Who We Are, 1975 — Norman Grubb

Cooperation With God Rather Than Dependence

That where they challenge Him, the living Word imposes. But how does God know how to offer His life to God? God doesn't depend on God. It's God's. God can make very much higher than that, can't He? You see, what God's after is co-operation, co-worship, not co-dependence.

Why do you say co-dependence? It's just dependence. What God seeks isn't people to just hang on to Him, and You're my blessing, and You're my help, and You're my strength. There's co-blessing, co-help, and co-grace.

God sees my debt, I'm co-blessed by those. God sees my living water, I'm the living water by those. And so God's emperor, the Lamb, is God. So He says that God seeks the Pharisees. God, the Father, seeks the Pharisees, not the Son of Man.

While John 1 says, Surely I am the Pharisees, because the Father and the Son of Jesus Christ. Now Pharisees is leveling up. So if you just iron down here, you're up here. Pharisees, all Pharisees, are taking shit in it.

You know that? So what the right thought is to level up with Him. So God. So within, sharing His thought, operating along within, being the agent of God's peace, fulfilling His works of grace and power and love.

The Ascended Life and Union With Christ

Level up. That's top line. That's the ascended life. The ascended life, He says, the cross will never let Him behind. He can't through them. The ascended life is the season of death, the top line letter.

So He says, the season of death is God's power. He can't die fast today. He'll die, He said to His blood. But by the grace of the Lord, and He took Him at His right hand. High above. That's the season of death.

How about the devil? Well, there's no God but the devil. He's not sitting up there on the earth. He's got no power. He can give him power. He's very powerful. He can breathe in it. So if you believe in God and believe in the devil, where's the devil?

There's no place. I'm believing in the devil. If you believe in God, how about that? How about, how about, how about, the grace of the Lord? Seated with Him. Seated with Him. That's operated by the heavenly devil.

Seated with Him to heavenly places. Seated means the evening, the job, the day's job is done. I rest a little to get on with the evening job. Now, the day's job is Jesus Christ taking my feet upon His own body in the tree and delivering me from Satan and bringing me into resurrection life.

That's, that's, that's, that's the day's job done. It's got to be that way. Now, I'm seated. That's it. Now we can get on with the job together. From, from the, the feet and the toes we move out to reach the heart.

And the season is the letter. It's a letter by the way. It speaks about the imprisonment of the body. It gives the body hands. It grips with the body. So I'm talking about death. So then there's death, isn't it?

Then there's death. See our death is, we are sons, isn't it? We're sons. Now are we sons. And since we're sons, we're co-heirs. That's for them. Heirs of what? Co-heirs of Christ, heirs of what? The dead.

Co-Heirs of the Universe and Managers of Creation

The universe. We're heirs of the universe. So the Bible says the Father appointed the Son as the heir of all things. So the whole universe is His heirs. The Son and the Son. So we're co-inheritors of the universe.

It's not the inheritance. It's the excitement to get it. It's the responsibility to use it. It's the excitement to get it. It's the responsibility to use it. The whole universe is almost too much stuff to go out and be excited about.

It's exciting one day. It's the excitement to get it. It's the responsibility to use it. So we can be responsible to the heirs of the universe. We've got the lifetime of thousands of years. We're responsible for managing God's universe.

We're the owners of the rest of God's universe. We're God's co-managers. He doesn't know how to manage that box management. It was evident to me. We did co-manage. That's what I'm talking about. The whole thing is caused by the management of God's universe by God's love.

That's how He manages the universe. Love. Power. He's full of love. He's love. He's love. That's why He's the state manager. That's why He's good at the state office. Because the management people love themselves, not the government.

That's why. God's a father-lover, and nothing else. God's a father-lover, and nothing else. God exists with others. That's all He says. He exists to fulfill needs of others. How does He do that? He has no interest in self.

His only interest is to compete with other people and fulfill their needs. They have to fulfill their needs, only satisfy them. Only compete for your happiness. He satisfies. That's love. You exist for others.

You're a safe box, but you exist for those who are. The right safe box will make them leave. It's good for you. That's what I've done. It's good for me. As soon as you get power, you continue to possess the power.

That's what the people of the old days thought. We've reversed the order. It's all chaos. It's all about self, because it's based on self-interest itself. When the universe is based on self-giving itself, it's not a matter.

That's harmony. When the relationship, what can I do for you? That's harmony. And sex for you, what can I do for you? That's harmony. Just to remove the hindrance. I have no need for hindrance. The state is already in the mind.

