Commitment — Peter Orasuk

Scripture Readings on Commitment and Christian Service

I'll turn with me, please, to, first of all, John chapter 21. It's probably my favorite place to minister from, John's Gospel chapter 21. I think I've been helped from that passage of Scripture more than anything else in the Bible apart from Isaiah chapter 53.

Tomorrow night, I don't normally do this, but in the Gospel I never do it, but I'm going to mention tomorrow night I'm going to look at the truth of headship, lordship, and fellowship. From 1 Corinthians chapter 11.

So that's going to be the subject matter for tomorrow evening. Now, the night after that I plan on looking at the truth of prayer and the reality and the need for it in relationship to a New Testament church.

I want to look at it very practically, very practically. Then I want to look at the following night, the truth of unity. Now, I do hold the right to change these things around if I want to. They're not written in stone, but if I'm going to follow the course that I had, I'm going to look at unity because these are all relevant to the assembly.

So I want to look at unity. And the last night, I'm not sure of yet. I'm really not. So we'll just see how things go and leave it till then. John chapter 21. After these things, Jesus showed himself again.

And that's a very important expression to the disciples at the Sea of Tiberias. And on this wise showed he himself. There were together Simon, Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana of Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, that would be James and John, and two other of his disciples.

Now, I make that seven. If you've come away with more than seven or less, let me know at the end of the meeting. Seven in the boat. Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, we also go with thee.

They went forth, entered into a ship immediately, a lot like Jonah's experience. There's always a ship there when you want to take it and go out of the mind of God. And that night, they caught nothing.

Ananias and Sapphira: Lying to the Holy Ghost

Now, go back with me to the... No, we'll look at the book of Acts while we're in this part of the Bible. Acts chapter 5. Verse 1. But a certain man named Ananias with Sapphira, his wife, sold a possession and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy or eating him in it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles' feet.

But Peter said, Ananias, why has Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost and to keep back part of the price of the land? While it remained, was it not thine own? In other words, if you didn't want to give any of it or all of it, that was up to you.

But saying that you were giving all and holding back was lying to the Holy Ghost. So it wasn't the thought that he wasn't giving everything and that was what God was dealing with him for, but he was taking the place of one that had given all when he had held back.

And that found the displeasure of God. Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? Thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. And Ananias, hearing these things, or these words, fell down, gave up the ghost, and great fear came on them that heard these things.

And of course, what follows is the experience of his wife, who also aids him in this and suffers the same end. And great fear came upon all them that heard these things. Now, turn with me please to the book of Romans, chapter 14, just for a verse.

How Our Lives Affect the Assembly

And the verse we're going to use out of context, but I want to use it as a springboard. For none of us, and you know the term none is not in the Scriptures, it would be the word, not one of us. For not one of us liveth to himself, and no man or no person dieth to himself.

No man liveth to himself, no man dieth to himself. And a final reading please in the book of Joshua, and the last chapter of Joshua, which of course is chapter 24. Verse 14, and therefore is there in relationship to all that he has just finished telling them about why they should be a people not only dependent upon God, but praising, worshiping and serving God as to all that God has done for them.

Now, therefore, fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and in truth, and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the river or the flood, and in Egypt, and serve ye the Lord.

And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood or the gods of the Amorites in whose land ye dwell.

But as for me and my house, now he could say this under law. He could say this under law, because you remember disobedient son was stoned. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. And the people answered and said, God forbid that we should forsake the Lord to serve other gods.

For the Lord our God, he it is that brought us up and our fathers out of the land of Egypt. Verse 19, and Joshua said unto the people, you cannot serve the Lord, for he is a holy God. He is a jealous God.

He will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins. I think that's all we'll read in that portion. I think that'll be it for this evening as far as what reading from these passages. We trust that God will bless what we've read and thoughts taken there from.

We're living in a world where oftentimes people say this. What I do is up to me. What happens to me is my business. That is the thinking of our world today. I don't pretend to be an individual that has any capabilities in sociology or psychology.

But it's very easy to see that is the attitude of the world. I do my thing, and what happens to me happens to me. And it doesn't matter to anybody else. It's nobody else's business. When it comes to a New Testament church, I simply just want to use this spring road expression.

