North Africa Report - Part 2 — George Verwer

This actually is going to be part two of that report from this Middle East trip that some of you have already heard if you haven't. Copies are quite abundant and you can easily get one. We've certainly seen the mercy of the Lord on this trip and traveling many thousands of miles in that old coach over treacherous roads, especially the last six days we weren't in the coach but in our OM vans in Pakistan where the driving is just beyond description.

And yet in God's mercy, last night, one mile from our home, we almost had a head-on collision with a very fast speeding car that went out of control, headed right for us, fortunately crossed in front of us and smashed into the fence of a golf course.

Spiritual Warfare and Constant Prayer

But that isn't a reminder that the spiritual warfare is not just out in Pakistan. It's right here and to be constantly praying, in fact, as I came on the plane, I thought wouldn't it be ironic if between here and the house we had the real test of what it's all about.

Let's just pray and commit this tape and this time together to the Lord. Our Father, we thank you that you are merciful and those of us who went on this team across to North Africa and the Middle East and Pakistan sense very much that we went together with the body here and that without those who worked here on the coach and in the typing of the letters and in every other aspect of the ministry that this trip would not have been possible.

And Lord, we don't want to focus in on man this morning but we want to focus in on yourself. We're not interested in glamorizing travel because there is no great blessing or special reward for those who travel.

But we do give you the praise that you are working in these different countries and that you have thrust out a host of workers who are laboring, often totally unknown, to reach so many with the word, your holy word.

Lord, I pray for that Muslim on the plane that I was so extensively able to share with. Muslim missionary from Pakistan to the United States. Lord, as he goes back to America, now a U .S. citizen, somehow that you could show him the absolute following of that which he is spreading, Lord, guide us now together in this time of worship and this time of report.

Even though we will not be outwardly, verbally worshipping, may we worship in our hearts as we hear what you are doing, as we hear the challenge. Guide us now in Jesus' name. Amen. I think most of you know one of my favorite texts is when one rejoices, we all need to rejoice.

And we have come back from this trip very, very much rejoicing. I've made many trips, but I think next to the first time that I went to India, which revolutionized my life, this has proven to be one of the most challenging and stimulating journeys that I've ever taken, of course, that which you've just finished always seems to be more important than that which was 15 years ago.

The Lord knows. Unfortunately, the moment I finish, I must go through that door as I'm trying to get to Worthing by 11 o 'clock, which will not be easy today, to attend the funeral of a very dear friend, Dennis Clark, who went recently to be with the Lord.

We've prayed for him. We haven't seen him much over the years, but he always quietly and in a very practical way has supported this work in his praying. It was the summer before last. We had perhaps the best time of fellowship we've had in years as we got together in Worthing and walked up and down the beach, sharing many areas where perhaps we never saw eye to eye, but other areas where God had made us of one heart.

Pray for his wife, his family. Some of his children I know are away from the Lord Jesus and it would be wonderful to remember them in prayer. Well, part two of our little report, if you've heard it, left us in Cyprus just before I left Cyprus, getting the old coach on the ferry.

Syria: Travel Through a Tense and Hostile Country

I shared with you the challenge of North Africa. That still very much burns on my heart, and I hope that prayer is increasing for that part of the world. We sailed, however, on this ferry to the most difficult country that we were in this entire trip, the land of Syria.

Syria is controlled by a minority of people who are a break off from the Shiite Muslim movement. Here you have a large country. Well, it's not large in comparison to places of India, but compared to, say, some of these Gulf countries controlled by a minority group, which is an extreme Baathist government.

And so the land is in unbelievable tension. The Sunni Muslims who make up the majority of people there are opposed to the present regime. They just blew two of the major buildings, killing I don't know how many, just before we got there.

And it seems that one of the main right arms of the president of the country has hired a whole army of thugs to control Damascus. They wander through the streets dressed just like villagers. The only mark is that they carry submachine guns and they're under strict orders to shoot anything that in any way looks irregular.

