Islamic Spiritual War #1 — Avi Lipkin

Israel in God’s Prophetic Plan

Well, what we wanted to do with this briefing was to lend some perspective on why things are developing as they are in the Middle East, and as I travel, one of the most frequent questions I get is, why is it that we watch so intently the Middle East?

And there are probably three main reasons for that. The first is the central role of Israel in God's plan. Most people may not realize that five-sixths of the Bible is all about Israel, from Genesis 12 to Acts 2 as a minimum, and much more than that, even Revelation 12 is really a summary from Genesis 3 .15 to the end.

And the key point that we need as Christians, we need to understand is that God is not through with Israel. Tragically, many have been caught to the contrary, but God has made irrevocable promises to Israel that have yet to be fulfilled.

Paul, in his definitive statement of Christian doctrine called the Book of Romans, hammers away for three chapters, Romans 9, 10, and 11, that God is not finished with Israel. They have a very clear destiny.

The entire history of Israel, their origins, their ups, their downs, and their destiny is all laid out in advance. And we need to remember that these irrevocable commitments in the Old Testament that God has yet to fulfill with Israel, he will.

To deny that is really to make God a liar. And if you'd like more background on this, we encourage you to review our briefing package called the Prodigal Heirs, which deals with the distinctives between the Church and Israel.

They're really quite different. But in any case, Israel is the key to God's timeline, and that's one of the three reasons we watch the Middle East. A second reason is because of the prophecies in Ezekiel 38 and 39, where a major invasion of Israel is thwarted by the intervention of God himself.

Ezekiel’s Prophecy and the End-Time Timeline

And this famous passage in Ezekiel 38 and 39, of course, is subject to some controversies. There are three basic views. Some, of course, assume it is post-millennium from some remarks that are made in Revelation 20, verse 8.

But I think most prophecy scholars believe that it is preceding to the millennium, the particular event that we're looking at there. Many, like Helens and others, feel that this is part of the Armageddon sequence, as detailed in Daniel 11.

Armageddon, of course, occurring at the end of this fabled seven-year period called the seventh week of Daniel. There are a number of us, and I lean this way, of course, that Grant Jeffries, Chuck Smith and others, hold that this event in Ezekiel 38 and 39 probably occurs prior to the seventh week of Daniel.

In other words, it could be on a near horizon. There are no particular intervening events that need to precede it. It could be on a horizon. So we watch the Middle East closely for that reason. There is a third reason that is not as widely held as some of the others, but still gets some comment, and that is Isaiah 17, verse 1, which speaks of the burden of Damascus.

Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. Well, Damascus never has been destroyed in those terms, and so many scholars feel that part of the end-time scenario will be the total destruction, the wipe-out of the city of Damascus.

So that's another reason we watch closely as to what might be going on as we see the possibility of a nuclear exchange in that region. Well, the other thing we want to focus on is Jerusalem specifically, because in Zechariah 12 it points out that all the people of the earth will be gathered together against it.

Israel, the United Nations, and the Peace Process

Well, if you study carefully the history here, it's really provocative. In May of 1948, it was the U .N. that declared that Israel would have a nation in the Holy Land. But today, in Israel, the Jewish people believe that they only have one true ally, namely the United States.

What has changed? Why does it seem that the United Nations are against Israel and pro-Islam? The G8 leaders called on the Israeli government to allow foreign observers to monitor the ceasefire agreement.

But Israel has been opposed to allowing the United Nations to act as observers, and said that they might allow the U .S. to send more personnel to oversee the situation. Well, Israel has good reason to be skeptical of the U .N.

History has shown that international observers have never been impartial towards Israel and have never protected a ceasefire agreement, but have rather protected the Palestinian ability to violate it, lest the Israelis have no crashing desire to have the U .N. personnel running around.

In 1949, there was a ceasefire amnesty agreement, the United Nations military observers were deployed along the ceasefire lines between Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. And between 1949 and the Six-Day War of 1967, that's a period of 18 years, there were thousands of attacks into Israel from behind Egyptian, Syrian, and Jordanian lines.

