Now What? Processing and Responding to Charlie Kirk's Assassination

Grieving Charlie Kirk and the Shock of the Assassination

I picked you up yesterday evening. I got a disconnected line. I think I know just what you're feeling. Always been a friend of mine. Watched them strip you of your virtue. I saw the strain they made you bear.

They took advantage of your promise And kept your God out of your prayer. America, I still love you Cause I'm a grandson of this place. Mississippi to Ohio. I got roots, Plymouth to Jamestown. And I don't wanna see your name erased.

A glimpse of you last week. Playing baseball in a field. They sang your anthem. Just know that most of us still love you. We'd take a bullet, Kirk's R .I .P. America, I still love you Cause I'm a grandson of this place.

Mississippi to America. I still love you Cause I'm a grandson of Mississippi. I still love you I'm just a grandson of this place. Well, you've been down a couple rounds. But when you wake, they'll hit the ground.

Welcome to the Conversations That Matter podcast. I'm your host John Harris. It's a sober day. The last two days have been sober days for all of us. Two and a half days. Ever since I was live streaming On, now the days are running together, Wednesday I guess it was.

And we received the news in the middle of the live stream That Charlie Kirk had been shot. I saw the shot. And the result of that I saw the video early. I wasn't expecting to see such a graphic video.

I think many of you were in the same position I was. Isn't it someone's job to censor that, right? But it was so soon That no one had put any restrictions on it. And so we got to see it. And I knew right away that he was likely dead.

I saw the amount of blood he lost. I saw where it hit. And I just couldn't see how he would survive. Of course, this is during the podcast That this is all going down. And a number of high-profile accounts on social media That would have access to the knowledge About what was happening to Charlie Kirk.

Started weighing in And saying that actually he was stabilized. He was conscious. And I think it was within 25 minutes Of hearing those initial reports That we received the news That actually, no, he had passed away.

And so there was this hope. There was this little window of hope we had. And I just thought, man, if he is stabilized That is a miracle. Because I just can't see how it's possible. And we lived through that.

It is traumatic to live through that. Even if you weren't there. You saw it with your eyes. I think this week has been particularly hard. Because we were on Monday greeted with the full video. It was leaked, I guess Of the situation down in Charlotte Which I podcasted so much about.

We're not going to talk about it too much. But seeing that does something. It traumatizes you in some level. At least it should, I think. It's not fake stuff. It's not a video game. It's not special effects.

Someone died. And then to see Charlie Kirk die. Within two days of seeing that video It's just overwhelming. It's overwhelming seeing evil. Knowing that there's evil. And I think that's the main takeaway That people have right now.

They know, even if they don't believe In the Christian God. They don't know if the Bible is true. They do know one thing right now. Most people They know there is such a thing as evil. And as I've said If there is evil, that means there must be good.

And if there is good, there has to be a God. And his law, of course, as Romans 1 says Is embedded, reflected. It is stored on some level Within our own hearts. We know that evil exists. We have a knowledge of it.

Because God has placed it within us. We have a moral law That screams at us. That demands that there be justice. Because we know that there's a God. And he has attributes. He's holy, he's righteous, he's powerful.

And if he's powerful and righteous Evil must be punished. And it will be. It will be punished. And so We pray for it on this earth. We pray for justice. We also know if justice doesn't happen on this earth.

There is a final stage. There is a judge, ultimately After this short life. Who will judge all of us According to our deeds. And those who are not in Christ Will be standing alone. They will have no excuse for the sins that they've committed.

And I think Christians can take great comfort in that. Matthew and I talked about that on the American Churchman podcast. A little bit last Tuesday.

But.

There's a lot of talk right now In a lot of different directions. I've received, I think, more messages The last two days About What can I do, John? What is it that I'm supposed to do now That Charlie Kirk has been assassinated?

It seems like we've entered a new paradigm. Doesn't seem like talking to the left Is even going to work anymore. He was the last one that seemed At least on a national scale Like he was willing and able To talk to the left.

Others have tried I don't think as successfully as Charlie Kirk He was the best At doing what he did. Even guys like Ben Shapiro Or Stephen Crowder. Others who have More from a, you know, the right Semi-conservative viewpoint Have tried to go to college campuses Either it's comedic Or they come off arrogant.

It's just not the same. I don't know what to tell you. Charlie Kirk had this demeanor That was very convictional. He knew there was truth. He knew what he stood for. He cared about people Though at the same time And there was this humility.

