Coordinators Conf Challenge — George Verwer

Father, we do thank and praise Thee that You've been with us during this day. You've now brought us to this place. This place of prayer, this place of accomplishing what's on Your heart. Lord, we know men through various ways.

Lord, we don't have many opportunities like this to be together. For You to speak and say something, we ask that You would truly not allow us in any way to harden our hearts. Not allow us in any way to be discouraged.

Not allow us to drift from Your very perfect plan. And God, You'd continue to bind our hearts. Though we're from many countries and backgrounds and temperaments and different ministries and gifts from the Spirit, we would be one body operating in no other way.

We thank Thee and praise Thee, Lord Jesus. In His name we pray, Amen. I want to just speak a few moments. I told you I wasn't planning to speak much, but I do have a few things that I want to share. And one or two, especially Brother Greg, who's always so encouraging, have requested that I try to share or would share some of the things that really pound on my heart concerning this position of leadership that you men are in.

Leadership as Servanthood

There's only a few men in the whole work that I've ever really spent a lot of time with and really shared some of the things that I believe and that I believe are from the Lord. It's one of the reasons I believe God is going to give a ship someday so that I can spend many hours with different brothers.

Even this afternoon as I was with Mike and Paul and Johann, I sensed that that's really the way to teach. Just a few people and sharing and teaching and opening your heart rather than before a great audience with a tape recorder going, or even like I am now with so many of you.

Because you're all different. Every one of you is very different. Some of you I've been corresponding and fellowshipping with for ten years. And you know me and I know you. And it just constantly hits me how different, different ones in OM are.

Some of you are so different from each other that it's only grace that can keep you together in one movement. Dave Borman confesses that he's a rebel. The only area where he perhaps needs clearing up is that we're all rebels.

We have just different forms of rebellion. Anyway, I thought I would just share with you some of my real burdens for you men on the top. First of all, when I refer to those on the top, you realize that in reality you're on the bottom because you've been called to serve.

And talking to DeVern Fropke the other day, and our hearts were so quickly knit together, he told me about being with Lauren Sanning. Why are we getting such an echo? He talked about... Is that just this room?

Yeah, I've got this recorder on. Anyway, he talked about how one day they were sitting in the office of the Navigator headquarters, listing all the various staff members, from Lauren Sanning, director, right on down, sort of on a chart.

And Lauren Sanning said something to the tune of, actually what we have to do is just turn it completely upside down because the man on the top has been called to serve, to minister. And as you go out this year, if you don't see that your job is not directing but serving, you will probably lose your team and a lot of other things.

And so when I refer to people on the top, I'm really referring to the people on the bottom. Yet we have this terrific exhortation in scripture, let not many be teachers. Let not many be teachers. And that really, really speaks to me because most of us are in that position where we're teaching, where we're instructing, where we're counseling, where we're telling others what to do.

And of course, that is a serious position. It's a serious situation to be in. And God gives that warning and tells us that we, ourselves, are going to be judged. Let me read it. James 3, 1. My brethren, be not many masters or teachers, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

Jan Darby once said, It's easier to teach others than it is to govern ourselves. Phillips translates this verse. It's a little hard to read. I wrote it in my Bible, but the water faded away. But basically, he said, Dear brothers, don't be too eager to tell others their faults.

For all of us make mistakes. And where we teachers, who should know better, make mistakes, the punishment will be far greater. Which is true. And this afternoon, we close with just the thought that if we're really going to see breakthroughs, we're really going to see some of these resolutions become realities, it's going to take desperation on our part.

Desperation Rather Than Mere Desire

Real desperation. Not just desire. That's not enough. Every year, we desire to do better. I mean, everybody desires to do better, don't they? Every year, we want to push on and be a better Christian and all the rest.

But this isn't enough. It isn't enough. Anybody who studies psychology, and if you study the psychology of business and the psychology of movements, you will discover that the second generation always gets softened.

The pioneers are the rough, tough individuals who fight, and some of them get killed in the process, in order to plan a work. And this is true in the business world. This is true in the whole of society.

This is true. This is why America is corroding today. Because we're not only second generation. We're further on down. And a large part of your companies in America today are directed by young playboys whose fathers beat their brains out to start a company from scratch, and who they're living off the fruit of the land.

