Street Revival Is Coming — Andrew Strom

So I'm speaking about a youth revival. I'm speaking about a street revival. I'm speaking about a great reformation that is about to hit the church. That's what I said. I'll talk about that's what I'm going to talk about.

Why Young People Reject Inauthentic Christianity

Now we've heard already tonight an aspect of that. And I want to say to you the reason the youth are not involved in Christianity or do not wish to be involved to the depths that we would love them to be is Because our Christianity is not real and we do not prove that we really mean what we say because we ain't giving our money to the poor and we ain't Selling anything and we're not living as though Jesus Christ is the only thing and we don't have movements, you know in the Western world that challenge everybody to absolutely live for nothing else, but Jesus Christ.

You only live for something you only take up a cause that you're willing to die for if it is so real and so true and so Obviously worth giving everything for and we're not like that in the church so instead of attracting the youth with something called truth and righteousness and a cause worth dying for we have to entertain them in the doors and.

So the only way we're going to get a big crowd of youth today is we put together the best bands. And we put together the best program and we and we have ice skating on Saturday nights and the next week we send them To now we're going on a snowboarding trip and the next weekend.

Oh, man, we're gonna we're going to this film and that film and man. We just entertain them in the doors because we cannot prove that our Jesus is the Jesus of the Bible. We do not stand for truths that people will die for and we do not have a movement.

Where people are putting their life at risk and so our youth are not interested. Because they want to believe in something that's true and real and we give them nothing. We give them fat cat Christianity where we sit and so money into ministries.

I even hate the word we so money into ministries because we expect a fat check back and They even say so money into my ministry. It's good soil. Give us $100 and you'll get $1 ,000 back. The utterly selfish motivation of that Jesus says no.

Do not even let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. You want godly giving? You give in a way where you don't even know. There's something. There's something coming that is far more radical than we've seen in our lifetimes.

The Radical Example of Acts and the Early Salvation Army

There is something coming that is as radical as the book of Acts and as radical as the the early Salvation Army. Which I'm going to be talking about tonight, which is literally the most Radical Christian movement that I've ever discovered.

I've read Revival history for years and years and years. I never came across a movement more radical than the early Salvation Army and They were all about the poor and they're all about giving your life and some of them literally did.

But it's a hundred and twenty years ago. We look at the Salvation Army today, and we just see nothing like that. We see a bunch of old guys and Strange uniforms and we just don't know where it started from.

You know, we haven't got a sense of where all that came from. But first before we go there I just want to look in the Bible at the book of Acts Church because we need a platform to build on and If our Christianity is not like the Christianity in the Bible, well, let's abandon our Christianity because no Christianity is worth dying for unless it's the original thing.

If it wasn't invented by Jesus if the Apostles did not birth our Christianity. Well, take it away. I ain't gonna die for that. I'll die for the one Jesus invented. And Peter and Paul lived and died for that's the Christianity.

I want Acts chapter 2. The church has just begun and it describes what they were like and what happened. It says Acts chapter 2 verse 41 we've already read this last night, but it just says there. About 3 ,000 souls were added to their number in one day.

As says verse 42 they devoted themselves to the Apostles teaching and fellowship the breaking of bread and prayers. And listen to this fear came upon every soul many wonders and signs were done through the Apostles.

All who believed were together. They had all things in common. They sold their possessions and their goods they distributed them to all as any had need and Day by day attending the temple together and that's an interesting thing right there.

Where did these guys meet in the temple? I wish I had my diagram with me that I used to. I used to preach a whole message on on street revivals. Because we don't realize there's a place in the in the huge courtyard of the temple in Jerusalem, which was called Solomon's porch and You'll find Jesus.

It says Jesus preached in Solomon's porch when he was in Jerusalem and the the the the Apostles preached in Solomon's porch. And what was this place? Well, the courtyard was so huge. I mean if you if we look at our windows now, I won't get you to do it.

But you know all around us here is this huge courtyard if you can imagine a courtyard the size of five football fields. Open air and it's the most popular place in Jerusalem. In other words crowds of people going past every day.

That's where they were and Solomon's porch ran along one side of it and it was a huge high kind of overhang about 36 feet up in the air and That they'd stand under that and preach. This is where when it says they went to the temple.

They weren't going to a church. We're going to get this stuff out of our minds. Did they attend church every day? No. They went to street revival every day. They were doing signs and wonders out on the streets.

