Atheism examined-- Christian/Atheist Debate

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Is it okay, let's say, to molest a child? No. No. Is it because we say so or is it because there's an objective moral standard we all need to follow?

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Objective moral standard. Objective moral standard. But what if I create a society that says it's okay to molest children and to rape them and beat them?

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Is that acceptable? No. What if I get a larger society that overwhelms your society and we become the larger society?

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Does it make it right? No. Because we're larger. Because we come to a consensus on it. So the question

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I have to ask you, if your view of reality, your view of, say, morality and logic, are simply based on the consensus of men, okay, isn't that totally arbitrary?

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What if I just establish a civilization that makes them contrary to yours? Well... Let me ask you a question.

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Is raping children wrong? I do. I feel it is. I feel it's completely wrong. If I rape a child, is it okay if I say that I believe that it's right?

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Not to me, it's not. Okay, not to you, but it's okay if I do it? No, it's not okay. Why? Because it's not okay to me.

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It's wrong. It's evil. To me, though, it is. Well, there are people like you. Right.

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That think it's okay to rape children. Should I go to jail? Well, I think you should. Right. But why?

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Shouldn't it be arbitrary? Well, because the majority's with me and we can enforce it. But what if I create a large majority that says raping children is okay?

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Well, then we've got a lot of power. Do you guys see the arbitrariness and inconsistency of the material worldview? It wants to...

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One second. One second. It has to borrow... It has to borrow... from my worldview about an objective moral standard in order to make sense of its own.

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And when you press and challenge this worldview, it cannot make sense of itself except to say, well, it's wrong for me.