Here I Am, Send Me — George Verwer

Let's pray together Father. We have heard many many messages many challenges father. We haven't feel a boot shop and cured feel a house for the woman and we need Wisdom from you. We're broken by side from dear to know how to respond.

Especially When we leave this place. The midway of this and we will have to have here. And when we have this not for lesson when we may no longer be in a big group. People that are of like mind when we're not made in an aggressive group of sinful loyalty.

You know so we will but we may be very much on our own. So not as we often says to still send and we ask lord that you would help us.

As we Prepare to leave this place tomorrow.

And have a bidding dish. That's doings. He lives twin fear decent blood smoke of a lesson.

We look to you now as we look into your word together.

We're shown to the off the so we will. It's combined some time what betrothed in the name of Jesus in Namen, Yesu. Amen.

Well this morning, I want to try to give you a very short message.

No, no, I don't want to really forsaken. I wish I hadn't caught the boot shop to give me. We have many speakers. We haven't feel a special.

And I know some people think for George Verwer that short message is impossible.

No, I need a think will fit George. We were isn't a scottish boot shop filly from ugly.

But I've had too many times give short messages.

I will have shown off our courts in which often forget it in fact.

I once did a radio broadcast in South Africa of three minutes.

In the target cops are going to Africa. I know Radio butch have been driving with infertile gebracht the Anglican church there where I preach often in Great Britain where I live. The Anglican issue can cause betonnia and we're off pretty good.

We shall leave a special eyes in short messages. He's in special isn't the courts of boot shop and sometimes only 15 minutes. I'm smiling or 15 minute and I always remember going to one of those churches.

It's been given or the run away so in either design and they gave me 19 minutes on the schedule. Oh, she got me in 19 minutes. Loud plan.

And I begged the leader of the church could I have a little longer time? I was new this was my first time. Could I have a little longer to share this burden on the shop?

We're cliche as a dinner lighter on the fleet. Couldn't eat a bit in me. I've been guns. No. Yeah, it was as I'm finally project a mission. Me outside and he said, of course you can have 21 minutes not doing a sector for an advanced equinox.

Following “Here Am I, Send Me” With Faithful Obedience

Many many people made a very important commitment last night to pray that prayer Lord. Here am I?

Send me feel it. I'm guessing about this. Eh. This ain't got a full song. Yeah, send the me. What do we do next.

One bus comes yet. To make that decision is just the beginning.

These are your entire don't to fail. That is the note. I'm fine. Many people make that kind of decision. Feel it. I'm not a decent art for sprechen. This is. I don't find it very difficult to follow up afterward And still not have it.

It's a search. We reach Dustin and also said they quickly become confused or discouraged.

Without what I shared yesterday morning. I don't think we can understand what I was trying to say last night.

Oh, no, that's weird. That's with him. Fuck. What's he gets done Morgan? Gesagt up come on. Also, I'll come that's for steam. What's he gets an arm?

Gesagt a be in the morning. We spoke from acts chapter 13.

I'm for me. Dark. I wish I was a pussy. She did write seen and we shared this vision to see more workers.

Thrust out across especially the unreached people of the world.

Oh, no, I'm taking my summer vision. That's we're me. I'll buy the Indy's a University in Kington. Their well chicken. One of the advantage which we have at this Congress I know they're for tile. The demon didn't happen in fight isn't concrete.

As we can pick up a videocassette of the ministry. That's going on. That's we're all I know. Video cassette. A weapon couldn't be tight. He's wider gate. This will also be helpful when people try to misquote What we're saying.

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Lloyd it was fine to tear. They say George Burwer said this. He's a judge. Well, what's all this act? We can say please refer to videocassette number six.

Well, you're saying Peter bitch, but see it. I have a videocassette in number six. When we are committed to world missions. When we're on stuff about mission.

Specialist here, then we will be mission mobilizers.

Then we have to be weak because I can I decide to be mission.

But even in other words, we will be sharing this vision with others. We will not be keeping it to ourselves.

We don't want to be wearing this evasion on a metal and also need to a lesser.

Self-sacrifice by if you get a copy of this acts. 13 message from yesterday morning.

And when you saw any copy from this our apostolic sheeted rights in both shafts and gesture form it up with nymphs.

You can then share this vision with so many people who are not here.