So when we drove into Damascus in our bus, it's good that we didn't know too much about this. We knew the place was tense and we're glad we came in in the daylight. Some friends were going to put us up for the night and they just shared that one bus driver recently had just made one wrong turn and got shot right out of the driver's seat.

You might want to remember Alan Witt as in about a week's time he drives back through Damascus. I told him to make sure he doesn't make any wrong turns and also to go through daytime. It's a miracle we ever got into Syria.

That was the only country where it really seemed it was finished as far as taking this vehicle could have been a small vehicle. But they saw the word Bedford on this document and they thought this was a Ford.

And Fords are blacklisted in Syria because of the Ford Motor Company dealing with Israeli. And they just said in no way would we take this coach through Syria. Already Syria to get off that ferry is enough red tape to boggle the imagination.

We just committed this to the Lord. We walked from the port, quite a long walk into town and back three or four times praying, crying out to the Lord. It seemed that maybe plan B was going to go into effect right there, but it cost a lot of money to put it back on the ferry.

And somehow, even though they never did understand that this was a Bedford and in the documents they were passing back before the words Israel were written, the top man somehow made a special concession and let us drive this Bedford through Syria.

We went to Aleppo first, which is one of the few places where the believers are willing to take the risk of having any foreigners. There are hardly any overseas personnel ministering in Syria at all. It's so tense and anybody in contact with overseas people immediately the police are on.

But in Aleppo, these very bold believers who had some kind of relationship with the police there and have told them openly about the foreigners who come, not only wanted us to come, they insisted we stay several days.

That's when this trip started to get extended and insisted that we park the coach right next to the church, plug in our electricity. Thanks to the mains unit installed in the coach, because it always helps to get free electricity.

And I think one of the highlights of the trip was the fact that we were able to take into Syria over 600 powerful Arabic books. I think it would have been worth taking the coach alone on this trip just for that one delivery.

They weren't smuggled. They were just so caught up with all this Bedford business. They never bothered to look under the seats of the dining room, which can handle about a thousand books. And the believers wanted all of these books.

Some of them we picked up in Egypt, books that just cannot get into Syria, outstanding books and many good books in Arabic, unbelievably low distribution. And I would ask you to specifically pray for one of the main purposes of this report.

I hope some of you will write a few things down. I know it's a cold morning. You've just made it through the heavy snowstorm and you probably lost your pen along the road. But if you could write some of these things down, that is the idea of giving this report.

But pray for those Arabic books. Pray for May Moussa, the ex-Omar and his father's the key man in the Bible Society in Syria. As they really had a vision, we ministered there for three nights to just a small group.

And I've shared about Syria last year because we were there last year, so I won't go into great detail now, but the church is alive, small but alive in Syria. One of the itinerant ministers was there the same night I arrived, really seemed to be an anointed man.

He goes around and visits a number of small assemblies in churches and yet has a full time secular job, which is often necessary in these in these countries. We then after Damascus came after Aleppo, by the way, we drove down into Jordan, though we wouldn't want this put into print.

Christian Book Ministry and Prayer Needs in Jordan

There is the Christian bookshop there that has a new location. And I was really impressed with that ministry. I think our brother Habib is more fulfilled than he's ever been. In Jordan, we just have a couple of nationals.

We have a number of ex-Omar's there, but there's no international team at present situation still very sensitive. But brother Habib, some of you know him by another name, is really fulfilled and encouraged in that shop.

They have a wide range of powerful books in Arabic and English, an excellent location. Sales have doubled since they changed location. And that's a key prayer target. Another key prayer target for Jordan is the new modern version of the Arabic New Testament put out by the Bible Society.

It had a mistake in Philippians when it first came out and brought down the entire wrath upon the church. There was even unbelievable things were planned for the Bible Society. This is always the great tension in these areas.