It says you know that guy who says so they sent him silver and gold. Have I none remember that guy who got healed says he was sitting in the in the gate beautiful. Which is one of the gates into the temple yet.

This was an outdoor miracle that happened in front of thousands of people and it says when they saw the guy healed. I mean, they'd been passing by this guy for ages and he would sit there and beg every day and This guy was suddenly healed and it says everybody ran over to Solomon's porch to hear them preach about it ran over To Solomon's porch to hear them preach.

So they were doing miracles and signs and wonders in front of everybody they had a street revival going. This was an outdoor move of God in the most populated part of Jerusalem. Was called the courtyard of the Gentiles if you ever if you get it if you get one those Bible Dictionary things and look up what the the temple was like in Jesus's day.

You'll see this huge courtyard courtyard of the Gentiles. That's where they made every day. Okay, where were we. So they're selling possessions. They're going to the that temple courtyard every day and it says in verse 46 breaking bread in their homes.

They partook of food with glad and generous hearts. Praising God and having favor with all the people the Lord added to their number daily those who are being saved. When you have a church that looks like Jesus Daily God is adding those who are being saved.

How radical was this? Well, I'll tell you how radical it was. The chief priests arrested Peter and John. Because there's no other way of stopping this movement. They said do not preach in this name again and Literally beat them with rods had them whipped or beaten.

Sent them out again, and they all they just went straight back to preaching in the name of Jesus Christ they weren't going to be stopped and The miracles continued. In fact, the Holy Spirit was poured out again in Acts chapter 4 upon the same people.

So they'd received an outpouring and then not long afterwards another massive outpouring comes down on the same people so much. So that the place they were in was shaken. All right, so it's radical Christianity.

It's a Christianity that you'd give your life for. In fact, they were giving away what they owned any spare things that they owned it says In that come and that they feed the widows daily these guys. Who does God desire us to give to when we're giving?

Often all the way through scripture, you know, see it even says true religion is this. And it talks about the orphans specifically and the widows specifically. So whenever you are in a place where you have money and you want to store up treasure up in heaven.

If you have sold something and it's a spare thing and you you know. You you don't have to replace it. You just sell it and you've got money on your hands. You want to store some treasure up in heaven?

Literally find a Christian such a Situation, you know open doors does this when I was in New Zealand? I mean, I didn't know David in those days. In fact, I knew hardly anybody in the Christian world specifically targeting targeting widows and orphans.

In the Christian sense found open doors was doing it in persecuted country. So I so, you know, I immediately thought oh my goodness. Here's an opportunity to actually obey the scripture. You know, we don't have to give our money to the church.

Where they spend it on staff and buildings. You know, I don't think I'm gonna get much of a good heavenly return out of that. You know Jesus tells us to give to the to the poor and we're giving our money to buildings and staff.

How much treasure in heaven are we going to get? Well, I think it's a pittance of a return and it's like putting your money in the bank with zero point zero zero zero one percent Return and you just don't do it.

You're a wise investor. So you go. Well, I'm gonna get 10 return on this money and I'm gonna find somewhere where it's going to a good cause. You know, isn't it common sense? This is what Jesus is saying store up your treasure in heaven.

Find ways. Christian ways preferably Christian widows and orphans. Okay, Christian widows and orphans in preference. Enough on that subject. We've just heard David preach on it. So I'm not going to go there.

What I'm emphasizing here, you know, Peter and John would walk through. We're not going to look at all these scriptures. But I'm sure you remember Peter and John would walk down the streets and it says as their shadow was passing over people.

They were being healed. So the glory of God was upon them now. We don't have Our movements out where the people are anymore. We don't risk our lives. We don't get thrown into prison. We don't do any of these kinds of things.

Reformation History and Outdoor Awakenings

But I want to tell you that not that long ago in the Western world was a movement that did in fact God tried to Re-establish street revivals quite often down through history and I'll you know We lost Christianity in the Dark Ages most of us know that so what happened was Christianity after the Apostles died just slowly declined and declined and declined until 300 AD when they made a fatal compromise with Rome and said, okay Rome.

Well, if you make us the state religion. In fact Rome came to them the Roman Emperor came to them and said we're gonna make you the state religion. I am gonna become a believer. I am gonna but I want you as a political force on my side and they bought it and He he became the Roman Emperor became in charge of the church to the point where the Dark Ages it got so dark that that that Organization became the primary persecutor of true Christians.

