Episode 630: TLP 630: Advice Worth Giving

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It's not good enough to just blindly accept something. Sure, if we're blindly following truth, at least we're going in the right direction, but God wants us to understand and wisely know how to apply His truth, so that's why we must always be reading, meditating, studying, and using the Bible in our lives.

So let's begin. As parents, one could argue that we do nothing all day long other than give advice. Yes, of course, we laugh and play and mess around, but even then, advising of one sort or another will probably work itself in.

And though we might prefer to describe our parenting using biblical terms like teaching, reproving, correcting, training, admonishing, and the like, it could all legitimately be put under the category of advising.

Merriam-Webster defines advice simply as a recommendation regarding a decision or course of conduct, and they list counsel as a synonym. Since we know we can't actually make our kids submit to God, and since we know that God has put us into their lives to keep His truth ever before their eyes, advice givers is not a terrible way to describe parents.

But of course, the fact that we can't make our kids submit to God does not mean that we don't expect it and give consequences for failing to do it. I don't want to paint us as royal advisors whose hands are tied.

All that they can do is give advice and nothing else. That is a very wrong picture of biblical parenting. And I don't want to get lost in semantics today. We could have just as easily called today's show, counsel worth giving, truth worth teaching, or parenting worth parenting.

So moving on, we only have two main points today compared to our last 13-point episode. I'm sure that causes some of you to breathe a sigh of relief. We're going to look at the temptation to give secular advice and compare it with the necessity to give biblical advice.

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Foolish, Secular Advice. A. If there's a bad consequence, don't do it. The other side of this advice is, basically, if it feels good, do it. This advice is designed to avoid suffering. Now, generally, that's a good rule of thumb to not put oneself into dangerous situations.

The advice might be medical or financial or relational. But quite often, what sounds like good advice to avoid difficulty often leads us to an even more dangerous direction. One example is this, happy wife, happy life.

Nothing is more important than having a happy life, therefore, keep your wife happy. But since this advice is designed only to help us avoid that which is difficult, challenging, uncomfortable, or costly, it actually misses the mark in the following ways.

First, it intentionally or unintentionally assumes retribution theology. Like Job's friends, we assume that uncomfortable consequences occur because we've made bad choices and that blessing is always a consequence of making good choices.

However, this is legalism in its most pure form. It's a works-based religion that says all discomfort is bad, so we act in certain ways so God won't bring discomfort into our lives. This is both selfish and hedonistic.

Second, it tends to value the temporal over the internal. What if God in His eternal wisdom has told us men to wash our wives with the water of the Word so that we can present her spotless before the Father, like He did in Ephesians 5?

What if we, as her brother in Christ, need to love her by rebuking her sin, like He tells us all throughout the New Testament? Sure, in her flesh, that might not make her very quote-unquote happy, but the eternal responsibility needs to outweigh the temporal peace we might think we're experiencing.

Of course, I could go on and on about why this particular advice is immature, selfish, fleshly, and ultimately destructive, but we'll save that for another time. On our last episode, we cruised through a number of chapters in the book of Acts where Paul had been taken prisoner and was having to present a defense.

Well, prior to his incarceration, Paul received some advice. Let's consider Acts 21, 10 -12. In this passage, Paul has left Tyre and arrived in Caesarea, hoping to go to Jerusalem. And we read,. And as we were staying there for some days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea.

And coming to us, he took Paul's belt and bound his own feet and hands and said,. This is what the Holy Spirit says. In this way the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.

And when he had heard this, we, as well as all the local residents, began begging him not to go up to Jerusalem. These people were God-loving, well-intentioned, kind, selfless people. In fact, one of the people telling the story was the person who wrote the book of Acts, Luke himself.

But they interpreted Paul's being imprisoned as a reason for Paul to not do what Paul knew the Lord wanted him to do. This is why Paul responds in verses 13 -14 this way, What are you doing, crying and breaking my heart?

For I am ready not only to be bound, but even to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus. And since he would not be persuaded, we fell silent, saying, The will of the Lord be done. There are many things that we know we must do, but that will result in persecution.

But even if the advice is a practical suggestion, the motivation for the advice has to be the glory of God. It can't be just always check the door after you close it to make sure it's locked because someone might break into your house while you're away.

First, how many people justify obsessive behavior for that very reason? Obsessive behavior always erupts from self-worship, not from God-worship. Second, I need to lock the door to the glory of God just like I need to eat and drink to His glory.

Therefore, I need to do my best as an act of worship to Him. That's why I need to make sure the door gets locked. My friends, motivation matters more than anything else. When it comes to giving advice, the motivation matters more than the advice does, as long as the advice is godly.

That's why the second example is also very bad. Letter B, agreeing with our children's position simply to convince them we're on their side. This is doubly bad when the child's position is clearly wrong and foolish and sinful.

But it's also still bad if the only reason we're advising them to do something good is so that they'll like us more. The advice we give needs to glorify God and be a practical outworking of God's truth so that we're bringing our kids up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

In 2 Timothy 4 .3, Paul warns about people who will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions. We don't want to be one of those teachers simply tickling their self-worshipping ears.

