Holocaustianity? Really Joel? The Weirdness Continues, Plus a Little Soteriology101

Well, greetings welcome to the dividing line it's the week before Christmas everybody's very very busy

Running around my wife's doing lots of cooking and baking and stuff like that.

She made me She made me Texas sheet cake cookies I had never heard of Texas sheet cake cookies before but she found a recipe and so she made me

Texas sheet cake cookies. I Couldn't eat and she comes walking in with the

Texas sheet cake cookie she had just made and Offers it to me and then stops and goes.

Oh, I'm sorry. You can't eat this Thank you Made it easier to get to that 34 hour mark.

But anyway yes, busy getting stuff ready for the journey out to the

Grandkids home and it's easier for us to go out there than for them to come to where we are

These days such a long trip. But anyway Interesting stuff to get to today thinking about possibly later in the week doing the

Call in zoom show type thing because everybody seemed to enjoy that and It's A lot easier for me.

I mean, they're a little more stressful as far as the program itself is concerned, but You know, you don't have to be queuing stuff up and things like that.

So anyway Interesting developments anybody who was around What 18 months or so ago

In the summer of 2024 when The stuff blew up Tobias Riemenschneider and Joel Webbins Church in Texas and former member of Tobias's church that went to Joel's church

Member shared this meme It's a very common meme

With a little girl asking her pretty mommy a Question and you can put anything you want in there and so somebody had put in what is the

Holocaust and the mommy's answer was it was a time when the Jews were forced to do manual labor and they said it was killing them and This had led to a conversation and you know the recording and all the rest that fun stuff and In in the months have followed

Especially toward the end of 2040 at 24. I said, you know what? there's going to be this conference in April of 25

And all the big names in this movement are coming to it and that's gonna clarify stuff and then

I said by by the end of 2025 so by New Year's Eve of 2025

I think positions are going to be very clearly delineated and I honestly hoped against hope really that some of that might involve people turning from this stuff and Abandoning it and recognizing how foolish it is and but that's not really what has happened.

I mean, I'm sure there are Some who have done that But in reality a

Trajectory has been plotted and is being followed at a higher rate of speed than I expected so when you think back to what we were talking about in 2024 and then listen to this clip now

There's been some Criticism that well This is from right -wing watch and so they're a left -wing organization.

Yeah, they're But this is an unedited clip directly from Joel Webbin so who cares who posted it

That's irrelevant The question is is it accurate? Has it been

AI generated? Has it been AI edited? No one has said anything

About that no one's made that claim So think back to 2024 think about what we were talking about and now listen to Joel Webbin very recently and see if See if that end of 2025 prediction

Wasn't pretty much spot -on That historical event is no mere historical event.

It is a religion. It is an ideology It is a worldview It is a weaponized bludgeon that has beat generation of generation after generation of white young men

Into believing they're not allowed to have a future and it is time for holocaustianity that false wicked satanic religion of Holocaustianity to fall and crumble like the idol that it is somebody raises an

Islamic 90 -foot statue in my state Which they have outside of Houston My prayer is that that statue would be ground into dust let no false

God be worshipped on American soil This is a Christian nation and Christ is King and the same principle applies to a more powerful false religion that has had

America my nation in a stranglehold a lot longer and a lot tighter than Islam ever has or likely ever will and that is the

False -religion not of Islam but holocaustianity and all its idols and all its high priest and all of its altars and all of its sacraments must be ground into Dust and if that requires some young men to use language that makes you feel a little icky.

God bless it that his Okay Holocaustianity you weaponized used as a legend to What was the terminology

Convince young white men that they can't have a future What?

Well, I huh That doesn't make a lick of sense.

I mean You know, we've been seeing this it's all the Jews. It's all the

Jews. It's all the Jews Holocaustianity sacraments evil satanic religion

I Mean he went on and on and on and on now. I don't know what young men he was talking about that said icky things

May have that been while ago when some of those chat group messages came out that were vile and things like that that demonstrated you can be a political conservative and still, you know

Want people killed and things like that and Didn't that guy win in Virginia that had wished death on his opponent's family and kids.