Then can't do these a vision with under and I'll be neat common content. We only represent a tiny.

Tiny percentage of the believers here in Germany. We have represented here.

In second part of the global union in Deutschland, how can we get this message out to other people? We can with the support of under and we tell we can share with them personally. We can see in personally.

We tell they can see it in our lives sequence. I'll announce them leave scene and.

We can share it through video or audio cassette. Oh, no, they can't see not.

I'll bring in those videos all of those her cassette.

Even people who are at the Congress some of them could not be here last night.

Sells so he did here by Congress. A tile name. Couldn't get an army star sign.

And I would urge that those people get the video cassette or audio cassette from last night.

Oh, did you make the guns drinking? That's her sleeping. Does it easy. Video or audio cassette of interest on our commitment?

Pentecost, the Holy Spirit, and What Comes Next

This is a very special Sunday.

This how it isn't guns besonders on dark across the world. It is known as Pentecost Sunday Yvonne. Interval is a be kind as things on dark. It especially should be special for Pentecostal people. Oh, it's understanding things to listen guns besonders on dark side.

All Pentecostals should stand on their head for at least 10 minutes on Pentecostal Sunday.

I live here. I live. Things are sold in minutes. It's a minute long of even hadn't seen on things on dark.

But of course we believe every Sunday is Pentecostal Sunday.

I like it got me that's here. That's on dark. I'm things on darkest. We believe every day is Pentecostal day. We are thinking that I'm just you know talk I'm things talk is.

And I don't think most of us do want to stand on our heads though. Supposedly that is now good for your health.

Yeah, and I'm going to be my son. I'll turn it off and cook steam. Waiting until you're talking or bulletin is good for that.

It is on tight where the Americans are very much into health and exercise. The American assistant Stark I was off Gesundheit so I live in London.

That was in London Lee. I was born in the United States. It's probably in the final start reports. Oh, I minister there so hobby.

I said, okay. Dean's actually I think it was in Canada.

In which I thought it is in Canada. I went into the basement. It come as a indents and some of the shows and the man had a machine that could turn you upside down So that you could be.

Standing on your head for 20 or 30 minutes.

And the Hansa as a son a great that's couldn't eat also. I'm trained so that's what's once you're trying to be. Newton of the corpse Dean goodness.

Thousands of people have purchased those machines.

Towson's and Lloyd and have such a machine beretta warden. Thousands spend up to one hour.

Upside down each day hoping something will get into their heads feeling.

Feeling last year as well. I just don't know like a cop's tail and hope that's done. What's in your cop rank on?

People will go to any extreme the.

Deloitte demand again as a wicked extreme to try to be a little more healthy. Damit's a business under where? We live in very unusual days. We are leaving it's a Unusual side and we need a lot of wisdom and you're probably feel by side.

When I think of Pentecost Sunday when you can't in things from talking I think of course of the second chapter of Acts.

Don't think it's not too much on the opposite. She did swine and.

We always read the first verses concerning the coming of the Holy Spirit.

When we listen the Aston fair said easy to be fastened with the common this highlighting guys.

And I will let other people do that today. But I wanted to look at the neglected last verses of this great chapter. Because here we have some of the secrets of What to do next? After we have an experience with the Holy Spirit.

Here What to do next after we make a commitment as we did last night concerning world mission. Let us read verse 42 until the end of the chapter. We'll just read in German to save time. We're going to have fun.

Affairs 42 bits and ended this capital's got a in touch for leasing 42 through.

47 let the Word of God speak to your heart. Fun fairs.

4240 B's fairs similar to it's each one last. This is what good is in to dynamics and reading See bleep Mauer best and the hinter layer of the Apostle and in the command shaft und im Brot brechen und im Gebet.

Es kam aber Furcht über alle Seelen und es geschahen auch viele Wunde und Zeichen durch die Apostel. Aber alle, die gläubig geworden waren, waren beieinander und hatten alle Dinge gemeinsam. Sie verkauften Güter und Habe und teilten sie aus unter alle, je nachdem es einer nötig hatte.

Und sie waren täglich einmütig beieinander im Tempel und brachen das Brot hier und dort in den Häusern und hielten die Mahlzeiten mit Freude und lauterem Herzen und lobten Gott und fanden Wohlwollen beim ganzen Volk.

