(John) the Appointment of Christ — Willie Mullan

The Journey from Judea to Galilee

Turning to John's Gospel again this evening, John, chapter four, please. For the past five or six or seven weeks, we have been journeying with Jesus through John's Gospel. And last week we traced the footsteps of the Master right down from Cana in Galilee, right down to Jerusalem here, and we finished the meeting where he went out into the wilderness of Judea, and there beside the Jordan he bobbed right.

And we're following him from there this evening as we head back again to Galilee, but we shall find out that on this occasion he must need gospel together. And I think we'll not get much further than that this evening.

The Divine Appointment of Christ

We're at John, chapter four, and I have a few headings to put before you as you look at your notes. First of all, I want to deal with the appointment of Christ, because I honestly believe that from a way before the foundation of the world, before the heralds in order stood, or as received its frame, I believe the great eternal God had marked the spot and the time when this woman of Samaria would meet the Savior and, yet gloriously said, become a believer in the Messiah.

I believe that that was an appointment that our Lord knew right where he had to keep, and we shall look carefully at the appointment of Christ. And then, secondly, we shall look at the advancement of Christ.

I think that we have great teaching here this evening in the chapter for all who have to deal with Paul, how very carefully, how very wonderfully, how very wisely the Savior approached this woman. The advance of Christ, right down into the very depths of our needy heart, is something that we will need to underline and take time with this evening.

Third, having the enticement of Christ, you see, Christ was really fishy for this cause, and he used the bait here to entice her to himself, and I think we'll need to take time with that also. Then, again, we are face to face with the discernment of Christ, who knew things that seemingly were impossible for an ordinary human to know.

He'd never met her, but he knew all about her past, and all about her present, and no doubt at all all about her future. Then comes the great announcement of Christ, said something to this woman that he didn't say to very many.

He said, I am the Messiah. Well, I think that must have been a wonderful, electrifying moment when this announcement came, and then we shall see him enthroned in our heart and life, as she went away pinging and bringing others to the Savior.

And so there we have the headings, these are only the bones, and we need the book to put the beef on the bones. Now, we're beginning at John, chapter 4, right up to the very first verse, and you need to keep it very carefully, when, therefore, the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, though Jesus himself baptized not but his disciples.

He left Judea. I think we need to take time with this, because there is a very special wording used here by the Holy Ghost. Do you see the word, Lord, when, therefore, the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard about Jesus?

Do you see how the word changes? And, of course, the word, Lord, is making us face to face again with the divine wisdom and knowledge that the Son of God ever had. You know, some of the modernists would love to tell us that he was rheumatized in his knowledge, but I don't believe that for the moment, of course.

Christ’s Supernatural Knowledge

You remember how this has come before us again and again? Just cast your mind back for a moment. Go back to the first chapter. You remember Philip going to find Nathanael, and at verse 47, Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold, in Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile.

Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? You see, he had never seen the man before, and yet he knew that this was an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no guile. And you remember the answer of Jesus.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee. Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God. You see, this was the knowledge of the Son of God.

I believe, honestly, that Nathanael was reading the story of Jacob under the fig tree, and seeing all the twistedness of Jacob's life, how he bluffed his brother, and bluffed his father, and bluffed his employer.

Nathanael made up his mind there and then that he would be an Israelite without deception. And the Lord knew the depth of the thought. And when we come to John, chapter 2, you remember the end of the chapter.

Verse 23, When he was in Jerusalem after Passover in the feast day, many believed in his name when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, or the word commit is believe.

Jesus did not believe in them, because he knew all men, and needed not that any should testify of man, for he knew what was in man. Last week, when Nicodemus came to him, a ruler of the Jews, a member of the Sanhedrin, why Jesus knew his deepest need.

What this great, big, religious, moral, upright man needed was new birth. Jesus knew. And here again, without anyone coming and telling him, the word is used, the Lord knew. When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, so that we have the knowledge of the Lord before us.

And then I think at the same time we have the wisdom of the Christ before us. You see, it does say here, though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples did the baptism. I think that was very wise.