Not one of these attacks produced a single condemnation by the United Nations. They were supposed to be policing the ceasefire lines. However, the U .N. observers complained faithfully whenever Israel responded to these attacks.

More recently, the U .N. observer force in Lebanon, the UNIFIL, was deployed along the militarized area in southern Lebanon, while Israel battled the Hezbollah, which operated out of Lebanon, and the pattern was the same.

The Hezbollah would launch artillery attacks across the border, and UNIFIL would protest against the Israeli response to those attacks. During the Camp David Accords recently, that was during the Clinton administration, Prime Minister Ahud Barak offered more than any other Prime Minister of Israel ever had, but it was not enough to appease Yasser Arafat.

Barak conceded to over 90 of the demands made by the PLO, and yet no common ground could be reached. And as a result, the message was clear. The message was that there would be no peace in the Middle East, and if you study the history of the conflict, you will discover, as Abiy Ibn so eloquently summarized, that the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

The following election in Israel, of course, gave us a clear indication of the mood of the Israeli people. They elected a man that was a war hero and a public enemy number one to the PLO, and so now there is a clear doctrine of peace through strength in Israel, a position that the people of Israel were reluctant to take, but through the breakdown of the Camp David Summit were forced into.

Israel’s Security Dilemma

If you have not been in Israel, it is going to be hard for you to understand what I am about to say, so I shall call on a bit of our own history to try to demonstrate this point. Many of you probably have seen the movie 13 Days, and if you have not, I would highly recommend that you see it.

It is about the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 1960s. It happens that I was with the Assistant Secretary of Defense, John Rubel, at the time, and I can tell you that the movie does an excellent job at capturing the subtleties of that very tense period.

Russia was placing short and mid-range nuclear missiles in Cuba, bringing the entire continental United States under its theater of threat. The United States would be at the mercy of the Russian Confederation.

We were able to maneuver out of the situation through some masterful brinksmanship and the missiles were ultimately removed. But I want you to imagine that the U .S .S .R. had been teaching their children for over 40 years that the U .S. was the great Satan, and that only the complete annihilation of all Americans would bring an end to the violence.

Add to that terrorist suicide bombings of our school buses and malls, along with declared and written documents that state that the U .S .S .R. will only rest when the great Satan of the United States is driven into the sea.

The other factor we would have to deal with is the continual pressures from the international communities to give in to the U .S .S .R. and allow nuclear missiles to remain in Cuba. At this point you might start to have an understanding of what Prime Minister Barack was willing to put on the table.

If accepted, the concession would have left all of the Israeli military and air force bases within range of their sworn enemies. Israel, as it stands today, is less than one-third the size of San Bernardino County in California.

The peace agreement proposed at Camp David would have also put Israel in a position that would have forced them to use their only other deterrent against an invasion, a nuclear response. I should mention that as we speak there are three Israeli submarines, each carrying eight cruise missiles that can be nuclear equipped as their form of deterrent.

Yes, we are looking at a very, very tense situation and it is very possible that the next confrontation will be nuclear. What we have here is a three-pronged attack on Israel. The first one, of course, is the terrorist bombing of women and children.

When we were in Israel a few years ago, a suicide bomber had blown himself up in a mall during the Israeli equivalent of our Halloween, and he was surrounded by hundreds of children, many of these cases the family of the terrorist is compensated to the tune of $100 ,000.

Israel's policy is, of course, to retaliate, hitting a specific terrorist leadership. I want you to always notice the surgical precision of the Israeli retaliation. In this case they hit, just recently, three of the major leaders of the Hamas as they retaliated from a terrorist attack.

As we go to press just now, a suicide bomber at a pizza parlor killed 18 and injured another 100. Another unexploded second bomb was found in the same restaurant which it had failed to go off. Both the Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are fighting over who can take credit for this outrage.

