Featured Audio Sermon: Who's Touching the Ark? — Leonard Ravenhill

Uzzah and the Ark of God

2 Samuel 6 we read from verse 1 again. David gathered together all the chosen men of Israel 30 ,000 and David arose and went with all the people that were with him from Bailey of Judah to bring up from fence the ark of God whose name is called by the name of the Lord of hosts that dwelleth between the cherubims.

And they set the ark of God upon a new cart and Brought it out of the house of Abinadab that was in Gibeah. And Uther and oh and a high oh a high oh, that's not a state. That's the name of a man the son who's been about brave the new chart.

And they brought it out of the house of Abinadab which was at Gibeah accompanying the ark of God. And the high oh went before the ark and. And David and all the house of Israel played before the Lord Lord and all instrument none of instrument made a fur wood even on hearts and falterings on tendrils on comet and cymbals.

And when they came to make on the fleshing floor Who's our put forth his hand to the ark of God and took hold of it for the oxen took it? And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzziah and God smote him there for his error and There he died By the ark of God.

God’s Pattern for the Tabernacle

Let's look a minute here in the 25th chapter of Exodus. Exodus chapter 25. Remember the beginning of this chapter is where the Lord is selecting. He's going to Do what I think must have been very strange to Israel.

They had never had any covering in the sense of a tabernacle. They'd be known as are. They'd have no priests. They'd have the heavens for the ceiling of their church if you like. And now suddenly instead of being Enlarged they're contracted to a small space that that's called.

I've been called again a tabernacle in the wilderness. And God gives specific instructions for this amazing man Moses about the about the building. It's very interesting that he had no choice in this.

He obeyed every commandment God gave to him. He had no more choice in the colors of the thing any more than Noah had a choice of what kind of a rainbow he Wanted. Never wondered what kind of a rainbow he might have chosen if the Lord said you choose the colors.

It would have been a mess if it asked me. I wouldn't know the colors that he just did as he was commanded. And It says in verse 8 of the 25th chapter of Exodus. Let them make me a sanctuary that I may dwell among them according to all that I Show thee after the pattern of the tabernacle and the pattern I could and the pattern of all the instruments thereof.

Even so shall he make it. Okay come down to verse 17. I shall make a mercy feet of pure gold. Two cubits and a half should be the length thereof and a cubit and a half The breadth thereof. And I shall make two cherubins of gold.

A beaten work shall not make them in the two ends of the mercy feet. And make one cherub on one end and the other cherub on the other. Even of the mercy feet shall he make the cherubins on The two ends thereof and the cherubin shall stretch forth their wings on high.

Covering the mercy feet with their wings and their faces Shall look one to another towards the mercy feet. Shall the faces of the cherub cherubins be. And I shall put the mercy feet above upon the ark and in the ark I shall put the testimony that I shall give thee and there will I meet with thee.

The Ark as the Dwelling Place of God

Now that's the first piece of furniture mentioned. As we guard the tabernacle. It was roughly 54 inches long this ark. It was a three feet high and three feet wide and It was a visible presence of an invisible power.

It was a kind of a earthly resting place where God put his power between those awesome cherubins. You remember how often the fellow the the psalmist cries all thou that dwellest between the cherubins shine forth.

Psalm 80 particularly before Ephraim and Manasseh. Stir up thy strength and come and save us. If you talk about the ark usually people think you mean the ark where you know. The children play with at home they were little animals and they are they going to Noah's ark.

Well, that was an ark all right, how do you remember another ark beside that. Well, it was a little thing a woman made to put a baby in. She made an ark of bulrushes. And said do you have this ark? Now the ark actually the word really means that if you get right to the bottom of it.

It means a place to preserve something intact. It has complete coverage, you know I've said so often that faith does three things it reckons it risks and it rests. I Think the mother of Moses must have been that well.

She sure was a wonderful woman and she put that baby in that little ark and pushed it out onto the waters of the Nile. I think it's a horrible risk. Now did she know a crocodile wouldn't eat it before she had hardly turned her back.

Or the lid could have blown off and the sun might have scorched the baby crisp. Or it could have been carried away on the on the flood or somebody could have stolen it. But you see when you get a word from God, you're not going to be shaken by the Philistines or anybody else outside.

