EP 53 – Watch the full Homily from Bishop Budde with Pastor Jeff and Pastor Tim. #jesus , #trump

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Yeah, so Timothy, 1 Timothy 2, verses 15 and following,

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Paul forbids a woman to teach or exercise authority over men. So the expositing of the word, it's not the place of a woman to exposit scripture and explain the meaning to a man in that authoritative kind of way.

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So here she's standing in a pulpit and she's opining her position.

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She's lecturing on humility, but humility is biblically defined. This is the one to whom

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I will look, the one who is lowly, contrite in heart and who trembles at my word.

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So the rejection of biblical teaching is the farthest thing from humility. It's easy to just say, be humble, but if people are doing unbiblical things that are anything unscriptural, that's not humble.

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That's really raising a hand and a fist against almighty God. And welcome to Tearing Down High Places.

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My name's Average Joe and guys, what a week. What a week,

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Pastor Jeff, Pastor Tim. What'd you say? Anything big happened this week you wanted to talk about? Dude, just seeing

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President Trump inaugurated was just like water to my soul. In the fall,

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I was looking out at the likelihood of us losing that office to the pagan ethics of Kamala Harris, right?

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And it looks so bleak with the Equality Act, with abortion enshrined as a national law, all the things that were being threatened and you guys were right there.

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We went out on the streets of Philadelphia. We preached the gospel. We, in large chunks of the population there, were able to kind of turn the tide with conversations and really with thousands of flyers.

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And I do think that it made a difference in inner city Philadelphia. Joe, did you actually see the breakdown in Pennsylvania about the difference between 2020 and 2024?

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I didn't. Where Trump was shot in the ear, right, in Butler? He didn't get any more votes this time around than last time.

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All in the rural areas, it was basically a wash. The difference was Philadelphia.

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Wow, yeah, and probably Kensington too. Kensington was one of the biggest turning points.

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And like in Wisconsin, Kamala actually closed her field office and moved all of the troops to Philadelphia because their internal polling was showing that they weren't getting the movement for Kamala that they wanted.

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I'm not saying that TDHP did that. I think Elon Musk was a bigger factor. Probably, a little bit.

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Just a little bigger. A number of people getting behind Trump and just the whole broader movement, obviously, is what did it.

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But in Philadelphia, we made a difference. Trump, let's go! Man, the night before the actual election,

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I somehow knew it was gonna be a Trump victory. I told my wife at two o 'clock they're gonna announce it.

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They announced it at 1 .50 on Fox News. Wow. I kind of had this sense that God was gonna do it.

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But now to actually see that he survived the assassination attempts and they didn't take a shot at him or weren't able to indoors this year,

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I mean, in the inauguration, God protected his life to spare this country. And the first thing he did,

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Joe, is executive orders to get us out of the World Health Organization. Yeah.

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On the Paris climate deals. Love it. To me, that is so huge. The World Health Organization is the precursor to the

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Mark of the Beast. They were trying to jab the whole world in order to bring us into submission to their authoritarian one -world government.

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That's part of it. If you actually read Revelation 13, seven and following, there's a one -world beast system that's coming on the world.

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And it's globalist, it's authoritarian. And what we saw in 2020 was the rise of this thing, but by God's grace, it's been restrained.

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And now Trump is God's instrument to hold back the rise of globalism.

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So he pulls us out of the Paris climate accords because they want climate change to be the next quote unquote pandemic.

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What they tried to do with COVID was kind of a test run and they want the climate issue. By the way, there's snow where I come from in Tampa, Florida, right?

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All throughout Florida, there's a snowstorm. So global warming, really? Yeah. Well, and our governor here in New Jersey, I don't know if you even noticed when we had a one inch snowstorm on the way, he proactively declared another state of emergency because he wants the power.

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Wants that power. That state of emergency gives everybody a lot of power. Yeah, well, that's what

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I'm saying. The great irony about Trump is that he's actually not a big government guy. Right.

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They wanna make him Hitler and the next totalitarian ruler in how they paint him.

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But he actually takes away the regulations. He reduces government. Doge is all about reducing the spending of government.

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He's not a perfect man and he has his flaws, but we need to be praising God for what

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God did to put Donald Trump in the White House. Amen, amen. Tim, what was your big takeaway this week with the inauguration?

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What'd you think? Well, I got some things to say. I mean, first I wanna say, I just feel so blessed to be part of TDHP and I strongly believe that TDHP was used by God to help change the world one episode at a time.

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And it was a privilege and honor to go to Philly with you guys and then the group of people that came with us and to be able to preach the gospel and to be able to share some news on how to love your neighbor and vote for Trump.