It is interesting to remember that the Israelis target their military adversaries. The terrorists target innocent civilians. There is a basic asymmetry here. Israel's enemies can attack through deniable rogue groups.

In response, Israel has to stand accountable for its defensive measures. Something else to remember when you are traveling. I travel a lot and I am very conscious of this. Every time you go through an airport, you have to go through these special barricades where they search with electronics or what have you.

Remember that when you are searched going through an airport, it isn't an Israeli bomb they are searching for. Israel doesn't deal in terrorism. Their adversaries do. The second form of attack on Israel is this charade we call the peace process.

The first problem with the so-called peace process is that it is based on a false premise. It is based on the idea that reducing the borders of Israel will bring peace to the Middle East. The Arabs have made it abundantly clear from the beginning in their charters, in their laws of accord, that their intractable objective is not the size of Israel.

It is the existence of Israel. They are insisting on what Israel cannot yield. One of the things you must not forget is that Israel has never gone on the offensive in any of the military conflicts in the Middle East.

All of the disputed land that is now under the control of Israel was the result of an unprovoked attack against Israel and that land is essential to the security of the entire nation. Think of it this way.

Suppose you own a ranch in a valley and to the east are foothills that overlook your homestead. On those hills you have a neighbor who is your mortal enemy. He is continually proclaiming his hatred of you and his plans to slaughter your entire family.

He starts by attacking your livestock, killing your cows, chickens, and burning down your barn. He does all of this from his porch high above your house. This goes on for 15 years and one day your adversary comes down from the hill, walks into your living room and kills one of your children.

In response you chase him over the hills and into the adjacent valley. He now proceeds to call town, meaning he is demanding that you get off his land. You say, ìFine, but I want you to take down the signs and stop handing out all the leaflets stating that you are going to kill my family and take over my ranch .î.

He refuses and at the same time he is buying shoulder-held rockets so he can destroy your house from the hilltop he is asking you to give back to him. So you are faced with a decision. Do you give back this property, which by the way belonged to your great-great-grandfather before the ancestors of your neighbor killed him and took it by force?

Or do you wait and see if you can truly obtain peace by giving this land back? So you wait, and while you wait your neighbor kills more of your cows and chickens and also tries to murder more of your family members.

So what do you do? This leads to a third form of attack which Iíll call the media war. Your neighbor has some allies in a local paper, weíll call it the town crier, and convinces them to publish a series of articles designed to paint you as the bad guy and him as the victim.

You know that most of the people in the community know what really happened and do not think that anyone will believe the lies that are being told in the paper. But what you have not counted on is that this media bombardment will continue for years and that the surrounding communities that do not know what really happened will come to the defense of your neighbor.

At this point years have passed, the media war continues, and even some people in your community begin to be booked by the false stories. You are being pressured from all sides and your children are being attacked at school.

At this point you set up a meeting with the city council and your neighbor and offer to give back all the land except 10%, the 10 where your family is buried but the deal is turned down. While you are at the meeting you learn that your neighbor is smuggling illegal weapons into the compound that are capable of destroying your entire ranch from the hilltop.

You report it to the local paper and give them the picture, but obviously no one cares. As the terrorist attacks continue against the citizens of Israel, the not so secret media war wages on. One dramatic example of this war was a photo run by the Associated Press and an accompanying report.

The picture was reportedly of an Israeli soldier beating up a peaceful Palestinian. The problem is that when the picture was run in the U .S., a man in Chicago recognized the victim as his own son who was a medical student in Israel and he was being saved by the Israeli soldier from an attack by some Arabs.

The other problem with the picture is that it reportedly was supposed to be all taking place on a temple mount but there was a gas station in the background. It means that Israel knows there are no gas stations on a temple mount.

How could a mistake like this be made? If it was a scattered incident, it could happen as an accident, but it is symptomatic of a pattern. On the U .N. front, there have even been reports that there are going to be war crime charges contrived against Prime Minister Sharon.

