March 12, 2024 Show with Dr. Daniel A. Biddle on “The Ark & the Darkness: Unearthing the Mysteries of Noah’s Flood”

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His name is Dr. Daniel A. Biddle, president of Genesis Apologetics, and today we're going to be addressing something that is both a book and a soon-to-be-released film in theaters on March 20th and 21st, The Ark and the Darkness, Unearthing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Trump and Zion Radio, Dr. Dan Biddle.

Thank you very much for having me. I'm excited to be on your show.

Why don't you tell our listeners about Genesis Apologetics?

Genesis Apologetics and a Young-Earth View of Genesis

Yeah, so I'm the president of Genesis Apologetics. We are a student-focused ministry that focuses on equipping students to handle the evolution teaching that they receive through the world, through public school, through museums and the like.

We equip them to understand that the natural reading of the early chapters of Genesis constitute real history, and we give them evidence why evolution isn't true and why creation is. So most of our resources are free online, and we have a YouTube channel with about 20 million-some views on it and almost 200 ,000 subscribers that enjoy our videos.

Most of our videos are very short, 5 to 15-minute-long videos that provide very compelling evidence of the historicity of Genesis and creation, and then show the weaknesses of evolution teaching.

Great.

Well, if anybody needs more details about this wonderful ministry, go to GenesisApologetics .com. GenesisApologetics .com. Well, before we get into a promotion of and an exploration of your book and the movie that's coming out on The Ark and the Darkness, I would love to hear a summary of your salvation testimony as I inform you before the show whenever we have a first-time guest on Iron Trip and Zion Radio.

We have that guest give a summary of how they were saved by the mercy and grace of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, including a background of what kind of religious atmosphere, if any, in which you were raised and what kind of providential circumstances our Sovereign Lord raised up in your life that drew you to Himself and saved you.

So let's hear your story.

Yeah.

Gosh, what a great thing that you do with your guests. So I was raised in a middle-class, suburban type of home here in California with a together home, a mom, dad, and brother, and would occasionally go to church as a Christian.

My mom was probably more into her faith than my dad was at the time, so I would go to church occasionally, maybe Christmas, Easter, and a few other times. But I didn't receive Christ personally until I went to a junior high ranch camp, kind of a horse camp thing, when I was 11 years old and heard the message, and Christ compelled me to say the sinner's prayer, and I was regenerate that night.

And I do believe that it takes God to know God, and I had my appointment with the Lord that evening, and I was brought to faith in Christ, and it's just been never the same ever since. I did, however, have a rocky time after that.

I was saved at 11 years old at that camp. I basically came home, and within months of receiving Christ, my parents announced a divorce, and I went kind of wild in my teenage years. I fell away from Christ and backslid and did the teenage rebellious thing until I was about 17 years old.

I repented of that crazy lifestyle and came back to Christ when I was about 17, and I'd like to think I'd be locked in with Him ever since, trying to follow His trail for my life. I got married at age 21.

We have four kids now, been married over 30 years, and the Lord has really blessed our family. But one color that I would add to my testimony is that, like many Christians, I wasn't sure what to do with the Genesis account.

I didn't know if it was myth or allegory or which parts should be interpreted in which way. A literal history or kind of allegorical. Until about 13 years ago or so, I heard a talk about dinosaurs and man, and I went to the talk as a skeptic.

I just couldn't believe that they would let someone in church who would actually have that perspective that dinosaurs lived recently. But after I attended the talk, I was so shocked by this guy's evidence, and he had lots of it.

He had theological arguments for it, and he had science evidence for it. I took about the next 90 days of my life. I bought thousands of dollars' worth of books and DVDs, and I researched that topic specifically, Noah's Flood and dinosaurs.

I flew to Montana. I flew to Canada. And about halfway through that research journey, I came to the overwhelming conclusion that Genesis is a real historical narrative. Dinosaurs did live recently, and they were wiped out in Noah's Flood.

And when I went through that experience, for me, it was like being born again, again. And my head and my heart were able to align, and all of the areas that were incongruent with my faith and all the doubts that I had vanished away as I came to Scripture with the humility of a child and just stood under the authority of Scripture and then realized and understood that Genesis is a real history book.

