2 Samuel 17:15-18:15

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Would one of you gentlemen like to open us up with a word of prayer? Takers Thank you for allowing us to see another day

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Holy Spirit intervention Lord, we would understand the message or that we would all

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Empower needs to you in the interpretation that you know correctly, you know exactly what took place

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You know exactly the motive and the intentions Lord in your purpose and mission So may we learn it from you?

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All right I'm reading a very long passage. I'm gonna read where we left off last week at verse 15 of 17, and then

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I'm reading all of chapter 18, and I'm trying to get through that today, so I'm gonna move a little quickly

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Then who shy said to Zadok and Abiathar the priest this is what Ahithophel Counseled Absalom the elders of Israel, and this is what

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I have counseled now therefore sin quickly and tell David saying do not spend the night in the fords of the wilderness, but By all means cross over or else the king and all the people who are with him will be destroyed now

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Jonathan and Ahiames Were staying in in Rogel and the maidservant would go and tell them and they would go and tell

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King David for they could Not be seen entering the city, but a lad did see them and told

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Absalom So the two of them departed quickly came to the house of a man in Baharun or Baharim Who had well and who had a well in his courtyard and they went down into it and the woman took a covering and spread

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Over the well's mouth and scattered grain on it so that nothing was known then Absalom servants came to the woman at the house and said where are

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Ahimas and Jonathan Okey -doke I was like thought it was gonna start reading it for me.

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I'm like man. This is awesome I don't know why it just popped up And he said and he said where is

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Ahimas and Jonathan and the woman said to them They have crossed over the brook of water

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And they stretched and they searched and could not find them and returned to Jerusalem and it came about They had departed that when they had departed that they came up out of the well and went and told

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King David and they said to David arise cross over The water quickly for thus

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Ahithophel has counseled against you and David and all the people who were With him arose and crossed over the

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Jordan by the dawn not even one remained who had not crossed the Jordan Now when

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Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed he saddled his donkey he arose He went to his home to his city.

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He set his house in order and It's mine says it strangled himself. He's hung himself

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Thus he died and was buried in the grave of his father and David came to my

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Mahanim and Absalom crossed the Jordan he and all of his men and all the men of Israel with him and Absalom set a

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Mesa over the army in the place of Joab now Mesa was a son of a man whose

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Name was Ithra the Israelite who went into Abigail the daughter of Nahash the sister of Zeriah Joab's mother and Israel and Absalom Camped in the land of Gilead now when

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David had come to Mahanim Shovee the son of Nahash from Rabah the son of Ammon and Mekar the son of Abiel From Lodabar and Barzilla the

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Gileadite from Rogolin brought beds Basins, pottery, wheat, barley, flour, parched grain, beans, lentils, parched seeds, honey, curds sheep and cheese of the herd for David and for the people who were with him to eat for they said the people will grow weary and Hungry and thirsty while they're in the wilderness

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And then David numbered the people who were with him and set over them commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds

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David sent the people out One -third under the command of Joab one -third under the command of Abishai the sons of Zeriah and Joab's brother and One -third under the command of Ittai the

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Gittite and the king said to the people I myself will surely go out with you but the people said you shall not go out with us for if we indeed flee they would not care about us even if Half of us were to die they would not care about us, but you are worth ten thousand of us

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Therefore now it is better for you to stay in the city and the king said to them whatever seems best to you

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I will do So the king stood beside the gate and all the people went out hundreds and thousands and the

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King charged Joab and Abishai saying to Ittai you deal gently for my sake for my young man son

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Absalom and all the people heard when the king charged all the Commanders concerning Absalom and the people went out into the field

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Against Israel and the battle took place in the forest of Ephraim and the people of Israel were defeated

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There before the servants of David and the slaughter that was there was great It was twenty thousand men for the battle

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There was spread out over the whole country and the forest devoured more people that day than the sword did

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Now Absalom came it came about that Absalom Happened to meet the servants of David To Absalom was riding on his mule and the mule went up under a thick branch of A thick place of branches and a great oak and his head

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Was caught fast in the oak So he went and left hanging there between the heaven and earth and while the mule

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Went on riding about from under him and when a certain man saw it he told

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Joab He said behold I saw Absalom. He was hanging in the oak and Joab said to him

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Now behold you saw him why then did you not strike him to the ground and I would have given you ten pieces of silver and a belt and the man said to Joab even if If I should receive a thousand pieces of silver in my hand