It's not about trying to convince or manipulate our kids, it's about loving them enough to tell them the truth. Yes, they may hate you for giving them the advice they don't want to hear, but I need to tell you a personal story about this.

It's really important that you hear this because I see it happening so often. I used to work at a boys home for at-risk teens. Most of those guys wanted nothing to do with the truth I shared with them on a daily basis, but I can't tell you how many of them, years later, have reached back out to me and thanked me for loving them.

They've thanked me for telling them what they needed to hear. True love will always tell a person what's in God's best interest for them, but when we just say things so that people will like us more, we're basically lying to them.

We're not loving them, and that compounds over time. I cannot tell you how many parents I've seen break their backs to do all the things their kids want them to do and say all the things their kids want them to say, only for their children to hate them and use them as they get older.

Yes, kids can also hate their parents for telling them the truth, but we have God's promise that His word won't return void. Our manipulative lies have no such promise. In fact, God promises that it hurts Him, hurts us, and hurts others.

And the third most common form of bad parenting is letter C, providing our own opinion instead.

Of God's.

I don't need to spend a ton of time on this because we talk so often about it on this show. In fact, we talked about it on our last show. But if this is the only episode of ours you ever hear, you need to hear this point.

We absolutely need to ground all our actions, words, feelings, thoughts, desires, and beliefs in the inscripturated word of God. If someone came up to us at any moment of the day and asked, show me from the scriptures how what you're doing right now glorifies God, we should be able to.

The biggest reasons we can't show them from the Bible are that what we're doing doesn't glorify God, or one of the facets of what we're doing doesn't glorify God. Maybe it's the right what, but not the right how.

Perhaps it's the right what and how, but not the right why, the motivation. If this is a new idea to you, or you feel overwhelmed imagining how you're supposed to live this way, please listen to our Mearest Christianity series.

That series opens the Bible to help us understand the single most important element that needs to underlie all we do. Let me give one example of this before I move on. Let's say that your child is being bullied at school.

I'm sure you know what you think she should do, and I'm sure you know what pop culture would tell her to do, but do you know how God would have her respond? There are biblical reasons that she might need to tell an authority at some point.

There are biblical reasons she might need to be a little more long-suffering, but there are also biblical reasons she might need to physically defend herself. The details are going to matter, and there isn't a one-size-fits-all way of responding to a generic example.

But I can promise you that your daughter isn't allowed to be bitter, or sinfully angry, or fearful, or vengeful, or spiteful, or basically respond the way the world would. In fact, God would have her respond to the bullying with grace, mercy, love, joy, peace, gratitude, and contentment.

If you can't imagine how God would want this from your daughter in the face of a bully, please listen to Parenting Sorrowing Children. I dig even deeper into this topic on a one-hour counseling seminar called Counseling Sorrowing Children.

You can access that in the Evermind app in our Doctrine of Emotion content. And links to all these resources are in the description for you today. And any advice I would give my daughter in regard to her bully that's based in my feelings, a mama bear response, or secular advice is going to be devoid of spiritual power.

Even if the advice I give would come from the scriptures, if the motivation is any of the aforementioned reasons, my advice is bad. Now, there are other types of bad advice we could discuss, but these are the most common.

Now, let's consider number two, wise biblical advice. Letter A. Biblical wisdom dictates we do what God commands. I know this makes so much sense on the face, but practically, we have to grapple with the fact that this is absolutely not how we live most of the time.

Sure, we might not be murdering anyone with a gun or knife, and we may not be sleeping around, but God's expectations for us are so much deeper than those egregious, but admittedly simple sins. Acts 20 .22 -23 tells us that Paul knew exactly what he had to do.

He said, And now, behold, bound by the Spirit, I am on my way to Jerusalem, not knowing what will happen to me there, except that the Holy Spirit solemnly testifies to me in every city, saying that chains and afflictions await me.

His marching orders were clear. But though ours might not be as clear when it comes to job choices, we still have very obvious expectations on us. We must love our enemies. Love is to be patient and kind and humble and forgiving.

We must be gracious and merciful. And those words don't get to mean anything we want them to mean. The Bible is abundantly clear how grace and mercy are to be practiced in our lives. In case you're interested, we have two series on each of those characteristics, as well as a series on biblical family love.

But there's so much more. The Bible identifies over 650 unique sins. The New Testament has so many sanctification lists, and the vast majority of these characteristics are explained and illustrated in great detail in the pages of Scripture.

There's wisdom to be found for every single question someone may have, or in any situation one may find himself. So when your children have done a poor job on their chores, or they think they've been shot by Cupid, or they've gotten their first job, or it's time for vacation, there's biblical advice that must be given.

And yes, we have episodes and series about all of those topics. But what if following God isn't cool, or bound to cause people to reject us, or results in physical pain? Let her be. Biblical wisdom dictates we must obey God regardless of the consequences.

Jesus promises that there will be pain and persecution in this life. They hated Him, they're going to hate us. The kings rage against God, they will rage against us. In a world where people want to destroy the Bible and all Christians, we aren't going to be the cool kids.

But the blessing that comes from following Christ isn't always temporal. Yes, the Lord promises peace and joy and contentment and gratitude. He also promises to meet our needs and answer our prayers according to His will.