And so things degenerate rather quickly. Now, you might think it's an advantage to have a nice, smooth operating headquarters in Sovington, and have a well-organized office in Bolton, which is a very well-organized office, and to have a well-stocked literature department in Bromley, which might at times seem like a bit of chaos, but if you could come back to 1962 and see what we had, you would think you were riding in the top of a Rolls Royce.

And this might all seem great. We've got a good finance department, it seems, to be able to untangle anything you tangle up, and tell us all how much money's in the bank, and all the rest things that most of us don't even understand.

And this all can appear nice. And we think we're going to move smoother, and we're going to get more accomplished. But history has proven otherwise. History has proven that the first generation curses the second generation by its helping it so much.

This is a strange phenomenon. And you can ask me about it tomorrow, but it's true. You see, you've all heard the slogan, survival of the fittest. And this is something that goes back really to nature.

But I think you'll discover that there's some truth in this in applying it to Christianity. When things are rough and tough and hard and impossible, a number of men go forward to tackle a job. Quite a few of them fall flat on their face.

But the ones who get through become mighty men. And this is what happens in the first generation. A few people tackle an impossible job. Quite a few never get through. But the ones who get through are men.

Then comes the second generation. These ones that have made it through, especially within the Christian fold, have love in their hearts, don't they? And they tend to want to think, well, boy, we don't want him to suffer the way we suffered.

Just like my father. My own father worked like nobody from the age of 14. His one goal was to put me in university. He didn't care how hard he worked. He saved his money and was ready to put me through Harvard, through Yale, through any one of the Ivy League schools.

That was his dream. And so he did everything for me. And I can tell you, I had a wonderful father. I'll always be indebted to a father, even though he didn't know Christ, who gave everything. When I joined the Cub Scouts, he joined the Cub Scouts.

When I joined the Boy Scouts, he joined the Boy Scouts. I wanted to play basketball, he founded the basketball league. When I found to play baseball, he founded the baseball league. He was an umpire. He got his legs spiked up and down and bruised and kicked because he loved his son.

And I know that it's a very important thing in my own life, a father like that. And this is the way it is, isn't it? He was the first generation. He wanted me to have every opportunity. And the very fact that he did that, in many ways, made it a lot easier for me and, in some ways, gave me some weak traits in my own life.

Although maybe if he didn't make it easier, I would not have made it. It's a little different outside the family, back to organization, back to Operation Mobilization. Some years ago, when certain things had to be done, it was a bit rougher to do them.

When they wanted to repair those vehicles to get to India in 1964, that situation in Switzerland, I tell you, was rough. It was really rough. And even when Frank started here a few years ago, it was a lot different than it is today.

And this doesn't mean we shouldn't work toward progress. Of course we should. But we must keep this in mind. And we must do everything we can to avoid the road of least resistance and, therefore, take on bigger tasks and make sure that we're not just riding in.

Faith, Finance, and Dependence on God

Now, this is so easy in the area of finance. This is just an example. This is very important for you to understand this. So important that this concept could save this work, especially in the second, third, and fourth generation, if we believe such a thing exists.

Now, when I wanted to get finance back in the beginning of the work, there was no question of central fund, was there? And this work almost rock piled many times in its early days. Many times was almost completely smashed out.

Because, you see, back in those days, either we got through for God or that was it. There was no question of, well, if we didn't get through for God, we could always do this or do that. No. If we didn't get through for God, that was it.

And I want to tell you, I got so desperate before God. That's why I fasted more. I want to tell you, back in the early stages of this work in Mexico, the devil threw such a dart that I couldn't describe it in a public meeting.

Such a dart. What did we do? I got Hosie Burks. I got one or two other guys. We just didn't eat. We just didn't touch food for quite some time until we knew that God had won the victory. Why? Because if we hadn't won that victory, there'd been no more work.

It wasn't a matter of changing fields. It wasn't a matter of going somewhere else. There was nothing else. That was it. We either won or we were through. And a number of times in the early growth of the work, and even to this day, because we're still in the very early stages of this work, this had to take place.

We had to get through to God. Now, of course, we love young people. The last thing we want to do is see anybody cry. The last thing we want to do is say go home to anybody. The last thing we want to see anybody have is a nervous breakdown.

But I'll tell you this. If you and I are going to win battles for Christ, we're going to have a lot of those three things. Some people are going to fall by the wayside. And I'm not saying this at all.