If they could find them they would kill them. As estimated in the tens and hundreds of thousands that the Inquisition killed and They tortured many of them to death. Okay, so the church had gotten so dark so awful and 500 years ago Martin Luther stood up and then we see this great Reformation begin and after that God started bringing revivals back and The one of the greatest revivals is called the first great awakening and it was very largely an outdoor revival.

John Wesley over in England. George Whitfield in America because he was an English man, but he spent so much of his time here and You know, John Wesley would be preaching in the open air to 30 ,000 coal miners.

And it said that you could see the trap trails of their tears down their faces, you know, they're black and faces. They came straight out of the coal mine and there they were Wesley preaching to them 30 ,000 of them just weeping in the open air.

No microphones or amplifiers and They're just listening carefully to every word huge crowds of people. Same thing happened in America during the same period of time Whitfield coming here and thousands would gather out in the open air and This was the first great awakening and it changed the course of nations.

Changed the course of the whole of Western civilization, you know, and the second great awakening in America was another outdoor revival 50 years later, you know God would God. The reason he does things out there where the people are where people can come for free and hear the word.

You know, there's a reason behind that he wants the common people to hear. Says the common people heard Jesus gladly today. It's the religious and respectable people that here something wrong. Something wrong when our Christianity Somehow is based with money, you know so what was the early Salvation Army like, you know, they they came a hundred years after Wesley and there was this guy called William Booth and He was just distraught when he went Into the slums of England.

He just looked around and he said these people never come to church. Look, their whole life is spent either working like a slave and then drinking themselves into oblivion. I Mean, how do we reach these people?

He just looked at the vast vast numbers. He was in the east end of London and He said we've got to do something and he was a Methodist preacher at that time. So he was one of John Wesley's guys, but you see Wesley had been dead or dead a long time his movement had become respectable and and William Booth said I'm gonna leave I'm out of here.

I'm gonna go to those poor people and I'm gonna start a movement. We're gonna do something we've got to reach these people so but they just called it the Christian mission and. And they started several of these Christian missions around Around England where he was at and he just loved Charles Finney's preaching him and his wife.

They just absolutely loved Charles Finney. They loved the American piercing convicting revival preaching that's what they loved and They could see clearly that what they needed was a movement that reached the common people.

Because these guys just didn't come near church. They were disgusted by religion. They didn't live for that. The church had lost the common people. Okay, and so There came a moment in time they're doing kind of well, though.

You know, they weren't doing too badly, but there came a moment in time where they realized you know what we're still not reaching. We're still too conventional. There's something about us that still is not that cause that will die for it still not bringing back that Persecution and Fire and you know, the radicalness is not there.

We're doing the best we can like like a Christian mission should but that's as far as we're getting. We're not reaching really the masses on the scale that we have to because there's millions and millions of them and we never reach them.

By this time they had 50 stations all over England. They're doing well, man. Yeah, and they they decided after a lot of prayer and soul-searching, you know what we need we need to become an army. This is what we've been lacking.

We've got to become an army and if we become an army fighting the devil and fighting poverty and Fighting, you know sin and sickness and getting into the prisons and all that kind of stuff. We become an army something will change and so.

The Salvation Army's Radical Mission

It was in the early 1870s and they literally They were searching for a name. They decided on the Salvation Army. They got they got these banners. Saying blood and fire and that marched down the streets.

They started wearing uniforms and started. You know, but they started attracting this incredibly radical young element into the Salvation Army. Because suddenly the young people saw it and they said hey this is a kind of Christianity we can believe in.

This is a Christianity that risks its its life, you know. They'd be out there on the streets and they found the loudest music they could find. Was called the brass band. The brass band believe it or not.

I've heard a story where five brass bands marched through a town and broke all the windows of the storefronts. With noise. Such was the volume. Radical story. I hope it's true because I repeat it every so often.

Man they were loud. In fact, I've got a quote. Because these guys would go out with brass bands whether they knew how to play or not. See, they really weren't that interested in just the music. They wanted to make such a racket that that attract a crowd.

You know and so there is these stories of the early Salvation Army where they'd go out with these instruments literally held together with string and most of the people in the band could not play in Fact I've got a quote here.