Now they changed that Philippians passage and we feel, some of us, it's not an official O .M. feeling, but some of us feel this is a valuable New Testament because Muslims can understand it more than the old Arabic New Testament.

But it's an unbelievable controversy. And I, in one meeting, didn't know anything that much about it, was not even thinking about it. I was giving one of my normal messages about extremism and talked about these people in America who get carried away.

The main thing becomes defending one translation of the Bible. One of the arch enemies of this translation was in the meeting. Boy, did he come at me the next day. So I do sometimes leave my ripples. They're not always for the sake of the basic message.

That's a big thing there. Will Longmaker, a Weck brother, very close friend of ours, is the head of the Bible Society temporarily in Jordan. And our brother, Jamal Hoshway, is now out of O .M. and in the Bible Society.

They are doing a great work. Many ex-O .M .ers all over the world are in the Bible Society and God has given us a unique relationship. They had just come back from Lebanon, a country we were unable to fit into this tour, where they were working with a few from YWAM going into schools, distributing the scriptures.

By the way, we were in this part of the world when they blew up, was it the Syrian embassy? In fact, the brothers on that distribution team, including Jamal, had just come back from a village north of Lebanon and they wondered what all the streets were very, very quiet.

That was the day that terrible car bomb blew that embassy up. What a volatile, intensive time of the world it is. Of course, as we started to read in the Jordanian newspapers about the annexation of the Golan Heights, we thought we are certainly in an interesting part of the world.

One of the Jordanian believers said to me, and he convinced me without much argument, brother, this is where you need to be. This is where the action is. That brother, by the way, is a very key believer there and he's the first Jordanian to come on O .M. way back in 1963.

He tells this story wherever he goes. He's a key layman. He's an architect and he really wanted to meet this George Burwer. This is way back in 63, a few years ago. And of course, he had this image, you know, some dynamic, large, older, mature, sophisticated, well-dressed Christian leader.

And he had just finished shaking hands with some skinny, poorly dressed character who had welcomed him from Jordan. And he turned to Antoine Deeb, who was with him now, one of the most well-known evangelists in that area.

And he said, you know, when are we going to meet George Burwer? And Deeb said, there he goes. He just met him. I don't think we ever had a conversation again until some years later when I visited Lebanon or Jordan.

Pray for him and other believers in Jordan who really do want to reach out to their non-Christian neighbors. And traveling through this area, you just realize how difficult that is, how complex and how difficult that is.

The Trinity and Communicating Christian Doctrine to Muslims

In fact, in one of the house fellowships that I met in, I had a burden not to give the kind of messages I usually give, but I had this burden to just give this message on the 10 basic doctrines of the Christian faith.

I felt so strong that this was a message for that night. And I started right off with God and the Trinity, Father, Son, the Holy Spirit. And again, I was in trouble because this particular house fellowship will not use the word Trinity and they will not talk about three persons.

They will only talk about three manifestations. And this is a group we're very linked with. And I'm not saying I'm in no way condemning them, but it shows the terrific problem believers have in speaking about God in three persons.

They have trouble even speaking in three manifestations, as I was witnessing extensively to a Muslim on the plane yesterday. That's the thing that just when you get to Jesus as the Son of God, by the way, this man was from the Armadillo movement.

They're not even allowed to do Hajj to Mecca because they're considered extremists. They have their own prophet, came after Muhammad. They're the ones that teach that Jesus Christ never died on the cross, went to Kashmir and his tomb is in Kashmir.

And they are the strongest. They're like the Jehovah Witnesses of the Muslim world. They're all over the world, even in Israel, that causes even more hate to come from some of their own people. They believe all the prophets, something I learned about Islam or at least their variety yesterday, all the prophets were perfect.

None of them ever sinned, including that one from Pakistan. So we got into interesting discussion. What a challenge it is, and I just want to insert this here, that every one of us, wherever we are in the world today, there are opportunities to speak to Muslims about Jesus Christ.