You see, I believe for two reasons the Lord never baptized anyone. You see, if some of the folks had got baptized by the Lord himself, why, pride would have taken command, and in a day to come, a fact would have arisen that they were baptized only by the Lord.

So he was very careful that he didn't do the baptizing. And then you see, if baptism had something to do with your salvation, Jesus would have surely have done it. But he didn't, you know. No, we only baptize those who are already saved.

Baptism has got nothing to do with making you saved. What's the wording here, do you see? When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus, what? Made. Jesus made. That comes first, doesn't it?

Made what? Made disciples. Made and baptized, which comes first, the making of the baptism. Well, if you can read, you can read, can't you? Yes, Jesus made the disciples first, and baptized them. And don't go putting it round the other way, because you're reading your Bible upside down if you do.

If you baptize them and then try to make them, my, you're putting the calf before the horse. I didn't print the book, you know, that's in your lap. It is God's Word, and it's very carefully done. And every word is placed and produced and preserved by a divine person.

And Jesus made, made disciples first, and then baptized them. You can only baptize believers anyway, and so you see the wisdom of the Christ. But I want you to notice this. When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, though Jesus himself baptized not but his disciples, he left Judea and departed again into Galilee, and watch this phrase, and he must needs go through Samaria.

The Guidance and Grace of Christ

You see, I've been pointing out on this map behind me, that when our Lord came from Galilee down to Jerusalem, my, they always crossed the Jordan just about here. And they came down the valley that is called the Valley of Puria, and they crossed the Jordan just before we come to the Dead Sea, and went into Judea.

Because no Orthodox Jew would pass through Samaria. They always go outside of it, and down, and aim. And I believe that our Lord did that on several occasions. But you see, being the Lord, and knowing that the moment had come when he must meet the woman, there was an appointment to be kept.

On this occasion, instead of going across the Jordan, the book says, he must needs go through Samaria. My, I think that's wonderful. You see, you can see not only the guidance of the servant here, but the grace of the Savior.

You see, although our Lord Jesus knew quite well that this appointment had to be kept, yet circumstances surrounding him now made him leave Judea. And, you know, God guides his servant through circumstances no matter about divine counsel.

Oh, I know we'll both work together for the one end, but you'll have to see more. You see, Jesus knew the divine will, and plan, and purpose of God about this woman. But here we find the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was now making and baptizing more disciples than John.

And, you know, they were annoyed when John had so great clout, so they're doubly annoyed now, and the Lord must leave Judea. They all hadn't come for him to be given into the hands of sinful men, whose circumstances are surrounding him, and he's moving, even through circumstances, into the will of God that he knew so well.

I think we should see these things. They're all together. And so you can see in the beginning of this chapter the knowledge of the Lord, and the wisdom of the Christ, and the guidance of the servant. He was being guided by circumstances of the servant of God.

And, you know, it must have taken grace to say, we're going through Samaria. Because all the Orthodox Jews, they wouldn't go. And I'm perfectly sure that some of his followers were just a little bit annoyed at this.

But, you know, our Lord Jesus, when he knew the will of God, always went forward no matter what men would say, or think. He was unafraid of the criticisms of men. And on this occasion, it's well put, he must need to go through Samaria.

Christ’s Humanity at Jacob’s Well

And then there's something that follows there. Then comes he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son, Joseph. Now, Jacob's well was there.

Jesus, therefore, being wearied with a journey, fast got on the well. And so do you see all the things that you have here? You have the knowledge of the Lord, he knew. You have the wisdom of Christ, he didn't baptize.

You have the guidance of the servant, just because the Pharisees were allowed, he moved out of Judea. Then you have the grace of the Savior. He must need, on this occasion, go through Samaria. And then you have the humanity of the vessel.

You know, after all, while he was God, he was yet man, he was wearied with the journey. How many things John packs in just a few phrases, and if you take your time, you will always get them. Now, we've got to the spot where Christ has left Judea once again, but on this occasion, instead of crossing the Jordan and going up the valley of Perea and into Galilee, on this occasion, just because it was the will of God and the eternal counsel had planned it from before the foundation of the world, Jesus must need to go through Samaria to meet this cruel woman of the well.