It says this. None of us live unto himself. And no man dieth unto himself. We affect others. We affect others. I have looked at three passages. And I want to primarily focus most of my points or my thoughts on the assembly itself.

But I've looked at three different passages, and you could break them down into this. With Joshua, you'll see a man that really is the truth of his desire and his determination. And it affected others.

As a matter of fact, we're going to read a little bit more just before I do go into that passage. Then, when it comes to Peter, we're going to find that he's a man with his discouragement and his departure.

And it affects others. We also go with it. When it comes to Ananias and Sapphira, it's the thought of discipline. And we're going to find that, if I have time to get to that passage, that what happened to them not only was beneficial for the maintenance of the glory of God in the company of God's people, but was a preserving factor for others.

Others feared. And that's a reverential fear. Let me start with Peter. Let me go, first of all, to a man. I've heard individuals preach on this, and they tell me that Peter wasn't a discouraged man in this passage.

I've heard people spend half an hour on digging up facts that tell us Peter wasn't discouraged. And I think I've only ever come to one conclusion, that they're wrong. That you have a discouraged man. There's no doubt about it.

And that man is discouraged to the point where he just is going to throw in the towel when it comes to what God has purposed for his life. And he is going to go back to what he was. He's going to go back to something that gave him a little bit of success.

Something he did have some capability in. He almost has written himself off to the point he thinks like this, I'm not doing too well at these things of God. I'm an absolute failure when it comes to spiritual things and spiritual purpose.

But I could catch a few fish, so I'm going back fishing. I go fishing. You know, I heard a person tell me one time that Peter was a man that the last sight that they had of the Lord Jesus was the Lord Jesus hanging on the cross.

And that when he saw the Lord Jesus in that circumstance, he thought to himself, all my hopes, all my aspirations, everything I thought would come to pass is finished. The kingdom isn't coming. The king is dead.

And now the royal subjects just have to flee for their lives. The whole thing's folded. And that's why Peter was discouraged. But he's not. That's not why. Because it tells us this is the third time he showed himself to the disciples.

Now, hold on a minute. These men knew this. They knew that Christ was risen. They knew that he had died for their sins. They knew that all the promises and all the blessings that he had preached to them relevant to a kingdom and the glories that they would be brought into would come to pass.

The witness of the resurrection itself giving the grounding of all of that. They knew that. They knew their home in heaven was secure. They knew that they were going to be used of God. There was purpose in their lives.

They knew all of that. Someone says, how could they know that and be discouraged? Well, we know that. We know he's risen. We know our sins are forgiven. We know we have a home in heaven. We know that all the promises of God in this book relevant to us are yea and amen.

And yet we get discouraged. Can I suggest to you tonight that the greatest source of discouragement is not necessarily the thought of looking at what has transpired. He's not discouraged with the person of Christ.

He's not discouraged with the people of God, though sometimes there might be ample reason to be somewhat discouraged. You know the greatest source of his discouragement? Himself. Himself. The biggest letdown in my experience has been me.

The biggest hurdle for me to get by in my life for God has been me. Peter's a man that looks and he thinks like this. I've failed miserably. I've denied the Lord three times publicly. I've sold out. I've lost ground.

And what more does he need with the likes of me in his glorious work, for his glorious kingdom, by his glorious power? What does he need me for? I'm an absolute failure. Do you ever feel that way? I'm going fishing.

Discouragement and Its Influence on Other Believers

I'm going fishing. Whenever I say that, I know I've said this here before, I can almost hear it echoing off the walls, but I remember when I was just a little guy. Was I seven, eight years old? I was a little guy.

And I remember Mr. Brown. I remember that store like I can still see it. And all the kids, all the little boys, sorry, little boys used to go down, especially the boys. And we'd buy the old cards, the football cards and the hockey cards.

You know, you'd throw them against the wall and whoever gets the nearest wins the card. I'm not sure how it goes anymore, but something like that. And they got those flat pieces of gum that taste absolutely terrible.

They should make tires out of them. And we used to stand in that store and we would all stand around in the aisles, picking out the cards, buying the candy, talking, arguing, trading. And Mr. Brown never once, what I would call, lost it.

