Sin of the World — Leonard Ravenhill

Broken Families and the Church’s Lack of Brokenness

Divorce in the world, with the highest rate of illegitimate children in the world. Families are broken, homes are broken, bodies are broken, veins are broken, but the church isn't broken-hearted about it.

David’s Brokenness Over Sin

This man's broken about his own sin. But listen, he says, the bones which thou hast broken. Did you ever break a bone? I told you, I jumped out of a burning hotel in 1951 and landed on the sidewalk. I broke my back in three places, this left leg was in three pieces, both my feet were broken.

And at three o 'clock in the morning, I'm in the back alley, away there in Chicago. Fifteen degrees below zero, and I'm shaking like this, saying to myself, I'm 4 ,000 miles away from home, I can't live long like this.

A man comes round the corner and he looks and he says, what are you doing here? I thought he won't know if I tell him, playing tennis. He said, sir, I mean, what are you doing here? I said, you see that flame coming out?

I just jumped out of that window. He said, I don't believe you. I said, well, I do. Then he shared his American humour with me. He said, you can't stay here, a car may come round and you'll get hurt. Broken legs, broken back, broken feet.

I'm going to get hurt. Bring it. And then he said, listen, you can't stay here. I said, sir, I don't want to. So he put his hand under my back and his hand under my poor crippled legs and he lifted me and he put me in about two feet of snow.

I didn't know what to be refrigerated. And then I was in the snow, saying to myself, my darling wife, sit home with my three boys and there I am in a gutter, in snow, I can't see the top. And my bones, when he lifted me up, well, when I jumped out of the window, you know, I gritted my teeth and I bit my gum on the inside, it was all bloody.

And so by the time I went to hospital, I was smoke and blood. And this man picks me up and, you know, my bones were broken, I'll tell you what. You know when you put two electric things together and they sparkle.

Well, when my bones went like that, I thought of this psalm, the bones which thou hast broken, God broke them. Why did God break them? Because he insulted God. So God broke the bone of his peace. He broke the bone of his joy.

He broke the bone of every bone in him. Everything he had suddenly became nothing. Listen, King David, don't get too serious. Do you hear the people in the streets? Do you know you're just at the top of the church?

Do you know your number one psalm is number one? Your number two psalm, psalm 24, is going to live forever. And it's on the top of the church. Listen to the people in the streets. They're singing Saul has slain his thousands, but David his tens of thousands.

They sing about your victory. You've subdued the Philistines, you've terrified the Midianites. You're the most super man. Don't be worried that you just did a little indiscretion. That's what we say to him.

But he's got something tormenting him. God helps you preach as I pray for you young men. Don't fall into the rut American and Canadians and English evangelists have. Preach a month and don't make an altar call.

You make it too easy. Spurgeon said he had seven weeks of agonizing conviction. He wasn't a drunkard. He wasn't a moral leper. He wasn't a thief. He knew that he grieved God. And the greatest sin in the world is grieving God.

Your sin is this, you won't have Christ to rule over you. That's worse than adultery. I'm going to run my own life. You'll run into hell. And God wants to stop you. That's why he said, against thee the only abide sin.

Restoration of Joy Through Repentance

Now what does he say? Make me to hear joy and gladness that the bones which thou hast broken may rejoice. Martha darling, I don't know if you were in a meeting that night, that Wednesday night. There were about 50 people and I felt a burden to deliver my soul on Psalm 51 to a handful of people.

Why not? What do crowds mean? I've turned down three world conventions for next year. I've turned down three national video TV things across the nation. Why? Because folk don't want my message anyhow.

I'm not going to talk to folk that don't want it. We're stuck to the ears. We're so self-righteous we can't hear God. We're so satisfied. You preachers, I'm not a broken heart. Gabriel can find a tree you shed for the lost and he tried.

You've become a machine. You can recite your psalms. You can recite your sermons. You've done that so often you can do it in your sleep. But here is a man, the most awesome thing that can happen has happened to him.

God has forsaken him. And I said, if there's somebody here tonight, nearly everybody left the tent. There was a woman at the back. This sounds facetious. I don't mean it to be. She was about six feet two, dressed in black.

The ugliest woman I have ever seen. And I've traveled the world and I've seen some ugly women. Do you know how ugly she was? That woman couldn't have won a beauty competition on a crocodile farm. She staggered down the aisle and knelt at a little old bench we had and started to sob.