The Legacy of Hate and the Media War

So what we are dealing with here, of course, is a legacy of hate. The Palestinian terrorist group, the Islamic Jihad, is teaching teenage boys that becoming a suicide bomber attacking Israel will send them directly to paradise and that sodomy virgins will be there to greet them.

A BBC news report quotes one of the teachers, Islamic Jihad member Mohammad Al-Hattab, as saying, quote, we are teaching the children that suicide bombing is the only thing that makes the Israeli people very frightened.

Furthermore, we are teaching them that we have the right to do it, close quote. This legacy of hate will not subside until the Palestinians change the textbooks and school materials that continually teach their smallest children to hate the Jews.

It is a legacy that continues generation after generation. Meanwhile, we now are watching serious war clouds once again on the horizon. Saddam Hussein is again moving his six divisions westward. It could very well result in a replay of the brinksmanship of last February 22nd of this year, when we were apparently only ten minutes away from vaporizing Baghdad and Damascus with nuclear weapons.

Of course, the Isaiah 17 passage comes to mind. We talked about Ezekiel 38, and as most of us that watch it closely realize that one of the key players against Israel in that portrayal by Ezekiel is what we call today Turkey.

Well, today Turkey has been pro-Israel. They have signed 16 mutual defense pacts with Israel, because it is in their mutual interest to do so. But the tide is changing. NATO has been expelled from Turkey last week.

Although Israel and Turkey jointly are abused by the European Union, that drives them together, it turns out that this is starting to change. Turkish Prime Minister, Bülent Ecevit, just recently has issued a scathing attack on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's policy of refusing to negotiate under fire, which may signal a chill emerging in the relations with Israel.

Sharon responded that he is willing to begin negotiations, but that a complete halt to violence, terror, and incitement must be a precondition. He said that the future depends on Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat.

Quote, nearly 50 of the terror comes from groups controlled by Arafat, Sharon said. Arafat must choose whether he wants to be a head of state or a head of a gang of murderers. Sharon said that if 145 Israeli deaths from terror attacks were calculated in proportion to the population of Turkey, the figure would be more like 1 ,500 deaths.

No democracy would tolerate such a thing, not Israel, not the United States, and certainly not Turkey, Sharon said. As the violence against Israel continues, another emerging specter has been added to the anti-Semitic attacks.

It is cloaked in diplomacy and is rearing its militant head in countries around the world. The invasion of Islam into the Western cultures, including our own. Over the past 25 years, Muslims have found their way into positions of power throughout Europe by their sheer numbers.

As a result, the Israeli delegate has found himself in an adversarial position in the U .N., and has even thought that they will contrive charges brought against Prime Minister Sharon. Even here in the U .S., the question is how long the United States will stand alone in the face of the U .N. charges.

If you want more background on modern-day Israel, we encourage you to review our briefing package called The Betrayal of the Chosen. It is taken from a number of the major definitive texts in this area, and you will find it extremely provocative and relevant to really understanding today's news.

Introducing Adi Lipkin

One way for us to gain a background from an Israeli perspective is from a speaker that we have invited to join us in this discussion. Adi Lipkin. Adi studied for an M .A. in Israel's Conservative Jewish Seminary.

He has been a spokesman for the Israeli Defense Force, formerly associated with the Institute for Western Defense in Jerusalem. He is the former senior editor and translator for the Israeli Government Press Office under Prime Minister Shamir.

He grew up in the U .S., but has spent over 18 years in Israel. His first book is titled Is Fanatic Islam a Global Threat? In this book, Adi presents his belief that Christians and Jews must forge an alliance to stop Islam's secret goal to destroy Judaism and Christianity and dominate the world.

Many Christians, by the way, especially in the U .S., have no perception of the real agenda of Islam. They know it is anti-Israel for a variety of reasons, but they don't realize that Christianity is part of the target also, very explicitly.

Adi's second book, released in late 1999, is called Christian Revival for Israel's Survival. For the last several years, Adi has traveled extensively throughout the United States, speaking to groups of every size and denomination.