And it was a wonderful balance To see in someone. And if that guy Who was so nice Who could disagree In such a diplomatic way While caring about someone. If he was shot If he was unacceptable Well what does it mean For the rest of us, right?

I know I'm not always as Diplomatic as Charlie Kirk. You probably feel the same way If he's not acceptable If he can't operate On a college campus Where it's supposed to be A free speech zone. You're literally there Because the whole point Is to learn Even if that learning Is in the process of Navigating conflicting viewpoints.

That's the place you do it. And if you can go to A state university And be shot While engaging In such a charitable manner. What does that mean For our country? I know this is one Of the big questions.

And I know there's Many other questions. I know many people.

Who don't feel.

Like they have power To do anything about this But feel like they have A responsibility And they need to do something Are having a very hard time And I want to speak to you Because there are things You can do.

Actually I just wrote An article about it. It's not published yet But it should be published Within the next few days. On TruthScript And it really came out Of some conversations I had with people. I've been receiving Random calls from A number of people The last few days.

Some of them I haven't Spoken to for a while Just asking me John what am I supposed To do right now? And so I wrote something To help navigate that question. But I think the last time I had as many questions About that Was the contested election of 2020.

So I'm going to read Through that article And talk about it. We'll talk about this Shooter a little bit. I spent hours this morning Trying to figure out motives And all of that. And I don't want to get Into all the details I had in the early afternoon A plan to do a comparative analysis Of the two major theories About what motivated This particular shooter.

And I've decided to scrub that I am going to show you A little bit of evidence. And of course I am Leaning towards this Seem like someone Who was radicalized On the left. I've always felt that The whole day I've thought that.

But there were some moments Of being tenuous about it. There was certainly A narrative out there And it seemed to have A little bit of merit That maybe this was someone Who was radicalized In a different direction.

At least that's what people Were saying More on a right wing Kind of. Well like the other shooter On Wednesday Which we'll talk about. Or like the Buffalo shooter Which I might give A personal story about Because I actually have Two degrees of separation If you will With that particular shooter.

And that was someone Who was unapologetically Out there To kill racial minorities. And this was a few years ago. But despite that Despite what happened on Wednesday It is without a doubt Overwhelming The level of violence The left commits When compared to Those on the quote unquote right Overwhelming.

It's.

I mean all you have to do Is compare January 6th Which the left still is screaming about With the BLM riots The largest insurance payout In the history of this country. Bigger than any hurricane. It's no contest really.

All humans are capable though Of sin right. And there are certain ideologies That justify it more. The left justifies it. Because if you're a hater A bigot An evil person You're dehumanized. You don't matter.

Once you start taking classes of people And dehumanizing them Meaning saying they have less of the image of God. Or maybe there is no image of God. You're just. We're all animals. And we can get rid of the elements That are holding society back.

Because they're just all guilty. They're guilty because of their identity Not because of their crime. That's very much against God's law Isn't it? And I see stuff like that taking root Even on the right.

But the left is known for it. The left I mean I went. I have a university education.

I.

And I I don't even have it queued up. But some of you have seen The college professors. There was one account on X That was just taking Inventory of college professors Who are Celebrating The death of Charlie Kirk And saying how do these people Stay on a state payroll.

They need to be fired. And that's absolutely true. And I'm thankful for the people who are doing that. I'd like to think that that's a minority. But. And I'm sure it is a minority. But it's too sizable of a minority I'm sure.

The left has been like this for a long time. Think of Weather Underground from the 1960s. And remember Obama's connection to Bill Ayers. And all of that. There's still this element on the left That if they can't win an argument If they can't get there through boats They'll get there through bullets.

Even though they're against The second amendment and all of that. That's still present. There's a revolutionary mindset. We don't want to wait around. It takes too long. Let's take care of business. And Charlie Kirk was effective.

And.

I have to think that played into why. He was assassinated. So I want to talk a little bit about Charlie Kirk. And then we'll get into all of this other stuff. Let's play this video. This video might be a little hard for you to hear.

I think the volume was a little low. It's a reel though I saw on Facebook. And I want you all to hear. This is Charlie Kirk. I know there's a lot of tributes out there. But this one I thought was particularly Revealing about his motives.

For doing what he did on college campuses. So here's Charlie Kirk. At one of his events. I don't know what university this is. But it was posted I think right after his passing. By Turning Point USA.