And for me, it was like a rejuvenating experience.

The Call to Make a Flood Film

Well, praise God. And now tell us about the circumstances that led you to the film that is going to be released in theaters later this month, coming up very shortly, actually, a couple of weeks, and also the companion book, The Ark and the Darkness, Unearthing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood.

Obviously, as you know, there are not only quite a number of Christian books about the creation story, about many of the stories in the Old Testament that tragically many in the professed church have written off as allegories and fables and myths, but there are still, thank God, quite a number of creationists who have written books, filling the volumes or filling the space on our library shelves.

We've become very acquainted with many of these brethren who are not only creationists but young earth creationists and not only individuals but quite a number of ministries and organizations who are proclaiming the truth of a young earth.

And so what dawned on you that said, you know something, in spite of all the information that we already have, I need to pursue this film and book?

You know, that is such a great question, and it really gives us an insight into some nuances of theology that I trust your listeners will follow with this. But I believe I was called to do this movie in both a general way and in a specific way.

In a general way, the Lord really, you know, we've all heard the statement, Lord, break my heart for what breaks yours. And when I converted into a creationist about 12 years ago, I attended my son's back-to-school night for seventh grade, back to school at a public school here in California.

And the teacher proceeded to explain how, look, she said, I don't want to offend you if you're Jewish or Catholic or Christian, but we have to teach evolution here in school as part of the state-required curriculum.

But don't worry about it. It's just a couple of weeks and it's not a big deal. And as she was saying that, I was looking at her bookshelf, and she had book after book on evolution. And I was reflecting about how my son said, well, Dad, all the Christians in her class, in this world history class, are just being formatted like hard drives.

They're writing down all the notes. They're doing all the exercises and they're clueless as to the lie that they're being taught in this school about evolution. I got so sick when I was at that school presentation because God opened my eyes to this treacherous thing that was happening to Christians that I had to walk home.

I just went up and said to my wife, hey, I'm not feeling well. I had to walk home. And so my heart was broken that night for just mourning for the millions of students across America that are being taught a lie.

And they're being taught not only a lie about evolution, they're also being taught that the Bible is not true. And so that began the journey of our ministry. And when we opened the doors for our ministry, it came out of that.

But then specifically, about two and a half years ago, I had been speaking a lot about Noah's Flood and dinosaurs. And it was a topic that I was very engaged with. And I was speaking about it a lot. So it was something that was on my forefront of my mind.

And I enjoyed the topic. And we had done a video about it that was on YouTube. But about two and a half years ago, something happened in my life where within a two-month period, I had four major life events happen to me.

I became an empty nester as my last kids went off to college. And that had an emotional hit on me. I lost my brother from liver disease. He passed away. My mother's cancer came back full-fledged, and she started developing tumors behind her eyes.

And I had a really bad case of COVID. And it was in that dark period of two months when those four things hit me at the same time that I don't know any other way to say it, but the Lord commissioned me to do this flood film.

I had all kinds of things happen in my life, and I won't get into the details because Christians sometimes get a little bit spooked when you say that God can break in and give you assignments. But I have to honestly say that the Lord broke into my life and using the means that only God can do, he made it very clear to me that he wanted me to do this movie.

And so I joined with my associate, Ralph Stren, from Sevenfold Films, who is equally passionate about the flood and had just done an award-winning movie on the creation account. And we began this journey together, and we've poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into it in two and a half years and thousands of hours collectively into this project, and it's coming out to theaters on March 20th and 21st.

Evolution, Darwinism, and the Collapse of a Materialist Worldview

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One thing that I would like to ask you, do you see any evidence at all of representatives of the scientific world, the scientific realm, where even those that do not share our belief in the inerrancy of scriptures, they may not be Christians, they may be nominal Christians, or they may be members of different religions, or perhaps they're atheists, agnostics, as many scientists are.

Do you see any significant move away from Darwinian evolution?