And I knelt at the side of her and I stayed and I stayed and I stayed. And finally, I said, Lady, I'm willing to stay all night if need be. What's your trouble? My trouble? Mr. Radner, you've no idea what that meeting meant to me tonight.

She said, 40 years ago, I was one of the leading officers in the Salvation Army. There were two of us, another lady and myself. We saw revival. We saw the drunkards saved. We saw the harlots saved. It was a joy to live.

We hardly got any rage. We were so poor. But oh, the joy when people came to the altar. When one woman says, listen, I haven't been with a man for a week and that's never happened in my life. I drank at Sodham Touch drink and I haven't beaten my wife.

And she said it was joy. And she said, one night I got angry. I chose the hymns for the meeting. And my co-partner came in and said, I've chosen them. Well, I'm going to have my way. You know, I'm having my way.

She had her way and I went home. And this is what she said. I took off my coat and I cut it up with the scissors. I took my straw hat and tore it up. I took off my skirt and I cut it into ribbons and put it on the open fire.

And when I got my skirt and all my clothes burning, I took my Bible and tore all the pages out of it and put them on and said, I'm through with it. There's nothing in it. And she said, this woman is just like anybody else, jealous and proud and selfish.

I've always to agree with her or submit. And she said, that's what I did that night. And she said, Mr. Ravenhill, listen. The moment I did that, the Holy Spirit of God left me. She said, I went to Salvation Army rallies.

I heard William Booth preach. One of his great sermons, he says, one with a footman and they have wearied thee. I was out doing the swelling of the Jordan. People went to the altar weeping. I didn't. I went to Colonel Railton or whatever he was.

And Railton was a hellfire. It didn't disturb me. She said, you'll never know till we get to heaven. What tonight meant to me. She said, for 40 years, I've never heard the voice of God. For 40 years, I've never had any joy.

It didn't matter what came in my life. I've had no joy. I've had no peace. I've been like a haunted animal. I remember I turned my back on God. I denied the blood. I tore up my Bible. And I gave away my life.

And she said, you know what it means to live for 40 years without joy? It's like living in a room without a window. I said, tonight, Mr. Ravenhill, the voice of God spoke to me. As soon as you read that scripture, restore unto me the joy of thy salvation.

She said, I said, Lord, please restore my joy. I know I can't get the years back I've wasted. But give me joy. Give me peace. Let me have that adoration I used to have for you. And she said, there at that moment, a miracle happened in my life.

It's just as though light came in. Warmth of God's love came in. His peace came in. And his joy came in. And she said, Mr. Ravenhill, I'll be like this forever. I stayed on in that church after the crusade.

You know, that woman never missed a meeting. We had a prayer meeting every Sunday morning at 7. And I went there one morning. She's standing up to her ankles in snow waiting for the prayer meeting. She got her passion restored.

She said, you know how many there are like me? All over our town, there are people who walk with God. Do you know what you do when you've no joy in the Lord? You take all the entertainment you can get.

Worldly Entertainment and Spiritual Emptiness

Whether it's in Canada or America, you turn the TV on. You've lost the joy of the Lord. So you watch people skate. You watch people fight. Like the other imbeciles around you. Why do people want your Christianity?

It doesn't satisfy you. You put a show on in the pulpit as though Christ is all in all. And you know he isn't. You're playing a double game. You're holding devout. Hey, you're as well in the next. You can roar.

Watching a hockey match. Somebody scores a goal. Somebody kicks a ball. You're screaming. You join the devil's crowd. Forget it. Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation. Joy and gladness are bonds which thou hast betrothed Mary.

Hiding Sin from God

Hide thy face. Have you noticed that? Hide thy face from my sins. Let me skip over here a minute before I come back to this. What does it say? Let me say it again. Hide thy face from my sins. Do you know who this man is?

He's the man that wrote the 23rd Psalm. He's the man that said if I go down to the valley of death. And I think the valley of the shadow of death, brother Ron, was when he went to meet Goliath. It looked as though it was all up.

But I don't care how fair nor evil God is with me. Now he says in Psalm 139. One of the most daring things said in scripture. In verse 23 he says, Search me, O God, and know my heart. Try me and know my thoughts.

And see if there be any wicked way in me. Isn't that something? Dare you open your heart tonight and say, Holy God, search my heart and know my thoughts. Search me, O God, and know my heart today. Search me and try me.

