WWUTT 2625 Q&A Sinners Prayer, Daniel Movie, Torah Observant, Church of God

The Problem with Sinner's Prayer Evangelism

What is the problem with the sinner's prayer? Is the upcoming Daniel movie going to be biblical? And what do we need to watch out for with Torah observant teaching? The answers to these questions and others when we understand the text.

This is when we understand the text, a daily Bible teaching in the word of Christ that we may grow in our devotion to God. Tell your friends about our ministry at www .utt .com. Here once again is Pastor Gabe.

Thank you, Becky. You're welcome. Today is 62626. Oh, really? That is the date, yes. I had no idea. So I thought I would go to Psalm 62. Awesome. We'll start with that. For God alone, my soul waits in silence.

From him comes my salvation. He alone is my rock and my salvation, my fortress. I shall not be greatly shaken. How long will all of you attack a man to batter him? Like a leaning wall, a tottering fence.

They only plan to thrust him down from his high position. They take pleasure in falsehood. They bless with their mouths, but inwardly they curse. Selah. For God alone, oh my soul, wait in silence. For my hope is from him.

He only is my rock and my salvation, my fortress. I shall not be shaken. On God rests my salvation and my glory, my mighty rock. My refuge is God. Trust in him at all times, oh people. Pour out your heart before him.

God is a refuge for us. Selah. Welcome to the Friday edition of When We Understand the Text. When we take questions from the listeners, my wife is making faces at her phone. What are you doing? Well, our children are away.

I looked over at you and you're clearly not here. You are making faces at your phone. I was, I was listening.

Okay, gotcha. But I was making faces because I took my glasses off too soon. I was not expecting a response. And so, you know. You're trying to read it and can't. Yeah, well, I mean, through squinty eyes I can.

So yes, this being the Friday edition, we take questions from the listeners and you can send those questions to whenweunderstandthetext at gmail .com or go to www .utt .com, click on the voicemail tab, ask a question via voicemail.

You got about 90 seconds to record it there. And I do have a voicemail to get to here in just a moment. It's been a couple of weeks for you.

It has, I think, at least one.

We didn't have a Friday episode last week. Oh, yeah. It's been out for most of the week. So I think that, I was thinking about this yesterday. I think that I just had the busiest Sunday I've ever done.

Yeah, I think you're right. On Father's Day. I think it was the busiest Sunday. And that's saying a lot. That is saying a lot, like ever. Coming up on 16 years since my ordination. I mean, I had a band, we traveled around.

I would do a concert at a church, like on a Saturday night, and then I'd preach there on Sunday morning. But I wouldn't have to set up and tear down sound on Sunday morning. The church already had all of that.

So lately, since we've been meeting at a local middle school, like a multi-purpose room, it's like their cafeteria slash auditorium. What do you call it, cafetorium? Sure. Yeah, so that's where we've been meeting because we've outgrown our building.

So we need a little bit larger facility. And we have a trailer that has all of the sound equipment and everything in it. And I hook up the trailer to my pickup. Every Sunday morning, we take it over to the middle school.

We have an hour to unload, set up. Sunday school starts at nine. We get done with church at noon, tear down, load it back in the trailer. I take it back over to the church and I leave it there. So this past Sunday, I had to do all of that.

Now I've had, like I said, this is saying a lot because I've had really, really busy Sundays. Yes. Obviously as a pastor, many pastors have a lot of busy Sundays. There's been, when I was a pastor at Providence Church in Junction City, there were Sundays where I was preaching and leading the worship.

And then I might do Sunday evening or something like that. Sometimes we would be in between musicians because they would be moving. So then I would do almost everything on Sunday morning,.

Except for There was one time in Kansas, you were even the sound person. Yeah, right. As well as leading and preaching.

Yeah. I'm in the back kind of adjusting the sound. Okay, I got it set and then I got to run up and yeah. There were some Sundays like that too. Now it didn't ever get that busy in Lindale when we were at First Baptist Church Lindale.

But there were a few Sundays where, like I would never have to lead worship. I would play piano, but I wasn't the guy arranging all of the songs, getting the band members there, leading the worship. I did that one time, but I didn't have to preach and everything on top of that at the same time.

So there would be Sundays where at First Baptist Lindale, I would, and that was split into two services. So I would play piano and preach in the first service. Then I would teach Sunday school. Then I would play piano and preach in the second service.