We had a previous conversation here. It has nothing to do with that conversation. Please don't get it confused with that situation. But if we're going to go forth and we're going to pioneer and we're going to make impact, we're going to have problems.

And some people are going to be hurt. Some people are going to be lost along the way. Because in order to go back and pick up all those that fall, the only way to do it basically is you've got to make it easy.

Now, with the revolution of love, a lot of this can be covered through liberty, through realizing people differ, through many other things. And you know this is basically the way we operate. But in the long run, if we set the standard where O .M. has set it and keep it up there, some people are going to get frustrated, some are going to quit, and a few are going to crack up.

And people can say, well, look, man, you've got to be a little easier. You've got to lower the standard. Some people are getting frustrated. Others are not able to make it. But I tell you, when you lower the standard, every time you lower it, you have that less opportunity of producing any real men.

Because real men will only be produced through fire, through difficulty, through trial. And many times when you make it easier for a brother, in the long run, you make it harder. As I repeat that, many times when you make it easier for somebody, you make it harder.

I believe that we've got to continue to operate with all stops out. We've got to continue to operate and demand from the young people total surrender to Jesus Christ. Absolute commitment as far as the Holy Spirit is revealed to them at that time.

Naturally, we never reach an ultimate. And we continue to press on. And if I make it easier for you, if I let up on you because, well, you're different from me, you've got a different situation, and I love you so much, I certainly don't want to put you in a situation where you're going to maybe crack up or have a difficulty.

So I make it easier. I do this, I do that. I know how to do that. In the long run, it could be you. Because there comes a day when the cushions all fall away. There comes a day when maybe George Berwick can't help you.

There comes a day when maybe headquarters can't send you five cents. There comes a day when Frank won't have any more trucks. And you never learned to hitchhike. And when you went out to hitchhike for the first time, you had a heart attack.

Whereas if you'd learned to hitchhike many years ago, because that was the mode of transport I had, it might have helped you. And I just believe with all my heart the temptation is going to come to lower the standard.

The temptation is going to come to slack off. Temptation is going to come in many different directions. Just like it comes to me. I'd like to go into psychiatric counseling. Is it fair for me to go off to Nepal, off to Bangkok, off to India right now, when I've got young people back in Europe that need counseling, and I have a gift as a counselor, and could pull many of these young people, I'd give some of them a hundred hours, and I've done that to some people, I could pull them right out.

Is it fair for me to go running off to the regions beyond? You see how easy it can go? Because the emphasis today is on depth, isn't it? The emphasis today is, you know, you've got to go deep, you can't be superficial.

And evangelism gets tended to be classified, doesn't it? Why, when I tell people I do counseling work, why, they think that's really soft. But when people hear I spend 20 hours or 10 hours out in the street giving out tracts, they're not impressed at all.

You see? And it's going to take discipline, it's going to take continual balance and God-given perspective for us to keep evangelism and invasion for Christ in the center of this movement. Because we're going to have psychological cases, we're going to have problem children, we're going to have heartbreaks.

I've got a girl right now in a mental institution in India under intensive shock treatment. I know now I should have never brought her. I didn't screen her carefully enough, but it's too late now. She's out there and she's in, and she's very, very ill, and I share that only confidentially with you.

I believe she's going to come through. She's a girl with a terrible background from the communist world who's never had love and never had anything else. Her problem isn't O .N. You'll get discharged at you once in a while that O .N. brings nervous breakdowns.

I want to tell you, as far as I can see, our record in terms of nervous breakdowns is probably better than any mission in the world. Probably because we're young. Only the Lord knows. And the cases of people we've had who have had some nervous troubles basically had brought it in with them and had the problems before they came to us.

I don't believe discipleship will bring nervous breakdowns. I don't believe preaching the full message of the New Testament is going to cause any more people to crack up emotionally than preaching in soft silver and whatever other simple message you give to them.

A Desperate Prayer Life

Let me go on from this to pass on to you very, very much where I think we must get desperate. And if I tell you to get desperate in any area where I don't want to get desperate myself and haven't got desperate, then God have mercy on me.

But I believe we've got to get desperate in these areas. I'm speaking to you just the way, right from my heart. If the shoe fits, put it on. If it doesn't fit, leave it off. But I believe, firstly, we've got to get desperate in this prayer life.

