Popes and Trump and Webbon Oh My!

Well, greetings and welcome to The Dividing Line. Here we are on a Tuesday and no, it's a

Thursday. Yeah, we'll catch up here eventually. We were here on Tuesday, weren't we? Yes, we were. I do seem to recall something about that.

And the studio audience is completely out of control and that's always a problem.

Hi, dear. How you doing? Yeah, no, no, you have no... I don't... Hey, I don't have control.

Been married almost 44 years and I don't have control. So what do you want?

Anyway, yes, indeed. Got a lot of stuff to cover today.

Too much actually to get to, I think, as I'm looking at my bookmarks in X.

But all sorts of stuff that hopefully will be useful and helpful to us all.

Anyway, let's start with what we didn't get to comment on on Tuesday.

Over the weekend, the Donald Trump as Jesus meme dropped.

And I guess there was a history to that and it had appeared elsewhere and then they edited it and changed it.

And eventually Donald Trump posted it even though he admitted he posted it.

And then he later said he didn't post it. And the man just is incredibly dishonest.

And we know that of all politicians. I mean, to be a politician in the

West today is to be dishonest by definition. But you would have to be many fries short of a happy meal to accept the absurd explanations that he gave of this thing.

I was a doctor with the Red Cross and we're healing people and you seriously...

I'm sorry. Come on. Give me a break. There are actually people who believe that.

There are actually people who go, well, it's what he said. And you're just like, okay.

Look, I remember getting in all sorts of trouble during his first presidency.

And yes, the second election was stolen. There's no question about that. That's been documented numerous times now.

The enemy is in the gate. So the Democratic Party is anti -American. They're traitors, every single one of them.

So during that first presidency,

I remember listening to some speech or press thing he did.

And I sat right here and I said, the man's an egomaniac. He's a narcissist. It's hard to listen to him talking about himself.

It's ridiculous. And I still voted for him because the other option was the continuation of the mind -numb zombie reign.

Joe Biden had Alzheimer's before he was elected.

He was just a placeholder. We don't know who was running things at all during the course of that presidency.

And so Camilla Harris didn't have

Alzheimer's, but she has the IQ of what shoelace. And so she would have been just the exact same thing, just a placeholder, the public face, and who knows who would have been running stuff.

So there wasn't much of a choice there. I mean, the judgment on the nation is that we have no choices.

There are no righteous men or even semi -righteous men or women who are seemingly able to run for major public office.

So anyway, there's nothing new about recognizing narcissism and everything else.

But here's the issue. Yes, he has his finger on the nuclear button, and yes, there are lots of questions about the

Iran war stuff. All sorts of smart people are going, man, this seems really weird.

And did everybody really know what was going to happen? I noticed you haven't heard a word about Ukraine for months now.

I guess there's still a war going on there. But look, from a

Christian perspective, other than the blasphemous nature and the sin of being a narcissist and being so prideful,

I saw a bunch of memes that said things like, if you want to get worms, this is the way to get worms.

And then the reference to Herod and Acts. And the Nebuchadnezzar thing, that was spot on, too.

Maybe seven years of grazing on the White House lawn might take care of things at the end.

But that aside, which is so hard to put aside, that aside, the people he has surrounded himself with, you got to admit, the head of the

White House faith office, crazy lady Paula White, you don't think she hasn't come out to say anything about that, has she?

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because she's the basis of him thinking this kind of stuff.

I mean, she makes this kind of insane, idiotic, blasphemous stuff sound mainstream, because that's what she's all about.

And so you surround yourself with wacko false teacher, false prophetesses like that.

And yeah, he's gonna post crazy things like that. And when the

Muslims are offended by what Trump is doing, and I'm not talking about the fact that he's bombing a

Shiite Muslim nation, you've got to have some idea of what's really going on.

Look, if you're defending that stuff, I don't even know what planet you live on. I really, really don't.

If you call yourself a Christian, and you saw that, and you're going, well, you know, maybe didn't know, well, maybe didn't...

Wake up. Smell the coffee. Come on. There's no excuse for any of this.

None. Whatsoever. Hold him accountable. Okay, next thing. Um, yeah, okay, let's...

I don't have... I didn't save the video or anything like that.

But we've got Tucker Carlson, okay? Tucker Carlson, who, you know, during COVID, one voice of sanity, you know, that you could tune into each night, and stuff like that.

And then he went off on his own, and things started getting a little weird, and I started...

You know, when he first started doing his webcast, I'd try to catch it as often as I could.

I've stopped. He's all over the map on all sorts of things, and I'm not interested in sitting around arguing with people about him.

But I think it is important to address some of his seeming naivete about Sharia law and Islam.

Look, I'm the first one to tell you that Islam is not monolithic. Islam likes to act monolithic, but if you think

Islam is monolithic, please explain something to me. Why, during Ramadan, are they constantly blowing each other up?

Okay? The number of Muslim -on -Muslim bombings and acts of violence around the world is immense, and used to be covered a whole lot more.

Now the lamestream media doesn't, you know, it doesn't fit the narrative, and so they're sort of ignoring it.

But it is not monolithic. You can pretend all you wish.

It is not monolithic. And I'm not just talking about Sunnis and Shiites. There are liberals, and conservatives, and moderates, and nominal

Muslims all over the world. And the ones who, you know, the

Salafis, the Wahhabis, they get all the press because they try to live as Muhammad lived, as they have been taught to interpret

Muhammad. And the Muslims that will, you know, help you mow your lawn, and invite you over, you know, for dinner, they're not a part of that group.

And they follow a form of Islam that has tried to develop out of that.