He never once turned around and started pulling out hair, saying, would you boys get out of my store? I can't stand it anymore. It must have been a tremendous pressure with people that were his livelihood having to weave in and out of the crowd of boys so they could spend their money on groceries that was the money he needed to keep his business going.

He sure wasn't making much an hour, two or three cents, for a pack of cards. But you know something, that man only had so much. He only could take so much. And it wasn't even at the same time every year.

Sometimes it was a time, I don't even think the season was open, but every once in a while you'd go down to Brown's store and I could still see that sign hanging there. He'd made it himself. It was a white sign with bold red letters.

You know what it said? GONE FISHING. GONE FISHING. No explanation. No advertisement. Just a little corner store that everybody depended on was closed for the day. Nobody was forewarned. Mr. Brown had gone fishing and he'd closed shop.

Whenever I think of this passage, I think of a man that's basically come to the point where he says, I can't take it anymore. I've failed miserably. I'm not what I should be. I'm not even what I could be.

And everything I put my hand to and all the boasts I've made and all my aspirations to be something for God have come to a crumbling heap. I'm gone fishing. Gone fishing. Maybe we don't have the signs hanging from our doors or hanging around our necks, but there's so many of us today and really we're living under that experience.

We're not putting anything into it for God anymore. You know why? We've gone fishing. Closed shop. Had enough. Can't take anymore. Gone fishing. And someone says, that's where it ends? No, it doesn't end there.

It doesn't end there. That were tragic if it ended there. But more tragic is this. Listen to the voice of six other men. We also go with Thee. Oh, well, you can see Thomas going. You know him. He doubts everything.

He was an unstable character anyway. People like that, they tend to fall by the way, don't they? Well, that's the way we think. And then you know Nathaniel. He was kind of hard. He was incredulous anyway.

Can any good thing come out of Nazareth? He just had a very negative attitude to the whole thing anyway. And two others, they don't even mention them. Sons of Zebedee, James, and that disciple that Jesus loved that rested his head on the bosom of the Lord Jesus and could go back to times when he had intimate fellowship with Christ.

Good days. Actually, he rested his head. He heard the heartbeat of Christ. And John says, I'm going too. Can I tell you something? When it comes to discouragement, brethren, nobody's immune to it. We're all so susceptible.

And often times when one goes down, they take others with them. Because discouragement, if it isn't checked, if it isn't stopped, always, inevitably, leads to departure. I remember I had my gospel meetings one time and a sister at those meetings.

I'll even get through one point if I don't hurry. A sister at those meetings after I actually went home to my own meeting, I was there for seven weeks at this place preaching the gospel. They were the great days.

I was telling somebody, they were great days. I had all this zeal and no wisdom. And now I got all this wisdom and no zeal. You know, I'd rather the other way. They were great days. You made your mistakes.

But they were real. They were genuine mistakes. And now we're so careful of making a mess, we don't fire a cannon so we couldn't make a hit either. But anyway, I went to those meetings and I was all pumped up.

I thought God's going to save. The way they were talking about souls coming out to the gospel means I thought we're going to see a revival. And at the end of seven weeks, nothing. Mind you, the eighth week, things did change.

But I went home for this Lord's Day in my own assembly. I was in Cape Breton where I was having the meetings and I'd gone home about maybe five or six hours' drive. As I sat in the meeting that morning, I was just going to be there for the break of their bread and jump in the car and drive back again.

I just sat there. You know something, brethren? I couldn't sing the hymns. I was so low. I just couldn't even sing the hymns. You ever get that low? Sometimes we move our mouths to them, but you just can't sing.

It's like you're passing through real rough circumstances and how can you sing the Lord's song in a strange land? And your harp's hung in the willow somewhere. I couldn't take part in worship. I just couldn't.

And then when the Bible reading came, they knew something was wrong because I couldn't even make a statement. I couldn't ask a question. I couldn't even argue. And I'm one of these people that when I'm not doing well, I'm not happy.

It shows. Some people can conceal it well. Good for you. I still remember a sister taking me aside after those meetings. Pulled me over to herself. You know what she said to me? She said, Peter, we got enough around here already to make us miserable.

We don't need you coming home looking like that. And if you're going to come home from gospel meetings looking like that, maybe you shouldn't go away for gospel meetings. Because we've got enough to get us down around here already.