Der Herr aber fügte täglich zur Gemeinde hinzu, die gerettet wurden.

This is one of the most important pictures of the early believers.

Immediately after Pentecost. Das ist eines der wichtigsten Bilder der frühen Gläubigen gleich nach Pfingsten. And we can learn so much from this passage of God's Word and every other passage. Wir können aus diesem Teil der Schrift sehr viel lernen, sowie auch aus anderen Teilen.

Apostolic Teaching, Doctrinal Truth, and Christian Unity

First of all, we see them continuing in the Apostles teaching. Zuerst sehen wir, dass sie in dieser Lehre der Apostel beständig waren. They did not have a New Testament yet. Sie hatten ja noch kein neues Testament.

The teaching was still verbal teaching. Die Lehre war immer, es wurde immer noch wörtlich weitergegeben. People who had been with the Lord. Die Leute, die mit dem Herrn zusammen waren. The early Apostles.

Die frühen Apostel. Some people in this day are wanting to unite all the religions of the world. Wollen alle Religionen der Welt zusammenfassen. That is a major force in Germany and in Europe today. Das ist heute in Deutschland und in Europa eine der.

Treibenden Kräfte. Of course the Baha 'i religion claims they have already done.

That and they want everybody to become a Baha 'i. Natürlich, die Baha 'i behaupten, sie hätten das ja bereits gemacht und sie wollen, dass jeder ein Baha 'i wird. And they.

Have created one of the most poisonous religious cocktails in the history of.

Religion. Sie haben eine der giftigsten religiösen Mixturen zusammengebraut in.

Europa. More and more we are going to see the persecution of true believers here.

In Europe. Mehr und mehr stellen wir fest, dass wahre Gläubige hier in Europa verfolgt werden. It is constantly coming on television. Das kommt immer wieder im Fernsehen. Christians are mocked. Man lacht über Christen.

They're all considered fanatical fundamentalists. Oder sie werden als fanatische Fundamentalisten abgestempelt. Or completely crazy charismatics. Oder als völlig verrückte.

Charismatiker. Some Christians do not watch much television.

Manche Christen schauen nicht viel Fernsehen. Probably good. Das ist möglicherweise recht gut. I don't watch much television. Ich schaue mir auch nicht.

Viel an im Fernsehen. But I try to stay informed and read reviews and watch some of these programs to see what they are saying against the body of our Lord Jesus.

Christ. Aber ich schaue mir das an und schaue auch Berichte darüber an und möchte wissen, was sie sagen gegen diesen Leib Christi. A key word in our society today is toleration. Ja nun, die Welt heute in unserer Gesellschaft, die ist sehr tolerant.

This is also true in the United States. So ist es auch in den Vereinigten Staaten. Political correctness. Die politische Correctness. We must never say anything that offends any minority group. Wir dürfen ja nicht sagen, was irgendeine Minorität beleidigen könnte.

Some of these things are good. Einige von den Dingen.

Sind gut. But the exception seems to be Bible-believing Christians. Aber bei den.

Bibelgläubigen Christen, da macht man eine Ausnahme. These are considered the enemy by so-called liberal minded people. Die werden als Feind betrachtet von den.

Sogenannten liberalen Leuten. This is one of the reasons we need greater love and.

Unity among us. Deshalb brauchen wir mehr Liebe und Einheit unter uns. Probably the most important book I have seen in this decade. Möglicherweise das wichtigste Buch, das ich in diesem Jahrzehnt gesehen habe, is a book called Grace Awakening by Charles Swindoll, that two years ago was also put into German.

Das hieß Grace Awakening. Die Gnade erwacht von Charles Swindoll, das es auch in Deutsch gibt seit einiger Zeit.

This amazing book has gone out by the hundreds of thousands of copies in many.

Languages. Dieses erstaunliche Buch ist schon zu hunderttausenden Exemplaren.

Verteilt worden. If you read English, I'll be happy to send you one as a gift.

Wenn du Englisch lesen kannst, dann würde ich mich darüber freuen, dir eins als Geschenk zu schicken.

If you read German, go to your Christian bookshop. They need your encouragement.

Or maybe they have it here on this book table. Wenn du es in Deutsch brauchst, dann geh in deine Buchhandlung und verlange es dort. Vielleicht haben sie es auch auf dem Büchertisch. There are tremendous books available in German.

