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Is Israel our greatest ally as American politicians and commentators like to say? Is Israel an ally at all?

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You're listening to Radio Looks Lucid. I'm your host Steve Matthews. Thanks for joining me for episode 115. The title of this episode is
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Our Greatest Ally. Well I hope everybody's been having a good week this week and I know it's been a little while since I've been on here so it's good to be back in the saddle so to speak and I have a chance to to talk with you a little bit about the the events here of the day.
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I've taken a little break here from talking about immigration and all that. Not that I think that that's not a big deal.
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I think it is. It very much is. In fact I think it's one of the maybe the biggest story going on is the the attempt by the
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Roman Church state the the Antichrist Roman Church state to essentially subvert our our
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American Republic and not just the the American Republic but this is something that's going on throughout the western world.
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As we've talked about many times we know that that Rome that Antichrist hates sovereign or independent nation states.
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It hates the Westphalian world order that was established at the end of the 30 years war.
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The Protestants defeated the the Roman Catholic forces. So we know that that's that's going on.
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They're pursuing their policy of irredentism. That's the the policy of flooding a nation with people and eventually taking it over.
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That is that's a deliberate policy of Rome. I'm not going to talk about that today. What I want to discuss in a little bit more detail something
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I talked about last time and I think it bears some additional commentary here and that is the the situation going on with the the war in the
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Middle East in particular what's going on with Israel and in Gaza and and some of that and and not even really so much the war itself because that's that in my opinion is secondary to my purposes here.
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What I do want to talk about is the the actions and reactions here that are going on in the
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United States to this and and how all that relates to the Constitution to our our our
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God -given constitutionally guaranteed guaranteed right of free speech. There are a lot of people that very much do not think that any criticism of Israel should be allowed and if somebody criticizes
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Israel they immediately resort the Israel lobby immediately resorts to calling them names and some actually fairly terrible names to be sure and and on top of that you know there are there are penalties to be faced.
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I mean people are have been doxxed by the Israel lobby, Israeli partisans, people have lost their jobs over that, students have have had their names paraded around all over the internet, college presidents have been fired because of it, these sorts of things and I think there is a real problem.
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There's a growing movement in the United States among many governors to try to pass laws that prohibit people or limit the ability of people to criticize
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Israel, to criticize Jews or Zionists of various stripes and the fact of the matter is nobody is above criticism.
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No nation is above criticism and certainly Israel is is not above criticism or should not be but there are a lot of people, some of them regrettably are
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Christians, who are of the opinion that criticism of Israel should be silenced and that you're not allowed to to bring up any issues.
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So I wanted to to talk today, I titled today's episode Our Greatest Ally because that is very commonly what it's called.
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I mean you see politicians in the newspapers very often refer to Israel as our greatest ally and I think
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I'd like to examine that and it's what's interesting I think this would surprise a lot of people is that if you go by the actual definition of ally
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Israel is not an ally of the United States at all, let alone our greatest ally. That may probably come as a surprise to a lot of people to hear that but hear me out on this and first of all let's take a look and I wanted to first of all let's see here are we doing here okay so I looked up the definition of ally now
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I just pulled this off of a Merriam -Webster dictionary the site online and the first definition of ally it gives is a verb but we're not interested in the verb what we are interested in is the noun the definition of the noun ally you know
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Israel's our greatest ally we're told but let's see what the definition is here so the very first definition of an ally is a sovereign or state associated with another by treaty or league so in order for a country to be an ally of the
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United States there has to be a treaty between the United States and that that other nation well this raises the question then is there a treaty between the
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United States and in Israel and the answer to that question is no and again they may surprise some people here but I wanted to to go with you here's a here's a an article these aren't my favorite people in the world this is actually the from a publication called foreign policy it's put out by the council on foreign relations they're a bunch of globalists but they do have some some reasonably sound work that they put out but I think this is a this is a a
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I think a very telling article this was published in 2019 and it has a headline it says should the
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United States and Israel make it official the United States and Israel call themselves allies but they don't have a formal defense treaty governing their relationship there's no treaty between the
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United States and Israel so in the strictest sense of the term Israel is not not only is not the greatest ally of the
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United States it's not an ally at all it's not an ally at all in the the the the proper sense of the term and if you you read down through this let's see there were some interesting comments on this let me do a little bit of a search here can't type here let's try that again there we go um let's take a look here they always
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I find these things and then I go back to look at them and then I can't find what I want there's some kind of uh some kind of a uh
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I don't know a uh Murphy's law about that right so it says here it says it is odd indeed that the
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United States and Israel are not parties to a defense treaty the relationship has long been dubbed an alliance and Israel is often characterized in U .S.