And the real problem, the real issue with Islam is, can you have a meaningful reformation? Can you have development away from established traditions in Sahih al -Bukhari,

Sahih Muslim, in the in the Hadith? Can you, can Islam grow out of its

Muhammad stage? And I don't think that it can.

There are people trying. There are people pretending that it can.

They're not the ones blowing up buses, and doing things like that.

But all you gotta do is pop on X for 10 minutes, and you'll get to see all sorts of Imams, and internet influencers, and stuff like that, talking about how they're going to take over all these nations, and Christians are going to be dhimmis, paying taxes.

And here's the problem. That form of Islam can't build anything.

The form of Islam that did build beautiful buildings, and build culture, had moved away from the jihadi,

Wahhabi, Salafi mindset. Those folks just blow things up and destroy things.

They don't build things. Look at the nations where they predominate. They're third world countries at best.

And so, did Islam create a society that could sustain itself, and educate itself for a period of time?

Yeah. Can that form of Islam survive the onslaught of the conservative

Wahhabi Salafi one? Well, the guys over here will tell you, there aren't that many of them.

Okay, you don't need all that many of them. You need enough to make it look like you got a bunch, and that's what's happening in New York City, that's what's happening in Dearborn.

Those are the people who will use violence to obtain their ends, and they will eventually use violence against other

Muslims to obtain their ends. That's the problem. I mean, you need to understand, in a general

Islamic perspective, you have the Dar al -Harb, which is the world at war, and the

Dar al -Islam, which is the world at peace, subjected to Allah. So, we're in the Dar al -Harb, we're in the world of war, warfare.

And their goal is the subjugation of that world under Allah. That's what they say.

I don't think anyone would argue about that. The issue is, how does that happen? The more scholarly

Muslims that take very seriously a traditional form of Islam that has developed and has developed barriers to the kinds of behavior that you see from the

Salafis, from the Wahhabis, they want to believe that the way for Islam to predominate, and they do want

Islam to predominate because they believe that's how you have peace with God, is through argumentation and the presentation of the truths of Islam and things like that.

The Wahhabi and the Salafis say no, and that's not what the Prophet did.

And again, because of the inconsistency of sources, because of the evolutionary stuff going on with, there are people playing with the cameras outside,

I don't know if you can see that, but I don't know who it is, but it's annoying. Anyway, distracting, to say the least.

Because of the sources, because Muhammad starts off as a minority

Prophet, and he's persecuted. And then he becomes the majority, and now he's doing the persecuting.

You can choose, I can choose those portions of the Quran that emphasize peacefulness and getting along with others and things like that, because they're there at the beginning of Muhammad's life, and then the other people can emphasize

Surah 9, which is at the end, when he's now a Prophet at war.

And so, the sources just aren't consistent. And so,

Muslims can choose, pick and choose what they want. And it's a problem.

It really, really is. And I don't think Tucker Carlson understands that. Tucker Carlson is, you know, he's listening to various and sundry people, and he's not getting a consistent perspective, and I don't think he has a decent

Christian background to interpret these things from. But he said that what people don't want to tell you is that the

Muslims love Jesus. And I'm like, okay, um, how do you explain this?

Because Muslims will tell you, oh, we love Jesus. Yeah, what Jesus do they love? You know, Mormons tell you, we love

Jesus. Well, what Jesus do they love? And in our day, most people are like, it doesn't matter!

As long as they love Jesus, cool! All is well! And it's like, um, that doesn't make any sense.

You have to have an agreed understanding of what the word Jesus means. And the

Jesus of Islam, and the Jesus of Christianity, and the Jesus of Mormonism, those are three completely different things.

And the Jesus of Jehovah's Witnesses, and whoever else. And so, when

Tucker Carlson says, well, Muslims love Jesus, I go, um, what do they know about Jesus?

The vast majority of Muslims I've met have never read the Gospels. They've never read the Gospels.

Not even one. That's why one of the greatest things you can do is get them to read one of the

Gospels. Get them to read Mark. The Jesus of Mark is the same

Jesus of the Gospel of John. And if you don't recognize that, you've missed the boat, exegetically speaking.

But get them to read a Gospel. They don't know who Jesus is. There, if you saw the debate we did a few weeks ago, 236 words.

236 Arabic words attributed to Jesus in the entirety of the Quran. That's barely two tweets.

Well, that's characters. That's more than that. It's very short. And there's almost nothing about Jesus in those 236 words.

It has been well said that the Jesus of the Quran is an argument for monotheism and the prophethood of Muhammad.

The Jesus of the Quran is not a person. He's an argument. How do you love an argument?

If you say, well, we love Jesus. What do you mean you love Jesus? You deny he's the

Son of God. You do believe he was virgin born. But you deny his crucifixion, and hence you deny his resurrection.

He's not even the upper level of heaven when Muhammad visited. Muhammad has a higher position than Jesus in any meaningful analysis of that.

So what do you mean you love Jesus? You don't know anything about Jesus.

You don't love the Jesus of the Gospels because you don't believe Jesus said almost anything that's attributed to him in the

Gospels. So what kind of statement is it? What is even being communicated?

That's where Carlson really demonstrates his immaturity. He doesn't understand these issues at all, and it would be nice if he could meet some

Christians that could help him. I mean, he's interviewed some good Christians, but that probably wasn't the subject of their conversation.

But when you hear someone saying that, the immediate question has to be, which

Jesus? What Jesus are we talking about? And you know, Jesus said, if you love me, you'll keep my commandments.