You don't have to go to the countries I went to. In fact, if you go to some of the countries I went to, like Saudi Arabia, you probably won't speak to any, to any great degree. One ex-alember there who's been trying to witness to his students, I did not mention his name, shortly after giving any kind of witness, called to the carpet by the head of the university and said, any more of that and in 12 days you're out.

And these people in Saudi Arabia who have gone there to witness, many of them are very, very frustrated. Pray, because some of them really want to just pack it in, it's so hard to make contact and to be able to share if you're trying to hold down a job.

Which is something, of course, that most of them are doing, that's why they're there. These countries are very difficult to get into. In fact, one of the reasons, again, our trip was extended is instead of four or five days in Jordan, we were eight days in Jordan just trying to get visas, one of the key visas.

Obtaining Visas and Entering Kuwait and Saudi Arabia

Fortunately, we already, thanks to Maywey, had our United Arab Emirates visa. We wanted to get our Kuwait visa, now here's Kuwait, here's the road that we took along the pipeline, an excellent road, littered with tires, old cars and pop cans.

The entire road looks like you're driving through a dump because the Saudis have so much money and it's so hard to get your vehicle helped out in the desert, if you have an accident, they just leave. And sometimes they pile them up like little monuments, one car on top of the other, tires on top, it's like little altars to the automobile industry.

But we really wanted to go to Kuwait, it was a key Arab assembly, we knew we could have contact with many believers. A .G. Philip, who led the work in Kerala for some years, is there. But to get a Kuwait visa is just out of the question.

People wait there, going into that office every day for a month to get a visa to see their own child, see their own child for three days. Somehow, the Lord, I had to sit in that office hours, hours and hours.

I delegate most things, this kind of thing is not so easy to delegate. I fortunately, I was reading Martin Lloyd-Jones' book through again on spiritual depression, its cause and cure, and when I was heavy in the chapter, when I was just about ready to tackle this man, I was in that chapter about not panicking.

And I will tell you, that was a beautiful crucifixion experience, two, three, four days. And when we walked out with those visas of people in the outer office, they thought, what in the world? How did these people get the visa to Kuwait?

And when we got to Kuwait, our key contact there, one of them who works in the Pakistan embassy, walked into the top office to one of the top men and got us a seven day extension, boom, just like that on a transit visa.

Now, the Lord, again, heard our prayers to get us into Kuwait where we spent Christmas. It was a five hour ordeal to get into Saudi Arabia. They look for liquor, they believe that almost, they believe all Christians are drunkards.

One of the greatest problems we have in communicating to Muslims is to break down prejudice. They have unbelievable ideas of what a Christian is. So they searched our bus for liquor, drugs, of course, they think that's another one of our big things.

And of course, they're looking for weapons and pornography.

Five hours, inch by inch, unscrewing. Little things around the inch, unscrewing.

Little things around the bus. This was something you wouldn't believe. And when I marched my wife off into a little room to give her a personal search, I thought that was going to be not the end of my wife, but emotionally the end of the journey.

Because she had just read this book, some book about what happened to women when they got searched in Algeria. There was more than a search, there was more than a search involved. But actually, the Saudis are quite polite.

They're quite polite. They served us a full chicken dinner during this ordeal, freeze. And the thrilling thing is they were so looking for alcohol. And the funniest thing, this will be one of the funniest stories in history, though, and my wife's not going to like me for telling it, but someone in France, you know, the Brewer family is absolute, at least the older ones, myself and my wife, absolute tea toddlers.

But somehow, somebody in France, some missionary gave us a bottle of wine, cooking wine. And lo and behold, the Saudis found the cooking wine. You have never seen anything so funny as fine people trying to get this cork, which was absolutely stuck out of this bottle of cooking wine.

Finally, one man, the Saudi inspector, kept sniffing, sniffing. And he said, oh, it's nothing. And he put it back. The second time through Saudi Arabia, they found out it was the real stuff and they took it away.