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I would not put out my hand against the king's son For in our hearing the king charged you and Abishai and Ittai saying protect for my

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Protect for me the young man Absalom And otherwise

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If I would have helped treacherously with my own life and there is nothing hidden from the king then you yourself would have stood aloof

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Then Joab said I will not waste my time here with you. So he took three spears in his hand

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He thrust them through the heart of Absalom while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak hanging from the oak and ten young men

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Who were carried with Joab's? Ten young men who carried Joab's armor gathered around and they struck

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Absalom and killed him Then Joab blew the trumpet and the people returned from pursuing Israel for Joab restrained the people

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They took Absalom cast him into a deep pit in the forest and erected over him a great heap of stones and all

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Israel fled Each to his tent now Absalom in his lifetime Had taken and set up for himself a pillar which was in the king's valley for he said

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I have no son to preserve my name So he named the pillar after his own name and it is called

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Absalom's monument to this day Then Ahimaaz the son of Zadok said please let me run and bring

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The king the news that the Lord has freed him from the hand of his enemy, but Joab said you are not

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The man to carry this news this day, but you shall carry this news another day However, you shall carry no news today because the king's son is dead

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Then Joab said to the Cushite Go tell the king what you have seen so the

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Cushite bowed to Joab and he ran now Ahimaaz the son of Zadok Said once more to Joab, but whatever happens, please let me also run after the

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Cushite and Joab said Why would you run my son since you will have no reward for going but whatever happens

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He said I will run so he said to him run then Ahimaaz ran By way of the plain and passed up the

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Cushite now David was sitting between the two gates and the watchman Went up to the roof by the gate of the wall and he raised his eyes and he looked and behold a man was running

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By himself the watchman called the and told the king the king said if he is by himself

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There is good news in his mouth and he came near and near then a watchman saw another man running and a watchman called to the gate

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Keeper and said behold another man is running by himself as well. And the king said this one also is bringing good news the watchman said

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I Think the the running of the first one is the running like Ahimaaz the son of Zadok and the king said this is this

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Is a good man and he comes with good news and Ahimaaz called and he said to the king all is well

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And he prostrated himself before the king And his face to the ground and he said blessed is the

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Lord your God who has delivered of the men Who lifted up their hands against my lord?

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And then the king said it is well with the young man Absalom and Is it well with the young man

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Absalom and Ahimaaz answered and when Joab sent to the king's servant your servant

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Your servant came and I saw a great tumult, but I did not know what it was

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Then the king said turn aside and stand here So he turned aside and he stood still and behold the

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Cushite Arrived and the Cushite said let my lord the king receive good news for the

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Lord has freed you this day We're in the hand of all those who rose up against you and then the king said to the

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Cushite Is it well with the young man Absalom and the Cushite answered? Let the enemies of my lord the king and all who rise up against you for evil

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Be as this young man, and then the king deeply moved and went Thank you for his faithfulness to bring your word even in the midst of him

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Be a personal sorry And pray that you give him strength even to judge him Let him rest in you

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I love you father I'm so sorry I'm so sorry

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I love you There's nothing to be sorry about Not at all I've prayed that prayer twice

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I'm so sorry You're good man So back at 15 and 17 where the

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Cushite had said to Zadok and to Abiathar the priest Remember Zadok and Abiathar the priest were actually

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David had sent them back into the city To basically hear what was to be said and to bring him word

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So he sends them back If you remember Ahithophel's counsel was against David that David would be killed in the plains

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And Ahithophel's counsel against David If you remember what Hushai Remember what the

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Archite Hushai the Archite came And he basically was doing what David's prayer was

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Was that he would thwart the plans So that is exactly what's happening

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David and his men In verse 16 it says Do not spend the night in the fords of the wilderness

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But by all means cross over Or else the king and the people will be destroyed

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And Jonathan and Ahimez were staying in Rogel In a maidservant

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So here it is They tell them what's taking place David's going to cross Remember we mentioned

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I think it was last week Once David crosses the Jordan Remember when they crossed the

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Jordan That was considered the promised land So David is actually now Exiled Is how

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I understand that And um Now that he is basically exiled

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And he's going to go To Mahanim And if you remember what Mahanim was

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That's the place where Ishbosheth Had set up his home base Well let me back that up Where Adner had propped up Ishbosheth To go against David So that's where David goes

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Now as he goes there They um It says that they could not enter a city