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discourse as an ally in the way that the sea is always wine dark and Achilles is always fleet -footed in Homeric myth yet strictly speaking allies are states that have entered a treaty relationship with each other and there is no such treaty between the
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United States and Israel so notice here the definition they give in this article is the same definition as Merriam -Webster gave you know a an ally you know is let's go back to the
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Merriam -Webster definition an ally is a sovereign state or state associated with another by treaty or league and we come over here to the article in foreign policy magazine and it says here yet strictly speaking allies are states that have entered a treaty relationship with one another okay so I mean it's the same definition slightly different words but they're giving the same definition and crucially and this is what foreign policy says here crucially and there is no such relationship between the
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United States and Israel so I would maintain that not only is Israel not the greatest ally of the
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United States it's not an ally at all certainly in a formal sense and I would even argue it's not even in not even an ally in let's suppose we wanted to broaden the definition of ally and just say countries maybe that are maybe friendly to the
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United States I'm not even really sure that that Israel is all that friendly to the United States you know there have been a long history of problems with the between the
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United States and Israel just take a look at a few of these things here here's a this is an article from Newsweek now this goes back to oh this is a few years old but it's not that old oh well 2014 so it's about 10 years old but still
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I mean I think this is a legitimate headline says Israel won't stop spying on the U .S. you know whatever happened to honor among thieves when a national security agency was caught eavesdropping on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's cell phone it was considered a rude way to treat a friend well yes it was now
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U .S. intelligence officials are saying albeit very quietly behind closed doors on Capitol Hill that our
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Israeli quote friends have gone too far with their spying operations here here's another article now this one's from this is also 2014
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Israel flagged as top spy threat to U .S. in new Snowden NSA document and this is quoting from the article
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Israel was singled out in 2007 as a top espionage threat against the U .S. government including its intelligence services in a newly published national security agency
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NSA document obtained by fugitive leaker Edward Snowden according to a news report Monday so they are a top espionage threat against the
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U .S. government that is Israel is that doesn't really sound like any kind of an ally or friend to me now here's another another example of what
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I mean by the troubled relationship between Israel and the United States here's an article this is some counterpunch now counterpunch is kind of a lefty group but I think they give a this is a good article here and some 2018 it says
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Israel's attack on the USS Liberty a half century later still no justice now how many of you listening to this have actually heard of the
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USS Liberty incident probably very few Americans know about the USS Liberty well in 1967
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Israel fighter jets and torpedo boats attacked a U .S.
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and American ship clearly labeled as an American ship in international waters in the Mediterranean and caused enormous damage to the ship
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I think there was 30 some I was 32 30 some anyway American sailors were killed in that by this
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Israeli sustained Israeli attack it wasn't just like a one -shot thing there were waves of fighter jets that attacked this plane there were torpedo boats let's read a little bit about the
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USS Liberty in early June of 1967 the onset of the six -day war the Pentagon sent the
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USS Liberty from Spain into international waters off the coast of Gaza to monitor the progress of Israel's attack on the
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Arab states the Liberty was a lightly armed surveillance ship only hours after the Liberty arrived it was spotted by the
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Israeli military the IDF that's the Israeli Defense Force sent out reconnaissance planes to identify the ship they made eight trips over a period of three hours the
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Liberty was flying a large U .S. flag and was easily recognizable as an American vessel soon more planes came these were
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Israeli Mirage 3 fighters armed with rockets and machine guns as off -duty officers sunbathed on a deck the fighters opened fire on the defenseless ship with rockets and machine guns a few minutes later a second wave of planes streaked overhead
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French built Mystere jets which not only pelted the ship with gunfire but also with napalm bomblets coating the deck with the flaming with flaming jelly by now the
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Liberty was on fire and dozens were wounded and killed excluding several of the ship's top officers the