And He delights to give us good things, but we look for a future city, a spiritual realm where God will rule for all eternity. We're not living for this life, we're living for our Father and the joy of worshipping Him perfectly for all eternity in heaven.

And when things are difficult, there is no substitute for going to the Word of God for assurance of what He wants you to do and the comfort His truth provides. I mentioned the sorrowing children material earlier.

That material, as well as our suffering well content, is so helpful for finding joy and peace in the midst of difficulty. Letter C. Biblical wisdom dictates that we will have to reject others' advice.

People will give us foolish, secular advice. We can't accept it just to play nice. If it contradicts God's Word, we must reject it. People will give us poorly motivated, biblical-sounding advice. This too must be rejected because God requires that we do all to His glory, not simply following some legalistic requirements for our own best interest.

But, like in Paul's case, people may give us well-motivated, but biblically inaccurate advice. This may be because of a poor interpretation of Scripture. However, it may be an accurate interpretation, but a wrong application in the current situation.

This advice must also be rejected. We need this for ourselves, but our kids need to learn to do this the right way as well. The well-intentioned people in Paul's day lovingly wanted to protect Paul. They wanted to do this for his benefit, but also for the spreading of the gospel.

Paul had traveled much of the known world, leading people to Christ and helping them grow in Him. How could that work continue if Paul were in jail? But Paul knew what he had to do, and as well-meaning and wise-sounding as it was, Paul knew he had to go to Jerusalem and be imprisoned.

However, we have to be very careful on this point. Unlike Paul, we need to be wary of extra-biblical revelation. God had spoken directly to Paul. Paul wasn't basing his actions off interpretations of biblical texts.

God told him exactly what would happen. But God doesn't communicate with us like that in these days. We have the completed canon of Scripture. He does not communicate to us through dreams, signs, feelings, or impressions.

We absolutely need to be able to defend our behavior off a right interpretation and application of the Bible. Now, I'm not talking about the ever-popular versions of Christian mysticism. I wish I had the time to discuss it here today, but we don't.

Suffice it to say, you might want to know what God's will is for your life, so you randomly open your Bible to Acts and read about Paul's imprisonment. There is nothing in the Scriptures to teach us that that means you need to start a jail ministry or be imprisoned for the sake of the gospel.

That kind of biblical, quote-unquote, interpretation is subjective and dangerous and it's not rooted in Scripture. So, if someone comes to you who desperately wants to carefully interpret and apply the Scriptures in order to advise you in a God-glorifying course of action, you need to be prepared to have that conversation.

It doesn't matter if you dreamed something different the night before or you feel God would be pleased for you to leave your husband. Your children, or you, would be the fool in that situation. This is why letter D, biblical wisdom, dictates that we humbly accept biblical reproof.

Not only must we teach our kids to reject lies and the mostly truths that aren't truly founded in God's revealed will, but we must also teach them to humbly grapple with the Scriptures when they're reproved by someone with an open Bible.

John MacArthur once said, If you want to disagree with me, bring your Bible. When a mature believer comes to me with the Scriptures open, I need to be humble enough to consider their advice. Now, as we've already seen, the most well-intentioned get things wrong.

It's so easy for us to misread and misapply the Scriptures. I might be right and the one reproving me wrong, but they might be right and I'm wrong. How can we know? We need to be like the Bereans, to diligently read, study, meditate on, memorize, and apply the Scriptures.

We need to lean on those who have gone before. We need to faithfully interpret the text with the hermeneutic it demands. This is a huge work, one which requires the illumination of the Holy Spirit. It's nothing we can do by ourselves.

That's why we have to be humble and careful. The point is that advice may be given with full conviction that it's God's will and yet still may be wrong. We all need to be prepared to listen to others who contradict you with God's Word.

Don't be prideful. And finally, letter E, biblical wisdom dictates that we need to follow our own advice. If your advice to your kids is so valuable, why don't you follow it? It never ceases to amaze me the high standards to which we hold our kids in their sleep, work, food, clothes, friends, and entertainment, but we rarely give those concerns a second thought in our own lives.

That's hypocrisy. That also means that our quote-unquote good advice to them was pragmatic and a result of our own self-worship, likely. That makes that advice inherently bad and not Christ-honoring, no matter how good it may be on the outside.

And our kids see this. They have no desire to take the advice who you refuse for yourself. They have no wish to submit to a hypocrite. That doesn't make them right to disobey what is on the surface Christ-honoring advice, but it's a temptation we thrust before them and which we shouldn't.

Of course, our biggest motivation for taking our own biblical advice must not be so that our kids will respect us. It needs to be because God deserves it. We should work to worship Him and please Him and submit to Him for no other reason than He is our great God.

Our kids respecting us will simply be the icing on the cake. So our kids need advice worth giving. Stop tossing at them the self-worshiping, superficial, humanistic, manipulative drivel.

Of the world.

Instead, offer them the truth of Scripture, regardless of the consequences. Teach them to reject lies and yet remain humble enough to test all advice by the Word. And then if the advice you're offering your kids is worth giving, follow it yourself.

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