Anaheim Talk — Kathryn Kuhlman

This tape is a Katherine Kuhlman service. Should this tape for any reason be defective, please explain and return to Post Office Box 516, Hot Springs, Arkansas, ZIP 71901. Thursday afternoon, July the 3rd, 1975.

22nd World Convention, the Forgotten Businessmen's Fellowship, being held at Anaheim Convention Center, Anaheim, California. This tape is a Katherine Kuhlman service. Should this tape for any reason be defective, please explain and return to Post Office Box 516, Hot Springs, Arkansas, ZIP 71901, for replacement.

Thank you, Tony Smith, for that beautiful number.

Let's all stand together and sing How great Thou art. Open your love There.

The Father, the Son, and the Coming Kingdom

Underneath all of the uncertainties of life You and I have security. He who spoke the world into existence He who said of death there'll be light and there was light Is our heavenly Father. And there's no uncertainty about that.

That's His right hand in position of great high priest His only begotten Son. And one of these days every knee will bend Every head will bow Of all nations, all tongues, all kindreds And the world will crown Him the mighty King of kings and Lord of lords.

And John said in the book of Revelation And I heard I heard the voices of these millions As they adored Him and sang All they knew All they worshipped. That wonderful moment when the world will crown Him the King of kings Lord of lords.

Worst Whoever lives to make intercession for you and for me. You and I have a hearing before the Father's throne As we come in His name Under the Nether And the great place of worship As the very angels take it up with us and sing.

Lift it everywhere. All the Lord would ever like to be so careful of you.

To praise, to give you the honor, to give you the glory. For everything that the Holy Spirit does in His place of worship today. You'll not share the glory with any human being. And we bow. To give you all the glory All the praise for everything that the Holy Spirit does.

For it's not by might. It's not by power. But it's by my Spirit. Sayeth the Lord Amen. Thank you. Thank you, you may be seated, oh thank you. Thank you, thank you. Well anything can happen in the great auditorium today, you know that.

And way up there, as far as I can see this Folk all seated,. God love you. When I say three, everybody in the great auditorium say Amen. No, no, no, wait till I say three. I know it's just like that. The very atmosphere, it just permeates with the presence of the Holy Spirit.

When I say three, then say Amen. One, two, three. Amen. You know we're loaded today.

Out there, you folk are way up there.

Don't feel so bad if you didn't get kicked out on the main floor. But remember something, if we have the great catching up. If we have the rapture before I get through speaking. You'll be the first ones up.

And one of the greatest living things today. Give our dear brother Sha 'Carion. A great big God bless you. Everybody in this auditorium, stand. Stand. Come on.

God bless you. He's a modest man. I tell you what, I'm going to have my turn now. Catherine Coleman. Shaking the world, let's tell her we love her, shall we. Here you man, come on now. Oh God.

Thank you, thank you. That's so kind of you. Thank you. And I want you to know if you had lived and died And you'd never have seen Catherine Coleman. You wouldn't have missed a thing. So sit down, God bless you.

You know I kind of have a very great privilege For the Full Gospel Businessmen. To invite me to be one of their guest speakers. I've been with these businessmen a long time. It's been years, hasn't it?

Several years I've been with you. And it still proves that the men need the women. But just thanks. Just thanks for inviting me. I kind of have a great privilege. And I pray that before the last song will have been sung.

That each of us Will have felt the wonderful presence of the Holy Spirit. Let me for just one minute check the sound. Before our Jimmy sings. Because I want you to get every word. How many cannot hear in the auditorium.

Say Amen. Well how do you know what I said? Let me see again. There's just a section up there. I'm not as scared as that to say anything, you know. What? How many of you, is it just one section up there?

Can you hear now? One person has good hearing up there. I'll have to pray for the rest of them after this service. You know that? Is it all right now? Hey, well where are you? I'm seeing you. The crowd is so great.

I can't even see you. You're behind the stage. Are you sure there's someone up there? I have to take your presence by faith. How many of you folks behind the stage. And I can't even see you. I have to know whether you're there or not.

Say Amen. All right, I checked out your hearing.

You can hear. You're all full out.

I don't care whether you hear me or not. Just so you feel the presence of the Holy Spirit. You know, and it's just like that. That's another good part of things. Of everything. And now I pray that not one person Shall see Kathryn Kuhlman.