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Liberty's radio team tried to issue a distress call but discovered the frequencies had been jammed by the Israeli planes with a one communication specialist called a buzzsaw sound finally an open channel was found and Liberty got out a message it was under attack to the
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USS America the six fleets large aircraft carrier two F -4s left the carrier to come to Liberty's aid apparently the
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Jeps are armed only with nuclear weapons and well I'm not going to repeat what Robert McNamara the defense secretary said but he called the jets back of course why didn't they send other jets if they they had inappropriately armed jets but apparently they never sent any more jets armed with means of defending the ship after the
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Israeli fighter jets had emptied their arsenal of rockets three Israeli attack boats approached Liberty two torpedoes were launched the crippled ship one tore a 40 -foot wide hole in the hull flooding the lower compartments and killing more than a dozen
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American sailors as the Liberty listed in the choppy flames its deck of flame crew members dropped life wraps in the water and prepared to scuttle the ship given the number of wounded this was going to be a dangerous operation but it soon proved impossible as Israeli attack boats straffed the rest with machine gun fire nobody was going to get out alive that way after more than two hours of unremitting assault the
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Israelis finally halted their attack one of the torpedo boats approached the Liberty and officer asked in English over a boar horn do you want do you want any help this is an
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Israeli ship after they've been shooting up the the American ship for a while and I'm not going to repeat what the the
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American captain had to say about that we we want to keep this as a family -friendly
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Christian show but he was let's just say the the American captain was was not very happy and he had some some rude things to say to the
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Israelis and I can't say that I terribly blame him for for his strong feelings interesting here it says a
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Soviet destroyer responded before the U .S. Navy so you know this is back during the Cold War you know and a
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Soviet destroyer actually managed to go there and ask if they needed any help and the Liberty's the officer refused an officer from the
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U .S. ship and finally 16 hours after the attack two U .S. destroyers reached the Liberty by that time 34
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U .S. sailors were dead and 174 injured many seriously as the wounded were being evacuated an officer from the
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Office of Naval Intelligence instructed the men not to talk about their ordeal with the press and that's the beginning of the cover -up and there's been a cover -up about this ever since a lot of secrecy a lot of a lot of nonsense and the the whole episode has been largely suppressed by by the
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American press you know something else and I should have gotten this out and and I didn't is the the story about the the dancing
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Israelis in fact let me see maybe I can find something quickly here remember 9 -11 let's see yeah here we go here's a here's an article maybe we can get this on here quickly okay this is in the
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UN's review it says the dancing Israeli FBI doc shed light on apparent
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Mossad for knowledge of 9 -11 attacks this is an article from 2019 so apparently the it appears that the
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Mossad knew knew that 9 -11 was going to take place and there was a story and I remember reading reading or seeing this in fact
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I think it was Fox News Carl Cameron reported on this I don't know if it was the same day you know 9 -11 or if it was a maybe within a day or two after that but it was sometime very close to when that that attack on the
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World Trade Centers took place and there were these stories about these these dancing these guys they were they were over on the the
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New Jersey side so they were looking at lower Manhattan they had a perfect view of it and the when the the planes hit they were literally dancing and high -fiving it and having a great time and some of the residents there saw this and they reported these people and and you know they apparently they pulled out they they took off in a van and eventually they were pulled over by the
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New Jersey State Police well it turned out that several of them had
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Mossad connections they were Israelis and some of them had connections with Mossad the Mossad as you may know the
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Mossad is the Israeli spy agency that's basically equivalent to the CIA let's read just a little bit of this here this is from the article for nearly two decades one of the most overlooked and little -known arrests made in the aftermath of the
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September 11th attacks was that of the so -called high -fivers or dancing Israelis however new information released by the
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FBI May 7th has brought fresh scrutiny to the possibility that the dancing Israelis at least two of whom were known
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Mossad operatives had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center shortly after 8 46 a .m
