Jordan — Robert B. Thompson

The New Thing After Pentecost

Lord, as we come unto you tonight, we praise and rejoice, Lord, because of your goodness to us, Lord. You're so good to us. You're so good to us. And Lord, we know that we're entering into your plans, Lord, not ours, nothing we made up.

We don't have any model of interpretation going, but into what you're doing today, and we're merely trying to interpret it and bear witness to it. It's what you're doing. It's worldwide. It involves a lot of people.

It'll probably go all the way through the thousand-year kingdom age. So, Lord, help us to get it right and to wait upon you constantly, that everything that's said and done and perceived will be of you.

Help us tonight. Keep your hands on our families. Give us clear minds and spirits. We pray for everyone the spirit of revelation and wisdom in the knowledge of Jesus. Thank you for it, Lord. Amen. Now, we were at a meeting today, and I would say no one in the room other than Stan and Lisa and Audrey and I and possibly a couple of the pastors that get our monthly mailer have any inkling of what comes after Pentecost.

And if someone hits you with that in the days to come, and they said, well, what do you mean a new thing? God's doing a new thing. Hold your sack. You better have scripture to back up what you're going to say, too, you know?

Not any floozy answers, like something wonderful is on the horizon. We know that. But outside of the blessing of God, which is coming to every church that prays for it, it seems, if he said, yeah, yeah, we teach something past Pentecost, oh, yeah, we're way past that.

Precisely what? See what we can do about that. Let's turn to the first chapter of the book of Joshua. Yep, sat in a meeting today. I didn't hear any war songs. That perturbed me. That perturbed me. More about beautiful Jesus.

Whatever salvation is, it's not beautiful. It says about Jesus, he's not beautiful, Isaiah 53. I've about had all I can stand of beautiful Jesus and how beautiful it is. Whatever you want to say about circumcision, it's not beautiful.

Everything else God does. Joshua 1, now it came about after the death of Moses, the servant of the Lord. What does that tell us? Put yourself in the Jews' place. What are we saying here? Awesome, awesome, awesome change.

Joshua, Moses, and the Meaning of Change

Awesome change, awesome change. How many know how much people enjoy change? They may grumble for 40 years, but that doesn't mean they want anything changed. They just like to grumble. But that doesn't mean they want anything to happen to Moses.

It tells us that change comes in the kingdom and change is here. Change is here now. You can take Moses, you can prop him up as the Jews do today. They're trying to make him live after Christ has come and gone, so to speak.

Messiah has come and gone. They're still trying to work with Moses. They don't give up easily. The Jews don't. And by and large, people don't either. Change is hard for people. It was hard for them. One thing you can say to people is that the book of Joshua tells us that change comes.

How was Joshua different from Moses? In what other ways was he different? What vocation did Moses have that Joshua never had? Now, Joshua never was a shepherd. He never was a shepherd. What was permitted to Joshua that was not permitted to Moses?

Entering the land of promise. Moses was not permitted to enter in. What did Moses do that Joshua did not do in his contribution? What is Moses known for? I remember one time looking out by Biola in Los Angeles, by the public library there.

They had great teachers. And on there they had Confucius and I don't know who else. Moses was up there. Great teachers of mankind. I suppose still up there in the Fresco or whatever you call the public library in LA.

It's a great teacher. What's Joshua noted for? Who studies Joshua? War colleges. Yeah, I read that. That wasn't a religious book either. It was somewhere in a paper or something. They study Joshua to study strategy and tactics.

I'll tell you who else studied Joshua. I was reading one time about the gangs in New York. And they study Caesar. They study Joshua. Yeah, they take them, the lords of Brooklyn and wherever. They take themselves very seriously.

They study strategy. That's a fact. These guys are not dumb just because they go around, shoot up the countryside and hate civilization it seems. But they were smart enough to study war tactics. Some things to learn about ambush and different things.

Well, anyway, that's a fact. I didn't make it up. It's a fact. Both those things are true. So Joshua, now, could we say to a Christian that had confronted us with this, do you believe that the Old Testament has anything to do with the New?

Could we ask them that question? How can that be answered? Does anyone remember? We brought the scripture. First Corinthians? Chapter 10. What verse? I think three or four. No, it's not three. For sure.

This is important. Otherwise, what are we doing back in Joshua? Somebody read it in loud, clear, bell-like tones from the diaphragm.

I said to them, for example, who is there? The Old Testament. People of the Old Testament. And they are written.