If they don't read what his commandments are, how can they say they're loving him? And the commandments they're keeping are

Muhammad's commandments. They're not keeping Jesus's commandments. And Muhammad knew nothing about Jesus's commandments in the first place. Muhammad did not have access to the

Gospels either. Modern Muslims have access to the Gospels, they just don't read it. Muhammad didn't have access to the

Gospels at all because they hadn't been translated into Arabic, and according to Muslims, he didn't read

Arabic anyways. So there you go. So when you run into this stuff, just go, wow, okay, there's a problem there.

Let's see here. Yeah, all right. Real quick,

Pope Leo visited the mosque in Algiers, third largest mosque in the world, and he described it as a space proper to God.

Now, I verified this. I pulled up the exact quotations that he gave.

And again, you know, some people are saying, see, here comes the one world religion, and the

Muslims and the Catholics and East Orthodox are all going to get together and be a one world religion and so on and so forth.

Okay, you got to understand, there was one of the documents of Vatican II, it's called

Nostra Aetate. 1965 was it? I think so. And we're going to have reason to talk about it here in a second because Calvin Robinson says it was written by a

Jew. Well, it was written by a convert from Judaism, Roman Catholicism, but I guess once a

Jew, always a Jew, in their mindset. But, well, at least the original draft was.

That wasn't what ended up being promulgated. But anyway, Nostra Aetate clearly marked one of the greatest departures of Vatican II from previous

Catholic tradition. It is very easy to document that between Unum Sanctum, Council of Florence.

So you're talking, you know, Council of Florence, what was it? 1442, something like that. Don't have anything in front of me right now.

Run off the top of the noggin right now, which doesn't have a whole lot there. It is easy to demonstrate that Roman Catholicism has taught for a long time that one must be subject to a profession of faith in Christ and to the

Catholic Church to be saved. And, you know, Vatican II's separated brethren language and stuff like that, yeah, that's modern.

That's not Trent. That's development at the very least.

Evolution, departure, mutation, whatever. But as far as the

Muslims are concerned, it was self -evident that Islam was not a path to God, according to Roman Catholicism.

And so, you can't dispute that. So when

Nostra Aetate comes out and says that we, together the Muslims, adore the same

God, something has happened. And that something has continued to happen since the 1960s and continues to develop and has been given the soil in which to grow, basically, by the embracing of Newman's Development Hypothesis, now his elevation to Doctor of the

Church, you can recognize that something's happening.

So much so that it's self -evident to me that any Pope before 1900 would be aghast at when

John Paul II kissed the Quran, or, you know,

Pope Leo in the mosque, you know, praying next to the

Imam. Of course, he wasn't, I'm not saying he was praying to Allah. He didn't get down and do the

Muslim prayers. But he was referring to this as a space proper to God.

And given what Nostra Aetate says, the same God. And there's the issue.

The vast majority of well -read Muslims would disagree with that.

Yes, they claim that they worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus, but they believe they're all Muslims. And they're saying that we have committed excess to Alu in the

Quran. And that excess is the deification of Jesus.

So, the honest person says, no, we do not adore the same

God. We do not worship the same God, or anything like that.

Just doesn't follow. They know that. Why the

Pope doesn't know that, I don't know. Now, this Pope, you know, some stuff, I saw some stuff this week

I had not seen before, scrubbed his social media when he was elected Pope. But somebody had already collected it.

And this guy has just as many left wings as Francis did. That's why

I'm convinced he was Francis's hand -picked successor. That's why the

College of Cardinals didn't have any trouble coming up with a new Pope. He was the guy from the start.

And he's continuing Francis's policies, putting the same people in positions of authority and things like that.

So, he didn't have any problem going against tradition. I'm sorry to you

Roman Catholics who thought you had finally dodged the Francis bullet and then got shot by the

Leo bullet. That's just sort of how it works for you. And when you elevate one guy to a position where, you know, one former

Pope had even made the claim, I am tradition. I am tradition.

The Pope is tradition. You know, because we always ask the question, you want to tell us what this tradition is?

You want to say we have to follow it? How about you show it to us before you define dogmas like the bodily assumption based on it?

Well, they can't. Because there is no such thing. They have nothing been passed down since the

Apostles to them. It's completely fraudulent, in essence.

So, once you put somebody in that position, you're stuck. He's going to get to do with the church what he wants to do with the church, and that's what's happening right now.

So, there wasn't anything overly shocking. People would say, he took his shoes off. You're supposed to take your shoes off when you go to mosque.

It's not a religious thing. They sit on the floor. Okay? So, that's how it works.

It's a cleanliness thing. It's not a religious thing. So, don't freak out about that.

It's like when people freak out about someone using the term Allah. It's the word for God in Arabic.

It's very generic. Christians in Arabic call God Allah. It's not a specific name in the language, anyways.

So, but it is a major thing for the Pope to say that this is a space proper to God, because that is a space proper to the worship of a different God.

A God who was defined after the

Christian God was defined, and hence is the negation. Read Surah 112.

Read Surah 121. That's the third ayah.

That is a direct denial of the Christian statement that Jesus is the son of God. So, have

I been in a mosque? Sure have. Have I spoken in a mosque? Sure have. And what did

I do? I presented the gospel in the mosque. I defended the deity of Christ in the mosque. I defended the gospel in the mosque, standing in front of the

Qibla. I didn't stand there and say, well, we're all worshiping the same

God, because they know that's not true, and I know that's not true. So, I'm not going to be showing them respect to lie to them.

But that's what ecumenical Christianity is all about. It lies to people.

Yeah, there's a guy, Answers in Genesis, had a nice video about the Trump thing.

He even had the video of Trump trying to explain it. And then Francis Turretinfan posted this thing.