Es gibt eine große Menge Bücher, die es in Deutsch gibt. The average Christian only sees a tiny.

Percentage of those books because they're not that interested in Christian books.

Der normale Christ, der sieht nur einen kleinen Prozentsatz, denn normalerweise ist er auch nicht den Büchern interessiert. In this amazing book by this man of God, in diesem erstaunlichen Buch durch diesen hervorragenden Mann Gottes, there's an important chapter.

Da gibt es ein ganz wichtiges Kapitel.

Learning to disagree and yet staying united together.

Wie man lernt, nicht zuzustimmen und trotzdem in der Einheit zu bleiben.

I believe that is the way forward for the body of Christ.

Ich glaube fest daran, dass ist der Weg für den Leib Christi.

We are never going to all agree on all the different things that are coming at us from different sources in the church today.

Wir werden niemals miteinander einig sein über diese verschiedenen Dinge, die auf uns zukommen, auf uns als Leib Christi. At the same time.

Aber gleichzeitig. Bible teaching and doctrine are important.

Sind die Lehre der Bibel und auch das Lehren wichtig.

I praise God for two years in a Bible college.

Ich preise Gott für diese zwei Jahre in der Bibelschule.

I did not agree with everything they taught me.

Ich habe nicht mit allem übereingestimmt, was sie mir da erzählen. I was a little bit of a rebel.

Ich war so eine Art Rebell. But those two years of so much time in the Word of God laid a foundation in my life.

Aber diese zwei Jahre mit viel Zeit im Wort Gottes, die haben in meinem Leben eine Grundlage gelegt. I have a cassette tape.

Again, I'd be happy to send you free called Why Go to Bible College.

Ich habe eine Kassette gemacht und die möchte ich euch auch kostenlos zusenden, die lautet Warum geht man in eine Bibelschule?

We must never say that doctrine is not important.

Wir dürfen niemals sagen, Lehre ist nicht so wichtig.

The teaching of love in 1 Corinthians 13 is doctrine.

Die Lehre von der Liebe in 1 Corinthians 13, ja das ist Lehre.

Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh to the Father but by me. That is a doctrinal statement that will revolutionize our lives if we believe it.

Jesus sagte, ich bin der Weg, die Wahrheit und das Leben. Und das ist einfach Doktrin, Lehre. Und die wird Revolutionäres in unserem Leben machen.

Missionary Humility, Cultural Sensitivity, and the Four Pillars of the Church

The thing that upsets some people the most about world missions.

Das ist etwas, was viele Leute am meisten ärgert bei den Missionen.

When they hear we're trying to win people of other religions, you know, good Muslims and good Hindus, we're trying to win them to Jesus. They say this is a terrible thing. How do we handle that? We have to go back to God's word.

Jesus is the way. We don't want to put down other people's culture.

Wir möchten nicht die Kultur anderer Leute zerstören.

In fact, missionaries must be very sensitive about culture.

We need a very high quality of missionary in the day and age in which we live. Und wir brauchen wirklich hochkarätige Missionare in der Welt, in der wir heute leben.

In a summer or for a year program, you can be a helper. You can have a ministry, praise God. But that must be a learning experience. You don't go as some dynamic apostle. You go as a humble disciple and Timothy learning from others.

Many are getting a vision for long-term missions through their short-term opportunity. But long-term missionaries must be quality people who can learn a language, who can adjust to culture and do God's work.

There are two, three other points just in that one verse. A great church planter in India who planted about 500 churches, he said verse 42 presents the four pillars of a solid New Testament church. It talks about doctrine.

Then it talks about fellowship. Then it talks about worship expressed in the breaking of bread. And then it speaks about prayer just in that one verse. We don't have time to expand this passage. But another major follow-up from last night and this whole congress is to remain in fellowship with like-minded people.

Try to meet for prayer. Hopefully, you belong to a church where you can meet for prayer and where you can have fellowship. But some people go off to university. They go off to different parts of the world.

And I would urge you, wherever you are, to be in fellowship with like-minded people that you can share your heart with, you can share your vision with, and you can pray with. Many people ask me this question because I'm known for speaking openly about sexuality.

Accountability, Sexual Purity, and Walking in the Light

They ask me this question, why have so many people included in the church? Leaders fallen into immorality. That is a question everybody asks me all over the world. We don't have time to give a big answer to that question.