We don't need more. You think it doesn't affect somebody when you come to meeting and you can see how down and low you are or disinterested or distracted? You know, sometimes it's like it is a body with one heart and you can feel it.

I was impressed. You talk about people that inspire you. The most inspiring experience I had over in Northern Ireland as far as an individual that I saw there. It was a woman that came to gospel meetings.

I couldn't pronounce her name and I can't remember her either, so there you go. But she came to those meetings. She was an older widow lady. And she sat near the front and she tried to bring people. And she did oftentimes.

And she would smile. She wasn't coming out and audibly saying amen, but the head was going. She wasn't nodding the way some people nod with their eyes closed. She was nodding in agreement. By the way, if I see you sleeping in these meetings, I'm going to wake you.

And she just was going along the whole thing. And then, you know, at the end of the meeting, she'd just be radiant. You know one of those people that you just get refreshed when you talk to them. You know what it's like.

And I said to another brother after, I said, you know, she's an inspiration. What a happy person. I said, she must have, life must be pretty good to her. In just a few moments, you know what he told me?

She lost her husband last year. Two years before, she lost one of her sons. And a year before that, she lost her other son. And they diagnosed her with cancer. And yet there was that soul with all of that to get her down.

By the help of God raised above it. And she was encouraging me. She was an inspiration because we affect others. And here are these individuals and Peter's discouraged and he's going to go and they say, we'll go with you.

And I say something, when you begin to lose ground in the things of God and you begin to depart, you will take others. You will. It's impossible not to. We affect one another. These companies of God's people, assemblies, can't be as close as we are without having an impact on one another.

And yet individuals get to the point where they just say, I just can't go on. I can't take it anymore. And I'm going to stop. My prayers aren't getting answered. My children are not saved. I'm going to stop praying.

They're discouraged. Prayer departs. I go to meeting and I don't seem to be getting anywhere. I'm going to stop going. You see what I'm saying? Discouragement always leads to departure. It always vents itself in departure from something.

Persevering in Prayer, Preaching, and Assembly Life

I remember when I was just a little boy when my dad used to take me fishing. He didn't take me often. I told you why the other day. But he didn't like to take me because I wasn't what you'd call a good fisherman when I was small.

I was kind of an annoying little fisherman. I was very impatient too. Matter of fact, I didn't really like fishing that much come to think of it. And I remember going with my father. My dad was really a keen fisherman.

He was avid. He used to go to this place called Eakam Seakam. I can still remember it. Sneak up on the place. He actually snuck up to the water so a shadow wouldn't get on the water so the trout wouldn't see it.

And while he'd be sneaking up, I'd walk up there and throw something in. I'd say, look at this, Dad. It definitely wasn't popular. But I can still remember it. We were fishing and my dad had cast his line in.

And I'd say within about half an hour he had three nice trout. Now they look real big to me but they were probably 10, 11 inches. And I don't think that would be exaggerated. I think that would be very fair, even gracious.

And as I was fishing, my line was going out and it was coming in. Like I would cast out, lose my bait, pull it in, bait up, cast out, but this time my dad would get a bite so I'd have to cast exactly where he was.

And I'd cast over there, lose my bait, pull it back in. So say in the run of an hour I probably had my line in the water about 10 minutes. And after about an hour I remember saying something to my dad.

I said, Dad, that's it. I just broke the rod. Not snapped it, just took it apart, they call it. That's a fishing term for those who are really into it. You break the rod. I broke the rod, put it to the side and I said, that's it.

I'm done. I'm not fishing anymore. That's the way little boys act when they're a little bent out of shape. You'd be surprised how it translates into adults. That's it. I'm not going anymore. My dad does not say, but I must admit I was always impressed by his wisdom.

He turned around and he looked at me. He didn't get excited. He only ever spoke to me very quietly. And if that didn't do it then he didn't speak anymore. He did something else. But my dad turned around and he said, well, son, you can look at it two different ways.

He said, you can, you know, cast your line out there, leave it out there, son. The bait's good, we know, because it's catching fish for me. The fish are there. Look, here's three of them here. We've still got, you know, lots of bait.