God had told her what to do and she obeyed. And again, that's the key. That's the anchorage of spiritual success. Spiritual maturity is obedient. So obey is better than sacrifice. Remember King Saul filled the whole of that that valley with beasts and yet he retained a few of the price stock and When Samuel came up to him and stopped him, he said well, I've done as you said and a little sheep gave the story away.

No. Wonderful what little animals have taken important parts in the Bible, isn't it? And Samuel said if you've done what you said you've done. What mean of this bleating of the sheep and The lowing of the oxen which I hear to obey is better than sacrifice.

There is no substitute for obedience. No not there not now not ever. Again, trust and obey. There's no other way. There's no other outlet. You either do as God says all right there be even to shrink you begin to wither.

Meeting God Rather Than Hearing About Him

Now here is the ark and The measurements are given to us. Verse 22 says there will I meet with thee and that was the supreme desire of God. It's a supreme desire of God today that when we come together we meet with him.

As I usually ask people when? Somewhere in a meeting. Did you come here or what did it. Did you come here tonight? To meet God or did he come to hear a sermon about him? I thought with somebody's day Internationally known figure who said you know, I'm realizing how little I know of God.

And I had offered somebody a sermon that there's the most profound thing. And this person said I don't I feel as I don't to preach anymore. I feel like how I felt when I when I have the the depth that this man has.

Talking about Jesus laying his glory by and being wrapped in our clay. Oh God pity us. We're so commercialized. We're so Regulated by circumstances we get up with the clock the clock runs our lives that we lose sight of eternity.

We lose sight of the wonder of God's salvation. And the key concern is about the whole of the building of it marvelous. If you want to kind of a private area that was to be roped off and and again when you think of all the linen That was put round and every thread billions of them were put in there by hand rather staggering isn't it and Then there's to be a place a holy place.

And then not only a holy place, but the Holy of Holies. And this heart was put not in the holy place it's put in the Holy of Holies and it has the chief place in the Holy of Holies and inside of it you have the the rod that budded and you you have a Sample of the manna that fell from heaven and it didn't get worms in it either and and there you have the tables of stone.

These this testimony of God has to be preserved. And the ark is is an abiding place. For God on earth that is he manifests himself there. Let's let's skip over a minute here. I am reading the first book of Samuel and Chapter 5 sorry we can't go through the whole thing.

This is a fantastic study. I'm going to do it myself, but I couldn't do it tonight because it will take up too much time, but if you want to find Am I Excuse me a minute account of this art and God's desire and the way it moved around you'd have to go to the first book go to the first book of Chronicles and chapters 12 to 16.

And you'll find a very marvelous account of the moving of that wonderful art. And then of course you'd have to read Psalm 68 and Psalm 101 which which also deal with him and start a different Psalm 24.

The Mercy Seat and Holy Things

He didn't live with some little bit of furniture that tucked away in a corner that has no meeting meaning. It's the abiding place if you like it's the seat. It's a dwelling place you have the ark and then on the on the top of the ark you you'll have a mercy seat.

The Salvation Army never used to talk about coming to the altar. They used to sing. I Remember right years ago 60 70 years ago when the army used to think come to the mercy seat fervently kneel. Here bring you wounded heart here tell your anguish earth has no sorrow that heaven cannot heal.

There's a mercy seat a blood-spinkled mercy seat. Somebody afterwards removed that lid and looked inside and because they did they they got into serious trouble. Now if you read those Psalms again 68 and 101 and Psalm 24 you'll find this thing goes immensely immensely interesting.

The Ark Among the Philistines

Okay, we're now in the first book of Samuel chapter 5. The Philistines took the ark of God and brought it from Ebenezer to Ashdod. When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon and set it by Dagon.

Now when they have Ashdod rose early in the morning behold Dagon and fall upon his face on the earth before the ark of God. And they took Dagon and set him on his place again, and they rose early in the morning and he was fallen on his face.

And his head and his hands had broken off. Now now you see here the peril of Toying or playing with holy things. There's a verse I didn't look up, but it talks about the iniquity of holy things now. That's that's something to really turn over isn't it.

How in the world can you have the iniquity of holy things? These people have captured the ark of God. They thought it would do them good instead. It did either they put it at the side of their God this monstrous God.

Dagon with with the upper part of his body was a man and The lower part of fish something like a mermaid you would say today. And there he stood in a temple where people worship him and as soon as they put the ark of God there without anybody doing a thing.