Usually a college campus Against Charlie. I've noticed the swing Of a college campus With Charlie now. And it's radically different and so much more fun to watch. What do you attribute that to?

You know what it is? The people in this audience are smart. And they're panicking that they're not going to have a country. They're the first generation Since George Washington. To have it worse off than their parents.

This generation is the most depressed. Suicidal, anxious. Drug addicted, lowest home ownership. Poorest, most overweight. Directionless. This is true. And also this generation around you has something very unique.

Almost everyone in this audience here. Had their prom cancelled because of COVID. Had their graduation ceremonies cancelled. Probably lost a friend to suicide. Because of all the lockdowns. And they are looking for a country that they can believe in.

That they can live in. So I'm not going to take credit for it. These are forces greater than us. We just happen to be at the right place at the right time.

Thank you.

Sorry I was muted there. There you have Charlie Kirk explaining some of his motivation For why he goes on campuses and does what he does And the kind of people he's trying to reach Which are young people.

They're Zoomers now who are in college And he describes I think their situation perfectly. He was effective at reaching Zoomers. He understood the plight that they were in He understood the conditions That held them back From achieving what The generations that came Before them were able to achieve At least their parents.

He knew the kinds of instability And drug dependency And economic factors. And he went with them With really two messages I would say Maybe he would say one I don't know. I divide it into two though. I think that he went there with Especially initially A message of Conservative Which I think initially meant Mostly free market solutions Reflecting the created order More or less In gender How we arrange society To accommodate The two genders Anti-abortion.

So there was a social conservative element there And a strong foreign policy Pro-guns Pro-gun rights I should say I think those were the things that he brought. So it was a message of American Freedom but I would maybe put A finer point on it and call It An ordered liberty.

He had an ordered liberty that he thought It was far superior To the BLM narrative To the gender Theories That kids were getting in college To the communism That they were imbibing. He had an alternative that was a better way to live.

And I saw this in real time From a distance so In some ways someone asked if I had ever met Charlie. And no I have not met Charlie Kirk. The yellow kazoo asked that Did you ever meet him. I did not. I got close a few times Kind of I so I knew someone before he got super big Who also knew him And had him over to their house and everything.

And I was over so we were mutual friends. So I was over at this person's house and they really Wanted to introduce me to Charlie Kirk. It just never happened. I said I was open to it But I wasn't a huge Charlie Kirk fan.

And I'll explain that in a moment I'm much more so now. But I'll explain why. And I've had other Friends. I still have other friends many Actually who have met him or are friends with him so There was a One degree of separation there but I never did meet him.

So anyway Charlie Kirk was going with this message of order Ordered liberty to The college campuses. He was recruiting Voters he was getting Zoomers interested in politics. I looked at a lot Of what turning point USA was doing.

I had my Own term for it. I called it spring break Conservatism. I don't know if anyone Else has used that term. I know I came up with it but I don't know if anyone else has also Independently come up with it but it Was much more lax right.

Because before Charlie Kirk you had the young republicans Young America's foundation Trying to think what else you had. But they were very buttoned up Kind of suit and tie. Judd Saul pointed this out to me.

Actually a few weeks ago we were talking about it And I was like you're right I listen to those podcasts. I was somewhat in that World you had the leadership institute right in DC these were and they are still Organizations that Are a little more I would say academically focused But let's just say there are a lot of nerds.

And that's like nothing wrong with that we need Our nerds people have called me A nerd but they Attracted people who were.

Very good.

At analyzing data and Knowing history in Very thorough Ways. And Charlie Kirk came along and he disrupted all of That in a way like he He brought something new he packaged Everything differently to be More of a.

Casual.

Conversation. What he did on college campuses. It wasn't. He had the t-shirt on. He'd throw Out hats to the crowd. It felt like summer Camp right. There some of the things they Turning point did early on I kind of scratch my Head out.

I probably even went after some of Them on the podcast because they were just kind of Kind of odd I'll put it that Way but they the organization shifted. And I remember the shift because in 2020 I was at CPAC.

And at CPAC at that time this Wasn't Charlie but turning point USA. Their booth had rainbow flags. And I just thought I don't really That's not my thing. I'm not Not with these guys. Something happened though the next Year I think 2021 Is when I started seeing this Charlie Kirk.