And then in the evening, I might open with a song and then lead the teaching in the evening. There were maybe three or four Sundays or something like that where the Sunday was that busy. Right. And that was fine.

There's no Exhausting, but fine.

It's tiring, yeah. There's no set up and tear down. I've seen you exhausted, yes.

If I've planned in my week well enough, it's not like I'm having to throw all of that together at once, right? So I've got all my lessons and everything there. I just have to show up and do it all. And there would be people that would notice, man, you were playing piano this morning.

You were preaching. You're just doing it all today. You're a one man show. Yeah. So they would congratulate me on my work ethic,.

But some of the At the same time, you were like, it's not on purpose. It's not what is meant to happen. Right, it's not supposed to happen. Not encouraged.

Yeah, that's right. And so there would be, some of the leadership kind of behind the scenes, they would not be as appreciative of me doing that. Instead, I would get the talk and be like, don't let that happen again.

Yes. It's kind of like, I really didn't have a choice. I did not plan it. Yes. Y 'all kept giving me stuff and I kept saying, okay. So that was, that's kind of how that worked out. But anyway, so this past Sunday, I think this definitely was the busiest.

This was the busiest I've ever done. So I'm getting to the church. Well, first of all, so Saturday night, I was doing surgery on the keyboard. Yes. Because there were coins in the bottom of the keyboard.

Oh, is that why? Yeah. Oh, okay. That were making the keys clack. I've had this keyboard now for 20 years. We've had five children in that span of time. Yes. And we got married, had children and kids, all five of those kids probably at some point like to use the keyboard as a piggy bank.

Yeah. Well, it fits perfectly. Right. So you can stick coins in between the keys. Well, this is fun. And so Look, they disappeared. Yeah, they're just gone. So then they get under the keys and you push down on them and they click or a key would get stuck down or something.

And I knew why. I'm like, okay, there's finally enough coins in this thing and they've moved around enough that they're causing problems for the keys. So I opened up the keyboard on Saturday night. I got all that fixed.

I'm finishing up my sermon. I don't remember what all was going on that evening that eventually just, I didn't go to bed till like three, like three in the morning. And this is Father's Day now. So I'm getting up in the morning.

It's also Zachary's birthday. Yes. Our son turned 15 on Sunday. And so I'm thinking about what I'm doing for him. And then we've got to go over to the church together and we've got to hook the trailer up.

And we, well, part of my Saturday night also involves doing inventory in the trailer and making sure everything's in there. Yes. So that I'm not Worrying about that.

Yeah, right. As well as doing all the prep.

Did I miss something? And now I've got to go back to the church and get it. So I get all that hooked up on Sunday morning. We get it to the middle school. Now, one of the elders is gone. All of the deacons are gone.

My sound guy's gone. The main sound guy. There were some other sound people there. Most of the people that help unload were not there. So I knew getting there, I was, this is a vacation week for a lot of people.

I'm going to be unloading. I'm going to be setting up. I'm leading worship that morning. So the, because our musicians, some of our musicians were gone. The singers were gone. Yes. But we did have a good, you know, we had a guitarist.

We had a violinist. We had a cellist, me playing piano and leading. And a vocalist. Yeah, and another vocalist. So it was a great ensemble. It was really great. Sounded, you know, fantastic, despite all of the sound problems that we ended up having.

Some of that, we just could not be helped. Yeah. But I got all that set up. I had to teach Sunday school at nine. We get done with the setup at nine and I've not changed my clothes yet. So I'm still in the clothes that I wore for the purpose of unloading things out of the trailer.

Right. And so I disappear for about five minutes, go to the bathroom, change into actual Sunday clothes.

And it literally takes them five minutes. Yes. Very, very discouraging for the rest of a household.

For how long it takes you to get ready and everything. Oh my goodness, yes. I can tie a tie pretty fast now. It's, there we go. So right when I'm done changing, I come out, I teach through, I just open the Bible.

Everybody opened to Joshua 2. That was our Sunday school lesson. We go through Joshua 2, we get done. I run through the songs with the musicians. Church starts at 1030. I lead worship, I sing, we get done.

We have to tear down all the sound equipment now, load it back into the trailer.

I'm hooking up to the trailer. We head back to the church. There was something that went wrong in between, or at least long, because we didn't start right at 1030.