This is good, except I will never be able to read it. Oh, I guess

I can. All right. Turretinfan posted this, the

Litany of Loretto. It's a Roman Catholic prayer, and he asked the question, what is more blasphemous, wearing a

Jesus uniform and pretending to heal somebody, or this? So, here's the Litany of Loretto.

Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy, Lord have mercy, Christ hear us, Christ graciously hear us. God, the

Father of Heaven, have mercy on us. God, the Son, redeemed of the world. God, the Holy Spirit, Holy Trinity, one God. Okay, so far so good.

Holy Mary, pray for us. Holy Mother of God, Holy Virgin of Virgins, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church, Mother of Mercy, Mother of Divine Grace, Mother of Hope, Mother Most Pure, Mother Most Chaste, Mother Inviolate, Mother Undefiled, Mother Most Amiable, Mother Most Admirable, Mother of Good Counsel, Mother of our

Creator, Mother of our Savior, Virgin Most Prudent, Virgin Most Venerable, Virgin Most Renowned, Virgin Most Powerful, Virgin Most Merciful, Virgin Most Faithful, Mirror of Justice, Seat of Wisdom, Cause of our

Joy, Spiritual Vessel, Vessel of Honor, Singular Vessel of Devotion, Mystical Rose, Tower of David, Tower of Ivory, House of Gold, Ark of the

Covenant, Gate of Heaven, Morning Star, Health of the Sick, Refuge of Sinners, Solace of Migrants, Great Solace of Migrants, Comfort of the

Afflicted, Help of Christians, Queen of Angels, Queen of Patriarchs, Queen of Prophets, Queen of Apostles, Queen of Martyrs, Queen of Confessors, Queen of Virgins, Queen of All Saints, Queen Conceived without Original Sin, Queen Assumed in Heaven, Queen of the

Most Holy Rosary, Queen of Families, Queen of Peace. Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, spare us,

O Lord. Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, graciously hear us, O Lord. Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, have mercy on us.

Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. Let us pray, grant we seek thee,

O Lord God, that we, your servants, may enjoy perpetual health of mind and body, and by the glorious intercession of the

Blessed Virgin, of the Blessed Mary, ever Virgin, may be delivered from present sorrow and obtain eternal joy through Christ our

Lord. Amen. 85 % of that is about Mary. 85 % of it.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, get a little mention. 85 % of it about the

Virgin Mary. So, there's the question. That's a very good question. Which is more blasphemous?

Which one will actually get any press? Yeah, there you go.

Alright, so, was there something else? Um, well,

I did want to just briefly, the story has broken over the past couple of days of how our next -door state to us here in Arizona, the one

I don't go to anymore, is, um, providing free, taxpayer -paid, sex transition surgeries to illegal transgender migrants.

Did you hear that? If you pay taxes in the state of California, your taxes are going to provide state -sponsored sex change alteration surgeries to non -citizens of the

United States. We're not talking about life -saving surgeries.

We're not talking about removing a cancerous lump. We're talking about mutilating the body, and you're paying for it.

Now, we might also be paying for sex change operations in Somalia, but that's a different route of the money going there.

Same people in charge of it. It's the Democrats bankrupting us either direction. I don't think we'd have half the deficit we have if it weren't for all the corruption.

And yeah, the vast majority of it goes to the left, but there's plenty of going to the right, too. So, just mark this one down.

Steal another election. Win an election by hook, crook. I think we're past the point where the people who win the election are the people who pay the most people to vote for them, and that means we're done.

Cooked, toasted. Somebody go grab the original Constitution, put it in a lockbox where nobody knows where it is, because its relevance is done.

If the leftists take the White House and the Senate, they will pack the court and the

Constitution's done. Because the only value it has is people raise their hand and say,

I will defend it. The vast majority of the people in public office have never read it, and all of them on one side of that aisle hate it with a deep passion, and they want it gone, and they're doing everything they can to destroy it.

Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong. You can't. You know it's true. You know it's absolutely true. Okay, so, yeah,

I haven't said anything about what? Well, it's connected, so there's...

looks better? All right, well, I honestly try to avoid this, but once you get enough stuff coming across your feed...

And by the way, I do have an ex -tweet that I want to respond to eventually.

A guy who talks about his conversion to Roman Catholicism, and it'd be good to walk through it, because it's the standard

McGrath, Ustitia Dei, nobody believed justification the way you did type stuff. Shows real ignorance of where Rome is on justification right now, too.

But anyway, I do want to get to that. I've still got it bookmarked there, so hopefully it's not going to go anyplace.

Joel Webben. Okay, a couple things here. The first thing is a brief one.

There is a... The Nazi sympathizers online, led by Stonechoir, have been saying for a long time that the

Holocaust narrative can't possibly be true, because you just couldn't have killed that many people that fast, that efficiently.

And you couldn't bury the bodies, and you just... The crematoriums would have worked too slowly, and it just couldn't be done.

And other people have come back with original documentation from Nazi sources, with the stuff up on the screen, to demonstrate how that's a bunch of baloney.

That it's assuming all sorts of things that have never been a part of the claim, and isn't dealing with how they sadly advanced in their technology, and how to quickly dispose of human bodies, and all the rest of that kind of stuff.

So, there are people who have debunked this stuff. But the Nazi sympathizers keep repeating it.

And Stonechoir keeps repeating, because that's what Stonechoir is. Stonechoir is the American Nazi party, along with the

KKK, and every other cultic, wild, insane thing you ever want to put together in one sticky mess.

That's Stonechoir. And including a poisonous male platypus.

Oh, you forgot about that, didn't you? Your brain had kicked that right out, didn't it?

