An Hour With Kathryn Kuhlman - Part 2 — Kathryn Kuhlman

Surrender, Salvation, and the Fullness of the Holy Spirit

In that moment, knowing nothing about the fullness of the Holy Spirit, everything that I know He has taught me, everything, belief, I know Saturday afternoon, having come to the place in my life where I surrendered everything, I knew nothing about the fullness of the Holy Spirit, I knew nothing about the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I knew nothing about speaking in an unknown tongue, I knew nothing about the deeper truths of the Word, all that I knew was that I loved souls, that's all that I knew, souls, souls, souls, knew that a person would be lost if they did not accept the Christ and His Savior, that's all that I knew.

The Sacredness of Personal Fellowship With God

Those moments with the tears streaming down my face and looking up and bowing have made each other promise. There are some things that you don't talk about, there are some things that are so sacred, you just don't talk about those things.

There are just some things that are terrifically personal between the two of you. It's like some things, you know, that are so personal between a husband and a wife, that you just don't display them out in public.

He knows that I'll be true to Him as long as my old heart will keep beating, and I'll know that I'll be true to Him. We have a path, and it's all separate, at the end of a dead-end street, four o 'clock, one Saturday afternoon.

Taking Up the Cross and Dying to the Flesh

And in that moment, when I yielded to Him, body, soul, and symbol of it, I knew then what that scripture meant, and you'll never change the meaning of it. If any man will follow me, let him take up his cross.

The last is always the sign, the symbol of death, symbol of demons die. Demons die. You that I don't even associate that name with myself, I'll tell you the truth. I've done. I have that death to the flesh.

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit and Speaking in Tongues

You don't know what I'm talking, there's some of you who know. When it comes to the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I know what I believe, and you'll never change my mind. I know. Nobody believes in the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Nobody believes in the fullness of the Holy Spirit. Call it whatever you will. Nobody believes in it any more than Catherine Truman. I know. I have experienced it. Experienced the baptism with the Holy Spirit, and now I want to go on record.

Pentecostal. I know Pentecostal than the most Pentecostal person who's claimed to be Pentecostal today. I believe in it as it was in the early church. I believe in a lot of fanaticism. I do not believe in the manifestation of the flesh, but beloved, I'm going to tell you something.

I believe in the speaking in an unknown tongue, but there are still people today who speak in an unknown tongue who have never been baptized with the Holy Spirit. When you are completely filled with the Holy Spirit, my friend, when you are baptized with the Holy Spirit, experienced as they had in the upper room, there will be a crucifixion of the flesh.

You will die. You will die. And there are a lot of professing to have been filled with the Holy Spirit who have never died to the flesh. That's the reason that scripture I read. He doesn't ask for golden vessels.

He doesn't ask for silver vessels. Had he wanted any of these, he would never have chosen that red-headed, mean, little man. Somebody will die. Somebody will die. And when I was baptized, I was filled with the Spirit.

I spoke in an unknown tongue as He took every part of me, rendered unto Him all there was of me. Then I realized what it meant to have power. You know, we talk about miracles. We don't have to. When we get in the position where the two meet, you'll see the results of that meeting.

The Holy Spirit as the Source of Spiritual Power

And there are a lot of miracles. Something you don't work out. My brethren, it's not something you work out. I started to preach on the Holy Spirit. He was so real to me. The Holy Spirit. Please let me just pause and say something.

Oh, I'm so sold on the Holy Spirit. Do you understand, people? Without the Holy Spirit, I don't have anything to lean on. If I'd been born with talent, I might have been able to lean on that. Had I had education, I might have used that as a crutch.

But I don't have a thing. I don't have a thing. I don't have a crutch. I don't have a thing to lean on. Take the basic. The most unlikely. Why? So that he might receive the glory. I'm so sold on the Holy Spirit because I know that without the power of the Holy Spirit, I don't have a thing.

I don't. Bear my soul. I'll bear my soul to you. Miracle services. Before I walk from behind the wings and come out on that stage, I die a thousand deaths. If the walk from behind the wings, behind the crutches, stand behind the pulpit, wherever it is, because I know better than anyone else that I have nothing.