Not one. Not a man, not a woman, not a child In this place of worship Shall see thy service. Come upon this people. I pray that the Holy Spirit Shall have perfect liberty. Oh, for a thousand times. Tell what we have experienced What we feel What we know to be the truth.

May the Holy Spirit Come upon this people And give us great spiritual revelations As we wait in your presence. This great world convention is so timeless. These things do not just happen. They are a part of your plan.

They are a part of your great schedule. Time is running out. You've chosen certain people As you have chosen. Dear Mr. Suker. To be the leader of literally thousands And thousands of businessmen Throughout the world.

It's a part of your great plan. People gathered here from all nations. It's a part of your great plan. As we honour the great third person. The Trinity The Holy Spirit. Wherever one finds the presence of the Holy Spirit.

We find that he always glorifies And always magnifies Jesus. May Jesus get great glory From this service today. Granted. Amen. I shall not speak to you of any great name. So don't feel as though you are going to be here the rest of the afternoon.

Somehow I have the reputation of holding long services. I don't know why I don't have the slightest idea. I get going you know. And I forget to stop. And we never have a benediction. You know that. And it goes on for hours.

But I promise you It shall not be any great length today. You have a wonderful speaker tonight. Rex Hombard is going to be the speaker tonight. Come here Rex. Come here. Come here. Rex Rex how many years have we known each other.

I'm not going to tell because I don't want to say I'm getting old. And I know you're not.

Oh no Rex.

You know we're not. I'll tell you how long we've known each other. We've known each other until we remember the days of a tent. And brother we didn't have an auditorium like this. She kicked up more sawdust in Akron, Ohio Than anybody that ever came to town Everywhere.

And the funny part about it We only had 6 ,000 seats And she tried to put 18 ,000 in that tent every time she came. But I'll say this That God has laid his hand upon Kathryn Kuhlman For this moment and this hour To reveal his supernatural power to the church.

And I thank God for her faithfulness. And how she can continually go City after city like she does I don't know. But God has given her the strength and the power. And how I thank God for it. And I know you do too.

Let's pray for her every day Let's lift up our hands every day And let's believe God every day For the miracle working power to continue. Amen. We love you.

God bless. I've never doubted it for a moment Rex. Believe me.

We always have loved you I know. My wife loves you too. And the thing with this I have to stay in good with Kathryn and Marty. They know too much on me.

I pray that tonight you'll have the greatest anointing you've ever had in your life. And you've had some great anointings. Believe me. But I pray that as you speak tonight You'll have the great anointing of the Holy Spirit.

And remember that tomorrow night Dr. Oral Roberts I pray that the power of God shall come upon him. I too am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt That God has chosen certain people for this hour. I believe that with every atom of my being.

Tonight remember Rex. Combine. Tomorrow night. Oral Roberts. Let's just pray you won't have the great catching up until. Cause I don't want to miss it for anything in the world you know. Do you realize that I seldom get a chance to go to church.

Do you realize that. Do you realize that I am in services constantly. A reporter asked me the other day. He said Kathryn Kumho what do you do to prepare. And I said prepare for what. He said well now what do you do to prepare for a service like this.

I said man I stay prepared. And it's just like that. It's just like that. You stay prepared. It's a constant thing. It isn't a profession. It's a constant thing. It's a 24 hour work. A talk show the other day.

And we were coming to the climax of it. And the one who was interviewing me Said Kathryn now what advice would you give To someone who wanted to do the same kind of work that you're doing. What advice would you give them.

And you know I burn it all out. I mean that's one thing it all comes out. And I said you want to read the note. I tell them don't do it. If you've never really been called of God. Don't do it. If you've never had a divine call of God.

Don't do it. Know that. If I were to stand up here and tell you that it's easy. You know that's all that some people see. Whenever I come out in a white dress. That's all that some people see is the white dress.

That's all they see. All they see is the glamour of it all. Well I'm going to tell you something. There are days and days of hard work. These things don't just happen. If I had not had a divine call from God Years and years ago when I first started out I wouldn't be standing before you this hour.

I know the one who has called me. I know for whom my call has come. I know the one who is my glorious strengthener. I know why I can keep going. I know the secret of the results of this ministry. And that's the reason I would fear and tremble if I were in the shoes of one who would touch it.