For any of you to be able to come back next year after what we've said here this weekend and say that your devotional time is not going right, that you're not getting through to God at length, I want to tell you, you better get ready and pack up.

I don't care who you are. I tell you, it's just desperate. We've got to have a prayer life. If you're in a position of leadership and you're not having quiet time and intercession and prayer and getting through and seeing specific answers so that you can put them in a book just like George Mueller, then you have no right to continue another year as a leader in God's Word.

You may have the guts to get out. And I want to tell you, if I had to stand before you and tell you this past year, I haven't had a prayer life and I haven't got through to God most days, not every day, and I haven't spent hours with God and mornings with God and got through to God on many issues, I tell you, I'd have to quit.

I'd have to quit. Because we've got this army of people that are looking to us as men of God. We have this army of young people who are looking to us as people, as God's people look to Moses and look to Joshua.

So they're looking to us. And we just can't glibly come up and say, well, somehow I've been too busy. Somehow I just haven't got down to it. Somehow I've been slipping. We can't do it. We just can't. And this desperation has come so much upon me that I just can't get through a day anymore without getting with God.

If I have to stay up till two in the morning, I've got to get with God. Sometimes it's only a half an hour. Less than a half an hour is mockery. What men of God in history have ever spent less than a half an hour in His presence to accomplish a work?

Do we think we're going to conquer Afghanistan with half-hour titbits of prayer? Do we think we're going to invade the Muslim world with pop guns and five-minute God bless our new worker? Never, never.

I want to tell you, this is a secret. With many of our brethren in India, these boys don't think of leaving a prayer meeting after first hour, second hour, third hour, fourth hour, fifth hour. Many of them, in their own simple way, believe more in prayer than we do.

It's the backbone of Buck Singsworth. That man prays more than probably all of us in this room put together. It's an exaggeration, but it seems that way sometimes. His faith is so simple. He doesn't have any of the powerful memory we have.

They haven't got a single vehicle in the whole world except what we're given. They haven't got any of the offices we have. Their office is so disorganized. Their literature room is so disorganized. When I go in there, I almost get a nervous breakdown.

The accounts are so confused. The whole place is a shambles in many ways organizationally. But they've got power. They've had 200 ,000 souls saved. They haven't got Dr. Schaeffer. Buck Singh never even preaches an apologetic.

He doesn't believe it. But he's had 200 to 300 assemblies born and hundreds of intellectuals and college students and even some with PhDs saved through his ministry. And now he's invited to every part of the world to tell the world how to do it.

You see? He's got prayer. And I don't care if you come to me with muddled finance books. Steve does. I really do also. But I tell you, I want prayer. This is the thing that convinces me about Brother Steve.

It's not his accounting. Because ever since I began to live with him and prayed in a cellar of Gopin with him, I know we've got a man in the accounting department who believes in prayer. And that's the backbone of the accounting department.

And he doesn't believe it. He doesn't believe it. Oh, I just say it. I just do anything. We are from the activist West. We think of everything in terms of what we can do, what we can calculate, what we can organize, who we can counsel, who we can encourage, who we can show a film to, who we can show slides to, who we can preach to, what strategy we're going to have, what graph, chart we're going to put up.

But God sees everything in terms of prayer, which is just communion with God. When you say prayer, you say God. You can't say prayer without saying God. That's just a nonsense way, isn't it? And I just pray if any of you really are not getting through, really are not seeing prayer life that counts, just say, Lord, Lord, Lord, I cannot go on without you.

I cannot go on without prayer anymore than I could go on in my marriage without love from my wife. If I'm off being here, well, God knows. Why do you think God didn't let me in India? Because He wanted me to pray.

And I want to tell you there in the mountains in Nepal, I used to get up early in the morning and pedal my bicycle off alone into the mountains. Because, you know, if you try to hold your prayer life around a soft, cushy, little, warm room, you're never going to get through.

You'll fall asleep, just like I did the other day. And I tried, I still try, every once in a while. You know, God is so patient with me. I try to have my prayer life in a nice, cushy little chair, my Bible on my knee.

You can do that sometimes. There's a time for that. I call that relaxation prayer. It's all right. But if you want to get through for God, get out of the stuffy little room, get out where it's zero, but get somewhere where you're awake, and then pray.

And what a difference I got on that bicycle and pedaled out a couple of miles, went off into the hills in Nepal, and I tell you, I felt that the God of Moses was standing right next to me. Time went by just like water.