The short answer to that is yes. In fact, there is a website, I believe it's called Darwin Dissenters, where over a thousand Ph .D. level scientists have given their dissent from Darwin's ideas. So I think there's two things happening right now in science that are absolutely, well, let me add, make it three things happening in science that are absolutely making the death kneel to evolution theory.

The first would be, scientists have now really highlighted and come to grips with the fact that they can't answer the most basic and fundamental question to evolution, which is how did non-living matter become alive?

That's become to the forefront. There are molecular engineers and scientists and organic chemists that are going crazy trying to answer this question right now, and they can't do it, and that's because it's an unanswerable question, because the Bible's very clear.

God did it, and it takes a supernatural miracle to do that. The second thing is that scientists are now understanding what's called epigenetics, which is a system that we have pre-programmed in our DNA, in our gene code, that allows each animal kind, for example, finches or many other different types of animals, to continuously read and track their environment and make adaptations and changes to fit the environment in which they live.

For example, just recently a study came out where they studied over 1 ,000 of Darwin's finches, one of the finch species that Darwin used to espouse his theory of evolution. They tracked 1 ,000 of them and realized that in just one generation, they can seriously modify their beak shape and size and their feet morphology based upon their diet and their environment in one single generation.

So that finding alone really debunks Darwin's core ideas that evolution happens over millions of years and animals can vertically evolve from one creature to the other because all they're allowed to do, really, is change within their kind.

And I think the third death kneel that they can't do anything about is dinosaur soft tissue. If you were to rewind the history reels just 50 years, and I'm not kidding when I say this, it's going to sound provocative and extreme, but I can back this statement up with mounds of scholarly articles and evidence.

But 50 years ago, here's a statement, 100 of trained, qualified paleontologists would have said that dinosaur bones are fossilized, hardened, permineralized rocks that are impressions of what used to be bones, but they're now just rocks.

100 of paleontologists would have said that 50 years ago.

Even Young Earth paleontologists would have said that? I'm assuming there were some.

Certainly not those, but secular paleontologists would definitely have said that. But clearly the leading prevailing thought in paleontology was that these fossils are just rocks. But now what do we have?

In 2024, and again, here's an emphatic statement, zero of 100 secular trained paleontologists can now make that statement by their own admission, by their own science journals. Without even referencing a single creationist journal, 100 out of 100 paleontologists now have to admit, based upon 122 peer-reviewed science journals and secular publications, that dinosaur bones have 16 different varieties of bio-organic tissues still in them that shouldn't be there if they're millions of years old,.

But they are.

And it's an ironclad case for both creation and the recent demise in the Flood, and it completely debunks the idea that they lived millions of years ago.

Now, although I am very opposed, very aggressively so, to the woke movement and the cancel culture and all that kind of thing in that realm of leftist ideology, I am shocked that still, to my knowledge, none of these folks, or at least none of the folks that I'm aware of in the limelight, unless you could correct me, have brought up the fact that Charles Darwin was clearly a racist and what a lot of people don't know, and it really is frustrating when you hear sometimes on talk shows a dialogue and a disagreement between a liberal and a conservative, perhaps even a conservative Christian, over the issue of evolution.

A lot of times the conservatives don't even bring up this fact that Darwin's book, On the Origin of the Species, it was originally titled, the full title is, or was, On the Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life.

And Hitler and the Nazis made great use of this false science, this fake science and so on. Have you heard about any significant number of people starting to rise up and saying, wait a minute, this stuff that we take for granted as fact, this Darwinian evolution stuff, it's not even a theory in most people's minds when they're talking about it in documentaries and so on,.

It's a fact.

Is there a significant number or any number of people that you're aware of who are starting to reveal or unveil the fact that this is actually rooted in racism?

You know, yes to both. And the good news is that website I mentioned is called descentfromdarwin .org and the title of the website is just called A Scientific Descent from Darwinism. And it's over a thousand scientists who actually have given their video testimony that they no longer believe in Darwin's theory of evolution.

Isn't that incredible?

Oh, yeah.

And when you go back and look at Darwin's original work, not only did he teach from a racist standpoint,.

I mean, again,.

