April 24, 2026 Show with Farshid Razaee on “How God’s Sovereign Providence in a Newspaper Printing of the Sermon on the Mount Lead a Muslim to Salvation in Jesus Christ”

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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and the rest of humanity living on the planet earth, who are listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Friday on this 24th day of April 2026.

Two years ago, when I was having some serious technical difficulties with my iMac, I made a public announcement in social media requesting an urgent need for assistance. And out of the blue, a brother responded, but although he was unable to bring the difficulty to a full fix, there was a connection that was made.

And two years later, when I also made an announcement on social media that I was looking for Iranian-born former Muslims who had converted to Christ to interview on my program, that same individual responded to that announcement, and he is my guest today.

And I didn't even realize until yesterday, I think it was, that these individuals are the same person, that he had tried to help me two years ago with an iMac problem. But my guest today is Farshid Rezaei, and he is Iranian by birth, raised in the religion of Islam and saved by the sovereign grace of a holy God, today a Reformed Baptist and campus minister with the organization called PRISM, which stands for Pittsburgh Region International Student Ministries.

And today he's going to be addressing how God's sovereign providence led a newspaper in Iran to print the sermon on the mount leading a Muslim to Jesus Christ and saving his soul. Hallelujah. It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Trip and Zion Radio, Farshid Rezaei.

Welcome, brother.

Hi, Chris, and let me also say hi to everyone who's listening live. I consider it an honor to be interviewed today, and I hope that the story of how God changed my life would encourage those who are listening to it.

Amen. And I am just also praising God for his providence in coordinating and orchestrating and decreeing that you and I would meet, although we have not yet met face to face other than through the computer screen here.

And it's also a double pleasure knowing that a brother who I've already interviewed twice who's going to be my guest on Monday, Pouyan Mershahi, has nothing but the highest regards for you, and he was very thrilled that I'm interviewing you today.

So that confirmed even more strongly that this was a providential gift from God to have you on the program. Well, first of all, before we get into your testimony, tell us more about PRISM and all that you do and all that it stands for.

Sure. So PRISM, as you mentioned, stands for Pittsburgh Region International Student Ministries. Here in Pittsburgh, there are at least 13 ,000 international students studying at universities. Most of them are at Carnegie Mellon and also at Pitt University.

So they come here for their studies, master's, PhD, postdoc. And so they have spent three to five or even more years here in Pittsburgh. So our organization ministers to them. We do a lot of things for them.

The biggest thing that we do is when the new international students are coming to Pittsburgh, our organization is connected to like 40 different churches. And people from these churches, they bring furniture to us and they donate it.

And then we collect them, we sort them out. And then through the universities, we tell the international students that are coming for the first time, on this particular day, come and we will give you free furniture.

We realize that many of them that come here and if they have found a place to live, the apartments may be empty. So having a table and a chair is something that they appreciate. We take our students on a trip like state parks.

We take them to Niagara Falls. We have a class that international students can practice English. And we have multiple Bible studies for beginners, for those who are familiar with the Bible. We have women's Bible study also happening.

And we are very clearly Christian organization. But of course, we are welcoming everyone with whatever belief. And we do have Christian content in much of what we do. So if I can give you just two other examples.

Every other Friday, we have an event called Open House. And those 40 churches that I mentioned, one of them volunteers and they bring dinner. So students come, they eat dinner together. We have group discussion.

We have games. And then we have a talk about one of the themes of the Bible. But because many of those people attending that event might not have read the Bible at all, we try to keep it simple, maybe not use Christian jargon.

But we tell them that you can come next Friday if you want to know more about what the Bible teaches. So the other two Fridays, we have a house fellowship, which is a Bible study. And the other one, which is one of the, I would say, very important ones, is that international students, they come and sign up for our connection program.

Basically, in this program, we have American volunteers and we have international students. And they can connect with each other through four different ways. One is friendship. They just want to spend time with someone as they are away from family and friends.

We have for English, if they want to improve their English, talking to a native speaker. We have one for mentorship, if they are looking for a mentor. And we also have one-to-one Bible study. Right now, we have 300 of those connections.

So I'm really, really thankful that God led me to Pre-Med. Because I just love it and it doesn't feel like a job. And I know it's a privilege that many people do not have. Because they need the money, they have to do something that they don't like.

But for me, out of God's grace, I leave home every day in the morning to go and do something I love. And so, I'm really thankful.

All righty. Well, if anybody wants to find out more about PRISM, you can go to their website, which is prismpgh .org. And God willing, we will repeat that later on in the program. Well, I am dying to hear more about your testimony, starting in the earliest days of your youth.