They are written for our admonition.

Everyone should ignore them. Go ahead.

The end of the world was here 2 ,000 years ago. How did those two go together?

We could do the same thing. Absolutely.

All right. So you would be able to tell from what verse? If we don't take heed. Okay. So we could say that the Bible has something in it that applies to us, upon whom the ends of the world have come. The ends of the age, actually.

What does it tell us? Now, here's where we get into the definition of what do you mean by a new thing? And why are you bellyaching about? Because there's no war songs. And everything's beautiful. What does it tell us?

The fact of the writing. These things were written. The writing of the book of Joshua is for us, upon whom the ends of the age have come. What does it tell us? What are some of it? It tells us, obviously, many things.

What are some of the things it tells us? It tells us there's a battle. It tells us there's going to be a battle. So we are not remiss in talking about war. Now, in connection with this battle, is this talking about people, using typology, is it talking about people at the beginning of salvation or toward the fulfillment?

Fulfillment, there's going to be what? It tells us there's going to be a war. Was there a war at the beginning of our salvation? Did we fight it? Who fought it? And people are still holding up, but he did it all.

You're completing him, but he did it all. Yes, at the beginning, he did it all. But when you come to the end, what's true? We have to fight to gain the objective. So that tells us that there's an objective that redemption is not open-ended.

It's going somewhere. There's a time when God's people will have to fight to get what God promised them when they were saved. Saved meaning in the sense of saved out of Egypt, saved out of the world. They haven't as yet gained salvation in the sense of Hebrews, the third chapter, by which you are saved, if you keep in mind.

Hebrews is talking about the land of promise, the rest. Joshua had given rest. He would not have spoken of another day. King James says, where is Joshua? Jesus and Joshua are very closely related in the Hebrew, same word, Yeshua.

Joshua is Yahashua, I think. All right, now, stop and think. Think, think, think. What were we saying? What, in terms of this journey, at what point did we start on this journey? At what point? No, no, that's not true, Paula.

That's not true, but that's all right. But I mean, in terms of this journey, what marked the beginning? Tacho, Pesach had a definite beginning. What was involved there? The blood of the Lamb. The blood of the Lamb was involved, okay?

Now, in that sense, we were saved from what? We were saved from Pharaoh's slavery, building treasure cities for Pharaoh. Ramses, they say, they believe it was what, Audrey? Ramses II, who was a great builder, a great builder who's still standing today.

They believe that Ramses, by they, I mean, we get the archaeological, what's the name of that? B-A-R, Biblical Archaeological Review, and the hot, the buzz now is that Ramses II was the Pharaoh of the Exodus.

So, they were saved from building treasure cities. Now, by and large, in typology, what does Egypt represent? The world. And as long as you're in the world, believe me, you're going to build treasure cities for Pharaoh.

It's getting now in corporations, if you hope to go up the top, you've got to become more than work eight hours a day. I mean, you've got to marry the thing. They want to know about your wife, what you wear, what kind of leather in your billfold, and everything.

I mean, you've got to marry that thing or forget about top management. That's true in some big corporations. And what are you building? You work day and night. If somebody could come up with a better computer environment than Windows, they would be a billionaire so many times over it isn't even funny.

That's why the brother there is this great tycoon, Gates. Gates is his name, isn't it? Gates, yeah. Bill Gates, DOS, and then Windows, always ahead of the game. Somebody could come up with a better environment than Windows, and it's classy, but it's got bugs in it, doesn't it, Mark?

General failure, general failure, reboot, general failure. But it's the best thing in town. But if someone could conceive of something better than Windows, all the buffs are in there, boy. And you know what he's building?

A treasure city. That's all it is. Hopefully when you got saved, you got saved out of that. Because if you brought up a system infinitely superior to Windows, every known program would work in it, Apple would work in it, everything would work in it, all the draw programs would work in it, everything you could imagine would work in it, and it was a home computer, it was on a PC, you would never have to worry about money anymore.

What did you accomplish? That's going to be used for pornographic, for the transmission of pornographic material. It's going to be used by wicked people as well as by righteous people. When the balance sheet comes in, you did not do one, this world is passing away, the systems of the future will make our present computers, analog, digital, serious, everything, it will be baby stuff, nothing at all.

Because the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden where? In Jesus Christ. So through the blood of the Lamb, God brought you out. Okay, there's hardly a decent Christian could disagree with that, whether they live it or not, they couldn't disagree.