It wasn't right at 1030, but it wasn't bad. It was just, we were getting done with songs was what it was. Okay. And there, because there were some sound issues. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it was. But there wasn't anything we could do about it.

It was just kind of like, okay, how do we work around this? It wasn't anything we could do to correct it. Like my guitarist's pickup went out because he needed a new nine volt battery. Oh man. There's nothing we can do about that because we didn't have any extra nine volts.

So it was like, just kill the guitar. We'll put a mic on it. Yeah. That was the best we could do, you know? So it was stuff like that. Same with the cellist. The pickup in the cello wasn't working well.

Put a mic on it. So that's the, it's like the sound guy's fix. It's like, put a mic on it, duct tape it, gaffing tape, put a mic on it, you know, something. Anyway, after we got done, I met with people as best as I could because then we had to do the tear down, load it back into the trailer, go home, open Zachary's presents, open my father's day presents.

Yeah. And then take a quick nap. I was able to get a nap in there. You were. But I still over a span of like 36 hours had only slept two hours. Yes. So I'm plenty exhausted here. It wasn't two continuous hours either.

And then I had to lead worship in the Sunday evening service. I didn't have to teach, but I led the music for Sunday evening. Yes. And Alan taught and I am so Praise the Lord for that. Yeah, so great.

But I've discovered that on a Sunday like that, again, I can't teach Sunday school. Yeah. That's the big one. So if somebody else can handle Sunday school, that way that gives me that hour to make any adjustments that I need to make.

Sermon adjustments, music adjustments, anything like that. That was where I needed the time. I would rather teach on Sunday night. So now you know. Now we know, right. For future, I've figured that out.

And I've let the elders know that this would be the better arrangement for a Sunday morning. So anyway, all of that to say, I'm just kind of rambling on, but I've now had what I believe to have been my busiest Sunday morning.

That was the most. I mean, it's one thing to teach and that's fine. You'll never hear me complain about that. But I'm not complaining about any of it, really. But to have to do sound set up and tear down, that adds a physical element to it.

You're gonna get bored. Yes, right. I'm working out. But we're all good. Oh yeah, and then there was the other thing that happened. So then Monday rolls around. Oh yes, Monday. The fuel pump in the pickup goes out.

Thankfully, this was Monday. Yes. And not Sunday. Right. But now I've got a fuel pump repair. Yes. So if anybody would like to donate to my fuel pump cause. Actually, I should get the fuel, or I should get the pickup back today.

Yes, Lord willing. Yeah.

If anybody would like to contribute, you can go to www .utt .com, click on the give tab. I would sure appreciate it. That was an unforeseen expense in our budget.

Definitely, yeah.

I feel like the same kind of thing is happening with the van. Don't say that. I don't know what's that, but it's not rolling over right away when you turn the key. And I'm going, uh-oh.

Yeah. Something's about to happen here too. Hopefully it's a spark plug or something issue. Like super easy. We can hope. We can hope and pray. Unless it's. Car repair woes. The Highlander. Those spark plugs replacing was awful.

Oh yeah, yeah. I remember that. Cause half the motor's hidden. Yeah. So like to, you could change half of them just fine. But then to get to the other half, like you basically have to either dismantle everything or, you know, I don't even know if you have to take the engine out.

I don't think you do have to. No, no, no. I don't think you have to go that far, but you do have to dismantle a whole bunch and then know how to put it back together.

I know. I remember that part. I'm like, I don't know that much. We had help on the front spark plugs, but we had to take it to a mechanic.

To actually get the back ones. Yeah, we do not have that equipment.

So anyway, all right. Well, let's get to some questions here. Let's do this. First one is a voicemail and this is from Ken Coleman. We've heard from him before. So here we go.

Good morning, Pastor Gabe. This is Kenneth Coleman from Bartleman, Mississippi. I was just wondering, I hear people say, I know the sinner's prayer, there's nothing magical about it, but if we don't pray to God to help us and to save us, how do we become saved?

Do we walk around lost one minute and then all of a sudden we're saved? How does that work? I mean, shouldn't we say the sinner's prayer, but we got to mean it to become saved? I know God does the work.

Can you just talk about that?

I love what y 'all do. Talk to y 'all later. Bye-bye. Thank you, Ken. Good question. That is a good question. So the real issue with the sinner's prayer is the idea that like you just say these words and then you're saved.