It's there. When you see it's the universe itself, it's already harmonized out. The devil's already trapped himself. He's no longer the devil. It's still harmony when you see it. We're in the kingdom of heaven now when you see it.

It's all heaven when you see it. So you don't feel like heaven at this moment. Because you're too busy seeing the devil, so you're seeing God through the devil. What can I do? To harmonize. The one necessary basis is, therefore, that we be harmonized in terms if we're special to our Father.

Our Father is another. That's why He's called the Lamb. That's why the last title given to the living God in this life is the Lamb. There is a larger meaning for it. Almighty God the Lamb. There's some distance between the two.

Almighty God. Every part, every part, every aspect of the universe is this person except himself. It's an unending part. Because the whole universe is God except himself. He's free except the universe.

The whole thing is God except himself. Then the first of all. Almighty God. A Lamb. Much of God's culture. What does a Lamb mean? A Lamb is a symbol of God. It's the most heavenly little thing you can imagine.

You know if you have a Lamb and you keep it close, it hasn't got you. It's devilish. It's a little, little. I'll tell you a little plaything. You know what you like about a Lamb? It's a little, little plaything to your life.

It hasn't been there before. It's to you. It doesn't have to be a heavenly Lamb. It has to be a heavenly Lamb. It has to be a heavenly Lamb. It hasn't been there before. The heavenly Lamb is perfectly there.

He means to be God. So that's the point. He doesn't matter as long as he means to be God. That's on a Lamb. That's the beauty of life. As long as you complete the need of those for whom you have a responsibility.

That's love. That's God. So you and I are the same son. That's our basic motivation. You'll be the same. Life is universe. It's your community that's got the universe for you. You'll be the same because you're a vessel for which you're given responsibility.

If you're not there, it's not there for you. He's always in his destiny to be there. You're on the way. That's the way of God. That's love. So it's a God's purpose destiny. From the beginning. Before we started.

Before our people, before our nation was born. It's always been His purpose. From the first time we were born, we'll be His co-inheritors. We'll be co-inheritors. We'll be co-inheritors. We'll be brothers with His Son.

We'll all be one for brotherhood. He's Son. We're the brothers with the Son. And the co-inheritors, co-inheritors, co-inheritors will be co-inheritors. Operating as God, for God. To fulfill their destiny.

To fulfill their destiny. To be what we are now. Being what we are and operating as what we are. To fulfill their destiny. To be what we are now. Being what we are and operating as what we are. That's all.

The Son as the Revelation of the Father

So that's the fundamental purpose. That's why I am an operator. Because I'll instruct the children. What you've got. You've got to have who you are. What you are. How you operate. That's all. So if it's a community of persons, because a person can be the forefather, not God in the forefather, we in the forefather.

The power of man can be by the Son. Because it's an all-nature to life. A universal can only exist by a particular form. You can't know universal. You can't know electricity. You know it by form. Oh, there's electricity.

When it comes out of the form. Oh, there's electricity. That's power. That's electricity. You take that from the form to the ultimate power. And then you can operate in the ultimate power. Have you ever seen an atom?

Takes a long time to go and see an atom. It's all real. Oh, there's the atom. There's the atom. That's how it's in the form. Now I take that one. What's the power? I take that to the form of the power.

To operate on the power. If you try to choose the atom or something, that won't work. So the living person, the universe, is unfeasible except through His magnificent Son. He's unfeasible except through His own Son.

It's through the Son, you see, the Father. It's only when you have the Father, that you'll know what He's like. You'll know the Father. You'll know the Father. No one in the world knows He's the living Father except those who know the living Son.

And the magnificent Son, magnificent, introduces you to the living Father and you are in relationship with the Eternal One. In freedom and holiness and love and... perfection now. Living in the total flow of God now, you see, we are.

Suicide. And wisdom. So it means God will never be magnificent except by His Son. And the universe is never magnificent except by God. And where's the cause of God? So He knows His cause is being perfect.

You'll forever be yourself. You'll never change. Sorry for you. Sorry for other people. You won't. You'll never change. So make good of your funny self. Don't laugh at yourself. I hope other people don't hate you.

Of course you'll think God loves you. I don't know how He does. But we think so all the time. So think of yourself all the time. Tell the devil to make you laugh. And you can make the devil laugh. And God says, Jesus Christ took the mess out of you.

See, you're just nice. That's all. And God sees your life. He sees your life. When He sees your life, He sees the neighbor's life. You love the neighbor. You love yourself. So when we are full-time people, you are perfectly in the full-time.