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And all the stuff that's happened with Trump, it's just, man, it's amazing.

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I was on a youth retreat and when

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I got the news of Trump's assassination attempt where it hit him in the ear, but God protected him and he stood up and was yelling, fight, fight, fight.

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The kind of guy that he is, like, man, I couldn't help but think this guy is a legend.

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And I shared it with one of the youth group kids, the news that I was getting and this kid named

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Tim. And Tim, the first thing he said was like, man, what a legend. And it's okay, there's some legends among us.

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There's some legends out there like John MacArthur, someone like Billy Graham, who's had influence on a lot of world leaders preach the gospel to so many different nations and different people.

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And so many people are getting saved through his preaching. And he even got to talk with presidents of the United States and then some presidents of the

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United States that God really used to change the world and so many people in history. And then you got people like Jeff Klewer and Joe Gormley who are also legends in my opinion.

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And - There are legends in our own minds, Tim. Legends in our own minds. And it's just like you're watching a guy, people think that we worship the guy.

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No, we don't. I just appreciate who he is and how he's ready to fight for America.

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And I just am optimistic that God is gonna use him to make America great again, to make it greater than it already is because I think

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America is great. But I think that he'll use Trump to make it even greater.

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I like that you bring up the activities we did down in Kensington and that was Jeff's site. I love that Jeff had those pamphlets printed up that said, hey, you wanna love your neighbor?

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Vote for Trump. And what a statement to people like, listen, there's all these folks that always say, well, you know, you should be talking about, that's, you should keep politics out of the church.

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No, God's love is politically oriented. There's, it's all over the

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Bible. You can't escape it. We can't love. And the point when we were out there witnessing the folks and I think what got a lot of them to think about voting for Trump was, yeah,

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I guess I can't love my neighbor if their taxes are doubling and tripling or their bank account, the value is dwindling because the government's stealing from them by printing money.

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Or I can't love my neighbor if, you know, it's they're making bad permanent decisions of all ilks that are gonna affect them for the rest of their life because the government's promoting it, right?

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So the pamphlet focused on three areas and it was very simple. Each one with a small picture and just a little bit of text.

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It was inflation, immigration and assassination. And those were the issues that were actually able to move the needle in the inner city.

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Having been an inner city missionary for 12 years, I understood the way people think and what wouldn't actually backfire and while people up against the point.

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But assassination was a very interesting thing because the devil meant to destroy,

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God meant it for good. And it showed that God's hand of protection on two assassination attempts was over Donald Trump.

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He turned this way just the right second so that the bullet didn't take him in the temple but nicked the ear.

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Just enough to show that that's how close the bullet came and blood flying down his face and all of that in order not to destroy him but that God would show his stamp of approval in that way.

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It was an assassination attempt but it was not an assassination. Right, he had blood in his eye and he still could see properly to get up and yell fight.

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I mean, that was just awesome. I just think God has a plan for our country and he's gonna use

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Donald Trump to do good things. That's my belief. I could be wrong, we don't know. But I love to have an optimistic thought that maybe

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God is protecting him and that's a really good reason that we put on that paper that a lot of people, I think, had their eyes open to that possibility in inner city

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Philly. Well, we've discussed many times that while Donald Trump has more than once said he is not a

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Christian, that he does love Christians. He loves his little Christians. Love my little Christians.

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I can't do a Trump, but he does care a lot about what we think.

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And we know now that that bullet into his ear has made him think a lot about God.

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And he even said so in his inauguration speech, right? He doubled down and said, I thought it before but now

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I know God saved me to make America great again. So in fact,

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I don't know if you guys noticed or not but I mean, Trump is being so much prodded by the

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Holy Spirit. I think he actually went to church yesterday. Did you guys hear about that?

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You know, I had not heard about this until you told me this morning. So Joe, I'm gonna be watching this for the first time in my life.

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This is truly off the cuff comments. I have not seen this yet. I've only seen a little snid bit.

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So this'll be mainly new to me too. Okay, so for the audience, what we're gonna do is we're going to listen to the

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Bishop. Let me make sure I got the right Bishop here. So the Bishop from the

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Washington National Cathedral. So it's an Episcopal denomination. If you're not familiar with Episcopalian, it's actually like some people call it a

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Catholic light. They hold to the same rules as the Anglican church which really just kept the

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Catholic traditions and got rid of the Pope. You guys may remember a guy, Henry VIII.

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Anyway, so that's how that came about. But so that's kind of the tradition. So we might call it a high church if you're a

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Protestant. And the event that happened yesterday, it was led by a woman who calls herself a

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Bishop. Now Bishop is a little different in Episcopalian versus, you know, a pastor, but kind of close.