Because this is a divine, a Holy Spirit anointed ministry. You're not touching. Kauflin Kuhlman.

You're touching the Holy Ghost.

You're touching the power of God. Don't touch Brother Shekarion. Don't touch Brother Shekarion. That's the man who's been sealed with the Holy Ghost and called a God. Hi Ralph, is that you? He's got a different hairdo.

Yeah, he's got a haircut. You said it, I didn't. Hi Ralph God loves you.

Don't touch Ralph Wilkerson. Don't you dare touch Rex Humbard. Don't you dare touch Oral Roberts. Don't you dare touch Billy Graham. These are men filled with the Holy Ghost. And a part of God's plan in these last days.

And it's just like that. I'm going to speak just very briefly. I want to read a scripture, though, that means so much. Everybody's talking about the hour, of course, in which we're living. The uncertainty of the future is on the lips of men and women everywhere.

I don't care where you go. West Coast, East Coast. I don't care where you are in the world. I don't know whether the man, whether he be a politician. Or just the business man. Or the man on the street.

I don't care who the person is. On his lips And in his mind is the uncertainty of the future. If you really want to know what the future holds. Then, my friend, turn to the Word of God. It's all in the Word.

Joel, Restoration, and the Prophetic Future

That little book of Joel, that precious little book. There are only three chapters, that's all. But in this precious little book of Joel We have the entire picture of this present age. The Holy Thing is there.

We're coming now to the time of the end of the Gentile. The Holy Spirit is about to leave. It's all there. And this is not an hour of revival. My friend, if you're still standing behind your pulpit and praying for revival.

Remember, it's outdated, it's outmoded. This is not an hour of a spiritual revival. This is an hour of great restoration. This is the church's greatest hour, believe me. The church never had a greater hour than the hour in which you and I are living.

Leaving this great convention, this great world convention. Going back to your country. Standing behind your pulpits again. Go back knowing that you belong to a body of believers That are not a defeated body.

When the church goes out, it's going out in great glory and great power.

This is a thrilling moment. Where are we?

In prophecy I will restore, and I'm giving you the word of God I will restore to you The years that the locusts have eaten The conker worm and the caterpillar And the palmer worm My great army, which I've sent among you And out of great restoration, but there's more than that.

And I read that 24th verse. And the floors shall be full of wheat And the baths shall overflow with wine and oil. I wish I could stand on the highest mountain peak And just proclaim it to every Christian today.

Of all people and all nations Rejoice! He has given us the promise Restore to you the years that have been taken away. When that great restoration comes The floors shall be full of wheat And the baths shall overflow with wine and oil.

Take a picture for just a second. For the unregenerated, this is a dark hour. I would lie to you if I were to stand here and tell you that the future is bright. For the unregenerated I would tell you an untruth knowing the Bible as we do.

And there isn't a theologian here in this place. But one will agree with me That so far as the future is concerned for the unregenerated It's dark. The politicians will never be able to change it, never.

The democrats, the republicans will never be able to change it. Remember something. This is absolute authority. You can stake your very life on the sayeth the Lord. If you do not hear anything else that I say in the next several minutes I want you to remember something.

You can stake your life on his. The other day in a great press conference in Las Vegas One of the reporters asked me a question and said Catherine, couldn't you believe that many of our university and our college students, our high school students Are really being soaked in a very religious way.

Through their experiences with dope. I told him very quickly. And I said, you know sir There is a difference between religion and Christianity. There never was a time when we had more religion than we have today.

There never was an hour when there was more religion. It seems as though every hour on the hour, every week There is a new cult springing up. We load it with religion constantly. But remember Religion is nothing more less than supposition, that's all.

It's purely man's supposition. Christianity my friend is true. And this is true. This world needs no defense. I stand before you, I do not stand before the world. I never have to stand before an audience.

And defend the word of God. The word of God needs no defense. It speaks for itself. The son of the living God, the very son, absolute deity and divinity Needs no defense. Spirit needs no defense. And I want to just say something in this moment.

The Holy Spirit, the Church, and the Charismatic Outpouring

To those of you who are new in this great charismatic movement. The Holy Spirit is a personality who has become very new to you. And you feel as though he's just a new personality on the scene. May the ecstasy of that wonderful experience Of being filled with the Holy Spirit is glorious, it's marvelous.