Search all my heart. The secret springs, the motives that control. The chambers where polluted things hold empire o 'er the soul. Search till thy fiery glance hath cast its light through all. And I by grace am brought at last before thy face to fall.

Search me, O God. Notice what it is saying. This Psalm. Hide thy face. Don't come any nearer. I'm already, my heart is lacerated. Dear soul, if you're miserable about your skin and back slanting tonight, you ought to be happy.

You should be the happiest person in the world that God has come to at last. You've had a closed Bible for so long. You've had a closed heart so long. You've not sat and rejoiced except in a meeting. You're a professional humbug.

Restore that joy. Put the song back in my heart. Let me know I have a relationship with the living God. Is there anything greater than that? But then it changes drastically. Go back to Psalm 51. Is there anything more horrible than this?

The Danger of Losing God’s Presence

Here is a man loaded with guilt and condemnation. What does it say? Cast me not away from thy presence. Take not thy Holy Spirit from me. That woman said in 40 years the Holy Spirit never spoke to her.

You say, oh, he won't leave you. Listen, he will. He left some of you long ago. You keep up the profession of clapping and going to church, and the Holy Ghost isn't there. Do you know what? The most dangerous thing in the world is to be in a meeting where the Holy Ghost is.

Do you know what he does? He convicts of sin, and it's like a burning iron. He stirs the conscience. He gets down to the memory. He begins to turn the pages back and show you all that stuff you hid away and nobody knows.

He says, hide thy face from my sins. Oh, God, don't come nearer in your purity. I'm polluted. Hide thy face from my sins. Blot out all my iniquities. Create in me a clean heart, oh God. And in your right spirit within me.

Verse 11, I'll read it again once. Cast me not away from thy presence. Take not thy Holy Spirit from me. Listen, how near the borderline are you? Look, suppose you die tonight and go to hell. Can you tell God you haven't had a chance?

How many times has he knocked on the door of your heart? Huh? What did Theo Monarch say? Oh, the bitter shame and sorrow that a time could ever be. When this vain heart proudly said, all of self and none of thee.

And then he says in the next stanza, less of self and more of thee. And finally he says, none of self and all of thee. What are you hanging on to? Are you going to die with peace and joy? Are you going to die?

And people say nice things over it. We tell the horrible things about people who are dead. We lie about them. We know they've gone to hell. We say insurance, certain hope of the resurrection to eternal life.

It's eternal life or it's eternal death. Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation. Uphold me with thy free spirit. Then will I teach transgressors thy ways. When? When I've been restored. When the joy is coming back.

When I'm not preaching a theology. I can preach out of my heart and say, listen. This unclean stable has been cleansed and God has come in himself. Deliver me from blood guiltiness. Now notice in this verse.

Oh God, thou God of my salvation. Notice what he says. Number one, my tongue. Next verse, open my lips. Next line, my mouth. My tongue, my lips, my mouth. This tremendous combination. What did we say last night about Isaiah?

What did he say? Bless everybody, said no Lord. Touch my lips. Why does this man say open my lips? Is he dumb? No he's not. But he knows good. It's no good testifying when his wife contradicts his lips.

It's no good saying be pure in heart. They say you're dirty skunk. You're dirty yourself. You're false. I believe the biggest plague in America and England tonight is hypocrisy. We're trying to keep up a facade.

We're trying to persuade ourselves we're totally spiritual. We know we're not. Most of us are trying to live on minimum spirituality. And expecting maximum blessings in eternity won't work. Open by my mouth.

Open my lips. And my mouth shall show forth thy praise. But listen. Dear friend, when God the Holy Ghost has come to you and shown you corruption and you've cried that great hymn of top ladies. A brother was saying he's going to sing at Keswick this weekend I think.

Did I ever preach at Keswick in England? No they wouldn't have me. I'm not a big shot. I preach at Keswick in Manchester. I preach at Keswick in London. And we went to Orange Grove. And there's a church like Westminster Abbey, a miniature.

It has beautiful Gothic windows and doors. Priceless stained glass windows. And they said now Mr. Rainer is going to speak. And I went and got over that pulpit like that and ripped it tight. Put my feet there.

Why? Because the pastor in that year's church used to be anyhow in the days of Wesley, top lady. He wrote Rock of Ages. Cleft for me, didn't he? Let me hide myself in thee. Let the water and the blood from thy riven side which flowed be of sin.

What? The double cure. Why do you say a man gets everything when he gets saved? He doesn't. Then you grumble about wretched hypocritical deacons. Well, we're not going to shift you totally like that till they die.