But what they don't understand is, what's on the other end? That's what's new. What's on the other end? That's the buzz now in the spirit world. What's on the other end? The church does not know. It's been at Pentecost.

Pentecost, Sinai, and the Journey Toward Canaan

What does Pentecost stand for in this particular schema here, this particular type? What does Pentecost stand for? The giving of the law on Mount Sinai. The Holy Spirit is halfway between Egypt and where we're going.

Egypt represents getting saved out of the world. The Holy Spirit is our law. He represents the giving of the law on Sinai. That's where the church, that's as far as it is. We heard all about it this morning.

That's as far as where the church is. Now, this third thing. What if Egypt and the Passover means what it does, and Pentecost means what it does, what does this mean? That's the area of ignorance. That's how you begin to answer people.

This is what I mean. This was written for our admonition. This is what it means. It means that there's an enemy in our inheritance. Christians are unaware of it. They feel it was done on Calvary. But God did it in Egypt.

God smote the gods of Egypt. Yeah, but Egypt is not the land of promise. Raises the question that if this was written for our admonition, and if the enemy is in our land, the big question is, what does Canaan typify?

Which, of course, we talk about a great deal. What I'm asking in another way is, what is the goal of salvation? Oh, could I use the overhead now? I've got the neatest transparencies. All the technical wizards have rushed to my help.

Bob Porcelli and Markos. I have the most beautiful color transparencies there. And I can't show them because this thing is, as Bill said, it suffers from a disease called truncation. And it's great for him.

So everybody pray. We need an overhead. We need a screen. We need something that does not look slopped up, but it looks cool and nice. Because I've got the overheads right there. And it tells you what the goal of salvation is.

Okay, put a little tension in the situation. All right, now, what is the land of promise? What does it represent? And this is a biggie. There is a one Christian, 500 ,000 can answer that question. One over 500 ,000.

Divide one by 500 ,000 and you'll find out what percent of people understand what Canaan represents. If you don't believe me, go ask 500 ,000 people. And if you get one, then my ratio is incorrect, okay?

Yes, the rest of God. You wouldn't get that. You get that because you're in this church. But go ask your friends. Ask them what it means. They might come up with that. But then say, well, that's true.

We get that from Hebrew. But what is the rest of God? That's a big part of it.

And what scripture do you use for that? It's 1723. 1721 through 23. Wow. I thought the rest of God was when you finally made it. When you what? When you finally made it at the end. When you finish the warfare.

That's correct. That's what we're talking about.

Becoming one with God is that. We're not there yet. Have you had any points of tension in your life this week? Or have we all? We're not there yet. God is still working out things in our life. Is that right?

Does Adam get in the seat every once in a while? Huh? He's in there. He's alive. And you give him. And see, God keeps pushing the hot buttons. Keeps pushing the hot buttons. And when he does, Adam comes to light.

Speaks a few words. And then you have a chance to tell the Lord, this is wrong. I'm not living with this thing. See? The enemy in the land. That's the enemy in the land. Now let's think about it for a minute.

All right. So far we've said that Canaan. One of the things that Canaan represents. It represents many things. It represents our inheritance. Okay. Where we're going. Remember we said you're telling someone who asks you, what do you mean a new thing?

He went to the book of Joshua. He said, this is written, okay? And then say, by a new thing, we mean what Canaan represents. We're going to have to fight a battle to get. God did not save us to just come out of Egypt.

He did not save us to just come out of the world. He saved us to enter the land. But what is the land? Yes, Angela. Those are the two big goals. Now where's the second part found? Now this is extremely important.

What does that say?

That we all might come to the unity of Christ.

That's the land. Now there are a lot of Christians in the world. One in 500 ,000 that could give you that answer. It's brand new. It's brand new. This is why we're here. So we can say to people. And they'll say, are you there yet?

And what do you say? We have to be careful with that. Because some people say, well, you're just saying we should be like Jesus. Oh, I agree with that. So you're going to have to be sharper than that.

Because people do agree with that. But you see, what they're saying is, we all should be trying. See, we all should be trying to be like Jesus. And then you say, this that I'm talking about is as specific as getting saved out of Egypt.

It's as specific as the baptism. It's not just something you wander around. It is a program that the Holy Spirit is activating today. It is time for the church to press toward this goal, which is a church without spot or wrinkle, which is not true today by any means.

There are awesome problems in the churches. I speak what I do know. There are awesome problems in the Christian churches, in the Pentecostal churches, in the four square churches, in the assembly of God churches.