I don't know if He took his faith more seriously. He became More grounded I don't know exactly what it was. But he started becoming More and more Outspoken about his Christianity. Overtly so to the point that By the time he passed away He was an evangelist.

He was going to the college campuses and He was spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ Just as much as he was Political views. And his Political views also changed. Few years ago I criticized Charlie Kirk for views That he held probably 2018 to 2020 somewhere in that time frame Where he was Saying that freedom Liberty the American conservative Concept of freedom meant Gay marriage was essentially permissible.

And I just I.

Think he did it on the Dave Rubin show one of the Clips that I play there was a few clips but Something changed because There were clips people Were sending me when I did that episode. Even then where Charlie Kirk Start was saying If not the opposite something That was at least on its way to being the opposite.

And by the time he passed away he certainly Was saying the opposite that The Obergefell decision was bad. His social Conservatism it grew it Became much more socially Conservative and he started overtly using The Bible as his reference His source of authority.

And it was such a wonderful Thing to see it really was. So I'm not someone who's never Been critical. I suppose I have in The past but I would say in the last three Years there's been there was so much growth with Him that every clip I saw.

I think Charlie Kirk and I were pretty Pretty close as far. As what how we looked at the political.

Scene.

There I didn't see anything I disagreed with. Really I mean he was I Think a humble man he. Now I wasn't watching every Clip I don't know everything he said. But I just saw a Demeanor that wanted to reach young people That truly cared about them And loved his wife loved his kids.

A man who Seemed to walk with God who Spent time in the word getting To know it. That was evident from the way that his Bible knowledge just increased exponentially.

And.

You know that that's sort of my view of Charlie Kirk really Nice guy and Someone that I wish I would have been able to meet. Right I think I would have if he If he had gone on Living I think at some point We would have crossed paths probably Because I do have so many mutual Friends with him.

But We didn't and that just means we're gonna have To meet each other in heaven and I'm looking forward To that very much. I think it's hard to see any Young dad. I was actually surprised he was 31. I did not know that I thought he was around.

My age I'm 36. I just turned 36 so I was like wow he's younger than me. And then you ask the question well what am I doing With my life. Right. It's like What a 31 and he's Accomplished so much. I think he was A brilliant person.

He was very diplomatic He was able to make friends But also Make the right enemies. And one of the Things that I noticed about him.

Was.

He you have A lot of these big eva guys that I've Been critical of praising him. Guys who I don't think agreed with everything that he stood For and Yet charlie kirk I Hit me he is More of a christian Leader in the minds of People in this country than They were Your big celebrity pastors.

Charlie kirk was probably more of a Christian influence than they were. And I just started thinking about That and I thought you know Charlie kirk never went through the typical Mechanisms you're supposed to go through.

Because he came from the political world. And he didn't go through the Education route. He doesn't even have a college degree. The only Thing I mean I was at liberty university When I saw him and jerry falwell Junior form the falkirk center which Fell apart very quickly.

It's now the freedom Center and it's a great Organization. But jerry falwell jr Obviously was gone after the scandals. And charlie kirk was gone soon after that. But that was I thought that was An odd pairing at the time so That will.

Charlie kirk's from the political world. But he became more And more focused on christianity. Even turning point Having their pastors Conference and him Platforming so many Pastors and christian speakers.

And I think that's a wonderful Thing actually that he promoted The gospel. He promoted christianity. He was an evangelical. I believe he went to a calvary chapel if i'm not Mistaken. I had heard that from mutual Friends his pastor and him had become very close In the last few years and they were Working together.

He was being discipled.

And.

He did not go through the typical Gatekeepers that you know. You know what i'm talking about those who Listen to this podcast. Most of you followed My critiques of big eva you know exactly What i'm talking about.

Where you Have to kind of pay your dues. You have to ingratiate Yourself to those in authority over you At seminary if you go to seminary or In the mainstream big church Or institution. And once you do that It opens up levels of access To higher platforms.

And if you do the right thing In 10 years maybe You can be a mega church pastor but You got to play your cards right. And unless you're baptist they don't play Cards. But you have to Make the right decisions in the right The right associations To get into the cool kids crowd And sit at the big table.

Charlie kirk didn't care about any of that because he was never He he just he kind of bypassed All of that and Then he was in the position Of choosing who to platform At some of the biggest national christian conferences.

And.