Yeah, I think he did anyway tells you something about America these days but What on earth is

Holocaustianity and how has it been used as a bludgeon? Notice notice the audience young white men young white men you're trying to convince them that they have been made victims and Since they've been made victims their futures being stolen from them and I'm gonna stand for you and you just need to what?

Follow me You need to give me clicks Maybe hit the patreon button somewhere down there

Whatever it might be and I sit here and go young white men

Young black men young Hispanic men young Asian men young Eskimo men, whatever

What has actually been used to hold them down to beat them down what's been weaponized against them the

Holocaust What are you even babbling about In comparison to the degradation of The secular worldview naturalist materialism

Darwinism in comparison Holocaustianity isn't even on the charts.

It's like Well, but there are secular Jews. Yeah, I know and there are secular everything else secularism sadly transcends a lot of those categories

But You can't fight a battle when you've got the complete wrong enemy in your crosshairs and Again, think back to 2024

Think back to what was being said then now listen to this now and go Whoa That is where he was going

That is what they were saying Yeah Very clearly being said now now

Again, I've said before I I had hoped that there might be some Repentance returning some common sense that would be expressed by these guys hasn't happened and as he sits there in his

Studio, there's nobody there to reign him in Sorry, he's surrounded by yes men.

They're all dependent upon him so they're not gonna they're not gonna say anything even if they Even if they feel like ooh, that's went a little bit too far.

That's not really where we need to be Doesn't make any difference They're not gonna say anything about it.

So He has cut himself free of everybody who could in any way

Say to him Joel you've lost balance you've you've you're going after stuff that makes no sense

And by the way, he did admit I responded to this on X last night or yesterday afternoon, maybe

He did admit there are no us 90 -foot Islamic statues outside of Houston Um, there is a

Hindu 90 -foot tall statue outside of Houston And I had one guy go.

Okay. This is all as a demon. Anyways, I just don't know. I don't I don't care, you know

That's the kind of comment made by people who are Have no intentions of ever being useful in Bringing a message of hope and peace to either

Hindus or Muslims And Would only bring confusion if they tried so He confused a

Hindu deity With something from Islam Which means he doesn't understand

Tauheed the oneness of Allah the detestation of images statues all that kind of stuff and the number of times that Muslims in that disputed areas areas in Pakistan and India where Hindus and Muslims end up coming to blows

The Muslims have many times blown up Hindu shrines Buddhist shrines

Destroyed the images so someone familiar You know a little bit with Islam would have known that But I don't think

Joel is familiar with either religion for that matter, but he admitted it.

Yep I misspoke got that one wrong Okay, fine But the whole

Holocaustianity stuff there is no such things. There are no sacraments.

This is all It's all about the Jews. It's all this that and everything and look we're just asking questions

Isn't that What's her face that met with Erica Candice yeah,

I keep forgetting her name's everything That's what Candice only I were just asking questions.

No, you're not No, you're not You're making specific claims

You are slandering you are Asserting don't don't say you're just asking questions.

You're not asking questions It's perfectly fine to ask questions It's the heart's motivation and Look, I asked questions two years ago over two years ago and I still have questions about the

October 7th incident a nation

That has spies in every government in the world Including our own that could pull off the

Hezbollah pager thing Wow that had people at the upper echelons of the

Iranian government a Nation with that kind of intelligence operation could get completely surprised by people's whose tech level is a hundred and fifty years behind them and it just happens to happen right before A national election that Netanyahu was certainly gonna lose and that has resulted in You know a complete realignment in the

Middle East and The utter destruction of Gaza. I mean, it's a wasteland

You might as well let Trump go in raise it and start building casinos because there's almost nothing left there

And I wouldn't put it past him That's meant as a joke, but you never know

So I have questions about that You know,

I I was really like How does that happen? Gliders, how do they get gliders that close to the border and you don't think

Israel's got everything under observation They're constantly so I ask questions like that and I'm not a quote -unquote