And he said, if you wait, the fish will likely circle again and come back around and in a short time your waiting, your patience will pay off. And you'll get something. He said, or you can pull your line out of the water, pack up your little fishing rod and make good and sure that you get nothing.

But we're staying anyway. We're staying anyway. We're here anyway. We're here anyway. And we can get to the point where we just say, look, that's it. I go fishing. I'm just not putting anything more into it.

I'm not praying anymore. What's the use? I'm not going to preach anymore. Nobody's getting saved. I'm not coming to the meetings anymore. I'm not really enjoying it as much as I used to. I go fishing.

But you know what comes right down to it? If we keep up the praying, God eventually will bless. He's promised to. If individuals keep up the preaching of the gospel, that week I went back, seventh week as low as you could get, eighth week and one week, nine people saved.

What one would have done, one soul is worth preaching a lifetime for. One soul. And I'll tell you something else. When things get low and things get difficult, you stay with the assembly. You come regardless.

And it will pay off. It will pay off. Or you can pack it in and make good and sure that you get nothing. But we're staying anyway. One man. One man turns around and he says, I go fishing. I give up. I've had enough.

I'm just not putting... I'm just folding up. And six other men go with him. Do you see why it's so important that if you're discouraged in this meeting tonight, if you're sitting here and you're discouraged, it is so important to get before God and get it resolved.

Get it resolved. Because if it's not resolved, it will lead to departure. You know it will. And others will go with you. Because none of us live to himself. When it comes to the man called Joshua, I love Joshua.

I just learned how to pronounce his name the last two years, but I just love him. I remember one time hearing Mr. Albert Ramsey preach about Joshua. And they were in a Bible reading. I can still remember sitting there and someone says, Brother Ramsey, what are your thoughts on Joshua?

He said he was a desperate nice fellow. A desperate nice fellow. Joshua was a man that had a good example. You know most of the believers, I think all the believers here in this meeting this evening, have had good examples.

I know there have been bad examples, but there have been good examples. There have been people that you could literally fashion and take your direction from. There are individuals that left their mark not only on the testimonies we form a part of, but on the lives of the believers.

Joshua's Determination to Serve the Lord

Examples. Joshua was a man that was living in a difficult day. You know what kind of day it was? This is the kind of day. It was a day when God's people didn't want to give up God. If I went around here this evening, I'm not going to do it, and I said to you, do you want to give up on God as far as worshipping God and serving God?

Do you want to give up on God? Do you just want to kind of put Him to one side and ignore Him? Do you want to do that? I don't think one person would honestly say yes. But what they wanted was this. They said, as a matter of fact, he turns around and he says, me and my husband, we're going to serve the Lord.

And you know what he tells them? He tells them all that God has done for them. And then he says, they turn around and they say this, no, but we will also serve the Lord. Do you know what that meant? They weren't saying, we'll serve the Lord like you serve the Lord, Joshua.

That's not how they were using the word also.

They were using it like this. We will serve.

And go after the things of the Gentiles and serve the Lord. Because he responds by saying, no, you can't do it. God is a jealous God. God won't accept that.

The world might allow it.

The world might turn around and say, okay, if they want to bring a little Christianity into their experience, fine, we'll let them away with it. But when it comes to God and we say, I'd like to bring a little bit of the world into the things of God, God won't let us away with it.

He's a jealous God. And Joshua lived in the day when the people didn't want to forsake God and turn their back on God. But they wanted two things. They wanted God and to serve God and to be linked with God and to enjoy the things of the world that the nations around them were enjoying.

It was a compromise day. You know something, brother? We are living in exactly the same kind of times. Not that God's people today turn around and say this. I don't want to serve the Lord and I don't want anything to do with the things of God.

But what they say is this. I would like to be a good Christian and enjoy the things that the world enjoys, that the nations, the people that were judged by God on the other side of the river. We want what they've got, what they enjoy, and serve the Lord.

And Joshua says, No! You can't do it. God won't allow it. You can't do it. I was at a conference once. Yeah, I will tell. And I actually just spoke on Joshua on the expression also. I spoke in four also's in the Scriptures.

That was one of them. When I was speaking at that conference, I made this statement. I didn't know that in that congregation of young folks... I wasn't preaching for young folks. I think that ministry that's good for young folks is good for old folks too.