The Advancement of Christ Toward the Samaritan Woman

And we come now to the advancement of Christ. Verse 7, There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water. Verse 6, I think, first, Now Jacob's well was there, Jesus therefore being wearied with his journey, sapped that from the well, and it was about the sixth hour.

That's very difficult in John's gospel when you come to time. You see, if this was Jewish time, then it's the midday hour, and if it's Roman time, if we're counting by Roman time, then it was six o 'clock in the evening.

And it's very hard to, just with God's message, there are so many things that one could weigh on either side, and I've seen the scholars trying to prove from many things that it's Jewish time, and I've seen others proving that it's Roman time, and I don't think that anyone can be absolutely sure.

And I suppose for this clock this evening, it doesn't make a matter whether we're sure or not. I'm perfectly sure that that day, the woman's name was written in the Lamb's book of life, and those who keep the records in heaven will not only have note of the place, but they'll have perfect note of the time.

At such and such a time, such and such a woman was born there. There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink. For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.

Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou being a Jew, askest drink of me, which I'm a woman of Samaria? I believe she finished the conversation there. I think the other little phrase is a parenthetical phrase put in by the Holy Ghost, for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

The History of the Samaritans and Jewish Division

I think we must get some details here of just how this setup was, so as we'll see it perfectly. I think that the class knew of this quite well without me turning to it, that the first king of Israel was Solomon.

You remember that, how he stood head and shoulders above the people. Then you remember that the next king was David. Then you remember that the next king was Solomon. Now, when Solomon died, something happened in the nation.

Well, they fell out, just like believers fall out, just like God's people fall out. And they became divided. And we get two kings then, from that they fall. Ten tribes here in the north, followed another king.

And they're sometimes called the Northern Kings. And only two tribes, Benjamin and Judah, followed the royal king, Solomon's son, Rehoboam. And the other ten crowned Jeroboam. And there became two kingdoms in the land, with two royal cities.

Samaria was where the king of the ten tribes had his palace, and Jerusalem was where the king of the two tribes had his palace. We have two royal palaces. We have two kingdoms. We have two kings. The people of God are divided.

And we remember that after many years, the Assyrians came, and they carried the ten tribes away down into Assyria. And only a few very poverty-stricken Jews were left. And then the Assyrians sent some Gentiles back to take control of the country.

And these Jews, especially in the central part, these Jews married these Gentiles. And a mongrel race was produced, called Samaritans. And, of course, you know, they had to imitate everything to the last letter.

They built a temple of their own on Mount Jerusalem in Samaria. And then, after a while, the two tribes were taken to Babylon. And after a while, they came back and built the temple of God. And when the temple was being built, the mongrel crowds came down and said, Let's help you.

And they said, Hands off. You have nothing to do with this. And from that day forward, the Jews had no dealings with the Samaritans. Especially in the things of God. Now, don't read the New Dealings 2, rigidly, because I think you've got to take this into consideration.

Do you see verse 8? For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat. Well, they were buying some meat off the Samaritans. So you don't take it too rigidly. You've got the faith things that are in the chapter.

But in the things of God, and the worship of God, and the old ceremonial offerings, why, the Orthodox Jews had no dealings with the Samaritans. And one thing above all else, no Jew would drink after a Samaritan.

Never. And here is the blessed Lord of Glory sitting on the well, and the first thing he said was, Give me to drink. I think that was wonderful. Now, could I help some of you who may have, in the day to come, to deal with souls?

Humility in Evangelism

Because there's a tremendous lot to learn. The first thing that I notice here, when he went fishing after this woman, the first bit of advancement was this, he humbled himself. Let me tell you this, you'll never be much use to anybody if you think that you're better than they are.

But every time when I sit down beside the soul that's looking for the Savior, I always remember, first and foremost, that I'm only a poor lost sinner who was one day where that poor fellow is now. Jesus became friendly here, and humbled himself.