I want to tell you, you've got to get with God. Fold your whole program up. Close down and send me the weekly report. We've done nothing this week but pray and worship, George. Sorry, you can fire me from the work.

And if you had to stop the truck in the middle of nowhere, and you know, every time God slows the truck down or something breaks down, we should just, it's just an alarm, pray. If we all get stuck in Salmonton, Brother Frank gets ill and the trucks don't go, God's just saying pray.

Every time He slows you down, He's just saying pray. If you don't get back into the country where you belong like I did, then He's just saying pray. And God kept that confidence. I tell you, some of those brothers were really scared.

You know what the devil can do at a conference when the so-called authority isn't there. And we've got an awful lot of leaders in India. You get all those leaders together and no leader above them and you can have a lot of trouble.

The guy sailed through one of the greatest conferences this world has ever known without Jesus. Praise God. He goes to the Holy Ghost. And they had prayer times and worship times and they sailed out of there and back into the front lines.

And I tell you, that encourages me. That encourages me. That means that Jesus can take me if He wants. Perhaps at least as far as England is concerned. Although I believe He does have a ministry yet for me there.

Love as the Basis of Christian Leadership

The next thing we've got to get desperate about and with all of our heart, this fist is linked, and that's loving one another. The one thing that has discouraged me about leaders in this work, if anything can discourage me, it usually lasts a few minutes, is the lack of love one for another.

I tell you, I can't believe it. How the devil can get us twisted on this. We're in the same work. We're born of the same spirit. We have the same Father. We're moving in the same direction. And yet the devil has a way to keep us from loving one another.

There's too much toleration in OM, not enough love. Too much toleration. Nobody's fighting anybody in OM. Nobody's sort of writing me caustic letters against the other leader. But there's not in a number of places that firm love so that when we see each other, we really do love each other.

Not a cheap little cardboard love that gives a wishy-fish handshake like I gave Greg years ago. It was probably this thing wasn't operating in my life the way it should. But we really do love one another.

When we love one another, we're going to want to go. We're going to always want to stay right with one another. We're not going to want any gossip behind the back. All these things we've heard about in OM over and over again.

And I say this with all my heart. 80 of OM's troubles lie on that issue. Absolutely. When there's love, anything can be worked out. Look, in my family, we've had lots of interesting little problems.

You think my home just runs smoothly. Just the environment that I live in. And my wife hasn't even unpacked yet from India because she's been ill. And one month, we're going to repack. She's still not sure whether she's going to Bangkok, Nepal.

She doesn't know whether I'm leaving her the moment I get there. I might leave her in Africa and go on to Singapore. She doesn't have a clue. If you don't think that can bring a little discussion, it can.

But you know, because love is there between my wife and I, we've never gone down without reality in our home. We've never once, I mean, asleep. I mean, it's just real. And it's the same among us. I tell you, the devil...

I'd like to know when the devil has driven disunity between Jonathan and I. I'd like to be told about it. He just can't do it because we love each other too much. And it's certainly a lot harder for him than it is for me because he is, of course, the faithful type, the submissive type.

And I'm the overbearing type, the bullheaded type, I guess. I'd like to believe I'm not, but I guess I still am. And so it's harder for him. But the devil has not been able to get in. He's not been able to get in between Dale and I.

He's not been able to get in between Greg and I. He's not even been able to get in between Frank Buss and I. And Frank and I, I tell you, we had our rounds a couple of years ago. And about a year and a half ago, I tell you, it looked like he was headed for the United States and I was headed for the moon or something.

But God knit our hearts, and I want to tell you, over this past year, my heart has been so knit with Frank. And even there, we were just praying and having a tremendous time in fellowship. It doesn't matter who it is.

I know the devil has tried to get in between Steve and I. I've had some of my most precious fellowship with Steve because he's the most different from my temperament. And because he's got a lot more in his head than mine, than I've got in mine, which means that I've got to be, I've got to humble myself and I've got to face realities.

And I tell you, I've had some of my best fellowship with Brother Steve. Because fellowship, just the natural, you know, the guy looks just like you and agrees with you and everything. Steve disagrees with me.

We've got a great disagreement right now. He thinks we should sell Lobo right away and I don't think we should sell it for a higher price. And he's written a letter and I don't agree with it. That doesn't mean a thing.