Big old Dagon fell down on his face, so they stood him up again, and they went in next morning. He was worse off. He not only fell down his hands was broken off his feet was broken off. Just because of God's presence being there.

Now now see what happened further in the chapter. When they rose early in the morning behold Dagon was fallen upon his face to the ground before the ark of the Lord. And the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands were cut off.

Upon the threshold only the stump of Dagon was left. Therefore neither the priests of Dagon nor any that came into the Dagon's house. Dare tread on the threshold of Dagon to this day you see just that one visitation that one movement of God terrified them.

So in a sense Dagon had to go after business verse 6 the hand of the Lord was heavy upon them of Ashdod and he destroyed them and smote them with emeralds and Ashdod and the coats thereof. And when a man of Ashdod saw that it was so they said the ark of God of Israel shall not abide with us.

For his hand is sought upon us and upon Dagon our God. Going to the end of the eighth verse and they carried the ark of God the God of Israel. And they carried the ark of the God of Israel out thither.

And it was so after they had carried it out that the hand of the Lord was against the city. Now here you are again. You see the peril what I want to emphasize two things going to emphasize the peril of having these Holy things.

I'm misusing them and yet the peril is Obviously the opposite to the to the power. Remember the children Israel one of a marvelous escapades they walk around the city seven times. What did they do. They carried the ark of God so then that was the very presence of God.

Can you imagine people on the walls looking down and say well who are these lunatics? I mean, what are they doing? They were not allowed to speak that must have been tough on some of them. They were not allowed to speak.

They walk around in silence they carried the ark. What have they got there? Is that a coffin? What is it? What's a casket? You see they were not allowed to mount it when Moses was sharing out some of the property of Israel.

He gave various things to various people, but the sons that I've forgotten his name. I found I think it was his sons were not allowed To have any cattle or any of the possessions they were separated to carrying the ark of God.

The Danger of Modernizing God’s Commands

Now the peril is this. And I think I think to me it comes home with great force. Well, let me go to the other scripture. Where did we read a bit earlier? I forgot my chapter 2nd Samuel. And the family chapter 6, okay.

2nd Samuel 6 and verse 6. When they came to Nacombe's threshing floor Yuzar put forth his hand To the ark of God and took hold of it and the oxen shook it and the anger of the Lord was kindled against it.

Why? Now they'd made a new cart for it. God said it never had to be on a cart. God said it had to have four gold rings one on each corner and put a staff through it and that men had to carry this thing.

So they made a new cart. You know the Jews then I don't know about today. They love new things. Remember what Samson said if you fasten me with seven new ropes. Then I should be like other men or then I should be weak like other men rather insulting to us, isn't it?

Remember later when Jesus died they put him in a new tomb. When Jesus wrote an ass he wrote one that nobody had broken in it was entirely new. They love new things. And these people thought they were doing God a favor by you know modernizing this thing.

I mean, why carry the thing on your shoulders anyhow? When oxen can do it. Now I don't know what happened to these oxen, you know. It says that when they came to the threshing floor of Yuzon, maybe they thought it was lunchtime.

You know, they could smell mmm after stuff we eat and mmm right now they're fetching some new wheat. Mmm, we should stay and have some and maybe the very action of the those those creatures that swayed the ox.

Now, isn't it? Isn't it really awesome? They didn't decide to paint it another color. Didn't decide to put a second deck on it. They didn't disfigure it in any way the men didn't go in front of it and start blaspheming.

The man somehow thought he do got it. Oh, look the ark is going to topple over. Oh, I'll hold it. So he once asked mr. Spurgeon if we would join a society for the defense of the Bible. And he said you don't usually walk before a lion with a sword.

Why do you need to defend the Bible. All this man did was put his hand up to stay the ark and immediately he was threatened. What do you think we're doing with the gospel today? Wrecking it up. Painting it up.

Somebody told me this week of a Christian group a rock band a Christian Christian rock band. I have anyhow. Whatever they are they go around and now they've got sequins on their coat. Well, why not Johnny Cash has them.

And all the other guys have them, I mean if the world can have them can't we glitter. I mean if there's no other glitter, we may as well stick it on the outside. It is not on the inside anyhow, and we try to study the ark of God.

We're trying to put some improvement on the ark of God. We've tried to do it. I said I think with a translation we make of the Word of God. We try and make sure those words just a little bit more easy.