And vice versa. I don't find divided ministry in the Word of God. It's the flock feeds together. But as I was preaching, I did make the statement that... I just made it off the cuff. I said, you are not going to be the star quarterback for the local football team.

I'm a man of God that is a great help in the things of God in the local assembly. I did not know that there was a young man there. Let me tell you this. A very well-mannered young man. He was about 6 '4".

After I spoke, he came over to me with his father. And his father did some explanations. He said, you made the statement that a person couldn't serve two masters. And he said, that's true. And that really a person couldn't be given to the commitment of a career in sports and be committed to a local testimony.

He didn't say that's true, but that's true. That's what I said. That's true. He said, but I want you to understand this. He said, my boy plays football. He's very good at it. He's a Christian. He talks to the unsaved members in the team.

They even have a little Bible reading for those that are Christians in the team from different religious organizations. And his coach thinks that much of him that he lets him off once every three Sundays.

And he's used one of those Sundays to come here today to the conference. And I don't really think it's right. You should discourage him now by what you said. So he said, now that you know the facts, he said, I just wanted you to know that what you say is 99 true.

He said, but there are exceptions. Well, I must admit, I said to him, did you just want to tell me this or are you looking for a reply? He said, now I've told you this, now what do you say? I said, sir, I say the same thing here standing down here that I said on that platform half an hour ago.

It won't work. It won't work. With that, not brashly, not rudely, mannerly, that young man turned around and he said, excuse me, let me just speak for myself, sir. He said, I will prove you wrong. That you can be a success in the sport world and you can be a man of God and prove to be a help to the things of God in the New Testament church.

He just said, well, in the gospel hall. My statement to him was this. I said, if you prove me wrong, I'll come back to this platform again. And I'll stand up on it and I will make a personal apology and acknowledge I was wrong.

But I don't believe I'll be doing it. He said, you will. The rest of the story, that young man is no longer in the assembly. I know his health, something took place to him. He's not even playing football now.

But in the end, he just grew more and more distant and it didn't work. We might try it. We might try to coast along with commitments to other things being part of something else. And I'm not just pinpointing sports, brethren.

There's many things we get involved in. There's many things we're committed to. I know there are things that are commendable. For example, earning a living. But when it comes to the truth of a New Testament church, the assembly, it is a commitment for your life.

Joshua turned around and he made this statement. You know when things go wrong, what we say? We say it all the time. I'm saying it right now. What we say. Do you ever hear talk like this? You know, there's people that aren't getting along too well.

We should go out and visit them. Or we're not getting many people into our gospel meeting. We should try to visit around and encourage them some more. Do you ever notice we do that? I'm doing it again.

It's always a we. And the departure is always a we. It's always, you know, we're not what we used to be. We're drifting. We're getting away. We've got to get back to basics. But you know something? You can go on like that forever and it won't change anything.

Here's the difference. One man. He turns around and he simply says this. Ask for me. Ask for me. Ask for me and my house. We'll serve the Lord. In other words, whatever they do, and it broke his heart.

He loved those people. He brought those people to victory. He traveled with them. He had the same compassion for them that Moses did. And yet he came to a point where he realized I can't make this decision for them.

There are decisions here tonight I could make for you. With a carefree, I could make that. But it's no good. It has to be your decision. And finally, Joshua realizes the only person I can really be committed, really commit, he says, ask for me.

You know something? All revival starts with those words. All reformation starts with those words. All restoration starts with those words. All recovery starts with those words. Not what we need. Not we ought to.

But ask for me. One person. One person. That realizes this, no matter how things go, by the grace and help of God, I'm going to try and hold divine things and move in divine pathways. Ask for me. I remember one time I was in the Gospel Hall in Charlottetown.

They had the Children's Means downstairs before they had the carpet. And I went down there. And I used to help in the Children's Means back then. I love Children's Means. I was rich through Children's Means.

And I went down, and we went down, and I looked around. I was going to go and just get something and borrow some tools from the hall for working on my furnace. That's a good place to get them. They got everything.

And I went there, and I went into the furnace room. As I was coming up, going to go back up the stairs, I kind of... I said, boy, this place is terrible. Look at the floor. It's got paper on it. It looks like it needs a good scrub, and someone should brush it.