And I think it goes further than that, because this was not only a Samaritan, but do you see what Jesus said about the woman in verse 18? He said, Thou hast had five husbands, and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband.

She was living with a man she had no right to, and she had had five of them before that. You see, she was the character that no self-respecting man, as it were, would want to be caught alone with out of the well.

And that's how the world would put it anyway. But my master, you know, didn't worry too much about what the world said, but what the world said. And it would take his followers to be like him. You know, when Nicodemus came to see Jesus, he came by night.

Do you know why? Because he was afraid of his reputation. My, he was a ruler of the Jews. He was a master in Israel. He was a member of the Sanhedrin. And, you know, he had to come in the nighttime. He was afraid of his reputation.

But my Lord made himself of no reputation. I know some of the old, very reverent, holy doctor, this, that, and the other. They'd get into a fit that he didn't just title them the way they wanted. Well, there's none of that poopish nonsense that's on in this book.

And if you would like to tackle me, I'll show you thirteen letters that Paul wrote in this book, and he started every one of them with the word Paul. And if you'd like me to read you Peter, you'll find that Peter started his letter with Peter.

These were God's men. These were demons. These were men filled with the Holy Ghost, and there's no poopish nonsense about them. No, no. My Lord made himself of no reputation. He wasn't a bit worthy. You know, I know where you can find one of the nicest Christians that I know, worshiping with the brethren on Sunday morning now, and she's a knout and knout woman for God.

A Testimony of Seeking the Outcast

And I'll tell you how she could say it. I was coming through Belfast about five years ago, in the middle of the night. It was nearly one o 'clock in the morning. I was coming from Portobogli. And as I passed the corner of the street, I saw a lass standing at the corner of the street.

I knew right well what she was. You know, I've lived in the world, and I know a whole lot. She was a harlot, out to sell her body. And you know, it didn't take me very long to make up my mind what I would do.

I only went about fifty yards past her and stopped the car in the middle of the night, and this is asking for trouble from a lot of old dead butchers who wouldn't understand. And I got out of the car and walked back.

She just came smiling, she said, Good night, sir. I said, Wait a wee minute, dear. I'm not the man you think I am. I didn't come to give you a poem for the lend of your body, you know. I came to tell you about a sage who came from heaven, dear.

Went to the blood-stained cross of Calvary and died for a laugh with you, that you might get eternal life. I can see her yet, you know. She shook off. Got her head down. I could see the tear fall on the pavement.

Then she looked up. She said, My body, my body belongs to the brethren. I said, Well, you're a shame to them. I said, Go away home and think about your Savior. Get down on your knees and remember this text.

Though your sins be a scarlet, the blood of Jesus can make you whiter than snow. And she went home and got saved. And you see, if I'd worried very much about my reputation, oh, if I'd been caught in the middle of the night at one o 'clock in the morning with a harlot in the middle of Belfast, I would have been sunk and drowned and blew up and everything else.

But I'm not worried about one of you. You might as well get that straight and plain. I neither hear your song nor see your smile. If I'm in harmony with him, you can kick me about as much as you like, but I'll turn up on the top of the last.

My master was at the well with a woman that was no use, and the disciples were gone, and they were out in the country, but he was searching for a soul. He said, God, tell me here some of the great events.

Some of these poor harlots wouldn't go down into hell. Why, one of the worst women in the east of Belfast was saved when Willie Hagen, who's in heaven, that great brethren teacher, was coming down past the new princess, and all the folks in the east of Belfast always got off the footpath when this character went past.

Some people said she was rotten. But you know, the big man stopped her that day and put his hands on her shoulder, looked into her eyes, and he said, Dear, I want to tell you this, that Jesus loves you.

And he walked off. And she became a trophy for Jesus. You see, a man in life, but a woman that's down and out. My, don't wipe your feet on them. You couldn't give a track out for God. Your master was alone on the well, with a woman that some of you would have been afraid to set foot with.