When you're in love, I don't care if my wife wants to use, wear a different color skirt. I love her whatever skirt she puts on. And though I may make my opinion and say, well, don't wear that one, I'm not going to turn off the love because she wears a different color skirt.

And this is the answer. This is the answer. And this is what most works don't have. You and I know it. They don't have this fervent love. I've seen the devil come in. Look what's just happened to Campus Crusade for Christ.

And I don't want to speak against any group and I'm not speaking against them. But three of the very top men at Bill Bright have just walked out and started a new operation, Operation Axe 26. Well, maybe there's love there.

But it seems to me that love would have found a better solution than that. I hope. But it seems to me that in evangelical circles we walk out on each other pretty quick. My, oh my, you watch the United States?

These guys bob from one organization to the next. Here, one minute you see a guy in United, next minute you see him with somebody else. Now, if the love continues, praise God. And it does continue in some cases.

And when you leave O .N., if you do, that love should still continue in some of my greatest relationships or with people outside of O .N. But when they separate and never write each other and never see each other and then start competing with each other, that's a different story.

And I just say that we've got to get desperate about this. And I've been in a headquarter situation where there's been two leaders and they don't pray with each other one week to the next. You can't tell me there's love there.

You can't tell me. You can't tell me. You might not hate him, but your way of saying things is not fervent love. I can't go back to my house and say I have fervent love for my wife and never talk to her, never say anything to her, or my children, or any other love relationship.

I just say that though we're thought of in O .N. as over-preaching love, I don't think so. I don't think so. And this is the thing that has won team members and this is the thing that has lost team members.

When you love your team member, you're winning. He'll work for you. I've had leaders come and say so-and-so's not doing this, not doing that. But you know basically what he needs? He needs more love.

He needs more understanding. He needed more encouragement. And Dale's message at the leadership conference some time ago, I don't remember the whole thing. I just don't know whether I read it or saw it somewhere about encouraging rather than...

Do you remember what it was? Dale, do you remember? And you know people are sheep. The Bible says that. And you can't expect ordinary people who basically are going to live a fairly ordinary life to become your spiritual superman.

They need leadership. The world without leadership would be the most hopeless, crazy place and just completely impossible. And the leader makes a team. You will make or break your team. I don't care what people you have.

There will always be a few impossible cases that in the long run you'll have to commit to the sovereignty of God. That I've had to learn. But basically, you will make or break that team. And the boys that have it, I can tell you you've got a guy like George Miley out in India who's got it.

No matter what you say, he is not a man in India he doesn't have confidence of. I sent many foreigners out there and all they've done is muck up the works. They put Thomas Samuels back up. They put another, all the Indians backs up.

But you send a guy out there that's got love and understanding and warmth and it's just fantastic. You can send a guy out there that's got truth, got evangelistic zeal, he's got truck driving ability, he's got anything.

He doesn't have love, he'll put everybody's back up, he'll screw up the works, cause you more headaches than you'll ever want to do. Love is it. Love is it. And love makes men go. Love makes men work.

Love makes men do almost anything. And I know that the love that people have shown to me has been the greatest motivating factor in my life outside of this great grace that comes from God. The love that Brother Dale has shown to me over the years has probably been one of the biggest factors in my life.

And other brothers, some who are in this room, and I tell you, when you love a fellow you want to pray with him. When you pray with him, God works. When you pray with him, God moves. And oh my, this is my yearning.

I don't want to take any round the world trip this year. I'd like to go out to Bangkok and Nepal and stay there all year. Because I hate aircraft, and I hate traveling and all the rest. But if God tells me to get in that plane and go to Los Angeles and Seattle and Mexico City and Monterey and New Jersey and London and Paris and Madrid and just in every one of those places, this is the message I want.

If that's what he wants me to do, that's what I'll do. Because if we don't learn to love, and the church doesn't learn to love, because this is the message we should be bringing in the church, we've had it.

Are we ready to become really desperate about that? Are we ready to say, look Brother Greg, anything you see in my life this year that's not loving, the way Jesus would do it, will you tell me? That's what I told Peter Conlon when he came to work with me.

He thought he was the world's biggest sinner until he met me. He got fellowship with me because he found that I was as lousy as him. And I can't fellowship with the righteous. I have real trouble with the righteous.