I wish I had that brain cell back, because I have a deficit these days anyways. So, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, that the guy had a chance to demonstrate how great a debater was.

Anyway, didn't work out too well for him. So, here's a, it's just the beginning of a video.

And who's repeating the Stonechoir anti -Holocaust stuff?

Well, this may be why it's showing up in your church, too. Now, my point is just to say that that element of the

Holocaust has the least primary sources, the least provable data in order to support.

So, you're taking... Because there's no evidence left. There's no bodies that are buried. Correct. That's, it's a logistical problem.

This seems a high quantity of bodies to bury. That's what you're getting at with the least support. So, to say the weakest part of it is, it just simply would be logistically impossible.

And yet, if you simply look at the raw math, and this is math you can do yourself, it would have taken around two hours.

And so, when you look at the math, it becomes literally impossible for the number of bodies that they claim to have cremated there to have been cremated.

Stonechoir. Okay, so, evidently, this is a long -term project on the part of Stonechoir to try to question the

Holocaust narrative on, they just couldn't kill that many people that fast, in essence. But, and then that's debunked in the rest of this particular video.

But here you have, you know, NXR, New Christian Right, and where do you think they get this stuff?

Do you think, do you think, honestly, the guy who sat there at one point a couple years ago, and said,

I don't have 10 ,000 hours to do the study to figure this stuff out. You think he's done 10 ,000 hours since then?

Um, no, no, he hasn't. So, you've got the Nazi stuff going down there, and then you've got this pitiful stuff, and this is so much worse, in my opinion.

Here you have Joel Webbin, Dale Partridge, and Calvin Robinson.

And y 'all will remember, Calvin Robinson is a crypto -Catholic type of guy.

Um, people look at him, he normally wears his priestly get -up, and he, you know, they, oh, that Roman Catholic guy.

Well, he's not actually Roman Catholic, and in fact, for most of us, our introduction to Calvin Robinson was during COVID, and he seemed like a conservative

Anglican dude. Um, but he wasn't. He is some kind of Catholic.

Uh, he's not Roman Catholic. I've lost track of the number of teeny, tiny, little idiosyncratic groups he's been associated with and gotten kicked out of over the past five years.

So, I don't even know where he is now, I'll be honest with you. And I don't know how he makes a living, how he gets support, clueless.

But he's the darling of the Christian Nationalists. And so, the new

Christian Right did something at some point, and here you've got

Dale Partridge just sort of sitting there, staring off into space, and you've got Joel Webbin and Father Robinson.

The—what you're going to hear should absolutely bug you. It's certainly—this is not the man that I sat on a platform with, with Joe Boot, only three years ago.

The change has been sudden and dramatic, maybe four now.

Um, and I don't see where it's going to stop. But this is a guy who once called himself a theonomic

Calvinist, and yet the things he's saying that are absolutely a complete compromise of Reformed theology,

Reformed history, Reformed position, um, it's astonishing.

I don't see why—I don't see what the barriers would be for him to just finally set sail and get across the

Tiber. And in my opinion, if the cliques would be there, he probably would. Because this is pathetic.

That's the only way to put it. Absolutely pathetic. And why? Because it's all the

Jews. The Jews, the Jews, the Jews. Once that rot infects your brain, it's done.

You're over with. You'll believe anything, say anything, just make it the

Jews, the Jews, the Jews. So here's this exchange. It's only two minutes and 41 seconds, but it'll probably take us easily the next 15 minutes to cover it.

Here, here we go. We've been under the impression that atheism is just Judaism.

Believing anything, yeah. Atheism is Judaism. Like, in many ways, I think that—

Well, it's a denial of Christ, for sure. It's a denial of Christ, but— Okay, um, atheism is

Judaism? What? What? I mean, I know atheistic

Jews because because Jew can simply be an ethnicity. But what kind of insanity leads you to just completely abandon all categorical thinking and to speak like this?

It seems to be such a prejudice, such a bias, such an animus, that you would think a rational person would recognize it and go, man,

I've really gotten biased there, don't I? No. Atheism is

Judaism. I mean, anybody who would invest just a few moments of thought can come up with so many disconnects and so many category problems.

I mean, what are you identifying as Judaism? That's one of the big things, is these guys motting

Bailey that one constantly. They'll want to use the biggest, widest net possible, and then when you push, it's always

Talmudic Judaism, and it's this version right here, which doesn't fit all the rest of the stuff they're saying.

But this kind of rhetoric where you're sitting around, and you've got your suit on, and you're all cool, you've got your legs crossed, and everybody's watching my new

Christian network, and whoa, and Zanga say stupid stuff. I'm going to demonstrate

I don't have a clue what I'm talking about. That I never took scholarship seriously. That I always just glommed off of everybody else.

And I'll do it again. And once he gets rid of these guys, once they become a competition or whatever, or the gravy train moves someplace else, that's what's going to happen.

Atheism is a Jewish project in many ways. Yeah, you could argue that Protestantism is too.

Yeah, no. We've got layers here, guys. We've got layers. I enjoy a good joke.

Okay, this isn't a joke. It will determine that. Many reasons. One is the canon of the

Bible. Okay. So the Catholic canon of the Bible. Right, you have some extra books in there. Right, because the

Protestants said, let's look at what the Hebrews have in their canon. Okay, now this is something you really need to zero in on, because there's another person who doesn't deserve to be named who's doing a series right now, of course, behind paywalls.

That was the other thing I was going to do, by the way. I was going to do,

I was going to respond to Capturing Christianity's comments about the unpardonable sin.