We're followers. With a woman that some of you would have been afraid to set foot with. We're followers. We say we are. My, he humbled himself. I, and he made himself of no reputation or notification.

He was searching for souls. And if you can win them, it doesn't matter. Now, look at this. That's the advancement. You know, she just looked at him and said, Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, verse 9, How is it that thou, being a Jew, as all Jews should be, askest drink of me, which I am a woman of Samaria?

My, that was a lovely phrase for herself, wasn't it? I'm a woman of Samaria, and you're just a Jew. Never mind, the Lord was going on advancing down into the depths of her heart. Verse 10 now. And we come to the enticement.

The Gift of God and Living Water

He's putting the bait on the hook now. Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God's. Now, let's stop there. If thou knewest the gift of God's. Do you know what the gift of God is?

I think that almost everybody in this building could quote this tonight. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life. I think you could quote that. And I want you to take your time, dear unfaithful friend in the meeting.

Just sit back there just now, and I want you to get the hold of this. Eternal life is the gift of God's. Mind you, it's the gift of God's. I wouldn't need to start to educate this crowd on what a gift is, would I?

Well, this is the gift of God, dear. Eternal life, new life, life that will never end, this is the gift of God's. It's not something that you have to pray for. Well, that would be begging. That's not a gift.

And it's not something that you have to pay for. That would be buying. That's not a gift. And it's not something that you have to work for. That would be wages. That's not a gift. And it's neither begging, nor buying, nor working.

Let me get this over to you. This is the gift of God. Something you get just when you come and get it. Now, this must have made the woman look up for a moment. Is thou knewest the gift of God? Now, watch this.

And who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink? If you knew the gift, and if you knew the giver, thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. Now, I don't believe, of course, that the living water here was the gift.

I think we need to treat this very carefully. You see, last week we found out that we get life by the incorruptible seed of the word of God. And Paul said to the Corinthians, I have begotten you through the gospel.

And you know, the Lord Jesus can bring to you the sweetest message that ever fell on a mortal ear. And it's this, that for a poor, undone, unclean sinner like you, he left the heights of glory. And on wings of love he came down.

And for poor, ungodly, undone humanity, he went on to the rugged cross of Calvary. And on yon old blood-stained cross, he gave himself as a ransom. And on the foundation of that finished work, he came back from the dead to be a living saviour.

A real living saviour, that you can make your own saviour. And the book says, he that hath the Son hath life. That's the teaching of God's word. That's God's word, dear. He that hath the Son. And here's the bit that comes after it.

And he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. You got that? Because you could have religion, you know, and not of Christ. And you could have Masonic, and not of life. And you could have Orangeism, and not of life.

And you can have Roman, Pagan, Babylonian, idolatrous, potpourri, and not life. Have you got this? This is God's word, maybe you don't like it. He that hath the Son of life. The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord.

And the moment that you accept him as your saviour, as your sacrifice, as your substitute, as your shelter, as your sovereign, the moment you give your whole life into his hands and make him yours, only then and then only you taste life.

That's life indeed. One day he was talking to the woman. But watch this. Here's how the woman answered back. Verse eleven. The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep.

You see, she was as blind as a bat. She didn't even know he was talking about spiritual things. She was still at the material world. Do you know what our death was called? You know, you've become friendly, and you're prepared to humble yourself, and make yourself of new reputation, and show them what God has to give them in Christ.

And you know, sometimes the more you preach, the more blinded they seem to be. Well, she went on to wrap her in the book, The Well. Thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. You see, she began the talk with the Savior by saying, How?

In verse nine. How is it? And then she went on here saying, Sir, thou hast nothing. From whence then hast thou? Art thou glittered? Well, she asks a lot of questions, doesn't she? And you'll always find this if you're dealing with souls, and the devil's trying to keep them blinded, that they'll ask a lot of silly, stupid, foolish, unbelieving questions.

But don't let it annoy you. It never annoys the Savior. He's got the fish on, you know. People are in the dark. They don't know. Therefore, they're asking these questions. Now, the Savior goes on further now, doesn't he?