Dead in Sin and Dead to Sin

There are two kinds of people in the world. Not rich and poor. Not black and white. Not educated and illiterate. Just two. Those who are dead in sin and those who are dead to sin. Could you imagine going to Keswick next week or some other time or the Keswick in England and saying to that crowd that supports the intellectual rich and people from all over the world actually at Keswick in England.

And you go stand in front of them and say Well friends, I've got a wonderful text this morning. You're dead. Do you think they'll shout Hallelujah? Sure they wouldn't because they're dead. Is that what Paul says?

You're dead but your life is hid with Christ in God. You know there's a fashionable thing now the carnal Christian. That's a life from hell. Romans 7 says to be carnally minded is death. How can you be dead and alive at the same time?

People say I don't know whether I'm saved or not. If you were locked up in a room and chained to the wall and the room was totally black, no light and somebody came in and smashed the chain off the wall and put the light on.

Do you think he'd know? Didn't Jesus Christ come and turn you from darkness to light? If you were carrying a burden, a hundred weight on your back and somebody took it off, would you know? Sin is a burden.

What did Lady Macbeth say about the blood on her hands? This damn spot I think she says. All the perfumes of Arabia can't cleanse it. Listen, there's no place for salvation in any other religion in the world but Christianity.

This is where you can become a new creature. You may be in debt a billion times to God for his mercy and you're taking it for granted. But listen, maybe this is the last time God's going to speak to you.

What does he owe you? If you die like that and you're at the judgment seat and God says to me did you preach that message? Yes. Did you tell people all the record of their sin could be cast into the sea?

Yes, I did. Why didn't they do it? Because they love the world. They love the little trivialities of the world. But I'm telling you this listen friend if Jesus Christ cleanses that heart of yours and that conscience and he comes to abide by the Holy Spirit from that moment you haven't a minute of your own a penny of your own you're his you're bought with a price.

George Fox and Obedience to God

For some reason I was thinking about what I said last night that little mound of dirt opposite Wesley's chapel on City Road, London and there John Wesley's Wesley's mother's buried over the Lord. I think no, she's buried there and Isaac Watts is buried there.

There's a wonderful man called George Fox. How many have ever read the life of George Fox? He had all the gifts of the Spirit he didn't preach about them. He's a wonderful man of God. He was indwelt by the Spirit.

You better be walking with God. He'd come up and say hey brother I haven't seen you for two years. I see the spirit of a serpent in you lady, I haven't seen you for a year. I see the spirit of a fox in you.

I see the spirit of deception in you and it begins to tell you exactly what was there in your heart. He had a wonderful intimacy with God. He wore some leather breeches because he wore his breeches out travelling on horses.

It was going through Litchfield my dear Martha and I have been often and there's Litchfield with its twin towers. And he said when I got to the edge the Spirit of the Lord said to me son no friend he said because they were friends take off thy shoes from off thy feet.

And he said my feet were burning as though I had a fire in them. So I took off my shoes and I went to the hedge and I put them under the hedge and he said the Lord said lift up thy hands. I lifted up my hands.

He said walk through the main street and it was market day. There were cattle over here hogs and dogs and over here roots and fruits. And he walked down the middle with his hands up and cried at the top of his voice a war unto Litchfield our bloody city.

Are you prepared for that? I love thee for wearing the thorns on thy brow. Forget it put it into action. Go down the street tomorrow tomorrow night instead of going home to watch your lousy TV go and talk to the prostitutes.

Be sure they don't pull you their way. My daddy lived with dukes and lords and ladies. But when he got saved sat in the house he put rags on an old coat a beaten up old hat trousers that were torn. He stood outside the tavern.

When a man came out on his wobbly legs he put his arm in them and he took him in the basement and gave him coffee and sobered him up. My daddy was so enraptured with the fact he'd been delivered from the bondage of sin.

He could never pay back the debt of love he owed. Ok. So George Fox goes through the town. Every merchant looked up and said what's wrong with that? Oh that's that madman. He's a preacher. That's George Fox the Quaker.

George Fox says I went through town. It was hot and I felt terrible and joyful at the same time. And when I got to the end of the town I said Lord thank you for strength to do it. And the Lord said I'll give you more strength.

Walk back and do it again. So he said I walked back to the end of the town and every he says the butcher came to the door. The man in the apothecary otherwise a drug store. He came and all the people started jeering.