There are awesome problems right now. Things are acting out, see, because people have lost the momentum. They're not caring for the Spirit. And so they're kind of, now they're beginning to talk about how beautiful Jesus makes us have a beautiful life.

See, there's nothing going. They're settled at Sinai. And now they're occupied with the parade around the mountains. And they're used to that. When people get used to things, they begin to build institutions.

And, you know, you can buy this and buy that. And they're setting up balloon stands around Sinai. And God is saying, it's time now to move. And you've got to be able to tell people, just like getting saved or getting the baptism, this is what you do.

But more than that, you've got to be doing it yourself. So you can't tell someone how to get saved out of Egypt if you're not saved out of Egypt yourself. And you can't tell somebody how to get the baptism of the Spirit and speak in tongues if you don't speak in tongues yourself.

You can say you ought to do this, but that's not very convincing. Have you speak in tongues? No. Well, let's talk about the weather. Now, before you can point people to the program that develops after Pentecost, you have got to be experiencing it.

And you have got to know what you're talking about from the Scriptures. Because real problems come up. Stan was telling us about an incident in a class that he was in some years ago where a lady said, I feel convicted of sin.

And everybody got around and says, you can't because Jesus has done it. Something like that, Stan, went on. You remember that incident? Yeah. And they don't know. They say, now, talk about buzz terms.

Repentance is a buzz term now. But what the Holy Spirit is doing is bringing them into trumpets and that they have atonement and they don't understand what's going on. And that's your job. That's my job.

To say, this is what is happening to you. You've been past Pentecost. Now you're in the book of Joshua. You're in the book of Joshua now. Moses is dead. There's a new leadership. He's not a teacher. He's a warrior.

He thinks in terms of war, strategy, tactics. God has appeared to him as a man of war. He's into the 24th Psalm. Well, are you experiencing? Yes, I'm experiencing. Well, now tell me how you're experiencing.

God is showing me the areas of my personality that are not at rest in God. God is showing me the areas in my personality that are not in the image of Jesus. God is showing you that. So you go to heaven.

Has nothing to do with heaven. Heaven is not the land. That's hard to shake. The land is unity with God, oneness with God and God's image. That's the land. It has nothing to do with heaven. Heaven is not the land.

Heaven is where sin began. You know, I seriously doubt. I'm not sure whether adults can cope with that or not. I don't think the young people have any problem with it at all. I'm not sure adults can ever be able to cope.

Can we cope with that here? Can we cope? I mean, do we really grasp that? When someone says save to you, what does that mean? It's entering the rest of God. It isn't going anyplace. It has nothing to do with going anyplace.

That's couched in people's mind. If I'm endured to the end, I'll go to heaven when I die. It's almost inescapable. It's so much a part of our thinking that it may take a generation to change that. That's almost impossible.

See, the spirit realm is where sin began. That's also difficult for us to understand. But the problem, see, every other religion that I know of teaches that spirit is good and matter is evil. See, there were many religions in Rome, and when Constantine made Christianity popular, the churches absorbed a lot of stuff.

And one of the things the churches absorbed was that flesh is bad and spirit is good. That's very common in Eastern religions. In fact, the whole idea of the Buddhist religion, the whole idea is to escape, escape the world, escape it.

Pass into the nirvana, attain nirvana, attain the spirit. That's the backwards of Christianity. That's the backward. When God created the physical realm, he said it is very good. He didn't say it was very bad.

It's a source of evil. I hate it. It's ill. Just wait till you go to heaven. No, no, no. God had his belly full of spiritual sin long before the earth was ever created. And the spirit realm became chaotic, and it's chaotic to this day.

And it will continue to be chaotic until God tears down that thing at the hands of the church. The spirit realm will continue to be a mess. The spirit realm was a mess. And we were not created to go to heaven.

That was not God's purpose in creating man. God created man to govern, to govern everything, but particularly the earth. Remember in Revelation 5, thou hast made us kings, and we shall rule on the earth.

Humanity’s Calling to Rule the Earth

But what happened prior to the creation of the earth was rebellion. And rebellion is a civil war. It's against rulership. It is a contest over who's got the word of power, what they call today the bully pulpit.

See, that's the question. That was the question that Satan raised. I want to do this. I want to do this. And God, instead of destroying the whole lot of them, said, okay, I'll create rulers. I'll create a whole new class of rulers, but I want to prove them first.