It just it dawned on me the last few days. Um that's the Ticket. That's the way to do it. It doesn't matter what they just Follow christ. Okay this is it. Follow christ. Be Obedient to him in whatever Platform you have.

It might be the battle of Bedford falls or it might be Charlie kirk level stuff. It might be the battle. For america. And you're going to college campuses. I just had a note before this from someone Who says pray for me.

I'm thinking of going to my local Campus. I think that's wonderful. I used to do a lot of evangelism on college campuses. And after this i've been thinking that i need to I need to do that. That's where it's at.

Of course. I'm also Thinking i need a security guard with me.

But.

That exactly if you're going to follow His example that's what to do. Right. It's It's not to stop the conversation it's To try to continue it and in the safest way you Can but Don't stop. As christians Our mission never stops we're in the world we're Not of it.

We have to go and preach the gospel. Every creature that means leftist guys Every creature Need it too and they do convert. Sometimes the lord does work in their hearts. Okay.

And.

Be obedient. Don't don't. If you're someone sitting in a seminary Classroom right now or A large christian institution and you Kept your mouth shut you're waiting around to be Platformed and so forth i would Encourage you to reevaluate that.

There are other ways Now to gain A hearing gain an audience. What did jesus do. He went around All of galilee and he preached. He Preached the gospel of the kingdom. And he had his disciples He mentored them.

He never went through the religious Establishment and i would say the religious Establishment now. I've just concluded over Time it is so rotten In our country. Be like charlie Kirk. Be like charlie Kirk now if you have opportunities that open up.

I'm Not saying to say no to him. I'm just saying Don't wait around for People that have little virtue To take notice of you. In fact if you have virtue You likely won't get to the place of Authority in any of these institutions.

Be a faithful Pastor. Be a faithful speaker. Be a faithful podcaster. Be a faithful Father. Be a faithful business owner whatever It is you're doing. Do it. To the glory of God. It's it. It's really that.

Simple.

He.

Focused on the People who needed the gospel Message the most too i think of jesus. Going to the tax gatherers And the harlots. And charlie Kirk did something similar he went to the college Campuses and he tried to persuade Them that was his weapon was Persuasion and he was pretty good at it he had a great Recall of facts.

I I'm jealous of that a little not in a Bad way. I just i feel like i Read so much the other day i was reading Something that i had written a few years ago. And i thought to myself wow This is brilliant stuff not to be self Aggrandizing but i thought this is amazing It you know and i thought for i Forgot who wrote it for a second like this who Wrote this.

I'm like oh right i did But i can't remember it so I'm rediscovering it right. I think most Of us are like that to some extent. I think charlie Kirk wasn't though he had a great Recall of facts. He could Learn something and he had it he could Retain it Which is amazing.

And he also was Very clear thinking he had some Natural abilities right. But he wasn't an academic and i could tell That but by watching him He wasn't someone who was doing Like deep research on things and he Was a he was a common guy.

And he knew that in our college Campuses. Now frankly Especially in undergrad that is the Level that you're going to speak to people at. He Knew his audience. Well and i would Encourage you to that's another lesson.

Know your Audience. Know which audience god Wants you to reach and then Reach them in the way he wants you to reach them. And i think for a lot Of us that's going to mean on some level Persuasion. So learn Some of that learn how to be persuasive.

So those are a few thoughts about Charlie kirk. I'll take some comments and then i Want to talk about the shooter. I want To get to some of the big eva reactions. I only have a few and then last but not Least.

I'm going to get to the article that i wrote for truth Script on what. Now how shall We then live. I've had more People ask me that and i've Given you a little clue as to where I'm going but yes i'm going to talk About force and power And violence and all of that as well.

But i want to say that towards the end. So If you have A question put A question mark by It and i will know it's a question and that'll be Easy for me to Get to it. The yellow kazoo says i met him Three times.

Well good for you. He must have Gone to his events. That's great. Mark says on The same day charlie kirk was murdered over 3 ,000 innocent babies were murdered through Abortion. Love your neighbor for the womb.

Amen. Absolutely true Cosmic treason says we can urge the feds To label the dnc act blue Blm and antifa as terrorist organizations And charge all their donors With giving material aid To terrorists. Well i am curious about what kind of Connections we're going to be able to uncover.

I'm hoping With this gentleman was it Tyler robinson. I think is his name.

And.

Everything that he was involved with. And i would agree if we Find we got to find these connections but But i think there's there's More we can do to even without those connections We can Retrieve something called treason.