And it means you want to tell others. You want to give to another A part of this wonderful experience that remembers something. You do not have to defend the Holy Spirit. The Holy Ghost needs no defense.

And it's very beautiful regarding this mighty third person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit, he's about to leave in a very short time. But before Jesus went away He made provision for those of us who would be living during this time.

This time of turmoil This time of uncertainty. When we come to the church. For only you could realize The importance of this body of believers. And there's only one who can say my church. And that's the son of the living God.

This beautiful body of believers. This gift that God the Father gave To his son. Sometimes I think we take it so lightly. You wonder why this great coming out. Among the Catholics, the Protestants. They're coming out, the non-believers.

They're coming out from every nation, something is happening. Something is happening. I pray that before this great convention is over with. You'll come to the full revelation that something is happening.

Something glorious is happening. And all the forces of hell will not be able to stop it. I don't care what your theology may be. I want to go on record as saying to you Forces of hell will not stop this great outpouring of the Holy Ghost In this great charismatic movement.

But in my sense you're not going to stop it. You're not going to stop it. Your doubts will never stop it. Will never stop it. It's bigger than man. It's bigger than man's theology. So often I think we try to bring God down to man's level.

You can't do it. You can't do it, you can't do it, you cannot do it. Where are we now? I'll tell you exactly where we are. We're the place where the world is standing on the threshold Of the greatest suffering it has ever known.

The Bible speaks of it as not only troubles but tribulation. Tribulation the world has never known, no generation has ever known. The suffering, the tribulation that's just in the future. So much so that even in wrath he remembers with mercy.

And the days shall be shortened. Remember the wrath of God is as perfect as his love. I stand here hour after hour and talk about the love of God. But I still remember that his wrath is just as perfect as his love.

Know that Sin has got to be reckoned with. Know that. And we're standing on the threshold of something now. That is literally prophecy. Being fulfilled. And it's happening so quickly. We can have the great catching up Before the final benediction of this great world convention.

It's happening that quickly. Nations or as men on a chess board. This is the hour when God has described it as having hooks in the jaws of the nation. There's no greater, really great world ruler on the scene.

But if you want to know how the nations are going to shape up For that last and grand and fatal battle All you have to do is to read the 38th chapter of the book of the revelation. It's all there. It is no secret.

If something you reported went a real scoop. Start reading the Bible. It's there. The whole thing is there. And this generation shall not pass away Until all these things be fulfilled. I'm not a seer, I'm not a prophet.

I'm a prophetess. But I believe the word of God. And I stake my very life on it. It's dark out there. The only restraining force that's left in the world today for good Is the power of the Holy Spirit.

That's the only restraining power there is. I don't want to be here 1 -5 minutes after the Holy Spirit has been taken out. I tell you my brethren I wouldn't want to be here 1 -5 minutes after the Holy Ghost has been taken out.

He is the only restraining force in this world today. All the forces of hell are let loose. And think what it's going to be like when the Holy Spirit is taken out. To tell you that it's easy living these days.

I will tell you an untruth. But I'll also tell you that God has made provision For every one of his children. You and I do not have to go down in defeat for one split second. He's made provision. This wonderful third person of Trinity who knows the Holy Spirit better than Jesus.

When he staked everything that he had. Do you fully realize that Jesus staked everything that he had on the Holy Spirit. When Jesus Christ came to this earth in the form of flesh He staked everything on this mighty third person of Trinity.

I mean everything. Because he knew he would be as much man as though he were not God. He knew he would stand face to face with temptation. He knew the hour would come when he'd stand face to face with the evil one.

The devil. And I believe in a little devil. I believe in a little Satan. Alone. If he could not have yielded to temptation Then those temptations would have been a farce. He left the Mount of Olives and he went back again to heaven from whence he came.

Please turn the tape over. Thank you. Going back in great power and great victory. Knowing of this wonderful gift that the Father had given him. Remember something. You and I, the church, were the gift that the Father gave his Son.

The Holy Spirit will only make this real to your heart. It will do something to you. That nothing in the whole world spiritually will do to you. Sitting there born again. Being able to say, My Heavenly Father.