Having been born and raised for a period of your life, a significant period of your life, in Iran. Or Iran, as I believe may be a more appropriate way of pronouncing it. But if you could, start at the beginning in Iran.

Absolutely. So, I was born into a Muslim family. And in Iran, right from the first grade of elementary school, they start teaching you about Islam. And I didn't know a single thing about Christianity, except what my Muslim teachers were telling me.

And Jesus is only a man, he's only a prophet, he wasn't God, he did not die on the cross, and the Bible has been corrupted. And I remember that in first grade of elementary school, I was actually doing so well in the Islamic courses that my parents signed me up for an extra class.

And it was about knowing more about Quran and Islam, and I even went for a competition to recite Quran. As I was growing up, as I mentioned, much of the education right from the elementary school is about teaching about Islam.

There is one thing, I don't go into too much detail about that, but Iran is, if I'm not mistaken, one or maybe one of the two only Shiite Muslim majority countries in the world. So the other Muslim world are mostly Sunni.

And according to the Shiite version of Islam, they believe that after Muhammad, there were 12 Imams that were put in charge of the government, the society, and of course for Islam as well. And the first Imam is Muhammad's cousin called Ali, second and third Imams are Ali's sons Hassan and Hussein, and after that it would be father, son, father, son, until the Imam number 12.

And for Shiite Muslims, the third Imam called Hussein is revered a lot. He was a grandson of Muhammad, and Shiite Muslims believe that he was in a battle happening in the country Iraq, which lasted 10 days.

And so the Imam and his followers were 72 people, the enemy had thousands. After those 10 days, everyone on the side of the Imam was killed, and so Imam himself being the last one. And so they said he's been martyred like that.

So every year for those 10 days, Shiite Muslims, they were black, men and boys, as nice, they go out on the street. And they join a procession that starts at a particular place and goes around that neighborhood.

And what they do is that they are given these chains that they can hold in their hand. And then they use that to beat themselves on both sides behind their shoulders. And this is to show sorrow and mourning because that Imam had been martyred.

And I was six, seven years old, like any other boy, I would go for that procession. And I remember that I intentionally hit my heart there. So when I got home, it was bruised on my back. And I was so happy.

I said, what is happening to me? Because I suffered for the sake of that Imam. And that's something that happened every year. And I would, I would join that. According to Iranian constitution, Christianity is considered as a legal religion.

But it is only for two groups of people. And there is this group who are Armenians. They've migrated from Armenia many years ago. And then there is a small group of Assyrians. But they are allowed to exercise, practice their faith, go to church.

But of course, they shouldn't talk about Christianity to the rest of the population. And in Iranian television, the only thing I ever saw which was connected somehow to Christianity was on Christmas Eve.

They would show this cartoon based on Charles Dickens' Christmas Carol. They would play that and they wouldn't even play the whole thing. They would cut parts of it that they didn't like. And then at the end, they would say, Merry Christmas to Christians living in Iran.

And I am in high school. And up to this day, I don't know why. And something happened that completely changed my life. And since childhood, I always loved reading books. My mother from a very young age, she would buy me books, novels, and I would read through that.

At that time, there were two major newspapers in Iran. So my mother would buy one of them every day and she and I would be reading it. So I am in high school and it is near Christmas. And in that newspaper, half a page, Sermon on the Mount was published.

And up to this day, I don't know why. I have never heard of that happening before or after. But I remember that right at the very beginning of that half a page, it said something like, Since we are approaching the birthday of the prophet Esau, that's how we call Jesus.

We decided to publish what is known as one of the greatest sermons ever preached, which is taken from Matthew and Luke. And that passage had such a huge impact on me. But if at that point someone had asked me like, Farshid, what do you think was unique or special about what you read?

I wouldn't be able to tell you. But now in hindsight, I can tell you there were three things. The first one is when Jesus talks about, You know it was written, you shall not commit adultery. I tell you, you look at a woman with lust, you committed adultery in her heart.

And he said the same thing about murder and anger. So Jesus is saying it is not just a physical act, But it was also going in our minds and hearts, which are also important. And Islam was something that only dealt with the external.

Second issue was the issue of hypocrisy. When Muslims pray every day, as part of that prayer, they kneel on the ground. And they put their foreheads on the ground. But they don't do it directly. There is something round made up of different materials.

They put it there and they put their forehead on that. And I remember there were people in Iran, That would take that round thing and push it against their forehead. So next day at work, people would say, Look at this man, he's prayed for such a long time.