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And so we've got a 15 minute, it's not a sermon, it's a homily.

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Jeff, what's the difference between a homily and a sermon? Oh, it's just nomenclature. Like Tim Robinson coined the term snidbit a moment ago.

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Snidbit? It's a combination of a snippet and a tidbit. And a homily is just a made up term to try to sound different than you would expect.

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It's high churchy. Sorry, Tim, I'm just messing with you. So in her homily, she engaged in some political discussion, which

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I'm not surprised at that. But I'm surprised at what she says, well,

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I'm not surprised at that either. I don't think any of us are, but I think Trump was and Trump was offended and he's actually asking for an apology.

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So we're gonna go through this at 2X speed because she also speaks very slowly and that should get us through in about eight minutes for those of you who are keeping track.

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The words of my mouth and the meditation of all our hearts be acceptable in your sight, oh God, for you are our strength and our redeemer, amen.

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Please be seated. You guys hear it okay? Again, my warm welcome to all who have gathered in this house of prayer for all people and for those who are joining us via live stream.

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As a country, we have gathered this morning to pray for unity as a people and a nation, not for agreement, political or otherwise, but for the kind of unity that fosters community across diversity and division, a unity that serves the common good.

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Unity in this sense is a threshold requirement for people to live in freedom and together in a free society.

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It is a solid rock, as Jesus said, in this case, upon which to build a nation. It is not conformity, it is not victory.

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It is not polite weariness or passivity born of exhaustion. Unity is not partisan. Rather, unity is a way of being with one another that it encompasses and respects our differences, that teaches us to hold multiple perspectives and life experiences as valid and worthy of respect, that enables us in our communities and in the halls of power to genuinely care for one another, even when we disagree.

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Those across our country who dedicate their lives or who volunteer to help others in times of natural disaster, often at great risk to themselves, never ask those they are helping for whom they voted in a past election or what positions they hold on a particular issue.

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We are at our best when we follow their example. For unity at times is sacrificial in the way that love is sacrificial, a giving of ourselves for the sake of another.

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In his sermon on the mount, Jesus of Nazareth exhorts us to love not only our neighbors, but to love our enemies and to pray for those who persecute us, to be merciful as our

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God is merciful, to forgive others as God forgives us. And Jesus went out of his way to welcome those whom his society deemed as outcasts.

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Now I grant you that unity in this broad, expansive sense is aspirational and it's a lot to pray for. It's a big ask of our

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God, worthy of the best of who we are and who we can be. But there isn't much to be gained by our prayers if we act in ways that further deepen the divisions among us.

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Our scriptures are quite clear about this, that God is never impressed with prayers when actions are not informed by them. Nor does

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God spare us from the consequences of our deeds, which always, in the end, matter more than the words we pray. As of us gathered here in the cathedral, we are not naive about the realities of politics.

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When power and wealth and competing interests are at stake, when views of what America should be are in conflict, when there are strong opinions across a spectrum of possibilities and starkly different understandings of what the right course of action is, there will be winners and losers when votes are cast, decisions made that set the course of public policy and the prioritization of resources.

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It goes without saying that in a democracy, not everyone's particular hopes and dreams can be realized in a given legislative session or a presidential term, not even in a generation.

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Just to say, not everyone's specific prayers, for those of us who are people of prayer, not everyone's prayers will be answered in the way we would like.

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But for some, the loss of their hopes and dreams will be far more than political defeat, but instead a loss of equality and dignity and their livelihoods.

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Guys, I thought I'd pause right there. Yeah, we're about a third of the way through, believe it or not. So it's a pretty short sermon.

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I think she just, she did invoke some scripture.

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I'm glad we're listening to this because she is referencing the Bible, but she's only taking a little snidbit.

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She's not giving full verses. Snidbits, well played, Gormley. So my first thought when she's opining in this way is what about the little babies that are being slaughtered in the womb?

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The dignity of those little girls in the womb and little boys, do their lives matter?

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I don't know that that's who she has in view when she's speaking of the winners and losers in the election, because the law to enshrine

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Roe versus Wade as a constitutional law that Kamala was pushing would result in their continued slaughter.

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Whereas the election of Trump pushes it and leaves it back at the states. And it's up to us then to fight for the lives of the unborn.

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So is there any human being in this country more vulnerable, more innocent than a baby in the womb?

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Or more outcast. Yeah, more outcast. More outcast, to use her words of Jesus.

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She said that Jesus went out of his way to welcome outcasts.