That actually congress has the Authority to punish and We're going to talk about that later in the podcast. A little bit. Let's see. Texan shepherd says. I'm a pastor and sunday morning i'm preaching from Ephesians 6 10 through 14.

It's time For believers to take a stand for the Truth and stop being quiet. Coward. Stand up. Speak out. Stand firm in the lord. Stormy squad asks can we Get a list of companies firing The people celebrating so we can give them Our business.

I don't know if you want to do that for Everyone because i i think i saw that msnbc Actually fired someone Who was saying Initially that this might be Someone who was just rejoicing in Exuberance over charlie Kirk at a rally and accidentally shot Him.

I think that was the person they Fired and i remember i saw that. I thought What is this person think. Has he ever met a Conservative. Does he think that if you go to a conservative Rally everyone just has guns and they're shooting them Everywhere.

Is it just the wild west. I mean talk about out of touch. It's Incredible.

So let's.

Have you heard here. One more question. Have you heard that he And his family were attending catholic mass. I have. And that's fake. Yes. That is fake. That his wife Had a rosary there. I don't none Of.

That's true. From what i understand i saw That right before the podcast actually so Pretty sure that's not true. Um so yeah. Don't don't buy everything i've Saw. I've seen so much disinformation Today it's overwhelming.

In fact i think i actually by the Way i retweeted a photo earlier i'm not Going to take it down but it was Someone selling a Doll looking thing of charlie Kirk being assassinated selling It and laughing about it you Know and all this.

And i just thought that's Horrible. This is why i'm not a free speech Absolutist meaning That every kind of speech Is always permissible. I actually think there's Such things as treason and you have blasphemy Laws i think those things have always Been in effect.

Uh there it's A basic standard but You can't have if you have a Public square if you have a medium for communication You can't undermine that medium. Is basically the idea there.

And.

Um and so that is a Direct undermining that is It's egregious and Anyway it may have been a i generated Someone messaged me and said i think that's a i generated. I'm thinking wow ai is getting pretty good then.

Um but There were so many other things i saw today Related to charlie kirk That i know we're not True so especially tyler robinson. Uh this gentleman who I don't think i can call him a gentleman this Evil wicked person who Assassinated charlie kirk.

And uh you know Screenshots of him. Uh here or there are speaking videos Of him speaking at events and none of them were him. And we just got to be careful of that. In the fog of war i mean it was so Much it was like the beginning of remember.

The worst example of this was the beginning of the ukrainian War ukrainian russian war. Where uh you you had All these fake stories In in the fog of war at the beginning. And i saw something similar today Out there.

Okay so um let Us continue here. One last okay this is seriously the last Question. Very thankful for charlie kirk's life influence. Also very thankful for your podcast john. Is There a problem in the church if our generation is so heavily Dependent upon online christian Influences.

Yes In a sense i mean there is a Dependency to some extent i was seeking To fill fulfill when i started My podcast not that i thought i'd ever get Any real traction. I just thought for my Specific school which was Southeastern.

I wanted them to Be accountable for things that were happening There and no one else was going to do it. And i had gone through what i thought were the proper channels And talk to professors and no one was going to do it.

And it sort of left me In this place of being a supplemental Voice and i still see myself as A supplemental voice but i think things are changing A bit the landscape has changed the situation Has changed and i've become a little more of a generalist.

And as i Become more involved in ministry And focused in that direction you're going to see A lot more i think bible Content and ministry Related content and Then just general news content. Also although i keep An eye on big eva i always keep that Eye open but At this point i just i'm so Disgusted with the Evangelical industrial complex.

Because the people That are in power retain that Power even if you expose them. I was behind In part at least Some of the documentaries that have been coming out. David platt jd greer These things are so Damning they should take those guys out Of a position of leadership but they don't.

And i still think it's worth it to make those Things for those who care about the truth. But it's just obvious to me We have a very corrupt institution In this country and it's not just big Eva quote unquote.

I think it's all Kinds of institutions and that's part of the reason People turn to online voices. Problem with online voices is You're only seeing one side of a person Right you don't know me the way that The people in my local church know me for example.

And if Someone is a good actor and if someone Is kind of grifty they can Easily take advantage of you if they just speak Your emotional language and if all you're Relying on is your intuition so I recommend people Make sure that they learn how to Assess information for the truth.