Water Baptism — G.W. North

Water Baptism as a Biblical Subject

If we're going to tonight, though I was quite disposed to sit there and enjoy the presence of the Lord, I want tonight to talk to you about baptism. I usually, when I speak or mention the word baptism, I usually speak about what I believe to be the one baptism in the scriptures.

But I felt that God would have me talk to you about actual water baptism. Now I'm not doing this in any sense because I'm hinting that anybody in this room should be baptized in water. That's not my hope.

I like to say with the Apostle Paul that God didn't send me to baptize but to preach the gospel. And I want that to be very clear. And you may think it's strange that I should choose such a subject. Why at this time?

Well, I'll tell you. It's because that although, say, maybe say ten years ago, there was a sort of a great issue moving through the country on water baptism. And I didn't get at all involved in it. And so on and so on and so on.

I don't particularly want to raise that point. But it came up to me again this time while I've been moving about the country and I've been away for about six weeks. And in several places it came up this subject of water baptism.

And because it's been raised so sharply and constantly, I want to take it here tonight as a subject. And I haven't sort of gone forth as a protagonist of the old against the new. Or anything like that.

But I feel that sometime or another these things had better be said and said quite openly. I have preferred not to enter into the lists on the subject, wanting rather to talk about the Lord. I want the Lord to sharply remind us in these days of something that he once told an old friend of mine.

That is, a friend of long ago. He's still a friend, but I wasn't meaning that he's 90 or something like that. I remember that he once moved. He was a communist actually. And God met him and gave him a very real experience of himself.

And he moved in circles where there was a very, very strong emphasis on the church. And so having an able mind and being a great student, he got down to the Bible and he got all the knowledge he could about the church.

And he preached the church until one day the Lord said to him, stop preaching the church and preach me. So then he stopped. Would God that something like that had been said in these days. That we might understand that our theme of ministry is not the church, but the Christ.

Although we do have at times to make reference to these things. It's becoming madder and madder in these days in which we live. God save us from it. I was refreshed to receive a letter from a friend of mine in Canada.

I've written back to him today to say that you'd like him to come and preach to you. And I've offered him the 27th of September. I hope it's in the name of the elders of the church here. He's been before, some of you will remember him.

But in his letter he said he's sick to death in these days of everything that's going on. He said they're all having a way, the praise way or the way of submission. All these are in quotes. Or the way of discipleship.

He said they seem to have forgotten that there is a way in the scripture. Called the way of holiness and Jesus Christ. They seem to have forgotten it. Chasing after all other sorts of things. Now may God then keep us balanced and keep us from going off down these sidelines.

Ultimately they will be found to be a cul-de-sac. And I wish at the threshold of every one of them there was one of these signs up. The letter T with a blue bottom and a red top. Cul-de-sac. And then that would save them the trouble of backing out.

Especially if the road's narrow. Or turning round and coming out and looking at least respectable when they do come out. But so the Lord keep us right on this great subject of baptism. I think then we'll spend an hour or so on the subject here tonight.

And because I said at the beginning of the meeting that I'm not speaking. Because I feel that I ought to lay upon some unknown person to me as yet. In the room who isn't baptized in water. I want to say this that because that's not my aim.

I nevertheless want you to know if God does speak to your heart. Then you should get on with it. And arrangements can also always be made. We'll read I think this is much too much of a draft. I can see people putting on coats and things like that.

The Great Commission and the Resurrection of Christ

Shall we read the famous chapter in Matthew 28. You will notice that the chapter begins in verse 1. In the end of the Sabbath as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week. And so you see we're in the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.

And it says here that in verse 16. The 11 disciples went away into Galilee. Into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him they worshipped him. But some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them saying.

All authority actually is the word there. All authority is given unto me in heaven and earth. Go ye therefore and teach all nations. Or make disciples of all nations. Baptizing them in the name of the Father.

And of the Son. And of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things. Whatsoever I have commanded you. And lo I am with you all way. Even unto the end of the age. Amen. And so it seems that unto the end of the age.

From this great statement of the Lord. People are to go. Because Jesus Christ has all authority. In heaven and earth. And he's not going himself. As he would have gone. Had he been a man still on the earth today.

I have all authority he said. You're to go into all the earth. Praise the Lord for that. Taking Christ as your authority. And not these jumped up men. That want to say you can't go here or can't go there.