It says it sounds as though a brass band has gone out of its mind. Sounds as though a brass band has gone out of its mind. Listen to this. What would happen and you know? They started getting arrested they started getting arrested on the streets because the clergymen would complain.

That say we cannot see Christianity brought down to the gutter in this manner. You know, of course their response would be well, you know, where are the poor people? Where would Jesus go if he was here?

He'd go to the gutters and rescue those people. He says I come to seek and save that which is lost. I do not go to the righteous. They don't need a doctor. It's the sick who need the doctor. I will go to the ones and they had a policy.

In fact, they had a saying Go for souls and go for the worst. That was their saying as one of their mottos that they had. They also another motto of theirs was our home is in the open air. So they always were out there making a huge racket attracting mobs.

Like mob violence was a fact of life for this early Salvation Army, in fact skeleton armies used to form carrying the skull and crossbones and they would attack them during their meetings and during their marches through the streets and.

So the newspapers got interested and they became a front page story in England. And in fact, wherever they spread around the world, they were so radical. They were getting front page news. And what did they do with that attention they just glorified Jesus.

Remember these guys were not preaching some entertainment gospel. They weren't interested in Attracting people just for the sake of getting numbers. They preached a finny message. They were one of the most repentance oriented holiness movements of their day.

In fact, if you look at guys like Smith Wigglesworth and where he came from he came out of the Salvation Army. Because he always if you look at Smith Wigglesworth's life who became one of the greatest healing guys in the history of the world really.

He was attracted to the most radical Christianity of his day, whatever that was he was there and The Salvation Army for its first 40 years was the most radical Christian movement in history. You know.

They would they were mostly young young guys that the people they sent to start the Salvation Army in New Zealand. We're 19 and 20 years old. Hardly trained but you see William Booth by this time was getting requests from all over the world continuously.

Please send us, you know our. The vast masses of our unreached people remain unreached by the church. We cannot do anything that seems to get the gospel to these people. Please send some of your officers from the Salvation Army to our country and please start something here.

And so he he looked around and he had scant supply left of officers to see and he said well I've got these two guys ones 19 and ones 20. I'll send them. Now New Zealand has two are two main islands North Island and South Island.

So these guys arrived in New Zealand that one said I'll start the top of the North Island and the other guy said, okay I'll start the bottom of the South Island. They said I'll meet you in the middle.

That was the grand strategy. These guys were the nine months had 5 ,000 converts 5 ,000 and In New Zealand, that's a lot. That's a lot and in those days. It was incredible now who opposed them? The clergy they wrote a flurry of leaflets that they put out everywhere saying all these people are just here to You know to bring Christianity down.

They are a circus. They're not worth taking any attention to meanwhile thousands of drunkards and thugs and prisoners are getting saved and Those Anglican and Presbyterian and Methodist and whatever was available at that time.

They weren't saving those people. They weren't even reaching them. They were getting nowhere near them and so around the world these mobs would form it happened in New Zealand and They would count these guys off to prison and the way the Salvation Army got counted off the prison was this they would hold a massive Rally on the way to the jail where they would have brass, but you know.

You'd have the guys that are going to jail, right? They've been arrested. You'd think you'd think everybody would be crying moaning Oh my goodness. We've got these guys our friends are going to jail. Oh, whoa.

Oh, whoa. No, they would not do this. They would say praise God. Let's have this huge rally all the way to the prison and accompany them in and when they get out. We'll have this huge rally all the way back and they'd get like 60 people saved on the way there and 60 people saved on the way back and While the guys were in there, they'd be writing songs that they were going to sing on their way out.

And that was literally happening. In fact a judge. You know a judge and They were arrested they bought before a court judge in New Zealand. He said this he said he advised them to read and meditate on their Bibles a little more to talk less.

To trust less to the hideous clamor of drums and brass instruments. Drums and trumpets are fit accompaniment for a circus but out of place on Sunday in a quiet town like Milton. He told him Okay, so five thousand converts in nine months and these guys had to immediately call for backup.

So they they sent cable grams to General Booth in England saying please reinforce us. This place is just on fire. The same thing was happening around the world. In fact So notorious were the early Salvation Army.

So notorious front-page news everywhere. They went that in India. Because they wouldn't just say oh we're sending a team to India this month. I would say we're sending an invading force to India. We're opening fire on the Indian continent this month and the Indian authorities read that and They had a battalion of troops waiting for these guys like, you know.