Now until you understand that, you won't understand the kingdom of God or what's happening with you or the book of Joshua or anything else. It's a big cognitive leap. It's a big leap of the way you conceive of Christianity.

It's a big leap that what you were created for was to incarnate the throne of God, to extend it, and to make it visible. God was seen of angels. Remember that when Jesus came? He was seen of angels. God has become incarnate in Christ.

The incarnation of God is being formed in us. The incarnation is being formed in us, though we're in animal bodies. When this body is changed in accordance, if we be found worthy of the change in the body, or if we become competent and eligible for the first resurrection, see, if by any means I may attain, we may attain that by counting all things but garbage, that we may win Christ.

I'm telling you, this is not a shoo-in. This is God's best. It is the end of the age. It is the consummation of all things. It is the time of greatest spiritual danger and greatest spiritual opportunity now, today, our order, now, right now.

Believe it. And this is your one shot for eternity. It will never come up again. You will prove yourself now. You'll be called what you are. You'll be chosen what you probably are, or you wouldn't be here.

But you're going to have to be proven faithful, and you're going to have to be proven down to the last string, stringing nerve in your personality. You and I are going to have to be proven absolutely.

You can quail at that and say, I don't want it, and run home like it isn't on me. Or you can say, Lord, if that's what you said, I believe it, and I give glory to your name like Abraham, and I want it.

And that's my testimony. I want it. I don't care what it costs. I want it. God will have to take care of the cost part. I want it. And I will not talk myself out of it. And I want the world. I want it.

And it's here now. It's here for you. That's the way God works, you know. He puts out something, and it's there, like Christ walking in the street, or whatever God does, when he moves, boy, you better catch it when it's going by.

Because it comes by once. There's a window, and you go through that window, and when it closes, that doesn't mean God doesn't love us, or that we're not saved in the sense of going in the new age of righteousness or anything else.

But this thing, this leadership, this Gideon group, this thirst, this anointing, this ark, the covenant business, God has given us so many types. It's today. It's today. It's now. It's the firstfruits, and it's something within you bubbles up, and you say, yeah, that's for me.

You can have it. Or you can talk yourself out of it, or let someone else talk you out of it. In which case, you lose your crown. That's how you lose paradise. But what's at issue is crowns. Rulers. And that is your land.

That's what God made you for. To be his throne. That's why you're here today. God made you to be his throne. The throne of the Almighty God. And you are God's answer to Satan's rebellion. You are God's answer to that.

He rebelled when he had everything going for him. We're obeying God when we're hanging on by the skin of our teeth. God is saying to the angels, you see, you fell, you had everything, and look at the mess you made.

Look at those bits of mud down there. They're believing you. They've never been where you've been, Satan. They've never had the instruments created in them. They've never had all the glory and the joy and the peace and the beauty, and still they hang in there and say, God is true.

God is just. That's what's going on right now. That's what's going on right now. Could you explain that to someone? Could you tell them about the land if they said, what does Canaan mean? What do you mean it doesn't mean heaven?

How do you answer that? Do you have an answer? I want to answer now to the question I'm asking. Belinda?

Well, Moses was the deliverer. That's what the Jews considered him.

Yes. And Joshua was the privileged one to bring them in because of his faith. And the instructions were to be strong and courageous. And the fact that he had them, that means there was more work to be done.

Yes.

Yes. And how then could it be a type of heaven? See, that's the point. How could it be a type of heaven? Is there enemies in heaven? Are we going to enter heaven by circling the wall and going from one city and using this tactic?

And then is this how we're going to enter heaven? Are there enemies in heaven that we have to dispossess to get there? And that's logic and philosophy. Where in the Bible does it say that heaven is our goal?

See, that's the point. Where does it say that? But everybody, one woman wrote and said it's all through the Bible. It isn't anywhere in the Bible. But what you believe, that we're called to oneness with God, the marriage of the Lamb.

You've got Bible. That we're predestined to be in the image of Jesus. You've got Bible. But they have no Bible. You're saying the land of promise is to enter into the rest of God, meaning to be living in God and doing his perfect will.

You've got Bible. That's the rest. And there are enemies opposing us.

But they have no Bible. Kathy, obviously Moses is a type of Jesus.

And Joshua is a type of Jesus. In what way is Jesus changing? What to what? From a shepherd to a warrior. So we can expect change in the music. We can expect change in the minister. Lonnie? Yes. And? God.