But I had a deep peace in my heart. I'd done the will of God. I don't know why I just cried thy brother's blood crieth. No what did I say? No he said the Lord said to me raise your hands and cry as you go through the city woe unto Litchfield our bloody city.

The next day he rode out on his horse. And when it came to supper time he saw a big house. The Quakers are very rich in England. And he went to the house and he said aye friend come in thou art welcome.

We shall have a meeting here tonight. But supper isn't ready yet. Would you like to go in the library? So he went to the library the big old leatherback books and he put his hand up and he just reached for the book like that and opened it.

And he opened it at Litchfield. And he said Lord what's this? Litchfield. And Lord said well you came through Litchfield yesterday. What did you do? He said I walked through with my hands in the air crying woe unto Litchfield our bloody city.

Woe unto Litchfield our bloody city. And you don't know why do you? No because on the very spot where you stood in the middle of that ground two hundred years ago two hundred Christians were martyred and their blood was crying through you.

The Church’s Responsibility to the Lost

If those young people you profess to lead you put your statistics out. They were born again. They weren't at the judgment. God will say their blood is crying to you. You never stayed till they got born.

You never stayed till they got assurance. You put them in a false hope. They've never had a they've never loved to pray. They never loved to read the word of God. They never loved to witness. They do it automatically because the church tells them.

Do you think George Fox ever forgot that experience? I've never forgotten it since I read it. All the blood shed on battlefields is going to cry to God for judgment. In the final day. Nobody is getting away with a single thing again.

I say do you wonder that this man comes with joy. God has restored unto me the joy of his salvation. He's touched my tongue he's touched my lips. He's purified me. I want to go out now and tell what great things the Lord has done in my life.

And that's what the world is waiting for. It isn't waiting for a new twist on theology. It's waiting to see people stand in the street and say listen. I was like you. I was as dirty as you are. I was as polluted as you are.

Or I was as self-righteous as you are. I went to church for years never cared who people are damned or not. But now I do. I'm not worried whether I sleep or not. You should say if I get one night's sleep a week I'm very happy.

I very seldom do I go to bed at 9 get up at 12 and pray next 2 or 3 hours. Usually my dear wife will come and say Len are you ok. Yes? Would you like some tea? So yes usually or in winter I don't have that.

I have some nice hot cup of soup you know. And stay up a bit longer. You know I'm like the old lady in England. She got up one night and she looked out and everybody in town was asleep. So she said I got up after that.

Always. I always pray she said between midnight and one o 'clock because God isn't as busy. Then she forgot. The other side of the world is waking up. Come on. Isn't it wonderful that God can take that twisted life of yours.

God can take that hideous record of sin which is going to read at the judgement before millions of people. If you don't get rid of it tonight in one act of mercy he can take your record and cast it behind his back forever.

You've been a backslider. You could have been teaching in Sunday school. You got too busy. Some of you preachers could have been somewhere else. You've wasted your time. And yet he comes in mercy and says listen tonight.

I'm prepared to restore you. I'm prepared to restore the joy in your heart the peace in your heart the wonder of prayer the awesomeness of worshipping God. It can be done. What's his final prayer. Purge me with hyssop and I shall be clean.

Wash me and I shall be whiter than snow. You know science says in every snowflake that comes down there's one tiny spot of dust. But when he washes me I'm whiter than snow. The hymn writer says long. My sinful heart was striving to obtain this promised rest.

But when all my struggles ended simply trusting I was blessed again. Go back to Toplade. Yes intellectual brilliant man it says foul I to that fountain fly wash me. Say you or I die. You think it's a nice job to preach.

It's the most difficult job in the world. Every meeting I'm in this the Holy Ghost is there. Somebody's born and somebody dies. You may live ten years after tonight. God Almighty never speak to you again.

Why does he have to? You've long withstood his grace long provoked him to his face would not hearken to his call and grieved him by a thousand folds. You made Jesus Christ weep in heaven. You backsliders.

He was been weeping today and he'll be weeping till you come back. You said no to his blood. You said no to his word. You said no to fellowship. No wonder you're dry and miserable. No wonder buying a new dress doesn't make you happy.

No wonder buying a new car doesn't make you happy. Christ alone can make you happy. Christ alone can give you peace. Christ alone can prepare you in a moment of time to step out of life into eternity.

Holiness and Readiness for Christ’s Return

Come on right now. Honestly at this moment would you be content to die? Are you so prepared? I believe the rapture could happen at any moment. Then at this moment you're pure. What's the scripture say?