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So there was a lad That would come and go Or a woman that would give them

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Intel basically A lad saw them And he told Absalom So this is how this whole scenario

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Of them crossing the Jordan And fighting and all that Is because of this person seeing what goes on Pretty self -explanatory

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What takes place there Is that um The guy basically goes and snitches And he's this smart lady

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Says hey hop in this well I will hide you Um she throws a cover on it

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And she throws grain over it To make it look like it was the threshing Of it Come on in Um it was the threshing floor

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Or where they had already threshed The grain I was just thinking

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Yeah I thought about that How you would set a trap And you would set something over there

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For somebody to fall in So that is what has taken place And the man said

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And this will be the end of verse 20 Where are Ahimaz And Jonathan And the woman said to them

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They have crossed over the brook water And they searched for them and could not find them They actually hadn't crossed yet So It came about that after that they departed

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When they came up out of the well And they told King David So here it is They told David what was going to take place

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David arose He realized that Ahithophel's Had betrayed him

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And I don't know if you remember When we were in the other room And I was teaching through 1

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Samuel I was making comparisons at times With Christ And David And just making connections

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And if you look at Ahithophel He is King David's betrayer He was going to give

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David over to be killed Much like Judas Gave Christ over What's that?

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Yeah He actually called to I will strike him down myself Yeah And I'm not

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Defending Ahithophel But there was some vengeance in that In the sense of David was a home wrecker to him

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So As he hears that Oh wow

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The counsel that I have given Has been turned to bad

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Basically Ahithophel In many ways

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How I understand it Is because his counsel Was understood by those two men

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As being the counsel of God So did Ahithophel In an act of Hey I've been found out of my betrayal

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Or Hey God is against me And I don't have that answer But we do know this

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Whatever Ahithophel did It grieved him deeply enough In a time of despair That he went home

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Remember he's going to get on his donkey He's going to ride home He's going to put his stuff in order

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So there's It's not like hey A split thought A guy takes a gun

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We're not talking about that We're talking about someone who goes home Gets his house in order He's riding his donkey from wherever it was

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There is some thought to this So he gets to where he is Mine says strangled himself

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Does everybody else say hung? I mean it's kind of hard to strangle yourself So we understand

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It to be as he hung himself And it says he was buried In the grave of his father

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Yes Ahithophel Was Bathsheba's grandad

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Yeah He hung himself Because his counsel had been turned

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Had looked out to be wrong His counsel was Hey I will go You give me 12 ,000

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I'll chase him down in the wilderness I'll strike him down Won't strike anybody else down I'll strike

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David down And then I'll bring his people back with you Basically he was telling Absalom You let me go

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I'll consolidate the kingdom for you So we understand That there was some malicious intent

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Based on Ahithophel Because that was his granddaughter He had killed Uriah her husband

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Eliam was Was one of the valiant men Which was Ahithophel's son

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Which we'll get into all that When we get I think it's in 22 Or 20 So in a sense it was

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Some form of conviction Like a worldly sorrow Which he ended up killing himself

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I can't pinpoint that I would say in Judas's Case it was worldly sorrow

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Which leads to death In this case I don't know Did he feel like His words were no longer good

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When he spoke It was like speaking the oracles of God So if he says hey if what I spoke was wrong He could be saying and correct me if I'm wrong

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You men have been studying the bible much longer than me If he saw himself as a false prophet And what happened to false prophets?

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They're killed So was he saying Hey I'm going to go out In a way that is more

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Just to let you know suicide back then was considered More of an

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Honorable way to go Yeah I mean why do you have men

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Falling on their swords Yeah falling on their swords And even when we get to Daniel we'll talk about how

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The prophecy Well I can't get too much Anyway they would take The zealots would take

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They would roll dice Basically and instead of Being captured by the

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Romans Or captured by Seleucid empire or whatever Some of them would say hey we're going to cast

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Lots and as they go you kill my Family when he gets down to the last two They cast which one's going to Kill who and then that last

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Person kills himself That's actually how Josephus Masada Those were the zealots

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Josephus' writings That's what happened and actually I've been to the Place where they cast a lot

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It's pretty weird Happened there and it happened in Yotapeta That's how Josephus was spared but anyway

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That's all in Daniel When we get to it Interesting historical stuff that takes place

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Ok Ahithophel hangs himself David crosses

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The Jordan he gets to Mahanim Absalom now this is in verse 25

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And The kind of The narrative I mean the Genealogy of this guy is somewhat

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Weird to me And once I explain it you'll see What I'm talking about Now Emesa was pointed

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In place of Joab Over the Israeli army basically Did anybody

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As I read the narrative Y 'all read it as I was reading He was an

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Israelite Who had His father had gone into Abigail The daughter of Nahash Does anybody else say anything other than Nahash?