Zionist. I Do it's embarrassing to see pastors going over there and what what did they have this thing recently a hundred different pastors that the

Huckabee brought over and and they're doing all this, you know, it's all this dispensational pre -millennial

Bless Israel you will be blessed stuff and Yeah that That Had this is

Israel in it for Israel first and foremost. Yeah. Yeah Do I do

I think they're that that that's the most Their pure is driven snow and their foreign policy or their internal policy no

Vast majority of them are secular Jews. They're not religious Jews it's

They're they're LGBTQ friendly out the wazoo Tel Aviv's one of the most

Tel Aviv's like San Francisco as far as that stuff's concerned So No, this is a secular state

Are there observant Talmudic Jews? there are there a minority rather small minority and I don't believe that Jews have the ability to somehow telepathically communicate with all of the

Jews and We're gonna do this despite how different we are and Silly so asking questions and going.

Yeah, something doesn't smell right here It's perfectly fine

But that's not what's going on here when you start talking about holocausty entity a

Satanic false religion with sacraments and priests and stuff like that You're going way beyond we're just asking questions

Sort of related to that was what happened over the weekend Bondi Beach in Australia And of course

I noticed that the Australian authorities They they will not address immigration they will not address the threats of Islamic radicalism

But they will pass and undoubtedly will pass more restrictions on the ownership of guns and The Australian people are already defenseless.

They already turned in their weapons. And so How many you know,

I didn't ask Um Hold on, you know what?

Did you did he did he did he? How many miles of shoreline?

Does Australia asking grok here really quickly and it has 80 results and Okay Not including offshore islands you have 35 ,000 821 kilometers 22 ,000 258 miles

According to Geoscience Australia other estimates for mainland range from 34 ,000 to 36 ,000 kilometers 21 ,100 to 22 ,000 foreign miles.

That's a lot of shoreline a lot of shoreline and You're you're not gonna be able to patrol all of it, which means that guns will get in if people want to get in there

Most Australians don't want to spend time in prison. It was a former prison camp anyway

So the market wouldn't be all that big but somebody who wants them can get him there which means the

Australians are defenseless and You know, it's true in the

United States. This is true every place else when Seconds count the police are minutes away

And one police when I believe was seriously injured fighting for his life right now They're not used to dealing with people who are shooting back

And that's what happened in that particular situation and I can't help but point out

The amazing video Can you imagine all the stuff in history we would have videos of if we had had cell phones all along Can you imagine if if there were cell phones in the

Roman Senate, you know on the Ides of March We would have known exactly who stabbed who anyway

The brave Muslim man, it's a Muslim man Who disarmed one of the shooters snuck up behind him grabbed him?

Around the head around the neck Managed to get the gun away from I guess he got shot multiple times afterwards

Not by that guy but by I guess his son if that was the father it was a father -son shooting team so Anyway, it has been appropriately pointed out that he was a

Muslim he is a Muslim and One thing

I'm certainly seeing these days is Is When people when people just want to give vent to prejudice

Bias hatred racism They will stop making proper distinctions and so I've seen a lot of people talking about we need to ban

Islam from the United States Okay Not sure how you're gonna pull that off exactly but Is there a difference between Islam and Muslims and for many people there isn't

So we can talk about Salafi Islam and ask the question

Can us a believing Salafi Muslim Truly submit to the laws of the

United States or are they committed to? The constant undermining of The Constitution United States and laws the

United States are all Muslims Salafi Are all

Muslims The term frequently uses radicalized May not be the best term to use but are all

Muslims radicalized are all Muslims consistent in Their practice and in their beliefs even if it even if we're talking about let's say

Let's just say there is an absolutely Consistent Unquestionable Islamic Orthodoxy do all

Muslims understand it that way and are they consistent with it? That's like asking about Christians, you know are all

Christians united on this that other thing we all know That there are a lot of people who call themselves

Christians that we would go not even close Same thing amongst

Muslims. So here you had a guy He sees what's going on he sees someone killing people

He's not blind so he could probably he probably guessed that these guys are

Muslims and yet he disarmed one of them and Paid the consequences for it.