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Hey Tim, was there any clarification that Jesus might've done when he was welcoming outcasts?

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Did he might've said something to them like as he welcomed them? Well, Jesus hung out with outcasts not to go with the outcasts or certain people.

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When he would go to hang out with them such as sinners or tax collectors or people that would be viewed as outcasts, he wasn't there to affirm their sin.

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He wasn't there to encourage them to keep looking at it from their own perspective and keep doing what they're doing.

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He was there to seek and to save that which was lost. And he was there to call them to repentance and to believe in God and do things

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God's way. It wasn't, he was trying to reveal the kingdom to them. He wasn't there to say, yeah, keep doing what you're doing.

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Well, she might bring that up. So let's check it out and see if she does bring that up. We'll keep going. Given this then, is true unity among us even possible?

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And why should we care about it? Well, I hope we care. I hope we care. Because the culture of contempt that has become normalized in this country threatens to destroy us.

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We are all bombarded daily with messages from what sociologists now call the outrage industrial complex.

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Some of that driven by external forces whose interests are furthered by a polarized America. Contempt fuels political campaigns and social media and many profit from that.

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But it's a worrisome, it's a dangerous way to lead a country. I'm a person of faith, surrounded by people of faith.

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And with God's help, I believe that unity in this country is possible. Not perfectly, for we are imperfect people and an imperfect union, but sufficient enough to keep us all believing in and working to realize the ideals of the

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United States of America. Ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence with its assertion of innate human equality and dignity.

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And we are right to pray for God's help, as we seek unity, for we need God's help. But only if we ourselves are willing to tend to the foundations upon which unity depends.

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Like Jesus' analogy of building a house of faith on the rock of his teachings as opposed to building a house on sand. The foundations we need for unity must be sturdy enough to withstand the many storms that threaten it.

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And so what are they? The foundations of unity? Drawing from our sacred traditions and texts, let me suggest that there are at least three.

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The first foundation for unity is honoring the inherent dignity of every human being, which is, as all the faiths represented here affirm, the birthright of all people as children of our one

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God. In public discourse, honoring each other's dignity means refusing to mock or discount or demonize those with whom we differ, choosing instead to respectfully debate our differences and whenever possible, to seek common ground.

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And if common ground is not possible, dignity demands that we remain true to our convictions without contempt for those who hold convictions of their own.

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The second foundation for unity is honesty in both private conversation and public discourse. If we're not willing to be honest, there's no use in praying for unity because our actions work against the prayers themselves.

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We might, from time, experience a false sense of unity among some, but not the sturdier, broader unity that we need to address the challenges that we face.

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Now, to be fair, we don't always know where the truth lies and there's a lot working against the truth now, but when we do know, when we know what is true, it's incumbent upon us to speak the truth, even when, especially when it costs us.

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The third and last foundation I'll mention today is foundation for unity is humility, which we all need because we are all fallible human beings.

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We make mistakes. We say and do things that we later regret. We have our blind spot. Believe it or not, guys, she is at 10 out of 15 minutes.

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So she did dignity, honesty, and humility. Yeah, and she doesn't have a standard for truth.

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So she says that the sacred texts, she refers to as our traditions and their texts. So in that, she would lump together the

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Quran, the Bible, the Talmud, the Bhagavad Gita, and any other religious texts that someone happens to believe.

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The problem is Surah 929 in the Quran says lay in wait for the

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Christians and the Jews, and if they refuse to pay the jizya, then you can kill them. So if that religious tradition holds that you can tax

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Christians living under Sharia law, and if they refuse to pay the 10 % tax, that's a death penalty under Sharia law.

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There's not the same standard of truth that could build a society. So she is trying to create a unity without truth.

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As much as she calls it honesty, she's not referring to an absolute standard of truth. She's referring to the sincerity of heart.

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So if someone is sincere in their belief and really holds it, then that, she thinks, is a basis for unity, but that's a lie.

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So ultimately, she's building on a sand foundation. When Jesus said that the house that's built upon the rock will stand when the winds and the waves come, this woman is building a house on sand.

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How many faiths were at that event? She said there was multiple faiths. She said all the faiths here have the same ideas and ideals, respecting dignity.

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She wants so badly to unify everyone and everyone to be okay with what they believe, and she somehow thinks that you could believe this and believe that and believe so many different things.

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And it's somehow, when you look at it on the surface, it's all really the same thing. No, Jesus says,

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I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. So that means when

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Jesus says that, every other way that leads to the Father or what people think leads to the

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Father, it really leads to death. So that's something that she doesn't really understand.