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Ok Who's been Nahash The whole time through the book The last book and this book

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It's been the Ammonite Remember the one that went to Jabesh Gilead So we have either

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Nahash This is what some commentators Exegetical people say I don't read just commentary

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I want to know what does it say So the exegetical commentary says Hey this may have been another name for Jesse That doesn't sit well with me

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It would make sense In the narrative Because Yes And the reason being is because It's sister

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Of Zariah Joab's mother Ok So I understand but in Every time the word

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Nahash is used In 1st and 2nd Samuel it is referring To the king of the Ammonite So To give you a

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Any clear Understanding of what this is I have no idea

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It does not change the Meaning of the text but it is very Confusing Obviously the original writers

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I mean the original readers from this author Understood who it may have been

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Um Bert What was your understanding of Because you obviously had studied this in the past What is your understanding of who this person is

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Nahash It does not change the meaning of the text Ok And some say

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Sure and some say It could have been An adulterous affair That's all conjecture

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We just don't know Stuff like that drives me insane Just to let you know You have to leave it going

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Hey we don't really know He obviously Amasa Was related to Joab We would agree with that right

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Based on this Keep that in mind Because of what takes place in the next coming chapters

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Um What takes place with him and Amasa Now when David had come to Mahanim Here it is

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Shobi the son of who Nahash So you understand why it is hard to understand

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And this Nahash here Is speaking of who The king of the Ammonites You remember what brought about The The David staying at home being on the roof

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You remember what city they were besieging Rabbah Why were they doing that Because when

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David heard that Nahash had died Hunan His son

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Took the messengers That David sent to console him Remember cut off gave them buttless chaps

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And cut their beard off So That is

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It's just weird It's hard for me Maybe it's just me Hard to grasp what's going on Other than the fact that this person

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Once David had taken that 75 pound crown Off of Hunan's head

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And put it on his own That his brother Who this person is

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Started paying tribute to David Then Rabbah The son of The sons of Ammon And Emekar the sons of Hamil And from Lodabar And Barzillah the

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Gileadite From Rogalim So remember all these people up in this area David Had obviously had built some alliance

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With them And they were taking care of David They saw David as the anointed king I do believe that David Had built alliances with those people

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When he was on the run Just to let you know Because if you go back It says that David had a relationship

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He showed loving kindness And the word is the covenantal word For Chesed with Nahash So did he make

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On his run from Saul Did he make some type of covenantal Relationship with Nahash To be kind to him

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Not try to strike him down Well those people take care of him They send all these things

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Interesting that it says that They They send beds

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I'm thinking They just need food But he sends them pottery and basins

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In other words it looks like they're going to be here a while So let me set Them up for some provisions

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To hold them over for a little bit House warming gifts Yeah in the wilderness So now it says

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And they did that for the purpose of How we would understand it Plain and clear they're going to be hungry

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They're going to be weary and they're going to be thirsty But we didn't see any wine there did we

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Does anybody see any wine I just noticed that They didn't send any wine so I guess they're going to be drinking from the Jordan That's a pretty dirty river isn't it

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I drank from that Jordan river I don't know why But by the grace of God nothing happened

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Man that's dirty Yeah it's dirty When people said

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Hey we want to get baptized I mean you talked about it the other day About people wanting to get baptized in the Jordan River Like man that's some dirty water over there

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Alright so now we get to 18 David numbered the people Who were with him and they sent them over Commanders of thousands hundreds and some of hundreds

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Remember when this Started early on It only said there were 600 with him

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Correct Now with those 600 Would have been Probably the mighty men

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That were with him In this case now we're noticing That there is at least 3 ,000 because if you set

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Them up in thousands There's at least 3 ,000 because you don't send one with Thousands and hundreds

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So there's at least 2 ,000 Yeah there's at least 3 ,000 one for Ittiy One for Abishai and one for Joab Because you're going to split them up in threes

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And then however they do that in hundreds Maybe they then broke them down into hundreds Under Abishai Could be wrong

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You set them down in three divisions right Correct and sent them on their way That way if one got slaughtered