And that is not my subject this morning. But I can assure you, young people, one of the fiery darts that will try to stop you in your mission vision will be the fiery dart of immorality or impurity. I have a 25-point strategy.

I have practiced since 17 years of age to stand against the fiery darts of immorality. And hallelujah, it has worked for 42 years. And all of it is found in the Word of God. But one of the most important principles is being accountable, having some kind of accountability group so that you have people who are in fellowship with you, who are not afraid to ask you the hard questions about how you are actually living your practical Christian life.

Some of you have heard of the promise keepers movement in North America that has spread to many other countries. People easily criticize something that is new, especially when it is so big. Nothing is perfect.

And especially when it gets big. I was in Washington some months ago when one million, almost one million men came for a whole day of worship and repentance there in the capital of the United States. It was awesome.

Over the past several years, since that movement was launched by a former football coach, hundreds of thousands of men have got right with God and right with their wives. I say, praise be to God. Many of them have repented of immorality.

Amen. Many of them have repented of immorality. And the secret of that unusual movement is not these big amazing meetings. It's the small accountability groups. Whereas it says in 1 John chapter 2, men are walking in the light with one another.

One of the fruits of true revival is when men and women begin to walk in the light. No more darkness. No more double life. Saturday night, one life. Sunday morning, a different life. We become whole. We become healthy.

Holy Spirit healthy. And we learn how to walk in the light. If I had not learned that as a baby Christian, I would not be here today. I would have been knocked out of the battle. And then we see that emphasis on worship and breaking of bread, which is part of worship.

Worship, Prayer, and the Danger of Selective Obedience

In a congress with so much emphasis on worship from others, I don't feel I should speak more about that. Only to say that I learned this when I was 17. And I began at a young age to distribute books, urging people to make worship the number one priority of their life.

Not just when we're together and we have wonderful worship bands, but when we're all alone and we're feeling lonely to worship God with the inner harp that he has put in our hearts. And then we see that fourth principle there in that verse.

The principle of prayer. And we have had that emphasized in a wonderful way these days. We see the results. Look at verse 43. They were filled with awe. Many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles.

That has been your emphasis. Praise God for what he has done. But of course, when we get to verse 44, we decide it's time to go home. Many people want signs and wonders.

People will travel thousands of miles for signs and wonders.

Some are gifted in creating signs and wonders even when there are no signs and wonders. But I seldom find people interested in verse 44. And when we get to verse 45, we decide that we're going to go into cafeteria.

Bible study methods. It means we pick and we choose. It's like a smorgasbord, like a smorgasbord. We have those restaurants in Germany.

All the food is spread out in front of you. It's like the little breakfast we have in our little hotel here.

Five, ten different kinds of German bread and biscuits and things. You just pick and you choose. So people have developed this method of studying the bible. Oh, verse 43, that's my favorite. Signs and wonders.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's eat. Let's eat. Oh, verse 44, let's look at that. All the believers were together and had everything in common. No, not today. I'm not very hungry for that today. Well, let's take a look at, you know, next verse.

Selling their possessions and goods they gave to anyone who had need. Not today, thank you. Maybe tomorrow. Oh, that verse is for my rich uncle. I certainly hope he gives me something soon. So many of the Lord's people play little games with the word of God instead of taking all of it and facing the reality of that.

Now when we get to verse 46, well, that's a little easier. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes, ate together with glad and sincere hearts. And verse 47, praising God, enjoying the favor of all the people.

And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. Glory to God. So many important decisions have been made here during this congress. So some have been healed. Some have had a fresh experience with the Holy Spirit.

From Conference Experience to the Crucified Life

All of this happens not in the absence of our humanness, it happens in the midst of all of our humanness. But the big question, what do we do on Tuesday morning? What do we do on Tuesday morning? As we go back to our jobs.

As we go back to families, some families that do not even know Christ. As we get back into the real world situation. Jesus never promised an easy road. And that's why, once again, I want to emphasize, together with Pentecost, we always must have the message of the cross.

Never put these in competition. We need the word. We need the spirit. We need the spirit-filled life. But we need the crucified life. It's wonderful to have a crisis experience.

It's wonderful to have an experience with Christ.