The problem is, I saw someone respond to it, but nobody can watch it because it's behind a

Patreon paywall. It's just, it's so ironic, because seemingly he's saying that if you deny all these

Marian apparitions and stuff like that, you're questioning the Holy Spirit and you're committing the unpardonable sin.

But he won't tell you about that unless you subscribe to his Patreon stuff. So that's highly problematic, to put it mildly.

So here's Calvin Robinson, the person who shall not be named, is doing the

Greek Septuagint, was the Christian Bible, and the

Church made a big mistake, and Jerome made a big mistake by emphasizing the

Hebrew scriptures over against the Greek Septuagint. Okay, now, we have talked about the

Greek Septuagint many, many times on this program over the years. You put that in as a search parameter, and you will see that we have literally bored multiple generations of Dividing Line listeners with lengthy conversations about translations, and wow, we really have a problem with that, don't we?

Where's the old one? I guess we're gonna have to just use that one.

This really surprises me, because this is the exact same unit that I put in the

RV, and that one works fine. Actually, Rich, there's another one still in the box in the

RV storage room. I suppose we could try that too. But anyway...

Well, this one, because we know it works. Yeah, this one at least works. It's from my laptop.

We're having issues. You're gonna have to bring that down, or everything's gonna disappear and stuff.

And, and, and, and, and, and...

Yeah, some elevator music, please. HDMI, and USB, and...

All right, there goes that. And we will see if that does anything better.

Anyway, the radical that shall not be renamed is promoting the idea that the early church made this big, huge mistake, and they should have gone with the

Greek Septuagint. Now, the problem is, I just saw it flash again. Um, the problem is that, so it may be on your end, not on my end.

Um, the, the problem is that it's a, I would like to know if this argumentation is going to deal with the massive textual variation that exists between the

Hebrew and the Greek at many places. Um, the majority of which is clearly a problem with the

Greek Septuagint, not with the Hebrew Masoretic Text. Um, that can be glossed over by people who maybe don't have access to the

Guttentgin Septuagint and things like that, and don't have the scholarly materials to actually do a decent job, and may not even read the language itself anyways.

But, um, the, the fact of the matter is, all the Reformed confessions all say the same thing, that the

Old Testament was delivered in Hebrew. Um, if you don't believe that, then you don't believe there is an

Old Testament until 200 years before Christ. And the Greek Septuagint is plainly a translation of another language.

So what was that other language? What, what did Jesus read from, um, when the scrolls were handed to him?

Well, it might have been a Greek Septuagint. They weren't, they weren't in a Greek place. Why would that be?

That doesn't, doesn't make a lick of sense. Anyway, um, so this stuff's, what?

Peter Okay, I'm curious on this because a few weeks ago I got a call from this Orthodox guy, and he's all over me about this.

That the Hebrew scriptures are corrupted, and that Orthodoxy has historically always used the

Septuagint, and da -da -da -da. And I'm like, this one's new. No, it's not new.

Mark Maybe it's old. I just didn't know about it. Peter Oh, yeah. No, they, they, Orthodoxy has always had a predilection toward, uh, the

Greek Septuagint. Um, and again, the problem is the

Greek Septuagint is a translation of another language, very plainly a tra - and better in some places and worse in others.

There are bad sections of the Septuagint that just were not done well at all. The Pentateuch's pretty good.

But the problem is the Pentateuch and in the Hebrew and in the

Septuagint are almost identical. They're very, very, very similar. Um, so anyway, um, what, what is feeding all this right now?

Why are these people coming up with this stuff, revisiting stuff, um, that we've talked about for years and, because it's apologetically relevant.

Various groups have tried to use textual variation between the Hebrew and the

Greek, and the fact that the New Testament writers do generally cite from the

Greek Septuagint. Why? Because they're writing to Greek -speaking people. So that was the version available to them.

That's the version they're going to use when they're writing to them, explaining the Gospel in Hebrews, so on and so forth, even the

Gospel writers themselves. Did that just disappear? Oh, um, so, so it is relevant.

But right now it's become relevant because it's a new way to get people to go, it's the Jews, it's the

Jews. We don't want to be using Hebrew, Hebrew's Jew language. It's just, it's so vile.

I mean, he's a Judeo -Christian's a heresy. You morons. I wrote a whole book about it's a heresy.

Okay, yeah, once people lose their minds, they lose them completely. So, that's what he's talking about here.

And he's going, well, you know, in the early Church, they decided to look at the

Hebrew Scriptures as if, so one of the relevances here is that the

Roman Catholic can go, well, the Greek Septuagint had the apocryphal books. Well, we, the only manuscripts we have of the

Greek Septuagint that could answer that question are from much, much later, and they're Christian.

They were written by Christians, not by Jews. So to say the Greek Septuagint contained those books in the first century when it's being used to be cited from by the

New Testament writers is a completely different issue. Completely different issue. The Jews did not accept those books as canonical, and the

Greek Septuagint is a Jewish production, which is the funny part here. Okay, it's

Jews that created it. Portions of it have been found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

So, it was very much a Jewish thing, and then once it became adopted by the

Christians, then they pushed back against it. But it was produced by Jews.

Okay? It's still a Jewish book. And anybody, again, who knows church history knows that, you know, with Justin Martyr, his dialogue with Trifle the

Jew, accusations fly back and forth, they're changing scriptures, you know, and in a day when all scripture is handwritten, that's much more of an issue than it is today, where you at least have some means of establishing, you know, a standard, and someone can't go and just create a new copy, a handwritten copy, and go, oh,

I saw what it says, look, it says here. So, we're in a little bit of a different situation here.

But it does come up in the canonical argumentation, as it's going to here.