I Doubt too many people are going to give him a whole lot of kudos.

I've seen some but the people who have this

I Refuse to differentiate between Islam and Muslims attitude then

I'm gonna want to talk about it and That doesn't lead to real in -depth conversations on our part so we certainly

Recognize that what took place at Bondi Beach was a specifically anti -jewish act of violence and that kind of Anti -jewish violence is common in Europe these days probably underreported massively and there are a lot of people that are

Absolutely set on promoting that mindset attitude that perspective

All over the world all over the world. So we pray for the people. I my understanding is there was a

Holocaust survivor Survived the Holocaust To die in that way

Wow That's um, that's pretty amazing. It really really is

One other thing before you completely leave Joel Webb in here, sorry about that There was another one here this one

I think is very close to current because he's We have a

Christmas tree on the left side and that looks somewhat like a

Christmas sweater So probably pretty recently but I'm not gonna play this whole thing, but It's interesting

Joel Joel's view of himself. Listen to what he says here. This is the way that I've worded it over the years

They don't kill the prophets for being right They kill the prophets for being first They don't kill the prophets for being right

They kill the prophets for being first And that I assure you from experience is a timeless principle

That I have quickly learned over the years through the school of hard knocks

Plenty of people can say Plenty of things in fact

Even the same things in fact, even some of the same things in precisely the same way but six months later, mm -hmm and be just hoisted on shoulder top and seven day parades thrown in their honor and here's a check and you get a check and come to this conference come to this

TPUSA event. Oh snap. He's got a real for you. Yeah. Yeah, we've got this opening

We've got this opportunity you get a show on the blaze, you know, and that's just kind of the way it goes

Jesus told us that Okay, so, um, so Joel was the first one to be jumping on this train

What about Stone Choir They were years ahead of Joel and and there are a lot of people

The last Stone Choir fans that are like Joel just deals their stuff anyways, but he's not original

But what's this all about and people like Nick Fuentes They're way ahead of Joel.

What's what a prophet he's actually claimed to be a prophet now in the sense of leading the way

To the exposure of the Great Jewish World Conspiracy. I Don't know.

Oh, yeah. Oh Yeah, there were there've always been those people out there but This idea of you know,

I'll say it first I'll take all the hatred and the rest you come along and just repeat what I'm saying. I wish there was someone in That studio that can say come on Joel really

Remember what we used to talk about on this program. Maybe we could get back to that someday.

I don't know Doesn't seem to be anybody there. So So there you go.

There you go. All right Shifting gears here.

Uh This is interesting Um, I'm gonna

I'm gonna read a longer one, but this one was yesterday and It's in response to Ron Hensel who writes a lot of good stuff

Ron Basically when you when you see a long post incoming from Ron He spent a lot of time on it.

He's put a lot of effort into it so This is a teary ology 101 lighten flowers respond to something to Ron Hensel said

He says I find it humorous When Calvinists say things that they think we'd oppose because they still don't yet understand our actual point of contention

We believe God elects those who are saved We don't believe he elects them unconditionally

Unilaterally or arbitrarily Before they are created for reasons. He never reveals

He elects to save believers now once again provisionism is a modern shallow a historical incoherent inconsistent system that has no meaningfully

Qualified leaders To give it any kind of serious chops

Okay It's a hybrid of Arminian ism with a real big dose of Calvinist derangement syndrome at the core.

I mean Provisionism runs on Calvinist arrangement syndrome. That's that's its fuel

So to Misrepresent it given it's still evolving and that there is no um

Agreed upon central This is how we're all gonna see if you're gonna be a provisionist then you're gonna be a part of this

It's too young yet, and especially with lighten flowers representing it

He just loves to throw So many different allegories out and Make that the new thing he's running with and then you know three months later.