An interesting experience. But the thing is, they were so excited about these other things, they didn't seem to worry about several hundred Christian books. And the Arabic books were wrapped in a poncho.

They actually handled them and put them back. Second time through Saudi Arabia, when the Arabic books got discovered, we had quite a fanfare. They put the Bible is illegal in Saudi Arabia. It's becoming legal now in in Doha.

What a contradiction, because many Muslims are saying that the Bible, including the New Testament, is a book that should be read and respected by Muslims. But certain countries don't agree with that. They took all these Arabic books, only about 50 or 20, put them in a suitcase, wrapped them with customs wire and sealed it.

We had almost a ceremony. I was able to give a complimentary copy to the head customs man of Revolution of Love and Balance in Arabic or Revolution of Love in Arabic. But we got through and most of those English books, of course, we kept selling out of English books.

Oh, how I wish I'd thrown in a few suitcases. Those of you who were here in the last minutes, we were loading the bus. We put in a lot of English books. I wish we had put in more. We ran out almost by Cyprus.

We got quite a few out of there. Praise God, their stocks increased a little bit. Never hurts to have a few extra books. We got a few more out of Assad, though his stock is not very good. Again, shortly after Kuwait, everything gone.

I was selling personal cassettes, music cassettes. Anything I could find by the end of the journey. And we had thousands of dollars in book sales and tape sales on this trip. In Kuwait, there's one especially live Arabic assembly led mainly by Palestinians.

Ministry Among Palestinian Refugees and Kuwaiti Believers

And I believe it was in God's province that we have Christmas with these people. You know, those of us in this part of the world, especially with certain types of people around and their particular belief about eschatology, we get a very heavy dose of pro-Jewish material.

And of course, we love the Jews. We want to reach that nation for Christ. We love all people. But it was good to get the other side of the story among these people who once had their home and their lands, everything right there and what they call Palestine and are now refugees in many different parts of the world.

I'm not here to make any more comments on that, except that we need to pray for the Palestinian refugees and settlers who, of course, are all over the Gulf. And because of the way these countries function, they never know how long they can stay.

Everybody in these countries. Just turn this tape over, we have another tape, make sure we get this. Most people in these countries and there are just hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis and Indians, Palestinians, all these lands I'm going to talk about in a minute, they're all very much second class citizens.

It's quite amazing, quite amazing. The Lord opened the door, even though there was no advance notice apart from one phone call the day before. These people really opened the door. They wanted us to stay Christmas.

We had the main Christmas evening meeting and Indians came in on that. A .G. Philip immediately lined up several other meetings among the Indians. And it was an encouraging time. Christmas Eve, one of the Arab brothers in the assembly in Kuwait came and said, you know, there are actually some books here because we had hardly any Arabic books and our book table.

People were wanting Arabic books. The main thing was Christmas Eve. He says, you know, an OM team, I think 10 years ago, had left some Arabic books here. I said, oh, he said, oh, I've sold some of them, but we have a few left.

Christmas morning, Ben, my son and I spent part of the morning going through six huge boxes of Arabic books, hundreds, books that now are selling for three times the price back in in Lebanon. How are we going to sell these books?

Because we knew we'd never get them through Saudi. So we had a really big book bonanza. Sunday night, we gave five books for one dinar, which is about a pound and a half. And to our utter amazement, almost every single book was sold that night as people took the vision of getting these, selling them to others, giving them to others and using them whatever way possible.

Here's books that have been sitting for a decade. And, you know, it just confirms a theory I've always had, that it's better to have too many than too few. Those books are worth three times as much. Of course, they were there by the Iran team.

The Iran team used to go to Kuwait all the time. They probably just had to be these books. A lot of De La Routan's books, Billy Graham books, other books, pray for those books. Something else was shared to me in Kuwait that I pass on to you for prayer.

Some group has been sending Christian literature through the post, good literature in Arabic, through the post. This is a controversy. I heard about it in North Africa. Some agree, some don't agree. But the believers, some of whom in Kuwait are quite bold, they were quite excited about this.