Of all the contacts that we've had the privilege of sharing platforms with, Adi is well-informed, a close friend, and I hope you find him enlightening and provocative. Thank you very much.

I'm extremely, extremely pleased and extremely honored to be here today. The last time I was here was three years ago. I don't know how many of you remember. My son Jacob was with me. By the way, Jacob was getting married on August 20th in Jerusalem.

I was in Pocatello with Pastor Lou Phelps at Calvary Chapel. I don't know how many of you know the Calvary Chapel there. Jacob was with me there. We watched one of these international soccer games in Butte, Montana, on the way here.

Jacob remembers those three places very well, and he remembers all of you. Actually, today marks my turning around and driving back to New York because I've been on the road two and a half months, starting in New York, Chicago, Beloit, Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Texas, Arizona, California, Oregon, Bend, Oregon, Twin Falls, Pocatello, and last night, Boise, and here I am tonight.

Tomorrow, I'm in the church somewhere in Montana. I don't know yet where. I'll get the information. God willing, in a few weeks, I'll be going back to the Middle East with a stop in Greece. I don't know where to start because it's very hard to cram nine hours into an hour and a half.

We want to do a half hour of understanding of questions and answers. Of course, I can stay later for a visit with all of you if you want. What I wanted to do was to focus this evening on two subjects.

War in the Middle East and on American Soil

One subject is the war, unfortunately, that I feel is inevitable in the Middle East, and the second subject is the war that I feel is inevitable on American soil. How many people here have seen the movie Jihad in America, PBS video by Stephen Emerson?

One hand, two hands, three, four, five. Okay, this is a video. I have to apologize. I ran out of them in Pocatello on Sunday. It's a PBS video which was made and then buried by PBS. Stephen Emerson is an anti-terrorism reporter.

He made this video together with the help of the FBI, the State Department, the CIA, the good guys in those organizations, and there are good guys in those organizations too. And because there were so many protests from the Islamic side, PBS buried the video, and PBS today will not even sell it over its 800 number.

You have to buy it directly from Washington, D .C., from Stephen Emerson. So for those who are interested, afterwards I will be glad to give you the telephone number, the 202 number. The video is a must because it is truer and scarier today than when it first came out eight years ago.

It's a very prophetic video, and the video says when there will be a war in the Middle East, yes, there will be a war front scenario on American soil as well. By the way, I wanted to recommend to all of you also, of course after you get my two books, there's a third book I recommend very highly.

It is not a Jewish book. It is not a Christian book. It is a Harvard University textbook written by Professor Samuel Huntington. The book is called The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order.

It's available in any good bookstore. It's a must read. It's an academic book. It's not easy reading, but it's a must read because what Professor Huntington is saying is that forget about war in the Middle East right at this very moment.

Within 50 years, the way things are going, America will be eclipsed. America will lose its preeminence. Judeo-Christian Western civilization will sink into oblivion, and you will have three pagan systems rivaling Judeo-Christian West.

You have Mandarin China, you have Hindu India, and you have Islam. These are three pagan Eastern systems. They have the population, they have the money, they have the numbers, they have the power, they have the modernization.

These are civilizations that are modernizing, but they will not westernize because westernize means Judeo-Christian. This is a civilization war. This is not a war between countries. It's very important for all Christians.

I want to say Christians and Jews, but Jews really don't count in this sense because the Jews are very small numbers. This is a struggle for the direction of the planet Earth in the next 50 years, if we're also around.

So it's very important for you to get that book as well. I focus in my message on Islam because the Chinese and the Hindus don't necessarily say, kill the Jew on Saturday, kill the Christian on Sunday.

The Muslims do. The Muslim motto is kill the Jews on Saturday because they're the people of the Saturday, kill the Christians on Sunday because they are the people of the Sunday. And I dare any Muslim to debate with me and say that this is not true.

This is the bottom line of Islam. How do I know? My wife is a woman who was born in Egypt, she was raised in Egypt, just as I was born in America, raised in America. We both met in Jerusalem, we're both Jewish, but it's like an American marrying an Arab.