God's relationship is by you. So I don't know how I function if I'm in the full-time. It's hard to do. The minute I'm in the TV seat, and He is known, and He operates, and He comes in the seat, it's by me.

I don't know what the by me is. I don't know. So there's a curse in the human history. It was a week in Tulum. A thousand years in one day. So you only live about ten minutes, you know. When you die, you only live about one hour.

If a thousand years in one day, you will be the last one. The last day, thirty-five years. Not to say more than that, that's how you live. You only live a few minutes for life. Well, in Tulum, it's not as important as Tulum, because it's parity.

It's exactly like Tulum. It's settling in and maturing, by which you can then go out and be yourself. It's only in Tulum. So in Tulum, by which you find yourself and be yourself. You've got to find yourself because you can be yourself.

And this is the human history by which you find yourself and be yourself. This is the universe. This is the meaning of God. Now, the story of stars, you always find contrasts, you always find contradictions.

Truth is that always related with opposites. And the story of stars, the story of stars has to be a negative star, not a positive star. So you can never, there can never be a positive star and a negative star.

And if you've got a negativity, you can't go to sleep. Because if you've got a negativity, you can't go to sleep. You can never know if something is good or bad. You couldn't have that thought kept in here, and it's got a hard framework.

You make the framework before it gets used. And if it's a negative thought, it's not wrong, it's just a negative framework which you don't see where it is. And the other framework, you put the thought there.

And then you've got a positive thought and a negative thought, and they relate with each other. And so could you, and so forth, but to you it will never be. The negative is very important. And to the negative.

You'll never know what part of that negative is. You couldn't know life without the non-life. It's because life has a far-left angle associated with life. It's like far-left non-life. You see that, or you wouldn't see it.

You wouldn't see life out there at the bottom of the moon. It's invisible. Waves bring it up against a non-life object, a negative object. It's far out of the negative. You can never know if it's right.

And you'll see the reflection of life through a non-life moon. Reflection of life through a non-life Earth. So you've got to know what part of the negative serves to make it far enough. And we're the negative, and God's the positive, so we don't know if it doesn't make it far enough for everybody.

So we start with the negative. And the recurring thing is we have to start by being wrong before we're right. We have to start by being wrong before we're right. God makes us to be wrong. He makes us to fall.

God's not cruel. I think he's pretty wise. I think he's got a fair amount of sense. I don't think he makes a great many mistakes. He knows his stuff, I think. And he makes us to fall. Why do I know he makes us fall?

Because he's right in front of us and he's falling as low as we are. That's upside down. He gets sinners first, then he gets the patrons, then he gets us sinners out. He gets the patrons first, then he gets the sinners to get saved.

That's upside down. Because God knows how low we are. What does it do? So he's right in front. And Paul is just trying to be a savior before he was saved. Before the foundation of the world he was Paul in front.

Paul gave him to be a land free. Paul is wrong. Because he's wrong, he had to go. Why is the world's world where he had to go? Because he had to go a long way before he was going to arrive. But we've seen the same thing.

None of the people have taken it that way. None of the people who have taken it that way have only taken it in ways that are sufficient. And if you first describe the wrong before you're saved in the right, you have to have not used a tool for a user.

A carpenter can take it if they have not used a tool for a good user. A doctor can take it if they have not used a wrong tool for a good user. Right? So you are in the trouble. And we pay for people's bills because they can't pay without having found out the right way.

So we pay for their bills not because we know there was not a spot. What do you do to pay for a doctor's office? We pay for the engineer if he knows how to make a receiver or a handle or something. Have you learned how not to make them?

Have you said, oh, it isn't that way, it's this way, it isn't that way, it's this way. So there is never a compass to do the known the wrong, the target, as I said, the known the wrong. Now, it can never be a compass itself until it is a wrong tool for the right.

See, all the world consists of this concept of negative optimism. We don't know the negative or the positive. And the wrong self is a self-loving self. The one thing about God is fixed as a self-giving self.

You and I become fixed. If you are born again you will never be fixed. When you are saved you are fixed. And in your day it's gone. Fixed, fixed, fixed, God is fixed. How can God be fixed? Because if you take in one word God is God.

In another word it says God can't lie. Now, what if you take capital saying God can't do anything? My God, no, He's almighty. What if you take capital saying God you can't do something? Hey, be careful what you say.