And they said the Kuwait authorities wrote an article in the newspaper against these tracts, warning people not to take them and read them and republish the full text of the tract in the main newspaper in Kuwait, including the address where to write in for Bible correspondence courses.

And, you know, the Lord, the Lord has his way of getting his word out as we pray, even though when we pray for some of these countries, we feel so hopeless or helpless. God works. In Syria, one of the most anti-foreign and tight countries in the world, somehow in God's providence, Charles Colson's film Born Again was being shown in the government's cinema in Damascus.

Gospel Literature and Film Ministry in the Arab World

And I remember 10 months ago when we left Syria, we were crying out to God for a film ministry in Syria. And you know how our film ministry is going. It's got one leg broken and the other one's temporarily being operated on.

So, you know, we haven't got any films in Syria. They like them. And we made a number of Arabic teaching films on this trip with one of the best interpreters we could we could find in Jordan. That's another story.

And we made a lot of other film along the way, which we hope to put into a film we can use in prayer meetings, especially some exciting shots in Pakistan. But God has his film ministry. And here, I think the government brought that film in to show what a terrible government America is, because they're very anti-American like most of these countries.

And here it is, a testimony of salvation in the main government sponsored cinema in the middle of Damascus. I don't think these things are accidental. I believe God answers prayer and these things happen.

We got another Saudi transit visa and we drove through this again. I don't want to mention any names. And I just share that there are many, many expatriate believers in Saudi Arabia and a majority of them have very little contact with the Saudis.

I think the best place to reach Saudis for Christ is London. And my burden and vision for the Arab world team is greatly increased. Of course, I'm sure there are things also happening there that I could not see on my short trip, but it is a very, very extremist and fanatical place with very tight control on everything.

We moved on to the United Arab Emirates, a very different story. There's still missionaries in the United Arab Emirates in medical work, pastoring expatriate churches, like one excellent brother is a pastor of the church in Abu Dhabi.

Right here, we visited Abu Dhabi. At a very encouraging meeting there, Arabs came to that meeting. Then we went to Al Ain down here on the border, very close to Amman. Here it is an encouraging meeting there and both Arabs and expatriates.

Again, ex-OEMers in all of these places pressing on and were greatly encouraged, seemingly by our visit, and then up to Dubai. Again, many ex-OEM Indians in Dubai. Again, the same situation, hard for them to reach in among the national people.

Pray for Irving Silvia. He is in Al Ain. He was in Saudi Arabia, that's why I found it very difficult there. And his great burden is the Baluchi people. And he's working on the Gospel of Luke in Baluchi, we had supper with him, sends his greetings.

There are many Baluchi people in the United Arab Emirates. And the minority, of course, are the people from Emirates itself. Some may ask why we didn't get back to England before now, or why did we end up going to Pakistan when ultimately we decided to go to Pakistan later on?

Oman and the Decision to Visit Pakistan

One of the reasons was that our brothers and sisters in Oman, another impossible country to get into in some ways. I wrote to one missionary friend. He wrote me back from my own parents' church. Don't come.

But the Indians are a little more aggressive than perhaps Americans. And they not only asked us to come, they insisted, they sent not only air tickets to Muscat, because we couldn't take the bus there to Oman.

They sent air tickets for Dubai, where it is Dubai, to Muscat and Karachi. That's $700 worth of air tickets. And on this trip, we weren't exactly flush with finance. We were trying to identify with the movement and its situation around the world.

So we were encouraged by that gift. They were not going to take no for an answer. We talked to them on the phone. And that's when we said, you know, if we're going to Oman, we are not going to miss Pakistan.

Here's Pakistan right here. We just spent a couple of days there. Again, very encouraging meetings in all these places we've seen. Well, certainly in total, a couple thousand dollars in their money. Come in and answer prayer and gifts, most of which will help also Alan's trip back.