But the crisis must be followed by a process or it will become an abscess. So people who once were so filled with God's grace are knocked out of the battle. I close with these words from the Apostle Paul.

From the book of Corinthians. He said, I buffet my body. I bring my body into discipline. This is the Apostle Paul. The man who had some of the most incredible spiritual experiences ever recorded in the word of God.

He says, I buffet my body. I bring it into subjection.

I discipline myself.

So that after preaching to other people, I do not end up a castaway.

So that after preaching to other people, I do not end up a castaway. Disqualified.

That's from the word of God. That's not my idea. And the Apostle Paul needed that kind of discipline. That kind of crucified reality. How much more all of us who are sitting here need to take that step of faith?

Paul said in Galatians 2 .20, I am crucified with Christ.

Nevertheless, I live, yet not I, but Christ who liveth within me. That is the message. That comes together with the great message of Pentecost. And when we get that Holy Ghost combination, the crisis and the process, nothing will stop us from running this marathon race until we are with the Lord Jesus Christ.

A Prayer for Discipline, Perseverance, and Daily Faithfulness

Let us pray. Let every head be bowed before the Lord in a moment of silent prayer. I believe God has spoken to many of you about biblical balance, about what to do when you leave here,.

About the need to have the reality.

Of the Holy Spirit together with the reality of the crucified life, the need to take these basic principles from Acts chapter 2, that Pentecost chapter, and put them in practice in our daily life. Are you willing to do this when you leave here, starting Monday night,.

Starting Tuesday morning, discipline in the word of God, discipline in fellowship and accountability, discipline in worship and prayer,.

Disciplined in every area of your life, so that when your body is trying to pull you into something sinful, you'll be able to deal that blow and bring it back to the cross, so that five years from now, you'll not be one more congress casualty.

Are you willing for that kind of life, that kind of discipline? I'm not going to ask you to come forward, but if you're serious about the disciplined life,.

If you're serious about what I have just spoken to you about,.

And you'll make a specific commitment to walk this road,.

I'd like you just to put your hand up. I just want to see you,.

Because I know it is a majority of people, God bless you. Lord, I pray for each person, that has just put their hand up, that they will become disciplined marathon runners in your great race, that the crisis they've experienced these days will be followed by the process of daily denying self, of taking up the cross and following you.

And Lord, I want to recommit myself to continue to walk this road. And Lord, I thank you that when I have failed, and there's been a lack of discipline, that you have forgiven. And Lord, I pray for those that feel a struggle in their hearts, because maybe they tried to walk this road and they have failed.

And we thank you for grace, Lord, and forgiveness, that when we fail, you love us just as much. Because we are your children, and we have been cleansed by your precious blood. By your grace, we will stay in this race.

Through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen. Praise be to the living God. We've certainly been praising the Lord for a lot of time during these days. We now have the privilege of leaving and carrying this blessing to other people.

It's been a privilege to share this opportunity with you. In some ways, I wish I could have been here for every single meeting. But as I was ministering here, I have many other responsibilities in the leadership of OM, and so spend a good part of my time on the telephone.

And we would appreciate your prayers, because our work has grown so quickly. And to be honest, there are always many problems when a work grows quickly. I've hardly said anything about Operation Mobilization during these days, and I'm not going to speak about that now.

But if any of you would like more information in German or English or any other hundred languages, I would love to hear from you personally, and I'll be here after the meeting giving out my address. Nelson asked me to share some of my impressions of these days together.

As you may know, I like to express things with dynamic words. During these days, we've had words from the Lord. We've also had words from the Word. And that constantly has to be kept in balance. So as I was preparing and waiting upon God.

Seven Impressions for Continuing the Spiritual Journey

To share these impressions, God gave me seven words from His Word. I wrote them down on this piece of paper. And maybe you can write them down.

And think on them in the months to come. And if one year from now you send me these seven impressions, seven words, in English I'll send you seven books, in German I'll send you one book. The first word that impresses my heart from these days together is the word hunger.

It's been a privilege to be among people who are hungry for God.

Sometimes meetings like this are criticized. Sometimes people say some of these things are extreme.

I'd rather have people a little bit extreme in the hunger for God zone than extreme in spiritual warmness and all of that kind of thing. I've seen too many people overreacting to extremes and ending up in the deep freeze of dead orthodoxy, traditionalism, legalism and other forms of ism.