And Jeremy? Yes. I mean, look. Moses is a type of God. A type of Christ. Well, I like it. I mean, I've heard that Elijah was a type of Christ. And Moses was a type of Christ. And why? Why are we talking about?

You've got to know this about types. I say about types, you look at them out of the corner of your eye. You can't take every detail of a type. They fall down. You can't build doctrine from types. All that types do is support something that's written in the New Testament.

And Moses appears as a type of Christ. And he's a great shepherd that led his people out of Egypt. But you can't take the fact that they fought over the wives that he married or any of the little details of his life or he had a mask on his face or anything else.

This is a type of Christ. And he'd be in trouble fast. So you always remember that about types. You don't get rigid with types. Now, why he was on the Mount of Transfiguration with Elijah is because he's in the spirit realm with Jesus, which shows us that people in the spirit realm are very much aware of what's going on in the earth.

And they're participating in it in some way. If not, the whole thing doesn't make any sense. If all the members of the body of Christ, beginning with Abel, are not all participating with us tonight and hearing what we're saying tonight, if the scripture isn't unfolding to them as it is to us here, the whole thing doesn't make any sense.

Because otherwise, we're saying a tiny, tiny fragment of the body of the Messiah is going to go on to the Feast of Tabernacles and the rest of the body is out of luck because they're dead. No, we stand on that in Peter that says they be judged after men as though they were in the flesh.

The whole body is going on together. And they were discussing with Christ his decease that he should accomplish at Jerusalem. But that's not the land of promise. Now, if Moses is in the kingdom, of course he is.

But his life, and the incidents of his life were written for our admonition. And they tell us something very important, that in the beginning, when they came out, he said, smite the rock. See, that's spoken about Christ, that he was smitten on the cross and the waters of eternal life come out.

But see, that rock followed them through the wilderness. And that rock was Christ, Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10. But when that happened again, much later, Moses remembered how it was in the beginning.

And God said, speak to the rock because Christ is not going to be crucified again. He's not going to be smitten. The rock is not going to be smitten again. And he just said, speak to it, speak to it. And Moses was trying to do the old thing.

And God said, you weren't listening, you weren't careful, you don't go to the land. Now that is a lesson to us. Don't try to smite the rock. We're getting up to going into the land of promise. Christ is changing from that form.

He's come now as a general. You remember it says in Hebrews, he was once offered for one offering. Now how does it go in Hebrews 10, the end of the chapter there, where it says, and as Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many, he shall appear the second time without sin.

Remember, without sin. So he took care of the sin once. And as Stan was bringing it out Sunday night, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. If you go out and sin willfully, God isn't going to crucify Christ again.

There's no more. God said, this is my best shot. It's over. We're not going to smite the rock again. This is a new ballgame, people. This is not the same stuff. We're talking now about the invasion of the earth.

Actually, if you want a place that is our land, it's the earth. Scripture, second time. Ask of me, and I'll give you the nations. And the farthest reaches of the earth, we are inheritors. And we are co-heirs of the nations, and the farthest reaches of the earth.

There's nothing, says nothing about inheriting heaven. So it's totally unscriptural. You've got all the scripture. If you start in on this tactic, I'm telling you, you've got a whole Bible. But I guess someone who's trying to say that Canaan represents heaven.

In no way is it a picture of heaven. In no way is it a picture. It's a picture of what God spoke concerning man. That he would be in God's image. He would be the son of God. He would be male and female.

God spoke that. And Satan, in his rebellion, came and occupied man. See, the first land of promise, the first fulfillment is our own personality. That's why it says, possess your soul. Possess your soul.

The first thing that we have to possess is ourself. That's where the battle is. See, that's why Satan accents the externals. Rapture, heaven, and all this. That doesn't get at the battle. The battle is in us.

We want peace with God, but we've got an enemy in there that says you can't have it. We want to be like Jesus, but there's an enemy in our land and our personality that says you can't do it. It's impossible.

Oh, I know what the rest is. Heaven. Hey, you missed the point entirely. That's not scriptural. Is there a heaven? Sure, there's a heaven where God, Jesus, and the angels are. That's not, and when we go there when we die, hopefully we'll go to a place of rest.

Although God has said to me several times in the last few years, you don't know anything about what's going to happen to you when you die, so occupy yourself with the present because you don't, it's going to be different from anything you imagine, so don't dwell on it.

He's told me that several times. You don't know anything about what it's going to be like. The things that, you know, one of the best visions we know is Rebecca Springer's Intramuros and Beyond the Veil.