And pull curtains down. Of all kinds of materials all over the earth. He said you're to go. I have all the authority. Not them. There's always a higher authority. Under which the children of God live and move.

And this is the thing for us to understand very clearly. And this is why in the end we dare break. The rules of men that are wrong. That would prevent us going anywhere to preach the gospel. Because we move under a higher authority.

And that beloved is our sufficient ground. I hope you understand that. And have taken that deeply into your heart. And doing this we're to baptize. And into the name. And I want you to see that. That word in there is into.

Baptizing them into. The name of the Father. And of the Son. And of the Holy Ghost. Now you know that this is a completely. An entirely new thing. For these men. I hope you've grasped this very fully.

John’s Baptism and Jesus’ Anointing

It wasn't that these men to whom he was speaking. Hadn't baptized in water before. They had. We can go into John's gospel. And find this. In the gospel according to John. You know that John himself. Baptized the Lord Jesus Christ in water.

Not in the spirit of course. But in water. And God anointed him. With the Holy Ghost. At the time John baptized him in water. Don't get them mixed up. Jesus was not baptized in the Holy Ghost at Jordan.

He was anointed with the Holy Spirit. An entirely different thing. He didn't need to be baptized in the Holy Ghost. Because he had no sin. The baptism in the Holy Ghost deals with sin. All right. I hope you've got that clear.

The baptism in the Holy Spirit deals with sin. Not. You may get power. Though I wonder where it is. When people say they have it. I say well where is this power you speak of. I think that's a fair question.

Don't you? The anointing. Of the Lord. Came on the precious Christ of God. For the ministry. That he had before him. The baptism in the Holy Spirit deals with sin. Self. Everything that's anti. It's the burning fiery thing that deals with sin.

And the old man. And real self. The anointing of the Spirit has to come on you after that. But Jesus was not an old man. He was the last Adam. And he dealt absolutely with sin. And what a tremendous thing it was.

And remember that God dealt with sin. So far as its transmission was concerned. In the birth of Jesus Christ. In that Jesus Christ never inherited the old sin nature. That's why the Holy Ghost covered him in his mother's womb.

To cut off any kind of fear or thought. That sin should be transmitted to him. Praise God for this. The very highest power had to come on Mary for that. And it was very wonderful. The power to deal with things that lie in seeds.

Heredity for instance. Had to come on Mary. For this. And it was a wonderful glorious thing. That the Lord did then. We know finally at the cross he dealt with it for us. But as for himself. It was dealt with at his birth.

Now that's a tremendous thing for us to understand. And so you will not see the vast difference between the baptism in the Spirit and the birth. At that break. But never mind. The whole tremendous truth lies here.

Water Baptism in John 3 and John 4

That when he was baptized of John in Jordan. He moved out into his ministry. And moving out into his ministry. It wasn't long before people started to lead John Baptist. And follow Jesus. And when you get into the third chapter.

You can read this. In verse 22. After these things came Jesus and his disciples. Into the land of Judea. And there he tarried with them. And baptized. And John was baptized. So you got Jesus baptizing.

And John baptizing. Now when you get to chapter 4. The Lord hands over water baptism to his apostles. When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard. That Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

Though Jesus himself baptized not but his disciples. There it is. He handed over immediately. He handed over water baptism to these disciples. That followed him. And they baptized in Jesus name. That is instead of him doing the baptizing.

They did it. And this is where the origin of the whole thing came from. They baptized in Jesus name. That is in his stead. Alright. Very simple. Very plain. But when he rose from the dead. He gives them a new commission.

The Trinitarian Baptismal Commission

They never baptized in this name before. And we come to Matthew then where we were. And we read this wonderful new truth. Glory be to God. I am so glad. That God has caused it to be written into the scriptures of truth.

And these men who up until this time. Had been baptizing in Jesus name only. Received a new charge from him. Go ye therefore. Verse 19. And teach all nations. Or make disciples of all nations. Now they have been making disciples by baptizing people in Jesus name.

That is how they have done it. In his place. Now he says you are to make disciples in a new name. This is the tremendous thing for us to understand. Baptizing them into the name of the Father. And of the Son.

And of the Holy Ghost. This was their new commission. And glory be to God. Now. If grammar means anything. Please keep your eye on the verse. We are not going to have a grammar lesson. But we have got to get down to what the scripture is really saying.

He says you are to baptize them into the name of the Father. And into the name of the Son. And into the name of the Holy Ghost. That is what he is saying. If grammar means anything. Which it does. Praise God.