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And it's so funny because the snippet that I saw, my brother who doesn't,

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I would say like call himself someone who has a lot of faith. He doesn't read the word. He doesn't go to church.

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And he texted me a snippet of this woman and said, hey, Tim, and he sent it to my other brother too.

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I think this poor woman at the podium is really lost. I'm like, yes, yes, very lost.

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She's deceived into thinking that she's actually doing the right thing. I had the same impressions.

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Yeah, but what she's doing is really wrong. I mean, the whole thing is wrong.

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Why is, you know, it's clearly a woman up there. Why is she giving a homily if she's a woman and teaching and exercising authority over men?

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I mean, that's a whole different story. So everything about it is pretty much, you know, my brother had a good viewpoint.

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She's lost. Yeah, yeah. I noticed a lot of pagans, cultural

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Christians, and folks that just really don't know much about religion.

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And I'm not sure where their, you know, what their real beliefs are. But I noticed a lot of them in shock and awe that there would even be a woman in a pulpit, especially the

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National Cathedral. I mean, there's something inside them just telling them, hey, this doesn't look kosher, pun intended.

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Yeah, so Timothy, 1 Timothy 2, verses 15 and following,

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Paul forbids a woman to teach or exercise authority over men. So the expositing of the word, it's not the place of a woman to exposit scripture and explain the meaning to a man in that authoritative kind of way.

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So here she's standing in a pulpit and she's opining her position.

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She's lecturing on humility, but humility is biblically defined. This is the one to whom

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I will look, the one who is lowly, contrite in heart and who trembles at my word.

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So the rejection of biblical teaching is the farthest thing from humility.

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It's easy to just say, be humble, but if people are doing unbiblical things that are anything unscriptural, that's not humble.

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That's really raising a hand and a fist against almighty God. Before I hit play again,

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I've gotta note this. This is really funny. So AI, I love AI. AI, we need to be very worried about and we need to have discussions about large language models and how they can be corrupted by liberal ideas.

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However, sometimes the flat out lack of spin is just so amazing.

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And here's what I got from AI when I just did a quick search on what religious denominations were in attendance here.

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And this is what it said. More than a dozen religious leaders spoke during the interfaith service, including those from Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and Hindu traditions.

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Then it says this, this is the AI. Notably absent from the invited clergy with speaking roles were conservative evangelicals who are among President Trump's strongest supporters.

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Wow. How ironic. Yeah. Because you can't go, well,

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I mean, would it be okay for, Jeff, would you go to an interfaith service and teach?

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No, in college I had signed up for this ministry group called Student Ministry Coordinators. And one of the first big ministry events they wanted to do was an interfaith

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Thanksgiving where Muslims, Jews, Christians all came together to do an interfaith religious service.

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And I went and resigned my position, which also meant giving away the money, the scholarship money that came with that at Epic College.

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But I can't do that. It's not the same God. You don't worship the same God. And if you don't come through the blood of Jesus, you don't come into the holy place.

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There is no other way. There's one new and living way according to Hebrews chapter nine, and it is the blood of the lamb.

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So those who come through a different way, according to John chapter 10, these are thieves and robbers.

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There's really only one gate and that's Jesus the Lord. Now, Franklin Graham was there. He, I think, is a good conservative guy.

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He prayed for them. Evidently, he didn't preach the gospel. That's okay. Not every opportunity that you have in life is a gospel opportunity.

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But what you always have to do is tell the truth. You always have to -

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Well, I think Franklin Graham, actually, Jeff, I'm not sure, but when we can put a correction in, we can detail this in the notes.

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But I don't think Franklin Graham was at the interfaith service. I think he was only at the inauguration.

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Okay. So this is a separate service from that. Yeah, yeah. This is a separate service that they did.

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This is not part of the inauguration. This is the following day, the day after. Okay. So yeah, so this isn't even that.

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All right, so maybe they didn't have any conservative voice. Now, what does that say about Trump, though? Why would Trump sign off on this if he had a right to determine these things?

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Well, let's see. On the first day, he got all that ceremony. Five o 'clock, he got home and negated 78

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Biden policies and then followed up with another 60 executive orders of his own, all while having a press conference.

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And oh, by the way, he's the oldest president in history. Yeah. I don't know, but I don't know about, but my new diet is

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McDonald's and KFC. So just saying, because I want to be like Trump. Yeah, oh, nice.

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So you're saying that basically he probably didn't even have a hand in choosing. That's my guess. That's my guess.

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That's probably right. And I've got a guess, too. I mean, again, he's not a Christian. We're praying that he becomes one.