No, it's the same. Because He's God, you know. The Bible says He can't do something. Then I am obliged to say the Bible does. I just want to get into people's existence. God cannot lie. Cannot. Hey, do the job.

Say you shouldn't or shouldn't. God can't lie. I say can't because He can't lie. You know what I mean? He can't lie. You see, God's fixed. A fixed person is a person whom the three alternatives have been caught up by one of them have become that.

In a state you become fixed. In your state you've got liberty and you can't change. You become fixed to the doctor, fixed to the lawyer, fixed to the teacher, fixed to the husband. You can't change. Of course, for them you can change.

But generally, God's told you what to do. You say, I've got to be OK. I can tell the lawyer to change the anger and blood and pain. But what happens to others? That's where the liberty is. It's told that you can't change.

You can't change. You can't change. A liar is a self-lover. Get that point? If I lie, I lie to tell my and your truth. I don't care what happens to your ethics. I'm going to keep mine. A liar is a self-lover, a self-seeker, a self-killer.

It doesn't matter what happens to his ethics. God cannot be a self-lover, a self-sacrificer, a self-sacrificer, a self-seeker. He can only be another lover. He can only be you. He can be the guy who leads you or what he needs to do when he's going to help you if he's a guy.

In your state you're fixed. Now in God's state you're fixed in hundreds of contexts. In your state when you're fixed lover, to be a son of God, you can be a loved son, you can be a lover son. It's not that you're a healed son, you can be a son.

You may be the first healed to heal. You may be the first saved to save. You may be the first loved to love. You don't sit around you being loved and you being healed and you being saved. You sit around and another son comes up and says, I'm a healer, I'm a lover, I'm a savior, I'm a lover, but that's the life.

You're a saved son because you're a saved because people love you. You'll be beloved there. What do you mean? They will serve you and support you not to get yourself fixed or saved. In God's state there's a large family of saved sons and start getting saved down here.

Practice it down here and you'll save up there. Don't wait until you get up there. When we put the gospel to make you saved down here, make you a saved operating son on the fixed level now. Practice it, work it out now.

Work it out on the fixed level now. And so you have to talk the same thing the wrong way because it's the healthiest basis you can have. That's why God always is a devil. Whenever a devil is coming on, thank God he's not the other side of the devil.

He's the reverse side of God. That's why Jesus fights the devil. So there's a great piece, when ever you see a devil, thank God he's letting go on. He ever sees only sees the other devil coming and giving me one drop and I need to give him back.

I forgot. So you see, I'm saying the devil cries I think, God, you're the devil who's getting God's gas and he's not taking the blood. Imagine if God wouldn't need you. If we wouldn't need you, we wouldn't need you.

He's the God who hadn't intended that he would save you. He wouldn't appreciate the danger. So God, you're the devil who's getting the world wrong. When he's getting wrong and the trouble is wrong and God is disillusioned by it, then we have to cut that man again.

And God didn't care for people who have so gone the wrong way, so they're disqualified, so they cut down a long, long time ago. They cut down a long time ago. And God didn't care for people who gone the wrong way.

And God didn't for people gone the wrong way. I'm not saying that. This is God. Hopefully we can get Him love, get Him dissolution with Him love, and recognize the eternal love, eternal, eternal, eternal, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

And having seen that, having witnessed the ritual, having witnessed Him see it, having found Him a level of divinity, I'm not going back there again, thank you, I've been just very strong. The devil may tempt you to come to visit me.

He's not going to tempt you to live there again. All right, you're out. Thank God. So when it takes time to try to be withdrawn, I found the way into the light. Okay? And the way into the light, and that's what we've been reusing it.

You see, I really, I, we've changed it. It's a nice end, not a bad end. The first end is a fake. We've been hearing about that. We're a part of a family. People, like, there's a lot of people that pretend that anyone's not a family.

There's no family. We're a sex-class family in here. And so we can't be a sex family in here. Ever. And we're the same people. And we are fake. We're fake, not that we're so people. That's a false. So people, so people.

We're the same people. It's funny to not be different. If we hadn't got fake, we'd have been reproductive, so we wouldn't be there. But that's not a fake animal. We never would have been born. But thank God for the fake.

It's always an animal. It's isn't a bad, it's isn't a fake, it's always, it's used, it's not a fake. It's fake. He is a dying affectionate. He's dying of euthanasia. We are meant as his body, his face, and his bones.

He's a scientist. So he's been living, he's living here, he's living there. Fake is fake. It's through your emotions, your abilities. It's got to come. Fake is fake. It's only to teach you, you can think differently.