Into the name of the Father. If he said into the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. That would have been different. But notice the construction. Now this is the way we are inclined to think. We are inclined to think and this is what people do think.

He said baptize them into the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Well he didn't. He said baptize them into the name of the Father. And of the Son. And of the Holy Ghost. That is what he said. Praise God.

He said this. That was a marvellous thing. That he did say. We will come back to that later. I would like you to turn over with me into the Acts of the Apostles. When we get into the Acts of the Apostles.

Peter’s Pentecost Sermon and Baptism as a Response of Faith

We know what happened on the great day of Pentecost. Chapter 2. It is a real Bible study tonight, isn't it? It is good to hear the pages going over. And in Acts chapter 2. After the marvellous baptism in the Holy Spirit.

Which is really what it is all about. We find this. That Peter is preaching. And as he preaches great results come. And in verse 37. Those that heard what he had to say. That God had made that same Jesus.

Verse 36. Whom ye have crucified. Both Lord and Christ. When they heard this. They were pricked in their heart. And said unto Peter. And to the rest of the Apostles. Men and brethren. What shall we do?

And Peter said unto them. Repent. And be baptised. Every one of you. In the name of Jesus Christ. For the remission of sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Isn't it a marvellous thing here.

How that baptism. Is almost equated with faith. He doesn't say repent and believe. He says repent and be baptised. In other words. In the early church. They expected. The response to the preaching of the gospel.

To be an unequivocal. Coming to the fact that I'm going to be baptised. I'm going to be baptised. That's what they said. That was the expression of their faith. Now I know that in these days. That's degenerated.

I know that faith often isn't. Baptism isn't often an expression of faith. It's just done. Because it's done. But in the early church. Where it would probably have cost them their lives. To be baptised.

It meant something. And they repented. And he said now be baptised. In the name of Jesus Christ. For the remission of your sins. And you'll receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. And in verse 41. They that gladly received his word.

Were baptised. And the same day. There were added unto them. About 3 ,000 souls. Added unto whom? What of people who had been baptised. And who had received the gift of the Holy Ghost. To this company were added 3 ,000 more like them.

You know of course that it's quite impossible. To join the church. Nobody can join the church. The Lord adds to the church. You can't join it. I wish that had sunk into everybody's heart. Is it clear to you?

If you try to join a church. Mind you, you can join a denomination. And some denominations you can join them. Just by getting baptised. You can join that. But you can't join the church. Hallelujah. You're not added to the church.

Unless in baptism. It is a declaration of your heart. Faith in Jesus Christ. Unto the reception of the Holy Ghost. Amen. Have you got that clear? This is what the Bible seems to be shouting to me. And it's what the Bible shouts to me.

I like to shout out to other people. So that I get this clear. Now the word used in here. It's important for us to know this. In verse 38. Is really the word on. Be baptised. Every one of you. On the name of Jesus Christ.

Upon. What does it mean by that? Why? This means. This is our ground for it. The baptism. I'm standing on it. Glory be to the name of the Lord. Amen. Our ground for administering baptism. Is Jesus Christ.

Glory. But it's not only for administering baptism. Beloved. It's for declaring the whole glorious truth. Without which baptism is an empty mockery. A shard. An outward show. Meaning nothing at all. Say that we've dropped into religious practice.

An ideology. The great thing. About it. Peter says. Now. We are standing. On. Jesus Christ. Here is our ground. God has made him. Both Lord and Christ. Before when they baptised. In. Jesus name. Jesus was standing there.

Everybody could see Jesus. And they responded to Jesus. Or if they went out say. Evangelising throughout the land of Palestine. As it was known then. Or Canaan or whatever you will. They knew that Jesus was alive somewhere on the earth anyway.

And these people went out in Jesus name. And they did just that work. As the people were healed. As demons were cast out of them. As peace came to people's homes. As forgiveness was administered. All over the place.

These men. Would baptise. In the name of the. Absent Lord. He was away behind them. But he was still on the earth. Now. He has ascended to heaven. He cannot be seen. He's been made Lord and Christ. He has given his word.

In his command. He said you are to go into all the world. And preach this gospel. Glory be to God. I was talking with someone last night about this. Or at least someone was attacking me about it. About this business of missionary and one thing and another.

And was. Didn't believe much about it. And I said I only regretted that I was quite old before I'd gone. Into the rest of the world to preach the gospel. To people. And. I don't know what you feel about this.