And my wife for 30 years is pointing her finger at me and saying, you Americans just cannot understand what the Islamic mindset is all about. For 30 years she's saying it, and after 30 years it begins to sink in.

I say it in a slightly different way. It takes a thief to know a thief. And you guys are incapable of understanding thieves because you're not thieves. But I am a thief because I come from the Middle East after 33 years.

I come back to America to warn you about the things that I have seen in 33 years and which you Americans are only now beginning to see in different ways. By the way, my wife Rachel also works for her living, working for the Israeli radio.

She, of course, since Arabic is her mother tongue, she listens to the Arabic language radio broadcasts of our neighbors, including the Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Saudis, the Palestinian radio stations, the Syrians.

And let me tell you something, you really, really need to pray for my wife Rachel because she comes home sick every night listening to seven and a half hours of the venom, the vitriolic venom of Islam, where they say kill the Jew, kill the Christian, kill the Israeli, kill the American, in the same breath.

The Bible, the Quran, and the Roots of Conflict

And what I want to do tonight, this is almost like Mission Impossible, when I teach my nine-hour seminars as I travel across the country, I do three hours on the Bible versus the Koran, Judeo-Christianity versus Islam.

Three hours. If you don't understand the Bible, if you don't understand the Koran, if you don't understand the roots, the religious roots of the conflict, then you don't understand what is happening in the Middle East and you cannot understand what is about to happen on American soil.

The second session of three hours deals with terrorism, and unfortunately Americans are lulled to sleep by the media. The American people are desensitized because the agenda in Washington has decided that a little information, a little knowledge can be dangerous.

So you're not supposed to get any information. And frankly, I myself, I'm past getting upset, but the news that you hear, the opening news for the last few weeks has been Chandra Levy, the intern and the politician condit, and I don't know who's guilty, I don't know who's not guilty, I don't know what happened to her, I hope she's okay, she probably isn't, but the point I'm saying is this is not news.

This is a placebo. And I'm going to get back to that in a moment. The third session that I do is on Israel and the inevitable war that's coming in the Middle East. So it's nine hours of teaching and nine hours of reading in my two books, and there's a lot of military information there from Israel, a lot of current events and private investigation that I have done here on American soil as well, involving Islamic infiltration into the country.

What I will do indeed, I will just give you a few words of the methodology of how I developed this work that I'm doing now. And suffice it to say, I started in 1990 speaking in America on the eve of Desert Storm, and since I am, I was, I don't know, an Israeli Army spokesman, I was retired July 4th, a year ago, then they recalled me September 28th when I went crazy.

So I don't know if I'm in the Israeli reserves still or not, but if God forbid there's a war, we all beg to be allowed to serve. I came here, I made predictions about Saddam Hussein, which all came true, not because I'm a prophet, because I'm not a prophet, but because I just had the information from the Israeli Army, which trained me.

I went back to Israel for the Desert Storm. We were hit by 39 Scuds, it was a miraculous time for us. Only one person died in Israel from 39 direct Scud hits. This is a miracle from God. And nobody should have died, but the wife begged her husband to go into the air raid shelter, and his answer was, it'll never happen to me.

So we need to listen to our wives. By the way, I have to tell you something. I was once court-martialed by the Israeli Army for saying very bad things about Hosni Mubarak, which are in my book, by the way.

And when I came home, my wife said, so why did you say those things? And I said to her, well, because you said them, and you're Egyptian, and I listen to you, and you know what you're talking about. So my wife looks at me and says, so why do you listen to me?

If I don't listen to her, you know, I'm damned. I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't. And then from 1991 to 1994, I went to the Jewish Theological Seminary to try to become a rabbi. I did not succeed.

I am not a rabbi, unless you consider me a rabbi to 20, 30 million Christians as I travel around the United States. And then in 1994, this is where I want to really start my message. I come to the United States, and I'm really flabbergasted because in Jerusalem, we had just gotten cable TV, and Israel is a very special place.