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I mean, into the furnace. He is definitely in the furnace, so let's see what happens. Hey, maybe it was an eye -opening event for some of the

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Trump people to get a perspective like that and to be able to see like, whoa, some of these religious leaders or people are so far off.

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There might be a spiritual war going on. Maybe it'll open some eyes on, this woman's saying so many wrong things.

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Maybe it'll open up some eyes to be like, whoa, I definitely don't believe that. So back to the homily, and she's opining about humility, but this title, the

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Right Reverend Marion Edgar Boudet, how is that humble to take the title of Right Reverend?

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Doesn't the word reverend, isn't the etymology of that the revered one? The Right Revered One, Miriam Edgar Boudet.

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You wouldn't enjoy being called the Right Reverend? Oh my goodness. Jeffords, or what?

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No. All right, let's go to the video again.

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We got four minutes left, see what happens. Send our biases, and perhaps we are most dangerous to ourselves and others when we are persuaded without a doubt that we are absolutely right and someone else is absolutely wrong, because then we are just a few steps from labeling ourselves as the good people versus the bad people.

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And the truth is that we're all people. We're both capable of good and bad. Alexander Solzhenitsyn once astutely observed that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, not between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart, through all human hearts.

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And the more we realize this, the more room we have within ourselves for humility and openness to one another across our differences, because in fact, we are more like one another than we realize, and we need each other.

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Unity is relatively easy to pray for on occasions of great solemnity. It's a lot harder to realize when we're dealing with real differences in our private lives and in the public arena.

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But without unity, we're building our nation's house on sand. With a commitment to unity that incorporates diversity and transcends disagreement, and with the solid foundations of dignity, honesty, and humility that such unity requires, we can do our part and in our time to realize the ideals and the dream of America.

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Let me make one final plea, Mr. President. Millions have put their trust in you. And as you told the nation yesterday, you have felt the providential hand of a loving

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God. In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country.

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We're scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican, and independent families, some who fear for their lives.

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And the people, the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals, they may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.

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They pay taxes and are good neighbors. They are faithful members of our churches and mosques, synagogues, widower, and temples.

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I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.

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Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we were all once strangers in this land.

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May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth to one another in love, and walk humbly with each other and our

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God for the good of all people, good of all people in this nation and the world. Amen.

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And that's all, folks. Did you know that you can have permanent teeth in just 24 hours? That's right.

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Yes, did you know you can have permanent teeth in less than 24 hours? Man, we're commercial -free here.

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They try to sneak one in on us on TDHP. We don't do that here. Oh, I might have to delete that, or I get to click a different box on YouTube.

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Yeah, so actually, you know what? It wasn't as bad as portrayed in some of the clips, where they really only went into the last 30, 60 seconds of her homily.

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But what'd you guys think? I thought she tried to erase the line between right and wrong.

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With - Yes. Yes, in order, it was a postmodern presentation at the beginning of that last segment.

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And then she transitioned that into a defense, in her mind, of LGBTQIA.

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But it's such a weird shift that the left does when they want to blame people for standing on the truth.

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They assume victimhood. And from that, build upside down.

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So somebody feels a threat. And from that, we're to govern how we treat or what the policy is to be.

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So if an LGBTQ person feels a certain way, that should determine what the policy is, as opposed to truth, governed by God's word, giving us our policies and our feelings falling in line with the truth.

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So it was an upside down. Up is down, down is up. Sweet is bitter, bitter is sweet.

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Light exchanged for darkness, like Isaiah said in chapter five. So yeah, it was really a wicked twisting of the truth there.

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And that's with regard to the LGBTQ. What Trump did is he gave an executive order that says that there are two genders, male and female, which means that children playing sports or say a high school volleyball game, there won't be a man spiking a ball into the face of a girl, which is good and right and loving.

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In the bathrooms, there won't be ungodly things happening in that way.

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But she's now twisting who's the victim in this case, namely the little girl who's having a volleyball spiked in her face by a man.

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She's twisting that around and making the victim, the one who has confusion about the sex that God made them to be.

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So it's upside down ethics. It's ungodly.

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The last issue that she spoke to was immigration. And there again, the breaking of sovereign laws of a land instituted rightly according to Romans 13, coming across the border illegally is now celebrated and protected rather than the law being upheld.

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And somehow she considers that the loving thing to do. So yeah, her whole presentation is built on sand.

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Ironically, she brings up that shifting sand, but because she's not a believer in the word of God, she just thinks it's another faith tradition and all other ones are equal because she doesn't stand upon any kind of rock.

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She's just blown around by the cultural winds and therefore becomes an enemy of all that is right and good.

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Yeah, you talk about the truth there. She said, there's no right and there's no wrong followed by the truth is.