But the Lord's authority is over everything. And he's given the command. And he says we're to go. And nobody should want much more than that. If they really love the Lord. And. Just command. Baptize them he says in my name.

He's our ground for it all. Praise the name of the Lord. And you know really before. Before the eyes of men and women. It's only if you and I are filled with the Holy Ghost. And really are a member of Jesus Christ.

That we can produce any grounds for baptizing people. In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. Really isn't it. If not we're just sort of promoting a church. But we're not to promote a church.

We're to extol and set forth Jesus. He'll see to the building of the church. Do you believe that? I believe that with all my heart. I trust I do till my dying day or my translation. Whichever it be. The Lord adds to the church.

Praise the name of the Lord. He doesn't add. Just add to the number of people saved. He adds the saved ones to the church. This is what it says. In the last verse of the chapter. The Lord added to the church daily.

Such as were being saved. What a glorious thing this is then. We have a tremendous commission. As we go out into the world. To preach this glorious gospel. And Peter was moving in tremendous truth. And you will remember.

Cornelius, the Holy Spirit, and the Timing of Baptism

In the Acts chapter 10. When he went to the Caesarean household. Whilst Peter's still preaching. In verse 44. The Holy Ghost fell on all them that heard the word. Amen. That's tremendous isn't it. Hallelujah.

God's really improving isn't it. It's really improving isn't it. See Peter preached on the day of Pentecost. And had to wait till they were baptised. Before they got the Holy Ghost. Alright. But now whilst he's preaching the Holy Ghost.

It's falling on the people. Now this is a tremendous thing. They were receiving the Holy Ghost. Before he could come out with his little party piece. That he'd spoken. In Acts chapter 2. Amen. Mind you this upsets all the people.

Who have got their schemes of doctrine. He fell on them. Like that. It was a marvellous thing that happened. I believe this is God's will and intention for us. In this day beloved. I believe it with all my heart.

I really do. I believe it's entirely erroneous. For us to expect people to get baptised. And wait 10 years. Before they receive the Spirit. Entirely erroneous. Or even 10 weeks. Now this is God setting forth a pattern.

Though we don't want to get too rigid and Bible bound. But at least we can see the way his heart is moving. And these people have received the Holy Spirit. And they heard them speak. Verse 46. With tongues they magnified God.

Then answered Peter. Can any man forbid water? That these should not be baptised. Which have received the Holy Ghost. As well as we. And he commanded them to be baptised. In the name of the Lord. The word is not into.

It's in. He commanded them to be baptised. In the name of the Lord. He commanded them to be baptised. It is not the word into. Here. What a tremendous thing for us to see. In other words. He was just saying.

No I am just talking to you as though the Lord Jesus is talking to you. Be baptised. He commanded them to be baptised. He never said. Now let's sit down and talk about this. He just said. Now you are to be baptised.

Jesus says so. The Lord says so. God hath made this same Jesus. That you have crucified. Both Lord. And Christ. It is inconceivable. The people who say. They have been saved by him. Should want to argue with him.

He is not Lord. If they want to argue with him. I wonder if we see beloved. This Lordship of Jesus Christ. Do we see it? Is he your Lord? Is he your Lord? Now if he is your Lord. That means you have accepted a position.

And a relationship. It doesn't mean to say. Well now you just speak. And I will do what you say. It means that you have accepted. This wonderful relationship. Well have you? Or is it a struggle for you.

To accept the truth. That Jesus Christ is Lord. Is it a struggle? Well now if it is a struggle. And you have great struggles. And arguments. And ups and downs. And in and outs. In your mind about it. Then what you are really needing.

Is to come to the place. Where you die out of it. Where you don't have any arguments anymore. Where he really is your Lord. See. I mean I suppose you have been brought up. To pray this prayer. Give us this day our daily bread.

Have you been? Brought up to pray that prayer? Well you know. You could have been a good Israelite by that. Because that is what they used to. Fast. First pray. Almost. Then they got used to it. They got used to his Lordship.

When his God hit. You see when they wanted their bread. They called it manna. Oh when are we going to get our bread today? So one morning they woke up. And found it all round them on the wilderness. So they had to go out and gather it.

When they went to bed that night. Oh Lord. Give us our bread. You know when they woke up. Give us our bread again today. It was very real. But they got used to his Lordship. And then they stopped asking him for it.