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on the day of the attacks just minutes after the first plane struck the World Trade Center five men later revealed to be
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Israeli nationals had positioned themselves in the parking lot of the Doric apartment complex in Union City, New Jersey where they were seen taking pictures and filming the attack while also celebrating the destruction of the towers and high -fiving each other at least one eyewitness interviewed by the
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FBI had seen the Israelis van had seen the Israelis van in the parking lot as early as 8 a .m
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that day more than 40 minutes prior to the attack the story received coverage in U .S. mainstream media at the time but has since been largely forgotten the men
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Sivan Kurtzberg, Paul Kurtzberg, Oded Elner, Yaron Shmuel, and Omar Marmari were subsequently apprehended by law enforcement and claimed to be
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Israeli tourists on a working holiday in the United States where they were employed by a moving company
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Urban Moving Systems upon his arrest Sivan Kurtzberg told the arresting officers we are
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Israeli we are not your problem your problems are our problems the Palestinians are the problem end quote so these were the dancing
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Israelis and you know the you know the thing that was funny is the people that saw this they didn't realize that they were
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Israelis it came as a big shock when these guys were arrested later on 9 -11 it turns out they were all five
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Israelis and it is the article note here two of whom had known Mossad connections so there has been you know to say the least some very bad behavior on the the the part of Israel toward the
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United States and yet our politicians continually call them not just an ally even though there's no treaty between the
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U .S. and Israel but our greatest ally and I think there's a big problem here
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I want to reference something and this goes to an article that was written by John Robbins one of my favorite articles that he's done and that's saying quite a bit because I love
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John Robbins work this is a work it's titled the
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Religious Wars of the 21st Century and I want to read oops click the wrong thing there let's try this again
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I want to read a few excerpts out of this let's see here so this is
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John Robbins and he writes the result of two centuries of irrationalism is that at the beginning of the 21st century this was article was written in 2006 we are faced not with a hopeful prospect with an even more dismal prospect than our great grandfathers faced 100 years ago the last 100 years has seen the resurgence of medieval romanism and the emergence of romanist zlot organizations such as opus day medieval romanism is not just confined to the roman catholic church state and thousands of educational institutions but has gained many adherents among nominal protestants as well the prolific authors
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Norman Geisler and R .C. Sproul and many lesser -known protestant theologians and philosophers as well are disciples of the philosopher of the roman church state thomas aquinas their influences misled most protestants away from a biblical and reformed view of philosophy and apologetics and into a compromise with rome medieval islam now usually called fundamentalist islam and medieval judaism with the establishment of the modern state of israel in 1948 are on the rise as well all three religions romanism islam and judaism are false militant and violent devout members of each group hate oppose and plot against members of the other two but today the date is 2006 not 1006 and true and the true believers of each of these medieval religions has have access to nuclear biological chemical and electromagnetic weapons and he continues here john robbins does barring dramatic divine intervention such as a new reformation or a second coming of christ the wars of the 21st century will be religious wars they will be worse than the secular wars of the 20th century the three principal protagonist will be the three medieval religions that have warred with each other for centuries that is romanism judaism and in islam already the battles have begun it is important to realize that the christian has no dog in this fight neither romanism nor judaism nor islam is christianity yet many who profess to be christian support either judaism or romanism the so -called christian right of the united states influenced by romanism dispensationalism and reconstructionism has been a supporter of israel judaism and rome for decades the principal figures of the american conservative movement have been romanist though their source of funds has largely been protestant the principal figures of the so -called neo -conservatives neocons are jews the u .s
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government in violation of the u .s constitution has taken tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars from american taxpayers and given them to the government of israel over the past 50 years we have fought wars and spent billions trying to prop up various roman catholic dictatorships more recently the u .s