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That's how they do that That way if one got slaughtered They would still have another part of the army to take place

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And if you remember David did that early on With Saul Very smart militarily

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Don't put all your men in one spot Yes don't put all your men in one spot So they

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They split up But he gave specific Instructions and what were those

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Instructions I noticed he didn't say Don't worry about killing anybody else

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Don't worry about Getting in a fight with your countrymen You just be gentle And kind to my son

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That's what he told him Actually he told all three And David was going to go

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Out to battle with him And what did they tell David Stay back I believe at this point

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Their understanding too Is that David's getting weary I believe that David At this point in his life

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He's probably Sixty He's getting Sorry I missed that The men, the leaders

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Joab The officers Joab, Abishai and Eti His three generals

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Them, what's that I don't I don't think so because he says

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Why they want him to go back They want him to go back because he says Hey the king's heads

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Worth more than ten thousand and that's true If the king falls what happens to the kingdom The kingdom falls too

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Hey if they can go out there They can slaughter ten thousand people They slaughter ten thousand people but the king's still on the throne

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Have they accomplished anything No, when the king falls Hey all through scripture

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Every kingdom Is connected to How the king is Ruling and reigning

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That's connected to us We're ruling and reigning As joint heirs with Christ So our identity is connected

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With who? The Lord Jesus Christ Their identity is connected To David The Defecting and rebellion

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Of Israel Is connected to who? Absalom Absalom And understand this as we went through this

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We're Anybody that opposes God's anointed king And we can make a spiritual application to this

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Anybody that opposes In this case we'll use Just a physical of what the text

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Is looking at. Anybody that has opposed David as being God's anointed King meets their demise

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Well we'd agree with that Correct? On the spiritual application of that, we look at that Anybody who opposes

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God's anointed King, the Lord Jesus Christ They will meet their demise There's no doubt.

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Either you bow your knee to him In this life As king of kings and lord of lords

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To your To your salvation And to being clothed in his righteousness

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In this life Knowing that we're going to be in eternal bliss with him Or you will bow the knee

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To your condemnation In the life to come And that's clear here

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Anybody that put their hand against David Wind up being struck down So They say hey

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Stay in the city And David basically says You're right. I'll do it.

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I'll stay This happens again too When they tell him hey You need to go back to the city

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He gets weary And he says hey You're better for you to stay You're getting too old for this

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It says So the king stood by the gate And all the people went out by the hundreds and the thousands And the king charged

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Joab and Abishai Deal gently with my son Absalom And all the people heard

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When the king charged all the commanders Concerning Absalom That's at the end of verse 5 So hey it says all the people heard

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There is a gathering of the people Here's the commanders You be gentle With one person

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My son David loved his son Regardless of his rebellion

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Regardless of his desire To kill David I do think that David believed that he could

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Reconcile those differences If they could come together If I can get him arrested per se I can bring him to me

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We can work through these details I believe that David's going to have to In David's mind

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I know we're trying to understand But David goes I've got a lot of Answering for things

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I had messed up in the past As an adult Dealing with Amnon And Tamar And all of that There's at least one guy sitting there

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Joab Oh yeah I think Joab sees

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Absalom as a full brat That's how I understand When I read that My question with that would be

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How come he didn't do that For those two years that happened How come he didn't try to reconcile

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During those two years that Absalom was in his kingdom Well my understanding of that If I didn't say this a few weeks ago

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Is my understanding is that David brought him back to reconcile David realized that Justice has to be dispensed

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Oh at that point So David's bringing his son back To be the heir to the throne

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He's murdered someone Now David could still As the

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Sovereign monarch Could He could But that's not what

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David did David instead said I just don't want to see him in my presence So at some point My understanding could be wrong

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I'm not willing to die on that hill My understanding is as he got him back Because he longed to see

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Absalom As they were bringing him back David said you know what I just don't want him in my face I'm going to have to deal with this justice issue

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Because what did David continually do He dispensed justice People murdered people

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What did David do He killed them He didn't kill Joab smart move politically

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Early on Because he needed Joab But what did he say He made a condemnation to Joab Joab said

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I'm going to let God take care of that He deserves to die Him and his brother are wicked I'm going to let God take care of it

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And God does take care of that Through Solomon When he gives him the godfather speech

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And we must remember too That Joab brought Absalom back Absalom wasn't coming back necessarily on his own

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So I think he had a problem Not wanting to deal with David And talk about this situation Yeah and I do think

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I think Absalom coming back Saw the opportunity Because he was calculated for two years

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To kill his brother I do think he was calculated And if I come back

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I can start making my way to the throne Remember he's the next heir to the throne He's the next guy

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Either I kill my dad To get to the throne Or I can do this coup because my dad's getting weak and old

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That's how I understand it And the coup seems like the easiest way What does that mean? Taking the military and overthrowing the other government

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A coup Ok So Where are we at?