That's Israel. They thanked him for it. They found that God's promises and commitments. Went far beyond the limitations of their little minds. He is faithful. Or let's go further back still. Do you remember this wonderful story.

Joseph’s Lordship and Obedience to God

In Genesis. How that Joseph. Sold down into Egypt. First of all. For those. That the price of a slave. Ascended by God's grace. To be second in command. Under Pharaoh. And how. He was there to supply bread.

The old corn of the land. Of Egypt. Alright. Joseph always gives the old corn of the land. Like Joshua. And he supplied the old corn. Of the land. To the people. But when they'd run through a long period.

Of famine. And they'd sold this. They'd given all their money. To buy bread. In the end. Joseph said to them. Well now. You must give yourselves. You give yourselves to me. Give yourselves. And I will supply you.

With your bread. So they handed over their bread. Themselves. To the Lord. To Joseph. He was their Lord. And. He just moved them where he wanted. He says. Well now. You go there. You go there. You go there.

You go there. He shifted them about. Because. In these places. He could feed them more easily. Distribution of food. Was easy. That's why God does shift people about. He puts them there. So he can feed them nicely.

And properly. And that's what he does. You see. And. So. They used to say. Well give us today. Our daily bread. You see. And they were. But. They could only have it. Because. Jesus. Joseph was their Lord.

Their utter Lord. Then they got their daily bread. When they went where he said. And they accepted his position. It was a relationship. It wasn't something that. Joseph had to shout out at them. About every Sunday.

If they had a Sunday. If they called it Sunday. You see. Have you got this truth. Into your heart. Beloved. Have you. Is he your Lord. Then take the command. In Jesus name. Hallelujah. No argument about it.

He's my Lord. You only need to breathe. Lord. I'll catch the sound. Of the wind in your nostrils. In fact Lord. You only have to think. And I'll think your thoughts. After you. That's the ideal. He doesn't want to have to keep speaking.

By visions. Revelations. Prophecies. He wants to be able to think. And you respond. Do you believe there. That's right. That isn't to say. We can do without prophecies. These gifts are in the church. But this is what he wants.

For each one of us. So to come into a glorious. Relationship with himself. That he wills to do. In me. And he thinks. Through me. And he moves my being. In relationship to him. And that takes. All of the fantasy.

And the straining. And the fret. Out of Christian living. That brings us out of the grip. Of the. People that always want to be. Talking about. Charismatic. And brings us. Into. Life. Of God. This is what God wants.

In other words. This is going on. Into maturity. This. Is growing. Going in the way of the. Blessed Christ. Hallelujah. Well. We'll move on. Charlie. And Peter. He commands these people. In the name. Of Jesus.

The Early Church’s Practice of Baptism

To be baptized. He never asked them. Whether they wanted to be baptized. He only asked. All the people. That had some. Can we get any water. Yeah. Yeah. It's only water. All right. Yeah. So. Now you be baptized.

Just like that. He never asked them about it. The only thing he asked for. Was water. In other words. Beloved. You and I have to see. That this was. The. Whole. Method. Of progress. In the early church.

This is what they did. Amen. Now this is a. Very. Very. Glorious thing. For us to see. And. It's so. Wonderful. We could trace this. String through. In many scriptures. But I don't want to waste. Too much time.

On these things. I. Trust. That you. Were. So love your. Bibles. And want to get. Real truth. That you go. Right. Into it. Yourself. I want you. The rather. To come back. With me. Unto the. Great statement.

One Name: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost

In Matthew. And notice. That. What he said. Was this. That you are. To be baptized. In. The name. Notice it isn't. Names. In other words. The father. For this name. The son. Bears this name. The Holy Ghost.

Bears this name. The one name. Of all three persons. So that. It's the name. Of the father. And the name. Of the son. And it's the name. Of the Holy Ghost. Now. It's here often. Where. So much confusion.

Takes place. Do you believe. That Jesus. Is the name. Of the father. Do you believe. That's father's name. Well. I don't. Do you believe. That Jesus. Is the name. Of the Holy Ghost. I don't. Do I believe.

That Jesus. Is the name. Of the son. I do. I do. Then. How serious. Must it be. For people. To be exhorted. To renounce. A form of. Baptism. In the name. Of the father. And of the son. And of the Holy Ghost.

In order. To be baptized. In the name. Of only. Jesus. How serious. It is. Thank God. That he doesn't. Always. Impute. The seriousness. Of it. To us. It's rather. Like. What the apostle. Paul said. That he obtained.