Yeah, and then you're good forever. Right, right. Like you don't even have to think about it again. Exactly. That seems to be largely the false teaching that comes along accompanying the sinner's prayer.

You say these words, you only have to do it once.

And you've got the golden ticket. That's right.

It's the magic spell that has now obligated God to save you. And no matter how you live your life from this point forward, you will never lose your salvation as long as you've prayed that prayer. That is

And people cling to it like that. Oh yeah, they do. Right, it is very, very common. Very. And I've even been asked, I remember in my ordination process when I was interviewing to become a pastor where I had already been accepted at the church but then going through the ordination process.

One of the deacons asked me, have you prayed this prayer? And when did you pray it? And I'm thinking is I'm wondering if this is a trick question. Yeah. Like, are you testing to see if that's what I'm putting my trust in having saved me?

Or do you really think that I have to have prayed this prayer in order to be saved? Can you expound on that question? Can you explain to me why you're asking me that question? I don't even remember how I answered it but apparently it was satisfactory.

But yeah, that's the trouble with that prayer. Do we need to pray something to God in order to be saved? You are saved before the words leave your mouth. It is in your heart that you believe in God. And then what comes out of your mouth is the confession that expresses the faith that you have in Jesus Christ.

So believing that Jesus will forgive you your sin and raise you from the dead. And if you believe that, if you believe in Christ that he died, rose again, whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

Then what comes out of your mouth is the confession of Lord, I'm a sinner. I need you. I can't be saved without Christ. There should be some sort of calling out to the Lord. That happens. It doesn't have to be the sinner's prayer because what is that?

I mean, is it the whole ABC thing? Admit, believe, confess. Yeah. So admit that you're a sinner. Lord, I'm a sinner. I know that I need you. And the other thing, the other way that the sinner's prayer is done that becomes very faulty is the whole repeat after me thing.

So repeat this after me. Dear Lord, dear Lord, I admit that I'm a sinner. I admit that I'm a sinner. Like, do you really believe that? Do you really mean that? If you're just repeating the words that somebody else says.

I love the way that Ray Well, I mean, we repeated our vows. Did you really mean them?

Hmm. So I like the way that Ray Comfort puts that because vows are not an apology. That's different. That's very true.

That is very, very true. But when you're confessing If somebody's repeating what somebody else is saying as their apology to me or confession to me, I'm not, yeah, no.

That's what I was gonna say. So Ray Comfort comes at it that way. He'll say, like, if I were to take you, you've done something bad to your wife. You sinned against your wife. If I were to take you to your wife and I were to say, okay, repeat after me and then tell you the words that you're supposed to say to your wife in apologizing.

Do you think she's gonna stand there and go, oh, that was so heartfelt and meaningful. I could tell that you really meant that when you repeated the words of Ray standing next to you, telling you what to say to me.

Mm-hmm. So same sort of thing in making that confession to God. Now, I think that the scriptures can certainly help us in what it is that we should say. Oh, yeah.

And you can guide someone. Yes. Give them what it should look like-ish, like generalized, but then the words should be not plagiarized, basically. Yeah.

Well, even like praying something from the Psalms and saying, the Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. Yeah. He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. We can pray the scriptures.

All of that is well and good. Even anything confessional before God can be prayed. Praying Psalm 51 to the Lord in confessing your sins, that can be very good as well. Mm-hmm. But it's still, again, like Ken even said in his question, it does have to come from the heart.

It does have to be meaningful. Yes. And scripture tells us that. Romans 10, 13, everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. So there should be some pleading. There should be some confession before God.

1 John 1, 9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That's a passage that Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox will take to mean you have to confess to your priest.

Right. But if you confess to your priest and you have not confessed before God, it doesn't count. Right. That is not the kind of confession that it's talking about. You must confess before God. For as it is said in Romans 10, 9, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

For with the heart one believes and is justified. Yes. You believe in your heart and you're justified before the words even come out of your mouth. And with the mouth, one confesses and is saved. The confession that comes forth from your mouth is the expression of what is believed in the heart.

And by faith, you have been justified. There should be some kind of verbal expression that then comes from you. There should be that. Yeah. Because if the heart has been changed, the mouth will reflect that.

Same with your actions, everything that you do from this point forward. Yeah, okay.

For those who are not as publicized or prone to speak in front of people. Right. Their actions would be drastically changed.