Watch this, verse thirteen. Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again, but whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst. You know, I think she saw that, didn't she?

Mary said, you're talking about the material, dear. Look, whoever drinks of this will thirst again, but whosoever shall drink of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst. You know, I count eternally such as fire the deepest longing of your soul.

You know that, dear sir, didn't you? That's good fishing, you know. That's good fishing. My! You know, she's beginning to see that there's something here that I haven't got. There's something that I can't get unto this well.

This man's got something. And then she answered back again. Look at verse fifteen. The woman said unto him, Sir, give me this water that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw it. You see, she was looking for the water now.

But you know, she had missed the person now. Oh yes, her mind had got off the material, and she was looking for this thing that would satisfy, but she was not connecting it with a man on the well. Oh no.

Oh no, she wasn't. And so he's starting on another line of faith. What's this? This is a question that doesn't seem to be in the talk at all. Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

You know, that was off the beaten track, wasn't it? The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus saith unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband, for thou hast had five husbands, and he whom thou knowest is not thy husband, in that saidst thou truly.

The woman answered and saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. Her eyes were beginning to open. You'll notice that she started calling him a Jew. And then she hadn't got long in the conversation till she changed it to Sir.

And now she's changed it to Prophet. Well, he's really working, isn't he? He's opening her eyes bit by bit. Says, Thou art a prophet. And do you know, now she knows, doesn't she, that the man who was so friendly, that the man who was so humble, the man who sat on the well to talk with her that day, that he knew everything about her.

While the people that only knew the half of her past wouldn't look at her. He knew it all. Yet there he is sitting with her, talking to her about eternal life. She says, You're a prophet. And then it goes on further than that.

Worship in Spirit and Truth

Watch. She goes on, verse 20, All fathers worshiped in this mountain. That was Mount Jerusalem. That's where they had built the temple. And ye say, that is the Jews, say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, The hour cometh when ye shall neither in this mountain nor yet at Jerusalem worship the Father. You worship you know not what. We know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth. For the Father speaketh such to worship him, God is a spirit. And they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah is to come, which is called Christ. When he is come, he will tell us all things. And that was a lovely wee bit. He will tell us all things. He will tell us all things about our past.

He will tell us all things about how to get life. He will tell us the way to God. He will tell us the truth. There was one coming who would be the way, the truth, the life. Jesus saith unto him. She's seen the Messiah now.

She started with you. She went to serve, to prophet, to Messiah. She was face to face in that wonderful moment with the Savior. Friend, it's a wonderful moment when you come face to face with him. You know, I want you to get the hold of this.

That day, as he sat on the side of Cycle's well, he was revealing himself and revealing herself to herself. But he was revealing himself as Messiah. That's not what the gospel task is tonight. The gospel task is this.

The Messiah Revealed and the Gospel Proclaimed

Let you see the Son of God who came down from the glory. Oh, what a wonderful story this is. That God sold out the world. He gave his only begotten Son. And that the Son of God became the Lamb of God to bear away the sin of the world.

And that the lovely Lord Jesus Christ went right from Bethlehem's manger down through the dusty highways of Judea right to the cross of Calvary. And jumped on the old blood-stained cross. He gave himself a sacrifice.

He laid down his life such as drops of ruby blood are a ransom. And on that finished work he rose again from the dead. And man and woman before you tonight there's a Savior. Face to face. And you are a saved one.

You've got something to do with it. You know, Pilate cried once. Do you remember, Pilate, when he was face to face with them? You know, I think it's one of the great moments in the Gospels. Matthew chapter twenty-seven and verse ten says, Jesus stood before the governor.

My true great personality. You can see the pomp and sight of the Roman governor. And he's looking into the eyes of the Savior of the world. It's a moment. It's a moment he'll never forget for all eternity.

And you know, he got cornered. And as he got cornered you remember he he run his hands and he cried What shall I do then with Jesus? And you know, he thought he'd get rid of him. He sent him down to Herod.