— Let's take the Jewish canon. Rather than the Catholic, the Christian canon, they took the Jewish canon. Likewise, Protestantism.

— Okay, catch that. Rather than a Catholic, Christian canon, he's assuming something that cannot be assumed.

Again, the Old Testament canon, the New Testament church, Beckwith, deal with it, good luck.

That's a false assumption on his part. He would not be able to prove it. He's just simply assuming it to throw it out there.

And notice, Webben, no clue. No pushback at all.

Doesn't know this field at all. And shouldn't bother to try, honestly.

— It's a Jewish breakdown of the order of God. So it's more like, you can believe that, but not that.

You can believe that, but not that. It's the picking and choosing of bits of Christianity in order to lead people away from Christianity.

So see what's being said there is, well, you know, the Reformation, you know, the Jews said, believe this, believe that.

The Reformation says you can believe this, believe that. He's assuming the original apostolic nature of the

Catholic position. He can't prove it. Once you start pushing,

I mean, the stuff that he said about Mary two years ago now, where he agreed with this guy who was saying that the thief on the cross was saved through Mary's intercession.

Remember that? Where he said, that's Mary -pilled. Okay, he was agreeing with that, promoting

Marian devotion and things like that. That is not apostolic by any stretch of the imagination.

By any stretch of the imagination. Someone said on Twitter, well, you should debate Calvin Robinson. Sure, fine, on what?

You know, after the debate in October, what do you want to debate on?

You want to debate on the Sola Scriptura? You want to debate on canon issues? You want to debate on the Apocrypha? You want to debate on any of that kind of stuff?

Okay, where? Let's make it a part of a trip. I'd be happy to.

He's not going to do that. Because he knows, he's just throwing this stuff out now.

But against me, he's going to have to back it up. And he can. I think he knows that.

So that's probably not going to happen, but to those who think that it would. Whereas rather than having the fullness of the truth, you can have that bit of the truth and reject that bit and still be in good stead with God.

That's the Jewish loopholes of, we can turn the lights off automatically and not break the rules.

That's not true. We know that not to be true. I hear you. I think Protestantism is the inevitable and tragically, and don't miss that word tragically, tragically necessary reaction to the abuses of Rome.

I think that if Rome would have cut the crap, then

I don't think any of this would have happened. But it's a two -pronged approach. So the Jews have been infiltrating the Roman church for a long time.

Yes. Most of Vatican II was Jewish and or Protestant. You know, Nostra Aetate, which people often say is the document that makes it sound like Jews have salvation outside of Christian truth, which is not true.

That document was drafted by a Jew. There's lots of infiltration. Okay, that's what I was mentioning earlier. I mentioned that in passing.

One of the original drafter was ethnically a

Jew, but had converted decades earlier. But evidently, once a Jew, always a

Jew. Do you catch that? I mean, there really is, and you see this in the polemics online, once a

Jew, always a Jew. When they see people who are converts, they don't trust them. Evidently, the

Spirit of God can't get rid of the Jew gene or something like that. I don't know.

These people are nuts. The animus has rotted their brains out.

It's just like, what happened to these people? So that particular document is incredibly problematic.

It truly is, both by the Jews and the Muslims. Nostra Aetate is the primary example of where Vatican II fundamentally departed from historic

Roman Catholic tradition. No question about that. But it's the

Jews that did it. No, it's not the Jews that did it. Unless you go, well, everything is bad, including leftist stuff and secularism and liberalism.

It's all Jewish. It all comes from the Jews. Okay, those people, I can't talk to them, and I can't talk to Flat Earthers.

There's nobody home to talk to. Once somebody has decided that secularism,

Jewish. Leftism, Jewish. Everything's Jewish. They're to blame for everything.

Homosexuality is Jewish, and transgenderism is Jewish. And once you get there,

I'm not even going to waste my time with you. You're no longer rational.

You've lost your mind. And you're just going to keep babbling down that trail forever.

And I'm not going to bother to try to get you off of it. There's no reason to try. But Nostra Aetate is not a

Jewish infiltration. It is the infiltration of a secular worldview.

The same secular worldview that has created the education system in the United States, that gutted the mainstream, the mainline denominations, so that they will be dead in 30 years, not even existent, maybe even in 15 years.

That's where it comes from. What? Somebody in the channel explained why we're having the flicker.

It's the Jews. Oh, of course. Of course. So Acer sounds like Asher, which was a

Jew. There it is. At least this one is made by some

Japanese thing. And there are no Japanese Jews. So at least

I don't think so. I don't know. Sorry. I don't have any problem mocking you people once you start doing this stuff.

Within the church, but also Satan wants people to leave the church. And so I think both fronts were an attack of the enemy.

It's us. It's our fallen nature. It's sin. Of course it is. But he's driving it. The enemy is driving it to drive us away from the one true living

God. He almost said the one true church. He was that close.

And if he had not been sitting with two self -professed

Protestants that may not stay that way, I think he would have said it. I really do think he would have said it.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree. I agree. The Reformation was because of the infiltration of the

Jews into the church. I agree. How absolutely pathetic this has gotten.

It is, to anyone with even a semblance of understanding of what the

Reformation was, why it started, when it started, why it didn't start at other periods in history,

Judaism had next to nothing to do with it. Next to nothing to do with it. And when you twist history that way, you've, not only do you have zero credibility, but you have zero ability to interact with reality itself.

And look, these guys have been warned. A lot of us have stood up, waved the flag, said, yo, guys, cliff ahead, slow down.

It ain't slowing down. A lot of Catholic charities that you look at the board of trustees that make it up, that they're all pushing for immigration and getting millions and millions of dollars to bring more foreigners in.