And I'm not talking about a mouth confession meaning that you're standing in front of a bunch of people and saying, here are all my sins and here's what Jesus has saved me from.

You know, when we do bad It's usually with the confessional prayer. And what, confessional prayer, right? What he's saying? Yes. Okay. Usually with that, it's at the front of the congregation, right?

The sinner's prayer?

Sinner's prayer, that's what I'm looking for. Not necessarily. Okay. So it could be, but it could also be like, okay, so you do the whole altar call thing. Right, that's what I was thinking. And you're having people come down front and you'll have counselors down front and they're just praying with you privately and saying, repeat after me this.

That's true. Or it could be that the person that's standing there is doing the whole thing in front of the crowd of like, who needs to be saved tonight or, you know, raise your hand. Everybody, heads bowed, eyes closed, raise your hand there.

God bless you, I see that hand, I see that hand. And I've been in those environments and hands are not going up and he's saying that anyway. So it's very manipulative, right? Yeah. And then the guy speaking said, if you raised your hand, I just wanna pray this prayer with you right now and you pray this in your heart where you are.

And if you really mean that, then you are saved. Now I've known people that have come to salvation that way. Yes. It does, it can lead a person to salvation. It can. But it also can lead a person into a lot of error.

It can give them a false sense of salvation. Yes. And that's what we have to be careful with doing that. When the apostle Peter preaches at Pentecost in Acts chapter two, the people are cut to the heart by what he is saying.

They say, what do we need to do? And Peter said to them, repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

He goes on preaching more things and he says, save yourselves from this crooked generation. So repent and be baptized. Repent expresses that there is a belief and then the following of that belief is the baptism.

So there's nothing in there about, there's nothing in Acts at all that demonstrates sinner's prayer evangelism. Right. And one of the things that I've said is we've been going through this Acts study on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday on the podcast.

I said in the very beginning, watch for the ways that the apostles share the gospel throughout the book of Acts because this is the way that we should be sharing the gospel at least this way and not adding things to it that we don't see.

So altar calls, sinner's prayer, what we've commonly seen demonstrated in modern American evangelicalism as evangelism. Don't do that. Do what it is that you see in the Bible. Yes. If you've watched the public evangelism that Ray Comfort does or that Todd Friel does or something like that, you'll see there that they don't tell people repeat after me, repeat after me this prayer.

A lot of times they'll have said something that really convicts the person and then they're telling them go home and pray, read your Bible. So they're leaving it upon them to now follow up what you are experiencing right here and right now.

Not just grabbing them in the heat of a moment and following through with a feeling but that the conviction that they feel would really be genuine. Right. And your salvation or your confession before God should begin with a prayer.

That's very good. A .W. Tozer, for example, I remember his testimony being that he was walking home, passed by a street preacher, heard the preacher saying the judgment of God is coming, repent of your sin.

He was convicted by that. He's been thinking about what he heard the preacher saying the whole way home and he gets home and he goes into a quiet room by himself, kneels down, prays and ask the Lord to forgive him of his sin and to be a savior.

Hmm. So that's neat. Those kinds of conversion stories are real and very special. Yes. But the way that we do the sinner's prayer becomes formulaic. It gets wrapped up in a lot of other false practice and false teaching.

And that's why it's worthy of the criticism that it gets. But still following with what is said in the scripture, everyone who believes will be saved. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

We understand that's what scripture says it is what we must do.

Yeah. I've got nothing to add to that. That was pretty summary, good summary. Summarized, yes. Summarized. Follow what the Bible says. Easy as that. And we know that scripture is God-breathed so we know that there is nothing wrong with that.

Yes.

The Daniel Movie and Biblical Accuracy

All right, this next one from Zach. Pastor Gabe, have you seen the trailer yet for Daniel and the Fiery Furnace? Daniel and the Fiery Furnace. Okay. Not Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the Fiery Furnace.

Nope. But Daniel who was not thrown into the Fiery Furnace. Apparently it's the movie's called Daniel and the Fiery Furnace. Anyway, do you plan on seeing it? Would love to hear your take. I did see this trailer.

It is coming to theaters in September. Here, we'll watch it. This is two and a half minutes. Hopefully it doesn't have music in it that is gonna give me a copyright strike. Or an ad. Yeah. In the middle of it.

An ad in the middle of it.

We'll find out here. Here we go. When the world commands you to kneel, what do you stand for? Okay, recognize that guy? I'm guessing that's Daniel. Does he look familiar to you?