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So I said, what? There's no right, no wrong, but the truth is. So she went from subjective, subjective to...

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Yeah, truth as a category should be objective, but in postmodernism, they still use the term.

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They just mean your truth. You have Joe, average Joe's truth and Pastor Jeff's truth,

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Pastor Tim's truth. Everybody has their own truth. So they - Yeah, postmodernism for those who aren't familiar with that term.

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It's the rejection of certainty. Postmodernism is the rejection of absolute standards that all things are situated, that it's relative to the standpoint.

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It's standpoint epistemology. You know things by the place in which you stand and your experiences, your opinions, that is the fountainhead of all truth.

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So it's a rejection of truth itself as a category. This is what a great book on this was written by John MacArthur called

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The Truth War. And it really shows that the battle for truth happens even ideologically, that there is a such thing as truth, an absolute truth, which would require an absolute standard, who is

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God. Did postmodernism start in the late 1800s or was it a little bit later?

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I think philosophically people would date it later, but I think the seeds of it are as early as Kant, Immanuel Kant.

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It's like the Kantian hermeneutic is probably the fountainhead of it. Well, that's a whole nother episode.

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We've done some other episodes, guys. If you wanna look for that, we've done, I think we've done a couple episodes on postmodernism.

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If we didn't, we will. So Tim, what'd you think of the last couple of minutes there? Yeah, that's the clip that my brother sent me.

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So I think he rightly discerned that this lady is lost. I hope that everyone sitting there had that discernment, but I can see how it could be so confusing for some people and affirming in the worst way, because what they really need, a lot of those people in the audience probably was truth.

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And what they got was the opposite. They got some really weird communication from that lady that just, a lot of it didn't make sense.

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It went from one thing to the other and it was kind of forcing a woke agenda at one point.

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So I think a lot of people probably didn't appreciate it, but her whole thing was about unity and how the rock that she's standing on is unity.

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That's wrong. The rock that she should be standing on is the faith and Jesus Christ and the word of God, but that's not the rock she's standing on.

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She thinks it's a rock, but what she's standing on is actually sinking sand, like Jeff said. She said too.

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Yeah, yeah. That was one of her little biblical sprinkles. Yeah. She didn't quote a single verse, but she had biblical sprinkles all over.

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Yeah, like the foreigner coming and we were once foreigners. Yeah, that was from the

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Bible too. But yeah, she picked and choose what she needed to force her agenda instead of looking at the text and changing herself and then communicating what's in the text.

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If she did all that, she wouldn't be up there in the first place. But yeah, the whole thing, if I had to rate the sermon or homily or snippet, whatever you want to call it, two thumbs down, zero out of 10.

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I'll give it two. Two more. Yeah, sorry. I feel bad that woman's even up there, just was embarrassing.

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Yeah, and it's not loving. For Trump to make war on drug cartels is loving because drug cartels are sending fentanyl into our cities and into our suburbs and all over the country, killing

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Americans. And for Trump to make war on that, that's a good and righteous cause.

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He actually gave an executive order designating the drug cartels, certain ones will be designated as terrorist organizations, which then gives authority to go after them in a way that can actually stop it.

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So that kind of strong approach to it is actually the loving thing to do.

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It's gonna save lives. You know what I think is the most unloving? Is for the wicked men in the

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Episcopal church to put up on the front line of the battlefield, a woman who

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God designated for other glorious things and not for being in the pastorate.

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What say y 'all? Such a good point, Joe. Such a good point. Yeah, the abdication of masculinity and the roles of a man result in women trying to take those.

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That's what feminism is. It's stepping into the role of man. And when the masculine role has been abdicated, he's really hating his wife because he's gonna put her in a position where she's going to embarrass herself, which is exactly what this woman did.

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So I don't know if she's married or not, but she's taken a role that was by God defined as masculine in so many passages in the

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New Testament. And she's rejected that authority, but she doesn't have a headship covering of a godly man to lead in the home.

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And I think it might be worth noting, cause we did an episode on feminism. I think it might be worth saying that when you look at the root of the problem in feminism, a lot of it isn't starting with the women.

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It's the weak men letting it happen. I think that's who God is ultimately gonna hold accountable, especially these people's husbands.

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It's the man that's gonna have to answer to God first. And I think mostly we see that even in the garden when

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Adam and Eve sin and eat the fruit, the man is questioned first. He was right there passive, letting his wife eat the fruit.

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And that's the problem and will be because it's part of the women's curse that they try to take that power, but it's the weak men being passive as probably the biggest issue in feminism is probably at the root of all of it right there.