He that hath this what? This what? Where? Then what's he do? Purifies. But it's come in a moment it won't be time to apologize. Won't be time to get purified. Somebody tells you you're wasting your time.

No you're wasting God's time. Every moment you're in disobedience. You're robbing God of his fellowship with you. You're robbing him of speaking to you. He can't get through. You're so busy. You're so lost in materialism.

All human natural pressure. This king isn't satisfied with being a conqueror. He isn't satisfied with writing psalms. He says God. You're a far off. Come near, come near. I'm coming unclean. Just as I am without one plea.

I like the last verse of that hymn. Just as I am poor, wretched, blind sight, riches of the mind. Yea all I need in thee to find O Lamb of God. I come ok. I'm through with one thing. You believe Jesus Christ is coming as I said last night.

Ok. What's he coming for? A bride. Did you ever see a dirty bride? In all the years I've travelled the world many places, I've been to many weddings. I've seen tall brides and small ones fat ones and thin ones, rich ones and poor ones ignorant ones and educated ones.

I've never seen a dirty bride. You know deep in your heart tonight that you're not ready. You know that your heart isn't pure. Your thinking isn't pure. You don't have to commit adultery. What did Jesus say?

Look on a woman to lust. And you've done the same secretly. You don't have to steal. You just covet and you're guilty. There's nothing more beautiful this sight of eternity in the eyes of God than somebody who's pure washed in the blood of the Lamb and has Jesus Christ ruling in their lives.

Sin no longer has dominion over them. They're not in bondage to some wretched rotten secret habit. They're pure. Every fetter's been broken, is there anything greater? To be free. Where are you tonight?

Secret Sins and Worldly Indulgence

A self-righteous sinner or a dirty acknowledged sinner? Secretly I lust. Secretly I go in shops and turn over the girly magazines and take you know cheap looks at cheap things. Stay up late at night.

God watched every moment you watch that lousy TV. He's got a record of it in eternity. Won't it be embarrassing? Preacher so and so, watch so many hours a week. He only prayed 3 hours in the whole week 10 hours he watched TV.

It's on the record, it's going to be read before millions get out before judgment comes. Say from tonight. Spirit, soul and body. I'm going to be the Lord. I'm going to believe there's cleansing for me in the precious blood.

Oh I'm coming back as a rebel. I've been away from God. I've kept my I took communion, I've paid my tithes. But deep in my heart I've condemnation, I've guilt. I fear of death, I fear of judgment. Right now I say Lord Jesus.

I don't care about public opinion. Some of you preachers ought to be the first at this altar. You've prostituted your calling, it's just get people here. And they weren't born again, they've gone out.

They're as lost tonight as they were before you talked with them, you didn't have time to stay. Well if you don't have time to preach don't preach. I didn't have a rotten past, I was a good Methodist.

But I remember the night when I realized I was a sinner, I couldn't believe it. I tumbled out to the altar. Thank God somebody explained the way of salvation talked to me about true repentance. That's an old fashioned word.

And that's why young people are getting saved tonight. They don't repent, they don't put things straight, they just say oh it's alright. God's written, oh go back and mend the fences. But listen, there are times when there are sins that God cannot forgive.

The Consequences of Abandoning Children

I'll just say this and quit. There's a certain woman lives not far from us. She testified on 700 Club a few years ago. She was a bit of a society girl very charming, lived for the world went dancing and singing and all the rest.

And I'm not sure whether she was married or not. But she bore a child. Then about three years after she bore another child to somebody. I don't know how many times she was married. Anyhow, these children became an embarrassment, she couldn't travel as much as she wanted.

So what did she do? She gave them both away. Well that's alright, it's easy isn't it. You give away a child five. You give away a girl seven. Now you don't have the responsibility. You just pay a woman to look after them.

But listen, that was ten years ago. Now that little child of five is fifteen. The girl of seven is seventeen. You aren't my mother. Where is my mother? Oh she's a wonderful Christian. She sings, she makes records a Christian?

Is that Christian? But wait a minute, your mother wasn't even saved. She was a mother. Why did she desert me? There are millions of people who never go back to church or anywhere after Swaggart and PTL, there's pit in your face.

Say look those were the cream of the crop. Those were men who were always talking about the Holy Ghost. And that's how they lived. Listen let me go back just a minute. I want to tell you this, I believe if you're born again it's a very difficult thing to sin.