personal experience. In Galatians chapter three, the cross and the preaching of the gospel. In Galatians chapter five and six, you have the cross and persecution.

In Galatians three, the cross and substitution. And in Galatians five, the cross and holiness. I could keep going here telling you that Galatians is filled with the message of the cross. When Paul said, who has bewitched you?

Do you know what he done? He went back and preached again the cross. Christ died for you. Christ died for sinners. Since this is the remedy to witchcraft in the church, all that manipulation, all the false manifestations of false revivals, of trying to manipulate your husband through tears.

Are you husbands trying to control your wife through threats and abuse? All of this breaks when we come back to the cross of Jesus Christ. You know, if you're a young person, a child, a son or a daughter in this meeting, and you're trying to play games in your home and manipulate and cry and do those things, you won't do that.

If you look to Jesus down on the cross for you again, that is unacceptable. Jesus died that you could be set free from those things. But here, look, it's not only Christ down for us. The cross, the message of the cross is not only that Christ died for your sins, that you could go free.

You know what it's also? You were crucified with Christ. Are you a real Christian? Then why are you blind to the cross? Oh, why do the, why is it the message of the cross has been lost in this generation?

They'll preach about how to feel better, how to be successful, how to have a good marriage. They never mentioned the cross. They can teach all manners of subject and they never take you back to Christ and him crucified.

Paul said to the Corinthians, when I come amongst you, I determined, I set myself that I wouldn't know anything among you apart from Christ and him crucified. Saints in your marriage relationship know nothing but Christ and him crucified.

In this church, whether you preach to the Lord's table, to the door, or simply sit there and pray and encourage, don't let any witchcraft in. For you to be in Christ, to be a Christian is to crucify that old fleshly nature.

Listen, in Galatians 2 and 20, I am crucified with Christ. Nevertheless, I live, yet not I, but Christ liveth in me and the life I now live in the flesh or in the body, I live by the faith of the son of God who loved me and gave himself for me.

What is the life of a true Christian? I glory in the cross. I glory that he died for me, that he suffered in my place, that he died for my sin. All witchcraft of the flesh was suffered for at Calvary.

But more than that, I was crucified with Christ that by faith I might live this new life. In other words, where I get things coming out of that flesh, I want to lie, I want to say things, I want to use spiritual things, I want to begin to use it to gain some sort of influence.

Do you know what? You've got to crucify the flesh with its manifestations. Go back, take your old man, your old man pops up. Have any of you had that? I'm sure all of you are too perfect for that. But now and again, I get that old flesh man saying, I would like to say some things.

You know what I do? I say, come here with me. We are going to the cross where you ought to be. You've reared up again, but you've got no right. Pride isn't going to have its way here. Rebellion isn't.