Absolutely nothing. The world looks a little better than I do. Sometimes I think I walk so fast. I'm not conscious of walking so fast. But I think that I walk so fast because I can hardly wait for that anointing to come upon me.

I know that out there when I face that crowd and I stand there, that there are those people who are out there, some having made great sacrifices to come. There's cancer out there. Somebody's lost hope.

I'm so conscious of it. I'm so aware of it. And I know that I can't give it to them. I know that I have no healing virtue. People, I don't have any healing virtue. I don't have any healing power. Please believe me.

Without the power of the Holy Ghost, I'm sunk. Talk about the gifts of the Spirit. Believe me, I'll tell you the truth. I have never, and I'll live and die and no one will ever, hear Catherine Kuhlman boast of any of the gifts.

The Gifts of the Spirit and Their Proper Use

And I believe in the gifts. Oh, my brethren, my precious sisters in the Lord, I believe in the gifts of the Spirit. I believe in the gifts with every atom of my being. In fact, I believe so much in the gifts of the Spirit that I do not believe in limiting the Holy Spirit to just the nine gifts of the Spirit.

I believe that there are many more than just the nine. Don't limit Him. Don't limit Him. Whatever you do, be beloved. And not only in the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I believe that we should see the gifts of the Spirit in operation in every church in America.

When we come to the closing of this dispensation, we're going to see. Get ready. Today is the most up-to-date thing that I could talk to you about. We're living in the closing moments of this dispensation.

I'm talking to you about something that's vitally important. And I pray to God that out of this session, and out of this hour of speaking, the Holy Spirit shall call men and women that He can use who are willing to die to self.

I believe, beloved, in the gifts of the Spirit and the operation of the gifts. But I also believe that if one has received a gift or any number of gifts, he'll not go around boasting about it. When somebody comes in front of me and says, Ms. Kuhlman, I have the gift, the soul.

Reverence for the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit. I had an experience several weeks ago. A Jewish gentleman who had just found Christ in the Great Messiah. I was alone with him in a chapel. Saw a man. I heard a man. Worship God. I think that you and I get too familiar with God.

Don't confuse what I just said. Please do not. Sometimes I think we get too familiar with Him. He's the Holy Spirit. In even His name. The name. Sometimes I think we get too familiar with the Holy. I can only tell you my relationship with Him.

That's all so wonderful. Do you realize that He is the power of the Spirit? He's as real as human beings. I live a very lonely life. But I'm not in the crowds. I'm alone. He's all that I have. I've learned to follow Him.

He's the person that I can use. You know, we've tried to use the Holy Spirit for so long. We've tried to use it. And we've gotten into trouble. That's the reason some of our testimonies are so empty. So without power.

Knowing the Holy Spirit as a Person

That's what we've gone off into. In the flesh. Have you really gotten acquainted with Him? Do you really love someone? Do you want to know their decisions? Their likes and their dislikes? Do you really know?

Do you know Him as a person? Not just in having spoken in tongues. I'm talking about really knowing a person. I would not dare boast of having any tips. Because after all is said and done, it's in the Holy Spirit using the empty vessel.

The Holy Spirit. That's all. Agonizing. Maybe you've tried so hard. Just stop trying and surrender. I've had a lot of things to unlearn. I'm glad I'm stupid. I'm just stupid. I looked at Dr. German last week with all of his degrees, and I thought, you poor fellow.

I used to envy the men who've had all of their degrees. That the greatest power in the whole world is the Holy Spirit, beloved. When you miracles take place, to this very day, I am as amazed, I am as thrilled as though I had never seen a miracle happen before in all my life.

God’s Power Through Weak and Unlikely Vessels

In the auditorium. Maybe more so because I know better than anyone else that I have nothing to do with it. By might. It's not by power. By my spirit. Because it's not by might and because it's not by power, you have to choose the weak things, the base things, the most unlikely things in the whole world.