A little. Yeah. Why does he look familiar? Aladdin. Oh, yes. Thank you. The live action Aladdin. I don't know how to pronounce his name but he, if I remember right, he's from Bollywood. Oh, yeah, I think so.

So the, like, India. Yep. India's Hollywood. And really had trouble finding work after Aladdin. Because I remember seeing an article, just one of those things where I'm scrolling through social media and I saw an article with this guy and he was blaming it on racism.

Okay. So the reason why he didn't get another job after Aladdin was racism. Okay.

I mean, it could be true. I mean, yeah. I'm not in his circles, so maybe. Yeah.

It has to do with, I mean, will you make a studio money or not? Yeah. That's really what it comes down to. Usually. But he, I guess, has a Middle Eastern enough vibe here that he is playing Daniel in this movie.

So going on. Daniel, what is it?

Last night. Another dream? One that made me unsure of God's plan.

Okay, so Daniel has a dream. He's talking to a girl. That's weird. Are they gonna throw a romance into this? I wouldn't be surprised. Daniel was a eunuch. Yeah. So yeah, that whole romance thing wouldn't go very far.

It's a little bizarre. So he's having this dream about a fiery furnace. Here's their foreshadowing that they're doing where Daniel receives dreams, interprets dreams, and so he's dreaming of the fiery furnace, even though he doesn't get thrown into the fiery furnace.

No. It's his three friends that get thrown into the fiery furnace. That's why I'm curious where this is going here.

I have been called to conquer these people here of Judah to the promised land of Babylon. You are my people now.

Now that guy, apparently, who's playing Nebuchadnezzar, I guess he's in The Chosen, but I don't know who. I don't recognize him at all. So I don't know what actor he played, or well, he is an actor. I don't know what character he played in The Chosen.

I have said for a while though that we need to get beyond the Jesus stories, turning Jesus and his disciples into movies and TV shows. Stop that. How many of those have we done? And The Chosen is just butchering it ridiculously.

So move on to another story. There was that Easter a year and a half ago where there were three, three Last Supper movies in theaters at the same time. Yep. It's like good gracious people. Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.

Yeah, right. Why? Stretch out and open your Bible up and do some more stories out of there. So this is another Bible story. I would be great with seeing one done well that's actually biblical. I would be great with that.

Would love to see it. We'll see if this actually does it. So far, we're 37 seconds into the trailer and I've got some questions. Okay, seeing Babylon. There's an idol. This is only the beginning. From the executive producer of I Can Only Imagine.

I didn't ever see that. Don't even know what that is. It's the biography of Bart Millard who is the lead singer of Mercy Me and wrote the song I Can Only Imagine. Oh, okay. That's why it sounded familiar.

So there's two of those movies now. There's I Can Only Imagine and there's I Can Only Imagine 2 which came out I think last year. There's a follow up? Yeah, yeah, there was a sequel to it. Where he takes his son out on the road with him.

Oh, okay. Anyway. All right.

Just telling you they're out there. Going on. Teach them how to pray and do not be afraid.

Jeremiah, the word of God will watch over our people.

Where is this invisible God of yours?

On God's ways and what all want man.

Now where is, so Nebuchadnezzar's asking where is this invisible God of yours? It's a strange thing for a polytheist to ask. I guess because, I would guess that it would be because they have their idols.

So this is our God. We can see him. Right, I suppose so. Where is your God that we can't see? I would guess that's probably the nature behind that.

But the idols don't talk to them, so. Well, no, I know. But that's one of the mockeries.

That God makes in scripture. You make these things that you have to carry around. Yeah. They have eyes but can't see you, mouths and can't speak to you. Yeah. So I mean, that's mocked in the Bible. That's fine.

That's fine. I was just curious about like that question. Because it was like a strange thing for a polytheist to ask. But, given that they have gods that they see, then I get why. Yeah, maybe. Makes sense.

I guess this picture here with the fire in the tunnel, I think that's supposed to be a vision of the fiery furnace.

Tell the wise men in Babylon, if the people cannot remind me of my dream, they will burn in the furnace.

No one on earth can explain to the king the mystery of his dream.

So Daniel has a dream with a lion and he throws a spear at the lion. And I don't know if we're ever gonna get to Daniel in the lion's den in this or not. Because the name of the movie is Daniel in the Fiery Furnace.