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government started sending money taken by force from the american people to arab and muslim nations as well the conservative movement in the united states has abandoned the american and biblical foreign policy of strategic independence pursued by our government since 1776 for a policy of global interventionism that has angered many foreign nations and peoples most recently the muslims because christianity is neither romanism nor judaism nor islam there is no need for the united states a historically if not currently christian nation to be involved in the religious wars of the 21st century but because of the influence of american citizens and non -citizens who are jews catholics and dispensational evangelicals we are already involved in fact because our foreign policy of intervention developed in the 20th century and because of more recent policy of preemptive war the united states has become the primary target of militant muslims worldwide and not of muslims only agents of both israel and rome are active in the united states both gathering intelligence and influencing foreign policy the u .s
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government is manipulated by foreign interests both israel and the vatican see the united states as their proxy in this religious war and and i think that's especially for our purposes here and i want to just reread those last two sentences notice what john robin says here agents of both israel and rome are active in the united states both gathering intelligence and influencing policy the u .s
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government is manipulated by foreign interests both israel and the vatican see the united states as a proxy in their religious war and that's exactly what we're seeing going on right now with this dust up going on um in uh between israel and in gaza israel and hamas however you want to put it uh and surrounding nations not just israel and hamas i mean israel has been attacking into syria into lebanon uh into iran um and the uh it has gotten a lot of reaction in the united states i mean you've you've seen some of these these uh student protests for example at at these various universities and a lot of people have gotten um there's been a lot of a lot of commentary on that uh and in some cases they've actually these uh these protests have been broken up um somewhat violently there was uh some of that going on at the university of texas uh earlier this week and uh governor greg abbotson in the the texas national guard um and they uh they end up breaking up the protests and apparently it was you know i saw some video of it and uh and they were uh they were being kind of hard on these students they were they were pretty rough on them and the thing that's interesting is i mean you hear a lot of screaming and screeching from the israeli partisans the united states about uh all the the threats and anti -semitism and these sorts of things that that have gone supposedly gone on and violence and yet there's i i don't see any videos of that sort of thing you know it's it's actually uh it's pretty interesting in fact there was i'm gonna see if i can find this there was a oh there was somebody a commentator i was talking about just just the other day and and he was talking about the the fact that the the dearth or the absence really entirely of uh of any sort of uh violence uh that was taking place on these protests uh it's so yeah yeah yeah here we go here we go uh this is it right here the z blog and and what he does well that's kind of got something else going here well i'll just read it here it says how many jewish students have been hospitalized at columbia during these protests how many anti -israeli protesters have been arrested for assaulting jewish students on campus other than hurt feelings has anyone on either side been harmed and and that's a question that he asks and in from my observation anyway and i could be wrong i mean this is still ongoing i mean who knows what's happened here um just within the last hour i i don't know but if there were large -scale assaults um if there was um you know so some really serious stuff going on you would see people being arrested for assaulting jewish students you would see people um uh you know you would see video if not necessarily arrested you would certainly see videos of it i mean the the israeli partisans the united states would be making a huge deal about this you these videos would be plastered all over the internet and yet there aren't any you know i hear a lot of talk about it but i don't see any video evidence of it and and i can guarantee you if that stuff were going on you would see video evidence of it and there isn't any and and that strongly suggests to me that a lot of this stuff is just a hoax you know these are just lies uh that are being put out in the media by uh by israel uh partisans of israel by the israel lobby uh and that's a that's a real concern because as i said before as as americans you know we have a thing called a first amendment and you know the the first amendment is you know says that you have a god -given right god -given constitutionally guaranteed right to protest uh you can protest donald trump you can protest the united states of america you can um you can protest christians you know you can can denounce christian doctrine you know and i mean of course as a christian you know i'm kind of used to that sort of thing um you know our president loves to uh to uh denounce in particular uh white white conservative white white christians you know he wants to talk you know tell us that we're all a bunch of uh very terrible people and call us terrible names um he has a right to do that i think that it's very foolish in fact i think it's quite dangerous when that stuff's coming from the president historically presidents have not uh said those sorts of things um about uh the american people and i mean i think that's extremely dangerous what he's doing uh but certainly you know he has a constitutional right to express that is dangerous as i think what he's saying is um but the uh but you as you know as private citizens you have a right to do this now you can say okay columbia is a private university and they can have their own speech code well yeah they they can do that uh they can do that but the the the fact of the matter is historically that universities have been places for free speech i mean if not if you can't have free speech at university if you can't discuss ideas at a university where can you discuss them i mean universities should be places where you can have these kinds of discussions and you're not allowed to discuss that uh apparently you know there there are some people who don't think you should have that right to do that at columbia university um i think it's interesting too you know some people will try to say you know go after these protesters say well you know