Six little guys arriving flags and stuff like that and there's this battalion of troops on the on the pier. Waiting for them to get there. Hallelujah praise the Lord all that stuff, you know met with rifles and and The other radical thing that they did in India.

They immediately went to the outcasts and they started dressing like the like the the outcasts of India. If you ever go to India the down-and-outs man, they're untouchable. But they recognized all the rest of the Hindus have pride but these people have none and if we start there and if we dress like Indian people dress if we if we have a Salvation Army that is Indian and It's in its nature and not just Western Christianity slapped on.

We'll have success and man they did very incredible movement most of the people involved in that movement were young and of course it attracted those who truly had a heart after Giving their lives for truth.

You see we don't attract those kind of people they're out there they're out there in extreme sports and they're out there. They're out there going over and risking their lives in dangerous parts of the world because they look at Christianity and they see this tame and separate thing that doesn't seem to believe even what it says and When our young people finally look at us and see something radical enough that Takes their heart and says well these people really believe it.

Now it wasn't some joke that this ever you listen to the statistics from 1882 in England 669 salvationists that year alone 669 were physically assaulted that means either beaten up or in some cases worse 56 army buildings because they did have buildings they would you know that March somewhere on their March.

You know that these weren't church buildings. They'd like by an old run-down Storefront somewhere and say this is our new Citadel. We're launching the army maneuvers this week. You know in Brighton, and that would be you know everybody and that's your okay.

Anyway, 56 army buildings were wholly or partially wrecked 56 in one year. Skeleton armies, that's what those mobs were called the skull and crossbones guys a lot of them ended up getting converted. You know they'd go and attack and huge mobs these guys were carrying knives chains throwing bricks.

Now they had female officers of the Salvation Army being kicked to death. They had guys who would have what they could call lime they would coat these cloth in lime and and Throw it and if it hits you in the face you were blinded.

This was burning lime. It was like acid. They would throw those things aiming at the Salvation Army. They had like I say officers kicked to death they had people killed. 86 Salvation Army soldiers that year were thrown into prison for causing a disturbance on the streets.

Now who would make those complaints? I'll tell you who would do it the bar owners and the clergyman. These were the enemies of the revival. Absolute enemies of the revival both of them jealous for their own situation.

If these if these clowns if this Christianity takes over this Christianity of the common people. What becomes of my people? Shouldn't I preach against them just on principle just to keep my crowd. Shouldn't I preach against them because they threaten me by being too Christian, and and they show me up.

Yeah, I'll preach against them all right and the bar owners of course are seeing their liquor trade go down the drain. Because nobody's showing up to drink anymore. They're down at the Salvation Army singing you know.

The tough guys that used to walk in and used to come in and drink all night. They no longer come along. They're completely Drink free they don't even touch a drop that was the Salvation Army for you a completely temperate movement, you know.

Not one drop of alcohol would touch their lips once they Came anywhere near the Salvation Army was a one of the major things. I used to preach you on preach on all the time. What about their music well?

Salvation Army would do things like this they would hear the most popular pub songs that were being sung in the pubs. They'd change the words, and they'd be singing it the next day out on the streets with their brass bands that could hardly play.

Doing a kind of semblance rendition of it, you know and So the drunk guy reeling out of the pub, but you know at 10 o 'clock at night would be hearing this very Familiar song, but the words are somehow different.

You know it's glorifying God and saying how mighty God is and he's trying to work out where he's heard that tune before you see. The Wesley's I mean the Wesley brothers were the same. They said why should the devil have all the best music.

In fact Martin Luther was Renowned as the first to utter that. Why should the devil have all the best music and so he would take? The popular songs of his day and change the words and so Charles Wesley 200 years later did the same thing and a hundred years after that you know there's a famous song.

I think the first time William Booth heard this done. There was a song called champagne. Charlie is his name or something the most popular song of the day. And he heard this Christian version of him went whoa.

Hey, that sounds pretty good. Hey, we better use that you know. These guys were interested in reaching the poor. That's all I cared about but when they reached them they never preached entertainment evangelism.

No no. They preached that one of the most piercing holiness messages of any group in history. Because they loved Finney. They were absolutely revivalists to the tea the only difference they had was their means of gaining attention.