Euphemisms and the Loss of Biblical Clarity

As I said to some preachers I preached with this week that that if we go back and maybe mentioned in here before if we go back To Bible language and and call thin what it really is. Instead of saying somebody if you say that girl's a whore you say no.

No, she's a call girl. Huh, you say about a dirty filthy sodomite. Oh, no. No, it's not a sodomite. He's just gay. There's nobody wicked. They're just weak. There's no iniquity, it's just infirmity. No backsliders anymore, that's a dirty word a lot of people out of fellowship, but Backsliders you don't use that word.

Oh. How smoothly. I remember reading a story of mr. Whitfield where he was particularly angry one day. I'd like to have heard Whitfield. I think it had been right up my alley. He got mighty furious about the possessions the devil had he was always running the church to pull down stronghold.

He was always seeing the enemy doing his evil work getting people to submit to him. And one day he said I'm going to shoot the arrows of God into your heart. And he said he mentioned an arrow and he pulled it the arrow back like this and the congregation ducks, you know.

And it was well, that's the way to preach if you can get them to do that. At least you've got them halfway down to the ground and that maybe when you get them halfway down it and push them the other half.

But the anger of the Lord was kindled against this man and not only smote him but killed him. Come on in God's name. What are we doing with the gospel today? Hmm. Is he getting more emasculated? Isn't it getting more?

Hollywood style. Don't you don't you miss the absence and the glory of God? Why they got this they got it. They got the very presence of God in fact, and that's all they are all we need. There's an old him that says God's presence and his very self and essence all divine.

I'll ask you again I've asked you before when did you last go out of the sanctuary picture because God would reveal his holiness and his majesty. We got very much as the same way. We came in go out. We say hey, I like your dress.

Someone like that in fears myself, which have you got it? Well, I like some other trivial thing that's got nothing to do with eternity and nothing to do with God. Notice in verse 5 now go back a minute here David and all the house of Israel played before the Lord and all instruments made of fur wood even half and salt risen.

Timber and coronets and on symbols now that there's his ecstasy now come down to verse 9. This same David was afraid of the Lord that day and he said how shall the ark of the Lord come to me? That's a big switch.

He's excited they have a band music everything that in a wave of the time and then suddenly God intervenes and suddenly his all-emotional life does a somersault. He realizes what an awful God he serves.

The Holy Presence Versus Religious Performance

What a God of majesty what a God of glory. One minute everybody's excited. The next minute will not be coming if they like going into the. That experience, you know when I'm the nice and Sapphira went to church.

That must have been a great morning. I would have enjoyed that. I think I Said well, Lord, why do you why do you stop with two hypocrites? I'm sure half the congregation if you'd have wiped them out at the same time.

It would have been more spectacular, but God doesn't do it that way. But I what I'm trying to say rough and Tumbled as it may be because I got such a hectic day today that the anger of God was kindled for a very simple thing.

He did not take a hammer and break the ark. He didn't say this old piece of furniture we can do it up. Do you know the ark is the only thing that was taken out of the original tabernacle and went into the temple of the Most High God.

Here afterwards in the book of the Revelation. It says that preserved the testimony of God in an ark. Now scholars will tell you that the ark was destroyed in the Second invasion and the burning of Babylon and what have you got there?

Maybe it was. And yet God's presence. Natural it matters. It isn't a case of having a wooden box here. What it's telling us is that God makes their place in habitation now as I said to somebody today.

This is awesome. This is breathtaking. When you say well, I'd like to go and I wish we had a box and you can say God's presence is there. He's there in his wholeness. He's there in his majesty's there in his glory.

Be careful how you handle this thing. Well, we don't need a box we don't need a presence right because it says you're the habitation of God. There's only so much of God's wholeness in this meeting as you and I fill with us the Holy Spirit of God the pure Spirit of God.

He doesn't dwell in temples where oh you can make him a thousand crystal palaces like they've done on the west coast. So what you can't sanctify a building in the New Testament sense. They didn't do that I Even Solomon said and I guess he built the most expensive building ever made man alive.

He used gold to walk on he used gold on the walls. He was the most extravagant building ever made. He used gold more easily than we used cement. And he built the altar and he had all the priests in total correct display there.

I knew when he made it into session to God. He says look I Put up this building. I've done everything according to your commandment. We've even got an altar. We even got a sacrifice on the altar. Now what's missing?