That's not what he's writing with anymore Okay, so what does that lead to But you do need to understand what is being said here because this is at least one pretty consistent thing

God cannot choose Elect to save any person

God can only choose In response to Human faith

So that's so he says We we believe

God elects those who are saved and how you get saved by faith

So that that election has to do with people who? Do something first God doesn't get to choose them

God only gets to choose what to do with them There's a huge difference we believe that God does choose to do with his elect as he sees fit in the sense of Conforming them the image of Christ forgiving their sins adoption regeneration sanctification all the aspects of the

Christian life, but the issue is provisionism says

God has provided for anyone To receive eternal life, but it's completely up to them.

There is no It's not unconditional it's not unilateral it's not arbitrary

God is simply saying if you believe that I will do this That's that's the extent of God's freedom and that's why once again.

We've said this many times before Provisionism does not have a truly developed and consistent

Theology proper it is based upon man and what man does that's absolutely central

So that's why people like Leighton flowers struggle so horrifically

When they have been challenged by people in the public square to present a coherent

Systematic theology that Starts with God.

I mean go grab. I don't think I have well. Yeah, I've got I've got crude. I'm suspect geology over there

I've got Cunningham's historical theology volumes one and two. I know

I had those And I've got Institutes over there as well and There is a standard format that is followed

And it might start with revelation a lot of the confessions of faith by reformed groups do

But the first big topic to be handled is God and so you're dealing with God's knowledge

God's relationship to his created world all that kind of stuff and You start there and then you

Probably move into his acts of creation Mankind then you get into Anthropology proper study of man

Homology the study of sin, but you start with God That's what systematic theologies have always done, but that's not what?

Provisionism does and I I've said it many many times before I'll say it again

I don't see how you can hold this position and continue to affirm that God has

Exhaustive knowledge of all future events if God knows everything that is going to happen

Then his knowledge cannot be invalidated So if on day

X God says this is gonna happen on day Y and when day Y comes along if that Fail to happen then

God's Word has been invalidated. He's been made a liar And they're open theists to go right

Agree it doesn't make him a liar. It just means he's limited and so far

Provisionism has been loath to say that However, when he says we don't believe he elects them unconditionally

Again, when we when we hear that we hear elects them so it's a choice of Individuals, but the provisionist starts a completely different view of man

The provisionist starts With a man who is fully capable

Outside the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit of God To do the good work of faith and repentance.

That's there. That's the man they start with that's the center part of their theology everything else just is subsumed under this

Capacity of man to believe freely because We don't believe he elects them unconditionally.

Here's what I found That wasn't my foot. Did you hear that? You didn't hear that it bugs me when electronic stuff starts talking to you and there's no indication.

I would Maybe I said seriously, I don't know but that came out of my

Mac A voice just came out of my Mac and said here's what

I found which makes me think it was that thing That I won't mention now

But I Every time that happens and it's happened on my phone. It happens in this of that.

I'm just sitting here going How fully compromised are we It is it possible that the powers that be you know,

Brock and XAI and chat GPT They already know everything I'm sorry,

James. I can't do that. Yeah, I can't open that door how

But it's it's it happens and it freaks me out and that's that's why

I am absolutely Committed You you cannot rely upon electronically originated data

To convict somebody of anything because today anything can be fixed.

I I don't know enough about my computer to be able to tell if someone has gained access to it there might be some who can but I Think most people would admit

They're getting better and better and better at it at all at all times and You know as soon as you hand your computer to somebody as soon as they plug something into it.

It's not your computer They can put anything on there. They want and that take a day that they want off.

They can alter it. They can change it The stuff that AI is already doing and I'm not one of those people saying no, we've got to stop it.

It's too late It's that are the Chinese gonna stop it No, they're not going to We're in a race now and I think at least some people are starting to wake up in the

US going Why are the Chinese building all these power plants well, there might be reason for that because you need power to run this stuff and but you can't put the genie back in the bottle, but you can

I Feel like me and everybody else are way behind the curve you know a little bit like once the printing press was invented and then there was a there was a curve there and then once you get electronic stuff and mass printing and radio and almost seem like we're a little bit behind trying to catch up and You know part of me is going how do you is it is it possible to positively influence the development of AI I Mean could there are there all sorts of super positive things that can come from AI Obviously, can they be all sorts of human life that could be saved

Medical advancements by AI sure could AI destroy the human population.