Here you have 60 or 100 or 200 stations today, and you do find interesting things. When it was 30, 40, 50 stations, it was really all the same stations. In Israel, it's different. In Israel, if you're a polyglot, if you speak many languages, you're in heaven in Jerusalem.

We have four or five Arabic language stations in different countries. We have three Turkish stations, three Russian stations, three German stations, three French stations, two Italian stations. We have Spain.

We have BBC, Sky TV. And, of course, we have CNN International, and we have ABC News. And when I was watching CNN and ABC News, there was this woman's face on the TV all the time. I put on Russian TV, you wouldn't see it, or German TV or English TV, only on the American TV station.

And this was, like, for weeks, this woman's face. She was in court. It was like life proceedings of a court trial. And I was trying to figure out what's so earth-shattering about this woman. And what was so earth-shattering was that this was Loretta Bobbitt.

And this was two months. I got to the States. Then there was another woman's face on the TV screen. There was no other news. It was just that woman's face. And that was Tanya Harding. Then in July of 94, you had O .J. Simpson.

And that went on for two years. Then you had Monica Lewinsky. Then you had Elian Gonzalez. And now you have Shandra Levy. If you get my gist, this is a placebo. This is non-news. What you're getting from the media is entertainment, very sick entertainment.

And what you're not being told is that America, Israel, the world, is on the verge, I say, of a world war. We are very close. And Chuck Missler has been talking about this type of thing also many, many times.

I come, of course, from a Jewish and from an Israeli perspective. Nobody's talking about the fact that 2 million black brothers and sisters have been slaughtered in the Sudan, that 6 to 8 million are in the process of being slaughtered in the Sudan.

And Omar Bashir, who is the general who runs Sudan, he's not a war criminal. Slobodan Milosevic kills 2 ,000 Muslim terrorists, and he's in The Hague as a war criminal. By the way, Ariel Sharon is next, in case you didn't know.

And I'm going to talk about that a little later, because the cards are stacked against us. They kill 300 ,000 Catholics on the island of East Timor in Indonesia. The Muslims do. Nobody says anything. Christians are being slaughtered, enslaved, persecuted, more today than any other time in the last 2 ,000 years.

By the way, when I was in Greece, working to complete my third book on the parallels ethics, my Greek friends, born-again Christians, said to me, you know how many Greeks died in the 1920s? This is after World War I.

There was a war with Turkey. Venizelos was the commander of the Greek army. A million Greeks, civilians, were slaughtered, very much in the same way as 1 ,500 ,000 Armenians were slaughtered by the Turks.

And when Hitler killed the 6 million Jews in World War II, he said, well, nobody said anything about the Turks killing the Armenians. So the point is this. Muslims can get away with killing millions and millions of Christians.

We look at this in history. By the way, I was in Phoenix, Arizona. This is really funny. I spoke in the church, and the pastor had to run. And where are you staying tonight? I said, I just drove in from Texas.

I don't know where I'm sleeping tonight. And there were two little nuns. They were Lutheran evangelical nuns. The Evangelical Sisterhood of Mary. They're based in Darmstadt, Germany. And they went to church to hear me.

And they said, would you like to come and stay with us? And I spent two weeks in a Lutheran evangelical nunnery with 13 nuns. I fell in love with all of them. I called my wife. I said, I'm going to marry these 13 nuns.

And my wife says, go for it. Why was I telling you about the German nuns? Anyway, so I was in Phoenix. And so the news media in this country are not telling you anything. They are filling up 60 Minutes.

It's a program called 60 Minutes. They're filling it up 60 Minutes of non-news. Yes, now I remember. When I was in Phoenix, there was a Christian woman, an Arab Christian woman. She is from the Assyrian Orthodox Church.

And I knew that there was such a thing as Assyrian Christians. The Assyrian Christians, they're the oldest church in Christianity. They're the church of Antioch. And she lived in a place called Zakho.