Nothing except the fire of God. What good is his house that I've built it if God's presence isn't there. What they're going to make in a showpiece and say we've got the best choir we've got the most brilliant preacher.

We've got this time so what? In God's name does it matter? Don't you think we're putting our hands on so many things these days? You've got to start this way and finish that way and do something else.

We're getting so mechanical. Since that when did the gospel need trimming up? I would have to go to a meeting this week. There's a five-piece band there. It was done B a n I Don't to do it. It would be the B. A. N. M. E. D. Danny.

Had a band the whole thing. Oh. How they swerve and jazz and what not they didn't do that too long after I really got going. The preacher said amen for 10 minutes, then he lost his all this pump. Was his energy and the tomorrow lost his voice.

Who Is Touching the Ark?

Who's touching the ark? David was afraid of the Lord. He hadn't been afraid before. It is incredible that this people that knew God in such an intimate way. This people have gone round the city without a gun.

The most despised people of all and they went round one day round another day round another day round another on the last day. They went round seven times. So 13 times they went round. That's pretty unlucky, isn't it?

And they kept down when they stood all the criticism of the people that were watching. And all they had to do on the last day was shout with a great shout. Why. Because God was there. And I don't see any fun in shouting and carrying on in a meeting.

Oh, you didn't clap your hands. That's okay. But mercy if that's all you have to do. They have to whip people up. You know, I thought my dear friend there Dale there. His father belong a tribe called the Quakers.

And I thought about when God says I want a tabernacle and there at the mercy seat. Will I meet with thee? God wants me to meet with him. It's more than me preaching for him. It's more than me being a mischief and he wants to meet with me.

He wants to reveal himself to me wants to talk to me wants to to come in and work in this being of mine. And then he called me from the border of Mexico today. And he said she was weeping and he said that God has called us here.

We're Hispanics. God has really blessed us with all we do want to be such great soul winners and she went on. I said my dear look. The first commandment is not that would be a soul winner. The first commandment is I should love the Lord by God with all my heart soul mind and strength.

There are lots of missionaries that don't love God. There are lots of missionaries should have returned to the from the field six months after they got there. They're doing a thing mechanically. And it's hard to enjoy that kind of burden when you're doing it mechanically.

But when they do it under the anointing of God when they do it with a lot of God. Can you imagine this procession stopping? Hmm. They'd hops and sultry's and tendrils and carnets and They're having a great time.

And suddenly death came. He wondered that David was angry afraid and he said how shall the ark of the Lord come unto me? Verse 12 it was told King David saying the Lord blessed the house of Obed-ed-edam and all that pertaineth unto him because of the ark of God so David went and Brought up there brought up the ark of God from the house of Obed-ed-edam.

Into the city of David with gladness and it was so that when they got there the ark of the Lord had gone six paces. He sacrificed oxen and fatlings and David danced before the Lord with all his might and he was good.

Now notice what he danced with. He danced with all his might. Doesn't say dance with a girl. He said he danced with all his might. He danced in the presence of God. There's nothing sensuous about it. He isn't linked up with some woman in his arms.

He's dancing in God's presence. God has turned his sorrow into joy. He started off in joy. There comes bereavement they come sorrow. They've disobeyed God. They've hurt God. They've transgressed against God.

Sensitivity to God’s Warnings

Do you ever wonder if you're getting insensitive to what God's trying to say to you? Hmm. Do you ever wonder when when a certain thing has happened somewhere in your nervousness? You put your hand up to steady the ark?

And somehow that sensitivity went and the compassion you had went and the concern you had went. Again, this man didn't take an axe and spit up the ark. He didn't say we've carried this thing long enough.

We need no no no no. All he did was try to study the ark of God. Oh Mercy are we're trying to study the ark of God these days. We want to do some new thing. We wouldn't we wouldn't we wouldn't just study it.

We paint it. We paint it. They put a musical box inside of it. We put the priest in some new garment. We try and make it more acceptable. You know, there's nothing nothing this generation needs more than a baptism an old-fashioned hellfire preaching.

I'm sure of that the power and the presence of God were resting on that tabernacle. And while they were obedient. They had success. Doesn't matter if you have to get us fitted out again the most ridiculous thing.

And they stood all the criticism and scorning and they'd on that final day when. Because they'd obeyed God the whole place came tumbling down. Well, let's not be too critical about them because you know, you and I again have more.