Yeah But that's true. That's true nuclear. You know, there's there's such a thing as nuclear medicine if it had been no we can't go there

That wouldn't exist So the real question is what what worldview is being involved here and by the way just in passing when

Joel Webbin calls Holocaustianity a world view a world view what?

Does he even know what is necessary to construct and be qualified as a world view?

I don't know What the world was I talking about before my computer started? Talking to me.

I don't know Um, where'd that thing go, uh,

I was where'd it go I Hate when this happens X's decided to start randomly scrolling stuff again.

I hated when that happened before You know what

I just realized something let me get back to Leighton in just a second I skipped something I apologize I mentioned that Joel Admitted to the

Hindu Muslim thing, you know, that might have just been a misstatement

Probably actually indicates some serious ignorance on his part there, but I Had said

Here here's what I had written and a lot of people seem to appreciate what I said here

Where'd it go, yeah, here's here's what I said He mentioned the

Hindu statue I said young men have not been bludgeoned by the

Holocaust They have been bludgeoned by secularism and all its Christ -denying creation degrading forms These guys have completely lost the plot lost their balance and is sad to watch them plummet to their own destruction

I would I would like to see the Lord Hanuman statue That's the one outside of Houston the 90 foot tall one 90 tons ground to dust

Here's the difference if the Muslims took over They would grind it to dust with explosives and violence as has happened in places like India and Pakistan years past Like I said, they've blown up shrines and statues and all sorts if these

CN guys take over They would do the same thing because they have the same motivations the only way to truly have that statue ground to dust to the glory of Christ is

If it is taken down and destroyed by the people who built it in the first place and they do so Because they have come to know

Jesus as Lord and are repenting of their idolatry Acts chapter 19 verses 16 through 20

Check out what was going on in Ephesus That is how Christianity works. The gospel subdues hearts and families and communities and nations not politics not clickbait

Not anti -jewish rage or the ignorance that confuses the Hindu God with something Islamic So a lot of folks picked up on that and said yeah that that would be the

Christ glorifying way So I don't have to sit there and look at that hideous statue and go.

Oh, that's beautiful. That's wonderful. This is This is how democracy should work. No, this is a this is a blight upon the land the

Founders this nation would never have allowed that no way would they have allowed that but they're not here anymore

Something major has happened since their days in fact in the past hundred and fifty years there has been a

Fundamental reorientation of the worldview of the leadership of the

United States universities educational system we're a nation with blood on our hands and We hate

God So why wouldn't we allow foreign gods to be?

Worshipped within our borders. We don't believe any of them exist anyway so just as Rome Rome didn't have any problem with all the different gods as Long as you acknowledge

Caesar is Lord. You can worship any God you want Just that easy That's where we are we're back in pagan

Rome and we can't pretend that we're in some Christian nationalist state

Where we have Christian magistrates anymore because we don't I forgot to Forgot to silence a certain mute one hour.

There we go We have jitter chatter going on and my watch is going ding ding ding ding ding

We don't have Christian magistrates we have secular atheist magistrates and I'm telling people

Somebody mark this down. Okay, someone write the date down easy to remember

December 16th 2025 As I get older tomorrow, I'm not old enough to enjoy government benefits yet, but getting darn close

December 16th 2025 I said it let there be

Another major electoral swing and there will be in this nation to where the

House and Senate Are taken over by the Communists a

I don't think there'll ever be a free election again at least not in most states and be

These people have already told us what they're gonna do. We saw it under Biden We will see it on steroids under AOC Well the dumbest woman

I've ever seen in my life. I Love when AOC goes, I think Elon Musk is one of the stupidest billionaires.

I've ever seen. It's just like oh Or the one from Houston, what's her? Yeah, she would she made some real great statements recently

Wow There are some real winners over there and when they have power They will not be restrained by anything.

The Supreme Court says they will pack the Supreme Court get rid of it immediately Maxine jr.