they're a bunch of bunch of wokesters and these sorts of things you know the fact of the matter is these protesters you know they they probably are uh a bunch of wokesters you know they're probably people that uh you know from from my standpoint i don't think that i would would have a lot of agreement with them uh ideologically but i do agree with their right to protest they have a right to peacefully protest now you do not have a right to assault people you do not have a right to incite violence you do not have a right to destroy property you don't have a right to do those things those things aren't covered by the free speech but you do have a right to peacefully protest against the actions of the israeli government you have a right to criticize israel you have a right to criticize zionist jews you have a right to criticize anybody that you want to for any reason you want to you're allowed to do that you're allowed to be wrong you know you're allowed to state opinions that are wrong under the first amendment you are allowed to do this and of course people are allowed to criticize you back too you know that's one of the wonderful things about the first amendment you know that that that first amendment right to free speech is absolutely crucial to a free society that's why it's the first amendment and as christians that's something we ought to strongly support the the first amendment ensures that we are able to preach the gospel of jesus christ the gospel of justification by faith alone ensures that we're able to do that and we grant other people the right to express their ideas and it's a wonderful thing you know there's there's a lot of problems in the united states of america but it's a wonderful thing we still do have that still technically governed by the constitution and we have a long history of upholding those types of things but one of the big concerns that i have about the israel lobby in the united states is that they are very aggressively trying to shut down free speech they're trying to chip away at it they're not going to be able to do it all at once but they're kind of just chip chip chip chipping away at it a little bit at a time i uh it was in an article i wrote on my blog a month or two maybe about a month back so i was talking about governor christy noem in the uh state of south dakota she signed a law that the allowed the state the the state adopted the international holocaust remembrance i i h r a and international holocaust what remembrance association or alliance and i apologize i'm not getting it exactly right but there's an organization that's put out a definition of anti -semitism and it was adopted by the um by the state of south dakota um the governor of of uh of texas greg abbott he recently signed an executive order that was prohibiting um you know some sort of anti -semitism thing and you know lo and behold you know they they sent the texas national guard and into uh the uh the university of texas and uh broke up uh from what i've been able to tell as far as i know a a peaceful protest by the students against the government of israel and you know this you know he was was accusing him of anti -semitism blah you know and this that and the other thing and it was probably done you know using that executive order as a basis you know that he ordered the the texas national guard in and you know one of the things that struck me is he showed a lot more energy and aggressiveness in dealing with uh a uh the student protesters the university than he has in all of his time in dealing with stopping the uh the illegal alien invasion i mean my my perception of greg abbott is that he's kind of you know he he puts up he he does the minimal that minimum that he needs to do to kind of appease his voting block but you know he doesn't strike me as someone who's actually serious about addressing the the problem on the texas border but he was very aggressive about going after students who protested israel something else that was very a little bit shocking to me you know that has come out about some of these uh these student protests is uh is that the uh and this was true apparently and uh you know i've seen some reports on this and i i tend to believe that they are they are accurate reports and that there are snipers that were on the rooftop at both ohio the uh ohio state university and indiana university i've got that up there uh that's it's the uh there's a an image right there um i think this was in the anniversary it shows a sniper on the roof and then here's uh here's ohio state and apparently they're yeah i mean it looks like there's uh uh apparently a sniper up there you can see the one in indiana i guess this is indiana it's very clear that he has a rifle and and you ask yourself why you know i don't know what government agency is sending these people there uh to these universities uh and put snipers on the roof um that's a big problem i think that's very concerning uh but yeah i mean one thing you know i mean we all remember back in 2020 i mean you had antifa and blm running around burning cities down coast to coast beating people up bashing in windows setting fires doing all kinds of damage i mean i've i've seen estimates of like two billion dollars in damages and that was just allowed to go on month after month after month but oh boy you you you protest israel wow now now we're going to get serious now we're going to start cracking skulls and and that is a huge problem israel is a foreign nation you know and i think there seem to be this is especially a problem with dispensationalist evangelicals uh and and really um i would say jewish zionists as well they can't seem to distinguish between the united states and israel uh they seem to think somehow that they're the same country uh they are not the same country and what's going on over there in israel is really none of the business of the united states and i don't want to have to pay for it and frankly i don't want to hear about it um and yet this stuff is being pushed on us and pushed on us and pushed on us think about mike johnson the current republican speaker of the house this first act after he was elected is he wanted to pass some resolution for our dear friends israel you know it wasn't dealing with the border it wasn't dealing with the enormous debt that the government is piling up it wasn't dealing with any of the economic issues that we have here in the united states