Whether you're Catholic or Protestant. Whether you're Jew or Gentile. Remember if you've been born into this body of believers. You're a part of a gift. And love is something that you do. The church was the gift that God the Father gave his Son.

For Jesus referred to us as These that thou hast given unto me My brethren. You are a part of that wonderful gift. I am a part of that wonderful gift. And he knew what the future would hold for us. For I pray not That thou shouldest take them out of the world.

But he After we've had this wonderful experience of regeneration. If in that moment he would just take us and lift us Out of this world And take us home to glory It would have been so much easier for all of us.

But that wasn't a part of his plan. I pray not, Father God That thou shouldest take them out of the world. But that thou shouldest keep them from the evil ones. Keep them, they're mine. You've given them to me.

They're my bride. A thing that he did, he made permission. That you and I should not be defeated on a single score. If you're a part of this great body of believers. You do not have to go down in defeat for one split second.

You do not have to go down in defeat for one split second. Sons of God and joint heirs with Christ Jesus In this great auditorium. Greater is he that is within us Than he that is in the world. Wonderful.

Receiving Power and Walking in the Spirit

The greatest gift that Jesus could have given you And could have given me. Is more to those words. There is in the minutes of the gospel What has preached his sermon. The words of Jesus when he said You shall receive power after that.

The Holy Ghost has come upon you. But there's more. There's more to us than many of us have recognized. Do you know what it's like to be led of the Holy Spirit. Oh sure, you sit in a great auditorium.

And you see the manifestation of the Holy Spirit In the healing of sick bodies. And we're awed by that which our eyes can see. I too am thrilled every time I see the manifestation of the Holy Spirit In the healing of a sick body.

But there's more. There's more to those words that Jesus spoke. Manifestations as we see them With our eyes. Do you know what it's like To be led of the Holy Spirit. And if you're led of the Holy Spirit It means that you follow.

He gives you the victory Over temptations and over sins. He gives you the victory Over the evil one. And you do what you cannot do. He gives you strength That you don't have it yourself. Life. To be given a divine strength That you do not have in any man.

That the natural man The natural woman Would break under it. Do you know what I'm talking about. That all that is his is yours. And you draw on him for your strength. You look up at the little child and say I can't do it in the natural.

You can't do it in the natural. All that I know is that I'm following you. I'm following Sometimes almost blindly. And he shall receive power. After that the Holy Ghost has come upon you. And there's an experience in him When he gives you the strength That no man can give.

Do you know what it means. Wonderful fellowship of the Holy Spirit. Paul knew it and he knew it well When he talked about the mercy and the compassion of the Lord Jesus Christ. And then he talked about the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

You're following him When you've taken up your cross. Every man is his. We talk about the cross in Jesus. That was his cross. His cross is not my cross. If any man will follow me. If any man will come after me Let him take up his cross.

It was his cross. The last thing that he did Before he went to his cross. He looked up and said Nevertheless Not to my will but thine be done. Do you really know what it means. Oh I know there's that great ecstasy Of being filled with the Holy Spirit.

I know We're in a great charismatic world convention here today. You'll have great moments of ecstasy. And there'll never be a greater experience of emotion in your life Than when you receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

That's marvelous my friend. Do you know the experience Of having yielded to your will Yielding to the will of the Father. Not some of self in some of you. But none of self in all of you. It's a lonely life.

Thousands of people around about you They're there on every hand. The multitude is there. My friend if you're going to follow him All the way After the great emotion Dies away. It's a lonely life my friend.

It's the most thrilling thing in the world to know That you've given your life on that. And in so doing there's that wonderful fellowship of the Holy Spirit. There's a fellowship. You say to me have you ever seen the Holy Spirit.

You speak so much regarding the Holy Spirit. Have you ever seen the Holy Spirit. I've never seen God. And yet he's my heavenly Father. I was never more sure of anything in my life than the fact that He's my heavenly Father.

Have you ever seen Jesus. I would almost have to hesitate before I answer that question. Because he's so real to me. But he's real to me. More real than any person I've ever seen. I've seen the Holy Spirit.

But there's no human being as real to me as this mighty third person. I wouldn't want to live If I felt I had grieved the amount of my heart and my life. There's no son whose mind might be strengthened.