It left a mark on his forehead. Then I read, yeah, I read Sermon on the Mount. And it's like Jesus is saying the exact opposite. You want to pray, don't do it in front of people for them to notice. If you fast, put oil on your head.

Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. And so it was something completely new to me. And the third one, which I would say the most important one, As a Muslim, I was told that if you, There's a list of things to do and a list of things you shouldn't do.

If you check all the boxes, And this second part, I know many Christians haven't heard of, If you check all the boxes and God shows you mercy, Then you can go to heaven. I don't think any human being can read Sermon on the Mount And say, yes, I can do that.

So I didn't immediately become a Christian, But that was my first encounter with Christian faith. And at that time, Internet wasn't accessible in Iran, And Bible wasn't permitted to be sold. So I caught that half a page of newspaper, And that was my only Bible for so many years.

I did my bachelor's and master's both in English literature. When I first studied that, And again, I chose that field because I love reading books. So one of my professors told us, If you want to study English literature, You should know two things really well.

One is Greek mythology, And the other one is the Bible, Because of all the allusions to the Bible and Greek mythology. So I didn't have a physical Bible, But I read a lot of novels and poems that had allusions to the Bible.

One of my lecturers, she had a U .S. green card. So she lived six months in Iran and then six months in the U .S. So one time when she was leaving for the U .S., I said, when you're coming back, can you buy me a Bible?

And she did. And so that's how I got hold of my first reading of the Bible. And when I was doing my master's, Our lecturer gave us this article on John Milton's, And I remember there was this one paragraph that said, In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve rejected God.

If God is to be just, humanity should be punished. If God is to be merciful, humanity should not be punished. The only way for God to be just and merciful at the same time, Is that he pays the price in his son.

That for me was like the last thing that I needed. And I was like, it makes sense. Christianity is true. And the first thing I did, I went to my mother and I said, Mom, I want to buy a cross and put it around my neck.

My mom was like, no way. If your dad finds out, he's going to be very angry. Eventually I convinced her and I bought it. So when my dad was leaving home to go to work, I would bring it out of my shirt.

When he was coming back home, I would bring it back in. And that was the beginning of leading a double life, Having to hide it from family, friends, neighbors, colleagues. And that wasn't easy. The only Christian I knew in my life in Iran, Was one of the university lecturers.

She was Armenian. And so she was an Orthodox Christian. So one day I went to her and I said, I want to become a Christian. What should I do? She said, Farshid, you have the Bible. Go and read it in the privacy of your home.

And don't talk about becoming Christian Because you put yourself and your family at risk. So as I mentioned, she was the only Christian I knew. And sadly, she was that discouraging. One day I decided to go to a church.

So this church is in Tehran and it's the biggest church in Tehran. And it's an Orthodox church for the Armenians. As I wanted to go in, the security guard stopped me And said, you cannot go in. I guess because it's a small group of them, Since my face wasn't familiar, He said he may not be an Armenian.

So I translated to him. And I asked him, is there any chance you can let me in? He said, only after the service is over. So I walked around the church for a couple of hours, Eventually went back and he let me in.

And I went in and I sat in one of the church pews. And immediately I saw this lady walking toward me. And she said, what is this bush in your hand? And I said, it's an English Bible. She said, I'm very sorry, But only Bibles in the Armenian language are allowed.

And you're obviously talking about Armenia, the ethnic group, Not theological Armenians.

Yeah.

Okay. Just wanted to clarify.

Yes, yes, yes. So then she came and said, Only Bibles in the Armenian language is allowed. And I honestly did not understand why she would say such a thing. But after I left Iran, I heard that there were a couple of churches in Tehran That they were offering their services in Persian, Which is my language.

The police had gone to them and they said, If you don't stop these two services, We will close down the whole church. And that's why she was anxious about it. Life as a Christian, Having to live a double life, It was difficult on many occasions.

And in Iran, It doesn't really matter what you study in university. If you're studying biology, literature, It doesn't matter. You have to pass several credit hours of Islamic teaching. Now, I would have to sit in a classroom Where a Muslim clergyman come in And misrepresent Christianity, Talk bad about Christianity.

And not only I had to listen to them, I had to write them on the exam paper to pass. When I started work, It became even more difficult. I worked as a university lecturer for about five years In two universities.

And what I remember was that at lunchtime, All my colleagues and I who had offices along a corridor, They locked the door. They would go downstairs. There was a big room so that they could pray. I didn't want to do that, So I locked myself inside the room.