Alan left United Arab Emirates three or four days ago and is somewhere here. I can only just add that the bus proved to be a greater help than I think we had ever envisaged when we took that step of faith to go by coach.

In fact, I've been able to, at least during the first and early part of the second part of the journey, probably do more letters than I've done in any one single period and maybe even in a couple of years.

I don't know. I can't keep track. But that was lifted a great burden off my heart, mind. I know I'm not supposed to carry these burdens. When you have hundreds of letters, some of which are very important and people that are very meaningful to you, you're carrying them around.

And by the way, never had any trouble with customs and security with my correspondence. There was so much, so many files, so many letters. They just didn't know where to begin. They rumbled through looking for pornography.

That was very, very encouraging because I was a little concerned when I discovered later some of the papers that I had in there, I especially got concerned. But we left the coach, flew to Oman and had two days there, spent New Year's Eve and New Year's Day there.

And I'm convinced that God has put some of these ex-armors in these countries in his providence, not just to work among the local people, but there's very, very growing churches among the expatriates in some of these countries and they are reaching out.

But also to support the work in India, we had tremendous gifts from the Indian brothers and sisters there. I used to judge these people pretty heavily that went to the Gulf. I thought about the fact my own father left the Netherlands as a lad, probably for similar reasons, which has meant a lot in God's providence in my own life.

But I believe that the Lord wants to use these Indians in the Gulf. And some of them really, really are going on for the Lord. This one we stayed with is an ex-engineer from the ship, very, very committed to the work of Oman and the ship, started his own business, linked up with Sheikh.

God is really prospering him. Well, without any question, Pakistan was the highlight, I believe, of both months. I think it would have been really a subtle trick of the enemy if I hadn't gone there. We flew into Karachi.

Pakistan: An Open Door for Evangelism and Literature

We were really running out of time. I have a meeting that can't easily be cancelled on Sunday. I was hoping to see my son, which I have been able to before he goes back to university. And I've done a whole separate memo on Pakistan already.

It's on tape. Gave it to May, by the way, if you can pray in any type of these days, contact May. But after going through so many of these countries where there are so many restrictions and so many things you cannot do and everybody's tiptoeing around and to come into a Muslim country, 90 percent Muslim country, where there is just unbelievable freedom.

There's a total freedom. You can't do everything and we have to be very careful. There are some cities in Pakistan where you can't really go yet. In wide scale literature distribution, the believers are very sensitive or not so much just the believers, but nominal Christians.

It's a complex country. But to just go out in the streets and start selling gospel packets the day I arrived and books and give out tracts was just like coming into, you know, some kind of a cool shower from a hundred degree desert.

And I have just been motivated beyond words about Pakistan, actually, for a couple of years. I've been speaking to my wife about moving there at least a couple of months a year. It was great to get back and use my Urdu.

Everybody was very impressed. I have six phrases to be able to travel on that train, a real slow train. They told me when I got there, I have to fly. That was two hundred and fifty dollars, just Karachi to Lahore.

It's not a small country. And they said they've been to the top man in the station. No way can anybody get on the train. Well, I learned from India that doesn't mean so much out in that part of the world.

And I got a contact and he got a contact and we got seat reservations on the train Sunday morning, got there Saturday at time of the team. We had a meeting in the Baptist Church, preached at the cathedral at eight o 'clock, seats eight hundred people, twenty five in a meeting, broke bread with them or took communion, got on the train at ten, twenty four hours to Lahore North.

But, you know. If you went out to the subcontinent just to get the train experience, it would be worth it, a little expensive because going through those towns and seeing the homes and seeing the people in mass, of course, because I've been in India traveling in the trains for several years and just, you know, memories came back like a Niagara.

But what what a challenge. And these people are so friendly, they're so willing to talk about Christ or anything. The man sat next to us on the train, assumed that he was a brother, kept referring to my wife as a sister and couldn't, you know, gave us from his food and just a tremendous wide open door for ministry.