The Problem with Feminism | Apologia Radio Highlight
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This is from our premiere webcast Apologia Radio. In this clip the crew is joined by John Lovell from Warrior Poet Society. They discuss feminisms impact and problems.
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- 00:00
- And yeah, so time -wise, I want to make sure we get this right to get John's more time talk about feminism. Yeah. That's where I was going to go next.
- 00:06
- Yeah. Yeah. That's a great transition. So I know you talked about on Sean, Sean show, like, and I think there are these two topics are obviously go hand in hand.
- 00:15
- You know, feminism is coming through the home there through the government schools and now it's infiltrating the church.
- 00:22
- And so I just wanted to hear you just preach on that for a minute, go off on that and we can kind of interact. Yeah. Why is feminism awful?
- 00:29
- I think it is destroying women by holding out a false ideal to shoot for so that you spend your youth utterly after vain ambitions that leave you completely hollow.
- 00:43
- It also destroys the family unit as well. It destroys men. It is a wrecking ball societally and to the family.
- 00:53
- Well, John, that first point you made there, I think is going to be critical because it's aiming at the people it's supposed to be serving the women in terms of it's well, it's destroying them in terms of what really is right for them before God, where there's real satisfaction, real wholeness, real joy.
- 01:11
- So John, what do you mean by that in terms of feminism hurting the women? I think you should expand on that because I think that's a good thing to take aim at because it pretends to be doing the opposite.
- 01:23
- My wife was caught up in this stuff. My wife was just, she was on her way to be a boss babe.
- 01:30
- She didn't need a man and she was strong and independent and she was, yeah, in school and leading all these clubs and working a job and getting a career and there's nothing wrong with those things.
- 01:46
- But what my wife found out is though she had these aspirations that were kind of handed off to her as the noble pursuits that women should aspire to, don't sell out and give up on your dreams and just be a, be a mom or a wife, you know, and then that, that's kind of the propaganda.
- 02:03
- It's almost like women would look down on you if you had such lowly expectations of yourself to just be a mom, really?
- 02:13
- And so it is swept up in the whole ether of society to sneer that any woman that would have that aspiration to be a wife and a mother.
- 02:23
- When the problem is, is once you hit about 30, 34 years old, that's all you'll actually want to do.
- 02:29
- And you're going to be scrambling to find a husband, somebody who will settle down and then pop out kids as fast as you can because you realize you have been working for the man doing your nine to five and you found that climbing that corporate ladder was absolutely hollow.
- 02:45
- You spent your best years and you didn't give them to a man who would love you unconditionally till death do you part and raising kids.
- 02:55
- Instead you went to a boss, a job and you work to beat and you're realizing, no, it's actually far, far more fulfilling to have a family.
- 03:07
- You know, you notice that that's think ahead of on your deathbed many, many years, but you won't care about the job.
- 03:13
- You'll just want to be surrounded by a bunch of grandkids and you'll want, you know, your old arthritic hand wrapped in the hand of your husband who's got real old beside you and y 'all have seen the world and you made some memories and it's been a really sweet ride, but it ended up being all along that you women were utterly lied to.
- 03:33
- Feminism is a fool's gold. The most important thing you could possibly do is raise a family, love a husband, and there is just such riches in that.
- 03:45
- I work a job. I have a really good job. I love my job. Warrior Poets Society is a really good deal, but the problem is, is even when
- 03:52
- I'm working my job as good as it is, I just want to be home with my family all the time, so I'm not saying something for a woman that, that isn't different than me.
- 04:00
- I go work and I make a living and I'm, I'm having impact around the world and so I am so grateful to God that I have my day job.
- 04:07
- That's great, but I, I want to be home all the time with my family.
- 04:12
- That's where the greatest joy comes from, uh, here on this earth.
- 04:18
- It's not, it's not bank account. It's certainly not. I want to be able to pay my bills, you know, but after that,
- 04:24
- I just want to be with the people I love most. I want to raise my sons and I want to slow dance with my wife through the years.
- 04:33
- That was amazing stuff. We're going to cut that out, but that's one of the greatest, one of the greatest Christian ads for women and mothers.
- 04:41
- Your point, Jeff, like every way that our society claims to love women is actually hating women. Yeah. Yeah. Like objectify them, turn them into a commodity, um, you know, uh, abort half a million little women per year.
- 04:55
- Um, just all the ways that we claim that we are working to help a certain people, like down to the point of like, let's erase the very concept of womanhood, but we're, but we're loving women as we do that.
- 05:09
- J .C. Ryle's book, Holiness, uh, if you haven't read it. I'm reading it right now. Read it.
- 05:14
- Funny you brought that up. Read it once a year. Read it once a year. J .C. Ryle, Holiness. Um, trust me, it'll kick your teeth in like you need every single year.
- 05:22
- He says at the beginning of that book, when he's talking about sin, he says, sin never comes to you in its truest color saying
- 05:27
- I'm your deadly enemy and I'm going to ruin you in hell forever. Sin comes to you like Judas with a kiss.
- 05:33
- And so much of this, uh, the, the feminism and the abortion rights and all of that.
- 05:41
- It's like Judas with a kiss, right? It's, it's the pretense of, I care about you. I care about the woman.
- 05:46
- And we're going to, so we're going to erase half a million women a year because we care about women or we care about women.
- 05:53
- And so we're going to take away this, this God ordained, beautiful design of the woman in terms of like a curse.