We've more transfer for than they have we've seen the mighty workings of God. I Don't know anybody that's pulling Jericho's down to you. Can you think about obligation that we have as a nation with all our Bibles all our broadcasts?

Well, I wish studying the Ark of God in the way of presenting the gospel these days. The gospel is still the power of God unto salvation. To all who believe and when I hear people I heard somebody say well, you know, there's a different approach today.

Is there is there really? You don't have a woman who's just lost her child. Well, these are modern days. You don't have to weep over it and groan over it. I mean they did that in the Bible days, but of course women were women then.

But nowadays doesn't matter all they've done is lost the child. If any difference between the grief of somebody who's heartbroken today than there was in the grief of somebody who lived 3 ,000 years ago.

We say human natures change human nature of non change. Human nature is been a sinful nature. Human nature still needs God. And I think there are times when God tries to stop the business, you know. When I think of again, they all they did was put his hand up to the ark.

He didn't curse God. He didn't take a hammer and smash it. He didn't say now you're all lunatics for going this way. This is too old-fashioned. Well, do you think that God maybe has been speaking? I mean notice how many tragedies we've had this winter.

One whole town swept away with a mudslide just like that people went into eternity. Mississippi has covered more area than ever. We came down past there just the other day. Acres hundreds of acres just just little bits of roofs standing up out of the water.

And all you can see it look like you could see for 50 miles just straight to the water. And some farms just standing on a little island. They'll never get any crops in there this year. There's sludge will be left behind.

They can't do with cattle it seems though God is trying to check it, but we won't take the checking we won't take the warning and Again I say to you the most distressing area. I believe is the area of the church itself.

Trusting God Rather Than Human Strength

We're trying to study the ark. We don't want God Almighty to govern the whole thing. We want a little bit of flesh in it one a little bit of humanism in it one a little bit organization in it. One some of our skill in it and God holds off.

Want to do it in the flesh? By the word of God said some trust in chariots and some trust in horses, but we will trust in the name of God alone. Oh I'm aching on the inside to see somebody that will really really really have no confidence in the flesh.

Don't try to organize. Is it a horrible one he turns such a dive. God's cause with a few dollars in a collection there and something else. Now either God is God or he isn't. As I've said before this book is either absolute or it's obsolete.

There's no middle course it either has all the answers or it has no answers. I've got to get to the place where I say Lord you can strip everything else away from me and on Christ the solid rock I stand all of the ground is sinking sound.

Revival, Prayer, and the Power of God

I'm not going to study the ark. I'm convinced God's going to do a new work. I thought the last two or three days with a brother I love very dearly and these are the crossroads in his life. And I know others who are men that you think are at the top of the tree.

You think they should be satisfied with what they've got and they're not they suddenly realizing there's a new dimension that God wants to bring to our generation a new revelation a new unfolding of the Word of God.

If you like men that don't try to study the out by Organization and saying you must do it this way you must do it that way most of it. They know listen to it. We're going to follow if it takes us we have to follow those loin oxen.

They look pretty scruffy thing but before long you remember that David he went and slew the oxen and and he took the Fattlings and he made a sacrifice to God and let me dance before God. Why? Because he got rid of many of his obstructions.

The Lord is very merciful you know merciful here. He's so merciful he'll strip us right down to the place around the thing to stand on we have the thing to lean on. We're cast in nakedness and we we say in despair you know the church that was rich and increased in good.

That's where the church is today. She's rich. She's increased in good. She's need of nothing. Which church was it. Jesus spewed out of his mouth. I Would I was either hot or cold. So then because I like neither hot or cold I was fit.

It didn't spew the cold one out of his mouth it never been in it was his church that he spewed out of his mouth. It wasn't a heathen religion. It was this church. They were neither hot or cold. They were kind of midstream.

And because they were neither one thing that he ever be vomited them out. Didn't vomit the cold church out. He didn't bother with it. God will not stand for mediocrity. I think I need to sit down in fact.

I've said to somebody today I'm going to do less preaching in the next few months as little as I can and I'm going to meditate on certain things. I'm not young anymore. I Getting older and older, but that doesn't mean you can't.

I mean Moses was 80 when he started man, but 80 years. So maybe when I'm 80 I'll wake up and start doing something. But there's a hunger that there's a the class we talked to the last part of the morning.