Mercy. Because he did it. Ignorantly. In unbelief. Thank God. He hasn't brought. Upon us. The logical. Outcome. Of so many. Of things. The things. That we've done. If. He had. Where. Would we all. Have been.

What he does. Bring on us. Is the logical. Outcome. Of what Jesus. Has done. He does. Bring that. On us. It is a great. Mistake. Very beloved. To think. That because. It says. The name. Of the father.

And of the son. And of the Holy Ghost. That that name. Is Jesus. I mean. Strangely. Enough. I don't know. Whether you're aware. Of this or not. But my wife. And I. Both bear. The same name. But it's not.

Wally. For both of us. You see. It's north. For both of us. We have one name. We have one. Sir. Name. All right. And I had. Some daughters. They had. The same name too. So it was. Into the name. Of the father.

And into the name. Of the mother. If I may put it this way. And into the name. Of the child. Because we all bear. The same name. But we each. Have different. Four names. You may call them. Christian names.

If you want. I was far. From being a Christian. When I was named. I had no option. About my surname. Now this is the thing. That the Lord. Wants us to see. Now. I'm. I'm so thrilled. That Jesus. Was so.

Down to earth. When he said. The name. Of the father. And of the son. And of the Holy Ghost. For if he had said. The names. Plural. Of the father. My word. Where would. We have started. Let's go through some of them.

We've got to start it. In the beginning. Elohim. El. Aloha. Jah. Jehovah. Roshiq. El Shaddai. El. Ruh. My word. All these. You know. El. Elion. These are all. Names. For in the names. In the Bible. Are put. Constructions. Of. Ordinary. Forms of speech.

I mean. I might have a daughter. And call her Primrose. But. But you know. That's mainly. After a flower. But. When you. Get to. I wouldn't call her. Cauliflower. But I have heard. I have heard. Girls called. Collie.

Haven't you. But short for Colleen. I believe. But. That's Irish. They wouldn't do that in Ireland. But. Look at the Irish lady. At the back laughing. But you see. When God. Called. Named. Himself. Of. He. Put. Particles. Of. Speech. Together. He. Put. Words. Together. People. Knew.

Exactly. What he. Was talking. About. When. He. Called. Himself. For instance. El Shaddai. Or. El. Alien. El. Mean. God. And. Alien. Means. Most. High. It's just a common word. If you're talking about. Most. High. You'd say alien.

You see. All right. And. So. God. Just. Put. These. Words. Together. And. He. Then. He. Called. Himself. That. And. Did. It. To. Them. He. Said. Now. I. Am. God. Most. High. El. Alien. That. Became. A. Name. You. See. And. As. A. Matter. Of. Fact. I. Am. Most. High. Alien. Became. Of. Fact. I. God. High. That. Became. A. Matter. Am. But. We've. To. Know. What. God. Has. Deposited. With. Us. A. Man. And. If. God. Has. Said. Now. Into. The. Names. Of. The. Father. Well. I. Don't. Know. How. To. Names. Jesus. How about. Names. Of. Jesus. You. Now. It. Goes. To. All. The. Names. Of. Jesus. He. Is. A. Nut.

The Names and Titles of Christ

There's a lovely one. Let's read this one in Isaiah. I like this. You know this one don't you? In Isaiah, oh it says chapter 9 verse 6 unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder and his name shall be called wonderful.

Oh glory counsellor the mighty god the everlasting father the prince of peace. Oh that's good isn't it. Or perhaps we've got to baptize you into the name you see take these two of us and into a good shepherd and the vine and the bread of life well or the lamb you see.

Well how about the holy spirit. Well we haven't got so many names of the holy spirit made known to us. We've got the lovely one paraclete. One called alongside to help you see that's why he's called paraclete or comforter.

It's translated comforter in our bible it's just words. It's a phrase. One called alongside help. What a wonderful name. One called alongside help bless the name of the lord. But obviously this is impossible.

Then what name is it if it isn't the name jesus. And it isn't the names of jesus. If it isn't the names of the father. Or if it isn't the names of the holy spirit you say well you only taught us one name.

Well dove. For instance if jesus is the lamb he's the dove and so on. If it isn't any of these what name is it. What is the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost. Do they bear one common name.

Yes they do. They do. And this is the thing for us to understand. Actually we're told in matthew where we read baptizing them into the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost teaching them to observe all things whatsoever.