Just look at the title of his book as you just mentioned. You know, not only is that true, but if you go back, his works were deeply rooted in the Nazi movement. A colleague of mine, Dr. Jerry Bergman, who has several PhDs, a brilliant guy.

I think he's even in Mensa. He wrote a book connecting Darwinism to the Nazi movement and it's really undeniable. From a scholarly perspective, the seeds and the DNA that infused the Nazi movement was based on Darwin's ideas.

So it is a scary thing, but sadly, a lot of scientists today, they just try to shuck that underneath the rug there and just focus on, well, his ideas were balanced scientifically and they try to filter out the racist concepts, but they were very much racist ideologies.

By the way, I have interviewed Dr. Jerry Bergman and you just reminded me I've got to get him back in the program because it's been eight, no, let's see, how many years? It's been seven years since I've had him on the program, almost seven years to the day.

I had him on in April of 2017, so I've got to try to get him back on the program. If anybody wants to look up that interview that we did on how Darwinism corrodes morality, you could just type in Bergman in the search engine at www .ironsherpensirenradio .com B as in boy, E-R-G-M-A-N and you will see that interview pop up immediately.

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The Ark and the Darkness Unearthing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood and we do have some listener questions for you already. We have Lou from Sharpsburg, Georgia. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Why do Christians like Gavin Ortland and others claim Noah's Flood was only a local flood when the Bible was so clear that every high hill under the heavens was covered up to 18 cubits?

Thanks. That's disappointing to hear that Gavin has that view. He has written some wonderful things, especially devotionals and so on. Are you aware of this view of Gavin Ortland's or do you want to just respond in general to Old Earth creationists arguments about a local flood rather than global?

Yes, certainly.

I think.

I'm not aware of Gavin's view specifically. However, it is a widely held perspective amongst Old Earth creationists that the flood was local. We, of course, disagree for two sets of reasons. The first would be a theological, biblical reason and the second would be a scientific reason.

Let's start with the lesser of those two, which is the scientific reason. I think for a person like myself or anyone else who's got some time invested in studying the flood, on the creationist perspective, it's not just moderately persuasive.

It's overwhelmingly convincing that the flood was worldwide in nature.

I think the two.

Most key evidences for that would be the large packages of strata and sedimentary layers that are across continents. In America, there are the same packages of strata that cover several states and some of those large packages will even go across multiple continents.

So that would be.

The first set of reasons. The other reason would be that we have Dr. Tim Cleary from the Institute for Creation Research has exhaustively studied 1 ,800 oil core boreholes around the world and can clearly establish that there are six different what are called SLOSS S-L-O-S-S megasequences that are all around the world that are correlated that show that there were in fact six stages to the inundation of Noah's flood.

So those are two of the big geological reasons. I think I would add a paleontological reason with that.

Which would be.

The fossil record is expansive and it's also correlated. We can put the continents back together, match them back together and we can see the same types of creatures and plants on matching sides or edges of the continents when they put them back together so we know that the flood rapidly spread them apart.

Theologically is of course the higher level to go to. And I think the reason that the flood had to be worldwide from a theological perspective is first the biblical script is not just somewhat clear it's exhaustively clear that the flood was worldwide.

You have the passage.

Of scripture.

That your listener mentioned it's actually 15 cubits not 18 cubits but 15 cubits. The water span over the highest hills by 15 cubits which is at least 22 feet. So why would God give us that clear hint in scripture that the water prevailed over the highest hills all over the world.

And then secondly there's not just a dozen or two there's 60 different all-encompassing words used in the Genesis account like all the creatures are going to die everything under heaven is going to be judged.

And then I think you have the other interesting thing where the reason for the flood is God said.

Look.

All of man's thoughts in his heart are evil continually and that was the driving reason that God sent the flood. He says for that reason I'm going to flush it. I'm going to hit the reset button. God says I will destroy them with the earth.

So God says.

I'm going to use the earth as a tool to recycle these bad humans. And he judges the entire earth. So you can't have the flood be a local judgment for a local group of people to say yeah well these people in this region they're really bad and so it's going to be a hard day for those guys I'm going to wipe them all out.