So they would change. I'm praying inside my office. And I had to do that five days a week for months. And every day it became more stressful. And one time I remember that My colleagues and I were taken to a smaller town for a conference.

And as you know, when Muslims want to pray, They first go and do this washing, Call it ablution. And everyone went to the washroom to do that, And I went there. But I didn't want to do it, So I went inside the toilet, And I locked myself in.

And then I thought to myself, The prayer would be 15 -20 minutes. And just before the prayer was about to finish, I opened the door, ran outside, And I stood outside that hall. So when they were coming out, They would think that I was actually in that room.

And that was like having to hide in the toilet. It was very humiliating. And also, again, it's stressful. It's so difficult for someone to have An inside thing facing Christ, But having to pretend to be a Muslim, Because your life can be easily at risk.

And I remember one of my favorite times during the year Was Christmas time. There is a street in Tehran Where there are six or seven shops Run by people from Armenia. And near Christmas, They would put in Christmas trees, Decorations, and things like that.

And I remember for Christmas, I would go there, And I would just walk up and down, Looking at those shop windows. And I would buy a donut, Make myself a cup of coffee, And I celebrated Christmas on my own.

And it was a time of joy, But it was also very lonely. So all of that brought me to a point That I realized I cannot live in Iran anymore. I couldn't continue living like that. So I left Iran, and I went to Malaysia.

And when I say I left Iran, That means I left my family, friends, jobs, All the things that I had in Iran. Malaysia is still a Muslim-majority country, But compared to Iran, there is way more freedom.

And one of the reasons I chose Malaysia Was that with Iranian passports, There are very few countries that we can visit Without applying for a visa beforehand. So when I went to Malaysia in 2010, At the airport, they would give you A three-month social visit pass.

And when I got there, I was either in the capital Or in areas around the capital, Kuala Lumpur. I decided to go to church on a Sunday, So what I did was, I went on Google, And let me tell you this first, One of the courses I had to study in Iran As English literature, It was called The History of English Literature.

So there was this very thick book, And the beginning of every chapter Was the political, social condition of the country. And then they would put extracts from, Excerpts from the different works of art That were written during that time.

So because of that, I knew about reformation, And the protestant movement and all that. So when I got to Malaysia, I only knew two churches. I knew Roman Catholic, and I knew Anglican. So I just Googled Anglican Church in Kuala Lumpur, The first we launched, that was the church I went to.

And as I approached, I noticed these men Wearing white robes, standing outside. So I went to one of them, and I said, Can I talk to your senior pastor? And he said, sure. Our service is about to begin, So why don't you come and sit inside?

At the end of the service, the pastor will come and talk to you. So I went in, and that was my first ever Experience of being in a church service. I cannot describe to you how it felt. It was surreal.

At the end of the service, This pastor came, sat next to me, And said, how can I help you? I said, I want to become a Christian. And he said, where are you from? I said, I'm from Iran. And then he suddenly looked at me with these wide open eyes, And said, are you sure?

That's not easy. And I said, yes, I'm sure. I left everything. So, yes, I'm sure. So he passed my contact info to one of the other pastors. And this pastor, Pastor Donald Rudge, He started discipling me.

He started teaching me about the Bible. I went through some training that Other people in the church were going through. But for me, he was doing it one-to-one. So we had more time for that.

And how old were you?

28.

Approximately what year was this?

2010.

Continue.

So, yes, he started teaching me, And then he became my closest friend in Malaysia. I'll actually tell you something about him later on. So what happened was, I think it was either the first or the second Christmas, I was in Malaysia.

I attended four different services. And one of them was like an evangelistic guest night. One was evening, then midnight, And then another one the next day. And people looked at me and said, Harshit, how come everywhere we go, we see you?

I said, Do you know how many Christmases I missed back in Iran? So that was there for me to make up for that. And in Malaysia, The government has not signed The Refugee Convention. Because of that, refugees in Malaysia Are not legally allowed to work.

The government doesn't care how you can survive. They don't let you do that. And when I was leaving Iran, I knew that I would never be able to go back. So what happened was, in Malaysia, I applied for a refugee status.

The only thing Malaysian government allows Is for this organization called UNHCR, United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. So they will process your case, But they don't provide any help either.

So you have to find a place to live. You have to find a way to earn money, But every day being anxious in case the immigration officers Come to your workplace, arrest you Because you don't have a work permit, and put you in jail.