And you'll look at the makeup of the top six board members of massive

Catholic immigrant charities, and five out of six of them will be Jewish. You know, it's like, how did that happen?

How do we keep our defenses up against? Please. Yeah, so, look, there is no question about the fact that Catholic charities are a major, major problem.

They really are. Roman Catholics tell you the same thing. Major, major problem.

Just funneling money into the most leftist causes on the planet. And when you look at the last pope and the current pope, that's not difficult to understand.

They are major leftists. Political leftists. Socialists. What?

Well, Southern Baptists have their very similar problem. It's not a

Jewish problem. They got taken over institutionally. And I don't think, from what

I've seen the last number of conventions, I don't think they're ever going to break through the wall that has been built, the institutional wall that has fundamentally made the

Southern Baptist Convention a inevitably leftist progressive movement.

And that doesn't reflect the people in the pews, but, you know, the conservative resurgence was temporary, not permanent.

And I think we're seeing that right now. So anyways, it was pathetic to see the so -called

Protestants just sit there twiddling their thumbs. The only thing

Webben said was, well, if they just cut the crap, you might want to define what that might be.

You know, claims of people authority and, you know, that whole justification thing and, you know, the purgatory stuff and, you know, that indulgence stuff.

You know, push the guy. Say something. Stand up.

Man, you guys talk about being so masculine. Quit being a bunch of wimps. Man, give me a break.

Anyway, yeah, that was fun. That was, that was fun. Hey, guess who's in Phoenix?

Hey, Wes Huff's in Phoenix. Wants to get together. All right, we'll see if we can't. That's going to be tough.

Man, because Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday next week, it's going to be ugly. But we'll, we'll see what we can do.

Oh, yeah. All right. So as we wrap up, Tuesday, Wednesday of next week,

Rich is abandoning me, leaving me alone at the end of next week.

Running off to, you know, probably Puerto Vallarta, Hawaii, you know, whatever, you know, taking the

A &O jet with him. Um, there, there is no

A &O jet. The closest thing we have to the A &O jet is a GMC truck. And I drive that.

So, and pull a 40 foot fifth wheel. Which, by the way, we should have up on the website pretty quickly.

We're doing a swing over to beautiful Lubbock, Texas. Mentioned it last time.

Uh, that, we will be discussing, that will be

May. I will be, I sent you the stuff. Yeah, I've got it right here.

Oh, you got the stuff? Yeah, so you're going to be May 16th and 17th, Heritage Reformed Baptist Church.

Heritage Reformed Church. Reformed Church, my bad. 818 Main Street. Woolforth, Texas, which is right next to Lubbock.

Woolforth, Texas. Woolforth, yes. Woolforth. And so I had a lady call me yesterday.

She's from Lubbock and heard on the show that you mentioned you were going to be nearby. And she says she is your biggest listener.

So we need to get that information out there. And then you're going to be on the 19th

Tuesday at Grace Covenant Church in Las Cruces, New Mexico. Right. And I guess that topic hasn't been nailed down yet.

No. You're going to be talking about Islam in Lubbock on Saturday and then preaching the

Sunday service? Right. There might be something Friday. We haven't decided on that because I get in on Thursdays. So I could do something for the church on Friday as well.

But we haven't nailed that stuff down yet. Yep. So and then next week, like you said, we are Tuesday, Wednesday for the show here.

And then, yes, I'm going to Moab. And I'm not taking the truck.

Nope. My son has been building a truck and wants to try it out in Moab.

And he's promised me no rock, whatever they call that, rock crawling.

Yeah. But it's quite the beast. That's the only reason to go to Moab. Yeah. That's quite the beast.

So we're going to go up and try that out. Okay. Probably not as big as mine, though.

What? I have a picture. Oh, okay. The tires are 35s.

Oh, well, okay. Yeah. Yours is not going to go where this is going to go. No, no.

And I would not want to drive that for five hours on the freeway. We got it back after the rebuild.

We got it back on Monday or Tuesday? Monday. And the first thing the guy says, you need to understand when you're driving the streets, there's no stabilizer bar on the front end so that the tires can pivot independently.

There's no stabilizer bar. I don't have any idea what a stabilizer bar is.

Well, basically, when you take corners on a pavement street, be very careful because it will flop around.

Sounds exciting. Yes. All right. And we're driving that thing up there. That does not sound exciting at all. Anyway, so Tuesday, Wednesday next week, we'll figure out how to let you know about that.

And I do want to respond to the PopeRespector guy on his conversion story.

I've got that one saved here. That's going to be worthwhile doing. So there you go.

There's the program. We covered it all, went as fast as we could, and hopefully that was useful to folks.

Man, we've covered a lot over the past two programs from all that in -depth Mormonism stuff to now this, the

Greek Septuagint and Hebrew texts and Vatican II and Nostra Aetate.

We cover the waterfront and we do it just for you.

So, by the way, in Las Cruces, I'm looking forward to doing a dividing line from there because I've stayed at the

Las Cruces KOA a number of times. It's a beautiful spot. It's one of the prettiest KOA spots around. There's no question about it.

It's up on a hill. It's looking out over the whole valley at the mountains to the east.

And the sun rises over those mountains. And so there can be some incredible sunrises.

And there are a bunch of slots right along the edge looking out over the valley.

But they're not pull -through spots, so I've never gone for them. But I figured

I'm going to be there a few days. I went for a back -in spot. So the office, the dividing line studio, will be facing out over the valley.

And so maybe I'll take that other camera and just turn out the window and say, See? See the view you get up here?

Be the best advertisement the Las Cruces KOA has ever gotten. All right, that's it for the program.