Oh, yeah, cuz Maxine waters has always been an incredible embarrassment and I don't care what color they are

It's the worldview that creates this not the not the ethnicity Anyway, write it down Write it down You Know I've been seeing all these people go.

Oh, you know, we're winning again. We're winning again If we're not changing hearts and minds, we're not winning

I'm sorry. I'm a Scottish realist not philosophically But I'm a

Scotsman and I'm a realist and if we're not changing hearts and minds, we're not winning It's temporary.

It can be overturned Very quickly and these folks will make it we'll be darn sure they never get kicked out again

Just mark it down that's where we are So anyways, I'm sorry that I had to do that and back to latent flowers, um,

I Wanted to read that one so you could hear specifically what he was saying

About oh

Do I mention this I guess I don't know why webin Joe boot

Had quoted that same thing that same thing I played for you from Joel webin that was on right right wing watch

I'm not sure why he chose to go after Joe, but Joe and I have both spoken at Joel webin's conferences within the past few years and both of us are opposing him publicly

We're not the ones who changed very clearly he is the one who's changed and Seems to admit it but he's basically saying

Dear Christian you need to ask yourself Why does a Christian minister choose this specific clip a clip curated by a leftist political organization that hates

Christ in our country? To showcase my tragic downfall What does it matter where it came from?

Are you saying it's inaccurate? That's a pretty long clip we played Are you saying that there's something in the context that?

Fundamentally alters the foolishness of what you said If you're insinuating that then come straight out provide the evidence

Because what was said was foolishness. There is no such thing as holocaust Ianity You're confusing holocaust

Ianity with secularism So well, you're not confusing. You're just ignoring the real thing and Replacing it with something else

He said does this clip deny the Trinity justification sanctification glorification no, nobody said it did but Whenever I play a clip from Kenneth Copeland, he doesn't deny those things either

It doesn't change the foolishness of what he's saying. Does it it says

Simply challenges. Oh Great. Oh Thank you.

You get me up And we got seven minutes I'll survive

Lesson learned. I don't know what was in that But I Just realized that that was left there before I left on the trip

So I you know what that was that was simply, Arizona water That's been allowed to dehydrate into what's really dissolved in it to begin with I just want to hear everyone to hear me laughing

You see what I put up with people if I want sympathy I gotta look it up in the dictionary man

See the way the light was hitting I thought there was a lot more water in there and I Hadn't even thought about the fact that that's that's the water.

I left here when I left on the trip Alrighty I don't need any salt today.

I've just got a full daily amount worth there. Oh Back to the thing here.

Sorry, I'm not gonna get very late and flowers is behind all this because I'm not gonna get to almost Anything else he's gonna say

He said that his clip simply Challenges the notion of the Holocaust being weaponized as a religion to suppress young men in the

West from recovering their heritage How? That it's just inane

It's just stupid well, you can't question this what If you can't see

Joel if you can't see that Darwinism is

Significantly more central to the destruction of the worldview and thinking of young men in the

West You are a fool You're an absolute fool.

I Mean, that's just so obvious Holocaustianity but for many professing

Christians This is heresy all caps a denial of their true religion Judeo Christianity utter foolishness again

You you realize how utterly indefensible this would be if you tried to defend this publicly, right?

I Mean you're totally dependent upon people having already bought into this you could never prove it

Logically astonishing absolutely astonishing then check this out

PS Joe boot will be speaking at TPUSA. Oh And There's obviously something meant to be added there

And I ain't get touch anything with that because the drama there

With certain I mean, can you imagine I mean what a tragic murder and What has happened since then just I Don't know it leaves

It leaves you stuttering. It really does All right, um, where'd it go?

I Don't know sometimes things just Scroll away and disappear.

Oh, that's because I'm in the wrong one Looking for my bookmarks and they're over here too many things

All right So I want to make sure to get this covered and then he wrote something specifically me then

I'm not could get to today we'll have to do it next time around but and I will actually get to it because I'll start with it and so I won't keep being dragged back to something else

We don't this is back to latent flowers, we don't believe he elects them unconditionally

Unilaterally or arbitrarily before they are created for reasons. He never reveals. He elects to save believers. Notice. He is equivocating on the term election

He's equivocating purpose Intentionally, what do

I mean? When Christians Have talked about election down through the centuries

They're talking about an act of God whereby he chooses individuals

Unto salvation when he says he elects to save believers.