- 06:00
- Yeah. Treat it like a curse. It's like, you know, just the whole idea of like, oh, you just want to be a mom, just a mom, just raising the next generation's dragon slayers and the next generation's heroes and, and, and when warriors and, um, just a mom, that's just, it's insanity.
- 06:18
- Just a mom. Uh, one of the most noble callings in the history of humanity.
- 06:23
- Just a mom. Just making and raising immortal souls that will never die. Just a mom.
- 06:29
- Right. Um, yeah, it's, it's, it's wild. And let's be honest. I think, you know, always say like, well, where do we need to be corrected?
- 06:36
- Where should we get fixed? I think most of us, if you've, look, you've, you've been raised in this generation, you know, 70s, 80s, 90s kids, you know, now here we are, you're raised with the media influence, the indoctrination, the academic influence, and all of that.
- 06:50
- It's just in the culture. And we have to admit as Christians, many of us have thought exactly that way.
- 06:56
- We thought just like that. Like it's just a mom. It's just a wife. It's just, it's just a homemaker and, um, it's absolute fraud and it's a fiction and we need to put it under Jesus' feet as quickly as possible.
- 07:07
- So, so, so John, then just to kind of tag off that. So how has feminism or how is feminism affecting the church and, and as Christian men who love
- 07:19
- God and love our wives and our daughters, like how do we combat that then? So, um, one thing, a woman is incredibly ambitious now and, uh, there is a, there's an effect that it's had on men as well as women are praised and men are really, uh, deflated and defeated.
- 07:43
- Uh, there's been a role reversal and this happens in a lot of marriages. It's certainly happening in our churches as well as women are taking the helm of authority and men are just sitting back, nodding, wanting to offend anyone, uh, and, uh, just letting it happen.
- 07:58
- It's the sin of Adam passivity, uh, and, and letting our women take the reins.
- 08:03
- Uh, it is a sign of judgment on a people in the Bible when a woman is ruling over them.
- 08:11
- Say that again. I think of the book. Yeah. Say that again, John, because there's a lot of Christians that don't, don't actually know that or believe it.
- 08:17
- In the Bible, females ruling over a people is a sign of judgment.
- 08:24
- Yep. It literally, it, it, that's literally a quote from the Bible, but you can just look at the book of judges as well.
- 08:29
- Uh, my favorite is Deborah. She was the best of the judges. She was an amazing. And so I want to take nothing from Deborah, Deborah, you crushed it.
- 08:38
- Way to go. You were amazing. Uh, but the whole idea of it is, is God looked across Israel and says, you know, there's not a single man among you that's worth his salt.
- 08:48
- I'll have this gal do it. And she did a fantastic job. So I'm not taking anything from her, but it was a sign of judgment.
- 08:53
- It was an indictment against all Israel that there weren't any worthy men. That's right.
- 08:59
- Yep. Very true. Amen. Men are supposed to lead your, your built to lead and we're not.
- 09:06
- And so instead we're passively drifting into the background and women are running everything.
- 09:12
- And that is to their detriment as well as ours. But to John's point, I mean, Isaiah chapter three, uh, verse 12, my people infants are their oppressors and women rule over them.
- 09:23
- Like I mean, that's, that's a scripture right there. I mean, we're talking about, uh, infants and women, and this also applies to the political sphere as well.
- 09:34
- It's not just in the home, it's not just in the church, it's in the public square. Yeah. Like this is a sign of judgment.
- 09:39
- It is absolutely. And it's not that women aren't capable. Like Deborah showed herself to be a really, really capable leader.
- 09:48
- Uh, it's that, uh, yeah, the indictment is really against the men, men. Where are you? Stand up.
- 09:54
- Yeah. We're supposed to be leading. Jesus could have chosen anyone he wanted to be his key disciples and apostles.
- 10:00
- He chose 12 dudes, dudes, uh, you know, and that that's, who's going to carry the torch.
- 10:05
- That is a very uneven and sexist distribution. Where are all the way it should be six and six.
- 10:12
- Why isn't it? Uh, well, Jesus shares 12 dudes to be the foundation of his church.
- 10:19
- If he wanted to get some women in there, they were around, there were really qualified candidates. By the way, he chose men to lead.
- 10:25
- He chose Adam to lead. He chose men to lead their families. And we lead with this sacrificial and servant leadership as Jesus recognizing that all authority on heaven and earth had been given to him.
- 10:37
- He took out his outer garment, tighter on his waist, knelt down and washed it as disciples feet. So if any women are shaking their fists at the heaven right now saying, how dare you suggest that men should actually lead, understand the call for men to lead is, is in a sacrificial servant way.
- 10:53
- Meaning I'm going to put my wife up on a pedestal in a door her and cherish her, but the buck stops with me.
- 11:00
- And so she actually likes it that way. She was built to be the helper, not the leader.
- 11:06
- We make decisions together. Uh, we're going at it shoulder to shoulder and a complementarian aspect, but the buck does stop with me.
- 11:14
- I am the leader. She's not. Uh, so that's a great point too, because if you want to be the man, if you want to be the head and absorb this concept, you die first.
- 11:23
- You die first and your life should be harder than your wife's. You are built strong for a reason.
- 11:30
- Use your strength to make your wife's life easier than your own. And then don't remind her of it.
- 11:36
- Love keeps no record of wrongs. You have like, nope, long suffer, brother. That is what you're built to be a dude.
- 11:41
- Carry heavy weights, you know, uh, support, cherish, adore your wife.