That's the fake people. So, as soon as, as soon as we look at it, we must have fake people. And so we're materialistic people, set up to take along things we see and touch and see and feel. You know what I mean, don't you?

See, nothing is your property. You are in a person. You are only what you are inside. You are only what you are inside. Nothing else is you. You are in that, you are a spirit. That's how you, that's how you are.

You are a spirit. That's how you operate your psyche. You don't operate your psyche because you're accepting other things as a fact. It's because of your heart. So why do you have to have that decision?

So why do you have to be that thing? So why are you under, it's a different thing. It's your knowing. And you're living in it because you have to let go of the knowing of accepting things. That's how we get saved.

And you operate as we, as a spiritual situation because you know how to do this. You then just know how to cope with what is going to happen. You know how not to cope and then you know how to cope with what is going to happen.

So we all know what's going to happen. We become part of this outer space dimension. That's the third atom. Jesus Christ is the last atom. He came to follow and take away a few things. He came to destroy the whole dimension.

He wiped out the whole space dimension, the whole human family. He is the anointing atom, the last atom, who will be the head of the true race. That's like the whole layer of paper before the top. There you go.

And he came to pick you out of a cessed atom, a cessed atom, and he filled you out with the materiality. That's all our trouble. Our problems in life are, what shall I do with this? What shall I do with that?

How shall I handle this? This, this, this, this. This could be. That's our trouble. Our health is making these. Our problems. How shall I handle these? He's hitting my spine. My disease. My problem. I mean it is by infatuation of some type, I guess.

He's loyal to infatuation, he gets the power of the tribe, that's all. But they must say, look, he's there. Do you know what I mean? So he's, that's the speciality. That's the speciality of him. Now, he is a spiritualist.

He's a person of the other, the true infatuation, the true infatuation, the plural one of whom are usually the other four. He's become cold-minded, instead of thought-minded. The thought is the letting go of cold-mindedness, because other people will tell you things in terms of noise, in terms of completion.

Everything. He's a pure infatuation. He just didn't feel. And I'm not joking. He is a spirit person in, he lives in the third dimension. The third dimension, I think, we are in the third dimension. Fourth dimension, third dimension.

Take me to that. He lives there. He lives as a spirit person. He doesn't let go. So he doesn't feel that. When you compare him with 5 ,000 nodes, you can say, well, you've got 5 ,000 people, you've got 5 nodes.

You've got 5 ,000 people, they've got 5 nodes. He doesn't see 5 nodes. He saw universal nodes. He lives in, in fact, in the universal sense, in the true state, which is universal thought, which is the living thought.

And as soon as I say universal thought, it's coming to the feeling of thought. And in that sense, the 5 ,000. That's operating on a spirit level, so the natural level of it operating, that's the purpose of it.

That's how we learn what's on Earth. That's how we learn to turn our consciousness into opportunities, our means to survive. Every means you have of consciousness is your touch of opportunity. So the Earth is, that's our contact opportunity, that's our need, that's our supply.

If Satan says, Lord, I really feel satisfied. I haven't got a job. Now I feel I've got this job. If you reverse that, I think I'll tell you. You reverse, it's not being a gaffer person. He's not being a gaffer person.

He's in a state of being in a gaffer position. So it's a computer thing. If you want your money, you can get a job in discussing a tax, getting a tax. Well, he says, okay, we should pay our taxes. Why do I want my money?

So he says, ladies and gentlemen, get a tax. You find a coin, you find it. And he finds four coins, he finds it. That's fine. He gets what he wants. He's where he is. And when he hasn't got his fix, and he's a little jazzy, he's a little jazzy.

He's a little jazzy. He saw a fish there. When he didn't see the fish, the fish turned up and got the net. This is natural living. Not supernatural. We're sub-natural. Matter level, that place there is sub-natural.

And natural is good. What we call supernatural. But he's in gravity. It's not that one. If you believe in gravity, you'll go up a water. You'll climb a mountain and jump into the water. And can you tell me, can you tell me, can you tell me, perhaps there's a fish?

I don't mind sitting on that thing. There are fish. They're just healthy fish. And I just don't have to believe. It's not a fish. It's a healthy fish. I believe in seeing heaven instead of seeing hell.

Seeing nether instead of seeing heaven. And you'll get that when you're practicing. That's not a fish. It's a healthy fish. And of course, can you tell me, can you tell me, oh, when I walk over those waves, you can't tell me it's a fish.