It's the only thing that was different so. What of us today? Why am I preaching on this tonight? Well, I'm aware. I've been studying prophetic words and dreams and visions for years. Concerning the coming move of God, and I want to I want to tell you that there is an overriding word.

About a youth revival coming. There is an a massive word even about that. It's going to be similar. It's going to have new music and It's and there is a famous set of dreams. Which many many Christian musicians picked up on about ten years ago including us.

As we had street bands and stuff all kinds of things going at that time when we heard it We were just struck instantly by it called the sons of thunder. Some of you may have heard of it. Now that went everywhere in Christian circles because every musician that read it went.

Yes. That is so true and it literally in these series of dreams. It's by a guy called James Ryle that Jackie. And I know we ended up ministering with him in Australia one time and it was our pleasure to hear over and over again these dreams that God had given him that was so famous and so In this dream.

The significant ones of this is that he's he's looking at a stage and he says it's like fishing lines are being cast out. He says it's the harvest the harvest has come the time for harvesting. You know all of the people that need to be saved in our generation and he said what they were doing.

He saw these two blue guitars on stage and the blue guitars Represented a new sound that Sounded as fresh and he said it was God likened it to him to the Beatles music when it first came. He said when you heard a Beatles song on the radio in the 1960s.

If you you know, some of you are old enough to remember this. Oh, well, you know, I'm not. I was born too late to remember what it was like when the when the Beatles first appeared on the Ed Sullivan show.

Where literally I believe it had the highest rating of any show in history. I believe 70 million people watched that one broadcast the Beatles arriving and He saw this in a vision. He said it was like the Beatles music all over again.

But it was different than that because it was glorifying Jesus and it was like the harvest was being reeled in by this music that was being played. He said it was a new sound and he couldn't He could tell that the musicians that were playing it were excited by it.

They knew there was something new in it and And another vision that he had another dream actually they weren't visions they were in the in the night he had no influence whatsoever about what God was giving him and He was he just wrote them down.

You know He had a whole series of them over a period of a couple of months and then one of the other ones that came a man in an ancient Salvation Army uniform. I get emotional about this. I don't know why a Man in a in a Salvation Army uniform, you know when I heard this it's the first time in my life I'm a musician that's been involved in this stuff for years and This is the only time I've ever heard a tape and actually fallen on the ground.

Literally, I fell. I've never ever. In fact, I've never been prayed for and fallen over. I've never in my life been slain in the spirit. None of that and I didn't fall right over and go unconscious but Such was the impact of this dream.

It's the only time in my life. I have heard something and I fell on the ground just in shock and recognition. That this man was speaking something so profoundly true and that was a calling in my life.

You know My wife Jackie and I we've we've been in and We've been in pub bands. We've played we've toured, you know one time where we were basically full-time musicians. It was literally the poorest I've ever been in my life.

In New Zealand, you do not get rich playing music. Even the famous guys are struggling in New Zealand. It's a country of four million people, you know has a lot of musicians very struggling musicians anyway.

So, you know we were living the life we had we had outreach bands. We had I'd investigated the early Salvation Army and in this dream this guy this early Salvation Army guy. Literally hands him a scroll and and he opens the scroll and it says in the last days and the last days there will be an army of worshiping warriors like the Salvation Army and they'll bring I Think it was repentance to the streets or bring the glory of God to the streets again.

Like in the old days and he was handed that by this early Salvation Army guy. As you can tell I even have trouble talking about it because that was the the impact of those words on me being a guy Who just lived for this stuff and studied the early Salvation Army and all the other revivals.

It was like someone was getting a hammer and just whacking me with the very thing that I was into. There's profound significance in this. But you see I'll put it aside for the last few years as I was saying to you I hardly I never preach on this topic anymore.

Because it was apparent to me the season was wrong. We'd go out on the streets. We had we had street teams with ex-gang members in them. I had I had guys involved with us who have Full face moku tattoos in New Zealand these guys man.

They looked apart. You know people think people think I look rough. People sometimes mistake me for a guy that you know, if I stand by the door at some places people think I'm the bouncer. I don't think I'm the preacher.

They go they go we'll just skirt around that guy because he's obviously here to throw Troublemakers out, you know, I used to look even worse than I do now. I'm quite tame actually. But you know, we had guys involved with us that were literally Ex, you know the worst gangs in my country ex-black power and ex-mongrel mob and these some of these guys had you know full face tattoos or hold back tattoos.