That was the daily life of refugees. So when I first got there, There were 150 ,000 registered refugees in Malaysia. And there were so many others Who were not registered. And most were from Myanmar. So it wasn't an easy life.

When I was thinking of how to earn money, I decided to teach English privately. So for about 4 years, I would go to the students' homes, So the government wouldn't know about it, And I would be teaching English.

But the problem was finding students was very difficult. And I would print flyers, And I would put it on the walls. But I only found students, like one or two, through that. Because most people, most families, They prefer to get someone, a teacher, Who is official, who is connected to a language center.

So to trust me on my own, Having no connection and then being illegal, It wasn't something that people would do. But I found students through word of mouth. When one family recommended me to another one.

When I was living in Iran, My dad had a very long history of depression. I remember he used to take Maybe 16, 17 tablets per day. And I could see, As a result of that, he was very addicted to those medications.

And I still remember, One day the doctor told him, Out of all these pills, just this particular one, Don't take one, take half. My dad called the doctor the next day, crying, Saying, I can't go back, I don't feel well.

I can't go back to that one. Then my dad got a stroke. And the doctor called us. I have only one sister. So the doctor told my mom and I and my sister, Don't tell him about that because it will aggravate his depression.

Then my dad got shingles, Which would affect one half of the body. So he lost hearing in one of his ears. And one day he was in the bedroom, He just fell backwards. Because it had affected the middle section of the ear.

So he lost his balance. He held on to something so he didn't fall down. But after that, my mom, my sister and I had to follow him everywhere he went. To make sure if he falls back, He wouldn't injure himself.

And that was how my dad was when I was in Iran. So when I left Iran, In Malaysia, my mother told me that My dad was diagnosed with both Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. One of them is horrible enough. But he had two of them.

And then he had to be hospitalized in an ICU. I remember my mother told me They have connected a tube to help him breathe. And a tube to feed him. So he was in ICU for four months. So my mom would go to the hospital every day.

And then in the evening she would come back home and call me Using internet. And she said, Farshid, your dad was like this today. And after those four months, my father passed away. And it's one thing to lose your dad.

It's another thing not being able even to attend his funeral. And I remember I was having a video chat On the day that my dad had passed. And my mom and sister were there. And some other family members were sitting farther than them.

And the only thing that I could tell my mom and sister was I'm sorry I cannot be there with you. Four months after that, My grandmother passed away. And after that, I have lost One aunt and two uncles.

Being far from them, not being able to be Around my family. And many friends asked me this question. They said, Farshid, do you regret leaving Iran and coming to Malaysia? Given all these things. And I said, look, I miss my family very much.

I love my family very much. No doubt about that. But I don't have any regrets because ultimately Although I really love my family members and friends Christ should be at the core and center of my life.

And that doesn't mean I stop loving my family. It's just that my allegiance should be to Christ. Rather than being again in that kind of situation Leading a double life. And after those four years That I taught English privately I saw this same Pastor Donner, I mentioned to you He gave me the book Chase for Christ by V .S. Strouvel.

And that was the first time I got to know about apologetics. So I started reading books And watching debates and lectures. And I remember that Because of the Like the talks on YouTube About different religions and things like that.

So I told Pastor Donner, as I said Train me to become an apologist. And so I started studying that for like three years. And one of the things I was doing was When I watch a debate between A Christian Muslim or a Christian Atheist.

After the Atheist or the Muslim said something I would pause the video. And then I would tell myself Tarshid if you were in that situation and a Muslim why said this. Are you prepared to give an answer to it?

And then I would listen to the Christian response. But I wouldn't take that just as a service. I would check the Bible and see Oh yes, this is a biblical way to respond to that. So in 2014 Near the end of 2013 maybe My pastor called me and said Tarshid We want to do an engaging with Islam training.

I want you to co-lead that With another pastor. This was my first ever experience with ministry work. So we went for this class. It was eight weeks, two hours each session. And the other pastor had the first hour.

He would show a video of an Australian pastor Who would explain what Muslims believe. Second time of the class which was my turn I would play the devil's advocate. So I told the participants Look, I'm going to play a role of a Muslim.

And I'm going to bring up the same questions and objections That Muslims raise to see how prepared you are. But before we began I took them to 1 Peter 3 .15 and I said Look, and then he said we should always be prepared To give an answer to everyone for the reason for the hope that we have.

But he said you need to do it in gentleness and respect. That is your framework. When I'm playing the role of a Muslim that is not my framework. So regardless of what I tell you or how I talk to you. You should always answer me with gentleness and respect.

That was a lot of fun For me, I'm not sure about them.

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