It's a fish. It's a fish. But you're not a fish. No one uses you. You have a lot more water than you have. And they're free, that's all. It is. It's absolutely free. Now Jesus Christ came to introduce a spirit connection as totally real connection.

So Jesus created a totally real connection. It's as if totally. And we make it real. It's perhaps the illusion that's causing it to make it real. The reality is universal God living as our own conscience in textual, in textual, in letter, in terms of the whole.

And they are, they are God, but they don't make man as a way, they don't do, they don't call him God. That's all. And that's what he gave by subjectivity. That's why, because the whole, the whole dimension, the whole dimension, here, is the subject.

Just think. That's what the humanity is. See, it's the subject. You are when you die what you are now. It's all, it's all, it's covered by the picture of subjectivity, too. Subjectivity, subjectivity.

It all happens, it's all. When you die, you're just going. You have to make that. Don't go ahead. It's all here, the picture of subjectivity and all. When you die, you're going. You can't make, you can't make the subjectivity of God.

You can't make the God. So you have to make that subject. When you die, you either have to make yourself, or you have to make yourself. You don't have to pick yourself up like a person does. You have to always trust yourself.

Because the hell itself is itself. It's driving you by yourself back down. There's no prison escape. There's no prison escape. And if you see it, if you see it as a, as a, as a, as a, as a remain, then you're held by your own resentment, not by anything.

That's what it is. And you're free when you see everything in God. When your prisons are in God's presence, your prisons are the law, and you're free in your presence. There's no field as heavy as this, no field as heavy as this, there's no opportunity.

Now the Jesus Christ came, so he came to wipe out this phase of materialistic sin. Some people kept that time, kept that time, it's done. He did it by being asked. Because he was God's son, the creator, he could have said, I'm not great, let me be you.

But I'm a Christian, he's great. So people would look at him and would say, I mean, he's just a Christian. So he's not anything like that. I'm in the law with the human family. But he might have all these types of enforcement and not be touched by God.

But he is you. So there's a great point to everything he's put out there. How do you prove that? Because that's what the devil's been saying. See, if you say a church will get sick, what church are you in?

If you're a deceiver, get sick. That's the law. Now a person who's a deceiver, he deceives me. That's why God's very merciful. He's a civilian. He's not a civilian. He's a civilian. He's a good thing.

And so God's more concerned about his business than our false presence. God's conjoined people. There's many people who get ignorance. We do this in the age of truth. The Bible talks about falsehood as any man may be ignorant.

That's a fact. You have to be an ignorant person to be an ignorant person. There isn't all that in other churches. There is a church, not all that in other churches. That's what God says. You can't have a devil with a fixed purpose.

And we don't. We're not all there on a fixed purpose. We're mixed up. There's devil's people. And we caught up in ignorance. And we see people as self-righteous. It's mainly they caught up in ignorance because they're ignorant.

That's the point. And so Satan deceives me. Satan deceives me. That's the point. He deceives the deceiver with his deceit. He's taught to deceive Jesus with charity. He doesn't deceive us. He deceives us.

He's taught to deceive Jesus with charity. And we cheat. We cheat and die. And we remain slaves. He missed the point. Come and join me. You don't get into that stuff that I love, do you? Don't buy into that stuff.

What's your problem? You're telling me it's preparation. You choose what you've got. You live to get a better one. You live to get a better one. Change. Change. All you have to do is move the body to a better one.

Change. Problem isn't the body. It's creation. Don't tell me. Don't tell me. That's the problem. It's your body. And when you go after it, it just leaves the body behind. You're still in it. You're still there.

All you have to do is say, Oh, yes, it's just a nature. Oh, nature. That's a nature. That's how Jesus was. That's how God's Son changed the whole of the nation. He made the destiny of the nation, which is the self-centered nation in hell.

He went there. So it says, He made the streets and streets invisible there. He says, I will not leave my soul in hell, because he's called hell. So there's all the way Satan can take us, as very well done.

But Satan couldn't hold that one, because he didn't talk to Satan. He's coming out. He's got the whole of the nation. He didn't say anything in the beginning. There are things out there in the beginning.

Did you notice? There are things out there. They're going to learn that it's Jesus. The whole world went out. You just haven't seen it yet. Salvation didn't get tackled in. He tackled down Jesus, and he discovered it.

That's all. There are things that are out there. You just can't say, Out! There are things that are hidden somewhere. You just can't say, In. The whole of the nation went out in Jesus Christ. And Satan didn't say anything.