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So Absalom Oh I'm sorry In verse 7 it says there was a great slaughter

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There that day And I do like how it tells us That there was a great slaughter

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But what killed more people than the sword? The trees The trees So David Knowing this area

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From his days of running the streets Per say, running from Saul He knew, man

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I can get up in here This becomes to a place Where they're not used to fighting And where they're not used to going and chasing people

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Same thing happened too When the Philistines backed with Jonathan What did Jonathan and his armor bearer do?

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They took them up into the woods Because they were used to fighting out in the plain Excuse me They were used to fighting out in the plain

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Jonathan and his armor bearer takes them up into the woods And gets them where they can slice them and dice them It wasn't like roadside

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No And they're not out in the middle of like The valley of Megiddo Where they would

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And just so you know that was a major place Where armies would gather to fight Because it was a huge plain Even Napoleon got stood up there on the mountain

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Says hey on Mount Jezreel And he says all the armies of the world Could gather into this bowl and fight

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So What's interesting is

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The choice The choice of what he's using Wasn't a horse

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It was a donkey And all Well the donkey is

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When a donkey comes in or the riding on a donkey That's peaceful and we'll get to Zechariah When we read in main service

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Horses for war Donkey unless Donkeys were easier

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To hop the rocks That would be the only reason For knowing that It says it's a mule

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So it's probably hybrid I thought that Where was his sword

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Where was his sword I thought that too Because a lot of times their sword was not on them

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It was in a sheath On whatever Vehicle of war that they were on And we're not going to finish

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Silly Mike Silly Mike So They're devoured in More were devoured in the country

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On that day than by the sword Absalom Happened to meet the servants of David For Absalom was riding on his mule

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The mule went under and thick branches Grabbed his hair Remember early on we learned hey man this dude's got a fro

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He's got a fro It grows out every year He cut it and it was like Seven pounds or something

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So we understand that when we read that Early on we make a mental note This is

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Yeah just like when you're watching A TV show and there's a gun left on there Murder mystery or something

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What was that doing there Yeah A little bit of seemingly Useless information

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Yeah let me get to Let me get to Where He struck down by the man

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So then Joab said to the man who saw it Why didn't you strike him down This is in verse 11

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He said I would have given you ten pieces of silver and a belt He said hey I would have made you rich And I would have given you

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Cool clothes And giving someone a belt Means you're going to be more like a commander And he knows the character

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And the Nature of Joab He said if I would have done that The king would have said a word to me

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You'd have struck me down So he knows you'd have double crossed me And then hearing that Absalom says you know what

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Shut your mouth I'll take care of it myself He grabs three spears or javelins And he goes and while he's suspended there

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Can't defend himself Joab he strikes Absalom down Now He was faithful to his command

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He was faithful to his command He said I'm not going to do this He said you heard what the king said in front of everybody

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Now you're going to do what he said not do We read the verse that said he told everybody Everybody was around And now back to Joab Joab's not looking out

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For David he's looking out for what The kingdom as a whole He thinks that what he's doing

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Is in the best bet but he's defying The king once again He does what the king tells him

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Not to do kill his son But once again we get to the end Of the book

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When he has I'm sorry in 1 Kings Chapter 2 when he gives the godfather

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Speech the parting He does not tell Solomon you kill

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Joab for what he did to your brother And my understanding Is the reason they were at war

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He did disobey him But they were at war When he kills Amasa And he killed

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Abner they were at peace And he says you go kill Joab because he killed men at peacetime

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Alright we got to stop You pray for us Heavenly father

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We thank you for your word And we thank you that it's true And that it lasts forever We pray lord that As we read that we would

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Not only have our minds Expanded with knowledge but we would have Our hearts conformed to the image of Christ We pray that you would bless our brother

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For bringing your word And we pray lord that you would be with our brother Keith As he brings the message today

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Pray that you would be with the worship service Pray that everything that's said and done Would be pleasing to you