Does American Evangelicalism Understand the Importance Elders and Deacons?

Yeah, so in other words the your understanding and view of the pastor the elder and The deacon is a reflection on your understanding in your view of the church. Both locally and also the church globally.

Yeah, so so that's why it's so important that we really wanted to spend some time to have these conversations and to have this discussion because it is really really important and it is something that.

Do you think that pastors because I haven't heard a lot of sermons on this I've heard Podcasts on this which is why we wanted to kind of throw this in. There's a lot of books that are written on it. But do you think that maybe pastors almost feel a little odd preaching about the role and the qualifications?

Of a pastor to their church I can speak from experience and say yes, absolutely. Yeah, and you know the the weeks we spent on that as we as it regarded elders particularly. We're weeks of lots of conviction and prayer and you know, God make me more like this.

Am I enough like this? So yeah, it's not a comfortable thing to approach and to preach.

For sure. Yeah. Yeah, I can completely understand that. So do you see as you've done this kind of study and I know you're also kind of you know. Looking around at different churches. Would you say that?

American evangelicalism has a healthy or an unhealthy understanding of The the role the office of responsibility and the character of pastors and deacons. I.

Think there are many that probably have an unhealthy view. From experience and also just just looking around so as a part of preparation for this series. There are a number of websites that have church positions opening, you know.

Here's an opening and they describe what they're looking for and you look at what they're looking for and you look at first Timothy 3 And Titus 1 you think okay. Have y 'all read this? That's not all of them.

But there are some and a number of congregations will send out a survey to the body, you know. And say what do you think we should look for in our next pastor and it's telling about the understanding of the body.

Regarding what they're looking for and whether or not they have any understanding of this. So many of The responses that you see In these postings let you know that it makes you think that maybe what they're looking for is kind of a reaction to the last guy.

So maybe he didn't do this like they wanted and so they really want to make sure the next guy does and so maybe an overreaction without Bringing their thoughts before scripture first and saying what does God say about this?

Yeah, so we can talk about churches and that's really really general and I think really easy because it's very easy for a person for a Listener to say. Oh, yeah. I know that church I know the church that has you know, this job description and and you know, all this kind of sense, but how can I As an individual really bring my thoughts and to scripture and say, okay.

Do I have a proper understanding of the biblical mandate for biblical responsibilities of a pastor and owner or pastor and deacon.

Well, bring your expectations and your Desires for what that man would be to scripture and look at the passages that deal with that and see how well they line up. If they don't line up well, then. You know, you don't you don't have a healthy view and if they line up well, then great.