no it was something for a foreign nation was for israel well that's ridiculous and and and i think back to uh you know to what john robbins wrote i'm going to read that again here says agents of both israel and rome are active in the united states both gathering intelligence well you know we talked about all the spying that israel has done gathering intelligence and influencing policy well there's an example of influencing policy and and not only they're influencing on on the the federal level with mike johnson but we've talked about how they're influencing policy on the state level as well um in in ohio and in about two -thirds of the states you cannot do uh business with the state of ohio you know it's made me like you're a like that you cannot do business with a the state of ohio unless you sign an agreement promising that you will not boycott disinvest or sanction israel well essentially that's taking a loyalty oath to the state of israel why do you why does an american citizen have to take a loyalty oath the state of israel to do business with the state of ohio that is outrageous and all such laws should be repealed and probably most people in ohio don't know about that um i've written about this uh this type of thing in on my blog um let's see here i want to see this is one of these things that i i guess i probably should have uh accesses and got this set up before i started my uh my live stream here but i'm going to take a look here at at something and see oh let's see what we got here um there there is some very interesting stories there's a lot of this uh type of thing in texas texas also has that same kind of law as it as uh as we have here in ohio but there is even a uh let's see there was a uh a really outrageous story that was out a few years ago where um there were people in texas and i can remember some town in texas when they got hit with that hurricane back in 27 there was a hurricane harvey i think it was um and they had to sign a a loyalty oath to israel to get relief yeah here it is yeah here's the story here in fact this is from newsweek um it's dated october 20th 2017 hurricane victims must support israel to get relief texas city demands and i read through here residents of one texas city are being asked to sign a loyalty oath to israel if they want to receive funds for hurricane harvey relief and civil liberties experts say the are saying the approach is illegal the city of dickinson is applying a pro is applying a pro -israel state law to storm relief demanding any citizen or company seeking relief money from the city's harvey relief fund promised to never boycott israel well if you're an american citizen and you want to boycott sanction or disinvest israel with your own time and your own money you have every right to boycott sanction and disinvest in israel you have every right to do that and it is i think an outrage that states for instance like in texas or in ohio or in many other states that they pass these kinds of laws and require this sort of thing from their citizens i mean you could sit here and denounce the united states of america all day long you can still get your relief you can still go and contract with state of ohio but if you you you denounce israel you question israel you boycott disinvest or sanction israel you're in a world of trouble i have a big problem with that um that we have this kind of of influence from a foreign nation on american policy now this is a serious problem and it needs to stop and i think a lot of it is that i think a lot of americans don't even know this stuff's going on that these kinds of laws are being passed um and and once it gets passed in one state they they they use that as a model legislation to spread it to other states and in fact uh christy noem about her adopting her uh the the state of south dakota about adopting the uh the definition of of anti -semitism the uh they they called it she called it model legislation you know and so it's going to be rolled out to a state near you too um so then you're going to have uh potentially more restrictions on your ability to exercise your second amendment rights or excuse me first amendment rights this is a huge problem and you know this is the kind of thing you know that as christians we should be pushing back on but too many christians have been sucked into this this dispensationalist uh view of view of israel and that somehow that american christians have an obligation to support the nation state of israel there is no such obligation and in fact i i would argue that when christians support the state of israel they're actually sinning by doing so they're associating themselves with false religion uh pushing a false and violent philosophy john robbins called it called it that you talked about you know medieval judaism it was a violent religion and it is i mean you can see the violence right over there in gaza right now um the the massive massive civilian death toll that has taken place in gaza he says and just i'll go back and quote john robbins again all three religions romanism islam and judaism are false militant and violent and you can see the violence in judaism right now um you know there are people that were uh you know that uh after the uh the hamas attack back on october 7th they were saying to to glass glass gaza well what they mean by that they meant to nuke them you know the drop the nukes you know turns all the sand to glass supposedly you know and that's what they were saying in fact that that uh that lunatic uh uh nicky haley uh was out there saying that kind of garbage um and uh yeah it's it's uh these are violent religions and yet they have a tremendous amount of influence on u .s
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policy and and that's that is a uh is a very dangerous thing uh for the united states of america and i think that's probably a good place to leave it i've been going on longer than what i thought it's about 45 minutes wow i didn't think i was gonna have that much material today anyway um that's sort of an introduction to uh to this whole issue uh regarding regarding israel regarding a the stance of the united states toward israel to foreign countries um i hope that was a little bit of history maybe made uh made things that'll make a little bit more sense to you and and kind of made perhaps gave you a few new things to think about i think that this is is a relationship between the u .s