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Yeah. I think you're being too kind when you say weak. I think they're maniacal. I think they're deceitful. I think they have an agenda to abuse women, right?

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So I mean, think about feminism. So many people are steeped in the idea that feminism is good for women.

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Feminism has destroyed women. We're about to come, statistics are saying some awful things that are gonna happen in the next several years where we're gonna have 40 % of all women unmarried and without children.

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We have 25 % of all women on antidepressants. And I've heard,

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I don't wanna quote anybody, but I know I've heard some very scholarly, biblically sound people say, marriage was to protect women more so than to protect men.

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I mean, some people would say, well, I'll make sure that you knew who your kids were, but that's such a simplistic view and it negates

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God's involvement at all. So, but marriage was to protect the woman, right?

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And it was an agreement that we are, she needed protection by God's design.

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Even before that though, it was not good for man to be alone. So he wasn't in a complete situation there.

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So the term help meet, in the Hebrew that's edzer genecto, edzer genecto.

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And the idea is a help meet for him. She's corresponding to him in ways where they differ.

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So, what's that? In ways where he lacks. In ways where he lacks, yeah.

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He brings things he doesn't have. Yeah, he can't reproduce. He can't bring offspring into the world, but together children can come into the world and life comes from that beautiful union of marriage.

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So what you have then is God's beautiful design for completeness and each role is a good and godly thing.

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It's a beautiful thing to be celebrated. So in the garden, what happens is a complete reversal of this, where Adam is supposed to be leading his wife and she's a help meet to him, but instead she comes and leads him.

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And it's a reversal of the created order. So it's supposed to be God at the top and then man leading and the beasts of the earth are down underneath the rule of humanity.

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But instead of that, it goes exactly in the opposite direction. The beast of the earth in this form is a serpent and that's the devil.

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He exerts himself over the whole thing, over God and man. And the woman following the lead of the serpent leads her husband in sin.

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And the result then is the fall of man when he takes and eat from the forbidden fruit.

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So all of that to say, God's design is actually so beautiful and so perfect. When men and women fall into the roles that God has made for us, it results in human flourishing, families that flourish, children raised with joy in the

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Lord, the fruit of the spirit in them. And that is the result of God's design.

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It's so much better than the worldly substitutes. Yeah, one product is life and the other product is death.

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I mean, like when a husband and wife comes together and they're fruitful and multiply, you can see all the life that comes from that for generation after generation.

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But when a man and a man comes together, how long does it last? They both die. There's no kids. It brings death.

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So I think that's something to consider that if the whole world turned gay, there would be no world.

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But if every man and woman, came together as a husband and wife relationship and did it God's way, how beautiful would this world really be?

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Right. Amen. So true. So well said. Very well said. So we're gonna have a lot of fun with Trump over the next four years, guys.

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So he's just getting started. We toyed around before the episode of going through all his executive orders, but I'm sure we're gonna be talking about them in the near future because the

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Bible is political, isn't it guys? Yeah. It's not only political. No, no,

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I'm not saying that. Right. It does talk about politics in many places.

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Truth has stumbled in the public square, Isaiah 59. And even the tone and rhetoric of the

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Bible is interesting. She talks about in the little clip that she played about mocking and carrying on that way.

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How does Elijah speak to the prophets of Baal? He says, where's your

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God? Must be going to the bathroom. Paul speaks to the

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Galatian heretics. He says, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves because they were preaching circumcision as a way to be saved.

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Cut it all off. Yeah. Jesus uses strong rhetoric as well.

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He says of Herod, that fox or in Matthew 23, if you, I mean, 20, yeah, 23.

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When you read the rhetoric that Jesus uses there, there is a time and a place for strong rhetoric to oppose evil.

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And you see it all through the Bible. So that's part of how you have to tear down high places. You gotta be happy warriors that fight a culture and bring victory.

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Yeah. Well, I think you guys did that today and we are all set for an exciting new season with a new president and new things to come.

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Let's pray for president Trump. Anything we should be praying for guys that comes out of this today before we close the show?

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Yeah. Let's pray for a new era, a new era for the United States of America. Make America great again, that we are now in a place where we can flourish with religious freedom in this country.

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Let's pray for all of these executive orders that he's carrying out to make it through the Supreme Court because all of them are being challenged.

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There are 22 states challenging one of his executive orders. So there's gonna be a battle.

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And this is a battle for the future of the land in which we live and where our kids grow up and our grandkids.

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That's good stuff. All right. Well, guys, if you see a brother down. Pick him up.

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Pick him up. If you see a high place, tear it down. Tear it down. Good show, boys.