Police Conflict at the Abortion Clinic

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Missing a step there, sir. How you doing, ma 'am? Sorry to interrupt you. Hi, Mr. Garnett. Would you be willing to come up and chat with my supervisor?

00:05

Absolutely. Thank you. All right. Nice to talk to you. Nice talking with you. Hey, Sarge.

00:19

What happened today?

00:26

Yeah, sure. What happened? He was driving out here, and he was hurling abuse. Who was?

00:32

This gentleman in the truck here. He was hurling abuse at the people here, and I said, don't be a coward, come out here and argue your point.

00:38

So he parked his truck and came out, and then we had to, well, he screamed at us. He wouldn't argue his point. Okay. Has any officer spoken to you yet?

00:46

Okay. Can I get your first and last name, please? I'd appreciate it. What's your first name? S -Y -E. S -Y -E.

00:53

T -E -N. T -E -N. Capital B -R -U -G -G -E -N -C -A -T -E.

01:03

It's all on camera, by the way. Okay. No, that's fine. So was anybody ever physical with each other? No. Was it just guys just being verbal?

01:09

Well, some of the escorts stood between us, and they were talking to each other. or something. I don't know. Okay. But I don't think...

01:15

No, nobody was physical. Okay. And what church are you with, sir? I'm from Canada, actually. Oh, awesome. But I'm with Apologia Church, who's out here, so...

01:23

Okay. And how...

01:33

You know what time you got out here today? I'd say about 8 .30, quarter to 9. Have you ever been here before?

01:40

I have, yes, a couple days ago. Is it usually like this to you? Or is it usually... No, actually, I had a good conversation with Errol the other day, and also with Jocelyn as well, which is also recorded, and it's also online, so...

01:49

Okay. So basically, all we had was just verbal, going back and forth.

01:56

That's it. Well, it wasn't much forth. It wasn't much back. It was mostly forth. Okay. It was mostly him hurling abuse, and I would love to have a conversation with that gentleman, but...

02:05

Okay. But he won't. I highly advise against that. I don't know. No, I would love to, because I love him. That's why we're here. Okay.

02:11

But we would advise against that. I understand that, ma 'am, but the thing is, I'm not here to take your advice. Right. I'm here to do what the

02:16

Bible says. Right. Okay. We're speaking to the opposite. I understand that. So we're... He has to be willing to do that as well.

02:25

What's that? He has to be willing to do that. I understand. That's fair. I'm not going to force myself upon him. You know how long you're going to be out here today?

02:32

Well, I'm not sure. I don't know how long the rest of the group, but I imagine that myself and the camera crew will be packing up in about an hour or so.

02:39

Okay. Once my supervisor is done, we'll figure out what to do.

02:47

For sure. You said you're at what church again? Apologia Church.

02:53

Apologia? Yeah. Where's that based out of? You know, you'd have to ask one of the other fellows. I'm just a...

03:02

South. North or South. Yeah, I just punch it in my GPS and then I go. Do you have any kind of Christian background at all?

03:10

I do. I'd encourage you to go there. He's a great preacher. What about... It's a pretty long trek for you to come down here from Canada, huh?

03:19

Yeah. I love the unborn. I flew, actually. I was actually in the east coast of Canada teaching people how to defend their faith for a week and then

03:27

I flew out here for a week. So, it's a pretty rewarding career. No, not really.

03:33

No? Why would you say that? Well, you can see the abuse that's hurled upon us. I was a boiler operator by trade.

03:41

I was making all kinds of money going scuba diving every year. It's been nine years since May and I haven't been on a vacation. I went one week to Holland, but that was it.

03:48

Have you dealt with this for investigative purposes? You know, I think... I think there are other ways to be happy.

03:55

I don't do this to be happy. I do this because it's right. And I think, you know, history will reflect that as well, that there are some people who stood against the murder of the unborn and some people who stood for it.

04:05

And I think that people will look back at this time in history and just be amazed that there are people who actually stood for and supported the murder of the unborn.

04:11

I think that would be just... I think it would be unheard of. So... When you usually do this, do you usually stay in one location or do you go...

04:22

Well, the thing is, in Canada, it's different. In Canada, you cannot get within a block of an abortion clinic and most of them are in hospitals.

04:28

But here, I believe that they just stand at this location. How are you doing, sir? Good, how are you? Hi, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. So... Go ahead.

04:36

Yeah, there's... I'm just listening. Just verbal at this point. That's all we got, so...

04:42

It's all recorded, too. If there's any question about that, you can... I'm just making sure with you. I understand it's recorded, so that's...

04:49

And I'm going to convey to you, and you can pass along to your people if you want, just to convey to this gentleman here.

04:55

I'm not emotionally involved in this, okay? I wish you were. You know what? Not my fault. Because you know what?

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It's legal. And that's all we care about. Killing Jews was legal, too, sir. Just let me finish what I have to say, and then we can talk.

05:06

It's legal. That's all we care about. Then you guys, it's legal what you're doing, as long as you aren't disruptive, as long as you don't come on property.

05:14

We understand that, sir. Once that happens, we get involved. And that's what people were alleging here. But again, we're not emotionally involved.

05:21

I don't care, you know. If we can't figure it out, if we get people that says, this is disruptive in nature, and we get witnesses that say it's disruptive to their peace, the business owners, someone's going to go to jail.

05:32

That's fair. Okay? Yeah, that's fair. And the other thing I conveyed to him, you have your belief system, okay?

05:40

And I don't care what this guy says to you. He's never going to change your mind. That's correct.

05:46

And some of the people, you don't know his story. Actually, I do, sir. Well, whatever it is, you are not going to change his mind.

05:53

No, I can't change his mind. God can, though. So let's just walk around, hold up your signs, do your chant. I love him enough to tell him the truth.

05:59

That's your truth. No, truth is not arbitrary, sir. Okay, I'm not going to debate you. That's fine. That's fair. He doesn't believe in it no matter what, so let it go.

06:08

Well, I've seen a lot of people in his situation who have actually been saved, so there's hope. There's hope. But we understand each other.

06:14

I appreciate it, and I'm sorry that you had to come out here today because we try to abide by the law. I understand that, sir.

06:20

But we do appreciate the work you're doing because the thing is, if something were to come down, then we would ask for your protection.

06:25

So I do appreciate that, what you're doing. Thanks very much. Just don't block the driveways, don't come on property, stay on the sidewalk, and we'll be fine.

06:33

I appreciate that, sir. Have a good day. Thanks. Apology at church. Check it out. Excuse me.