Jesus for having made provision for your church Before you went away In moments of dispensation. In this glory. The enemy is so strong on every hand. For having made provision for your own Jesus divine wisdom.

Jesus who guides us For defense. I have not seen the Holy Spirit. But neither have I seen the wind. You may call me a fool for my faith. You may call me a fool for my belief in an unseen personality. But remember.

No man hath seen the wind. Each of us is conscious of the wind. We see the result of the wind. We see the result of the force of the mighty wind. I too see the force of the mighty wind. But even more than that I feel that glorious anointing of the Holy Ghost.

That provision that he has made for every one of his children. When he'll take the most ordinary. He doesn't ask for golden vessels. He doesn't ask for silver vessels. He asks for yielded vessels. And he'll take the most ordinary person.

I don't tell who that one might be. Illiterate to the point where you may not be able to read or write. He'll give you a divine insight into the spiritual. That the wisest man. Without the great spiritual revelation.

Has no idea of what. Wisdom. Beyond the wisdom of man. Against all the forces of hell. Strengthen giants. Not to make all of their own strength. Drawing on unseen resources. I haven't been speaking to you about something that's imaginary.

I've been speaking to you about something. That's the most real thing that can happen to any individual. The church, all right, where are we now? He's getting ready to wind things up. I believe the days are numbered.

Those who are spiritual agree with me. The days are numbered. War in the Middle East is absolutely inevitable. The stage is all set. The word of God this hour is more up to date than tomorrow morning's newspaper.

Mercy, Healing, and the Great Restoration

Where are we now? The last member of the bride is being taken in. We're living in an hour of great mercy. Wonderful mercy. I haven't preached a sermon on faith for so long. It's been so long since I preached a sermon on faith.

But when I see the great manifestation of God's power in many of these services I see folk who in the nature do not have but one little faith. And yet they're beautifully healed by the power of God. It's an hour of great mercy.

Things are happening that could not have happened before, believe me. It could not have happened 15 years ago. It could not have happened 10 years ago. I could not have gone to Ottawa, Canada even 5 years ago.

And stood on that stage in that stadium before 22 ,000 people. With members of the parliament there. With literally scores and scores of Catholic priests there. With a choir of 1 ,200 filled with Catholic sisters.

I remember the time well. In Pittsburgh, Jim Murray came in one Monday morning. A member of St. Barnabas Church. And he said, I have something to say to you. He said, Father so-and-so kept me out for Mass this morning.

And he said, Jim, and I was on Jim's radio station, KQV. And the Father said to Jim, who in the world is Katherine Kuhlman. We've had more people in a confessional mood the past 3 months. Confessing that they went to see Katherine Kuhlman, who is.

What is happening now could not have happened. Canadians couldn't speak French and they couldn't speak English. And yet they've been marvelously healed by the power of God. I watched those thousands 2 weeks ago Sunday I said, speak in your own language.

They spoke in their own native tongue. What they said I'm not sure, but one thing I know. The Holy Spirit speaks the universal language. I'd learned that a long time ago. Glorious, great, coming out. I want you to know that Pope Paul Could have fit in very well with this great worldwide convention.

Of the full gospel businessmen. He would have understood everything that was happening. He would have understood. This is a part of God's great plan. These miracles of healing, I have nothing to do with them.

Absolutely nothing to do with these great miracles. And these miracles of healing are not psychic miracles. Know that. I want to go on record this afternoon. I want you to know that these miracles of healing Are not psychic miracles.

It's not a matter of mind or a matter. This is the old fashioned power of God. Remember. The great ball of grain and oil. To you the years the locals have eaten. The canker worm, the caterpillar and the palmer worm.

My great army which I send unto you. I have never wanted to live so much in my life. I tell you the truth. The second I want to tell you the truth. Let me just bare my soul. Through the years 10 years, just last Sunday morning.

A woman came up to me. In the airport. She said, you're Catherine Kuhlman. I said, yes. Oh, she said, I remember you so well. She said, we watch your telecast now. Melba, Idaho. My word, Melba. It probably has a population of 125 people.

That's one of the places where I first started out in Melba. She said, I was only not more than 14. She said I said, oh that's alright, I was only 16. I said, you remember the house where I stayed. Oh sure, she named the people.