He's denying that God elects anyone the salvation That instead the election is to what believers will receive so When he uses the line, we don't believe he elects them unconditionally.

What what do you mean? See that only makes sense if we're talking about unconditional election

That is that God chooses someone not based upon foreseen merit actions on their part anything else

That's the reform view of election. That's not his view of election He does believe he elects them unconditionally because the term elect simply means if they believe

I'm going to do this Not because they fulfilled a condition Unless he makes faith the condition that how many times you heard them screaming about that You're just grabbing the lifeline not fulfilling not working blah blah blah blah blah so When he says we don't believe he elects them

Unconditionally unilaterally arbitrarily before they are created for reasons. He never reveals.

Well, he does reveal This man was never a Calvinist. Sorry if he was he was the worst

Calvinist that ever lived and I've known too many people who knew him back then to even go there, but He does reveal his his reasons there they are insufficient for late flowers

But Ephesians one makes it very plain with his purpose. That's the praise of his glorious grace It's laid right out right there.

It's specifically said what his reasons are and it's a like right over top but He's he uses in two sentences he uses the term elects in two different senses

Without even indicating that and deceiving people in the process He we don't believe he does

X Elects them this way. He elects in a different sense to save believers

So he chooses to do something for them, but they have to fulfill a condition first, but it's not it's not personal

It is generic if you do this, then this will follow thereafter

That's that's what's going on there. So Inconsistency incoherence there, but like I said, he he did write something to me.

That was really nasty And we will get into that Well, it began once again

You prove yourself unqualified to provide a credible critique of provisionism as you clearly don't understand our views well enough to provide a worthwhile argument

We have demonstrated since 2016 that this man does not have the

Intellectual credibility to make the claims that he makes and we've documented it over and over and over again

I'm not the one that has to go running to try to find Greek scholars After a debate to try defend the things

I said, okay. I'm not the one that has to do that. That's lighten flowers I'm not the one that confuses

Clement of Rome with other Clements from church history Pseudonymous Clements and everything else he does that not me

Okay, he's the one foolish enough to believe Ken Wilson's duped stuff. Okay, it has been utterly shredded.

Okay I'll put everything I've done up against Layton flowers any day. I'll just leave that to the audience to decide but that's how he starts

So we'll get to that one and and we have a we have a Calvin Robinson update

I didn't get to that today. Sorry spent too much time with Joel Webben, but we will get to Calvin Robinson When we come back

Lord willing on Thursday Well, I'll think about it.

I mean this may get so old by then that it wouldn't really be worth doing it So we'll see.

Well, I'll give some thought to it and see what we do on Thursday because next week

Um When is it's Christmas Thursday, yes so Yeah well

Yeah, if I if we if I followed up on all this stuff on the 22nd and we did open phones on the 18th

Oh, that would probably work I'm probably work because I've got something on the 19th And we're going out to the

Easter pageant. And did you know that that Aaron Shabbalah falafel? Is gonna be doing a thing uh at the apology of studios on the saturday after christmas the 27th on the new mormonism he uh super bright young guy and He's been doing a lot of stuff with break blake osler and the new mormonism this developing

You know mormonism is changing and it's eventually just going to go um all sorts of different directions like Bad popcorn that you leave in the microwave too long.

Um but uh, he's gonna be in town and so I think that saturday night.

We're also going to be out at the christmas lights. So We'll be out there. Uh, the 19th and the 20th.

I will be anyways, um So lots of stuff going on got to keep everything straight.

Okay went a little went a little over there sorry, sort of ran around in circles today because I When you're doing it just straight off of your bookmarks and twitter sometimes stuff gets

Moved around and that's how it works. Anyways. All right. Thanks for listening to the program today. I hope it was helpful to you