F4F | Francis Chan's Undocumented Claims of Healing

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Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Roseborough. I am your servant in Jesus Christ.
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This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God. Now a little bit of a note here.
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Are you familiar with the kerfuffle, the drama, the controversy regarding Francis Chan?
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Apparently he was at Moody Bible Institute recently claiming that he was doing a mission trip in Myanmar and he went to a village and when he prayed to heal people, everybody he touched was healed.
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That's creating controversy. Controversy that Michael Brown has capitalized on.
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In fact, let me do this. By the way, go ahead and like the video, subscribe down below, ring the bell so you can be notified when we update the channel.
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But let me do this. Let me open this up. And back on February 13th, Michael Brown wrote on his social media, so Francis Chan and a team reached an unreached tribal village with the gospel and the sick were miraculously healed.
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And some critics, rather than rejoicing, are upset about the healing claims. Watch this for more hypercritical, for more on the hypercritical spirit.
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So he's capitalizing on the saying, oh look, the hypercritics. And by the way, apparently I'm a hypercritic. Pointing out that Christ alignment is engaging in fortune -telling and there's no qualitative difference between their destiny cards and tarot cards, that makes me a hypercritic in Michael Brown's book.
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But so he's he's saying, oh look, the hypercritics are upset. Actually, that's a misrepresentation.
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That's a straw man argument. Now, I'm apparently one of the hypercritics and I heard
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Francis Chan's claim. And in fact, why don't we do this? Why don't we take a look at Francis Chan's claim that he made?
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And this was published on February 11, 2020 on the Moody Bible Institute website.
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And let's take a look at the claim made by Francis Chan and we'll note what's missing in the claims.
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That's kind of the issue. But let's listen in as Francis Chan regales us with the story.
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People started coming forward for healing. Every person
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I touched was healed. You guys, okay. Alright, so he he's in Myanmar and everybody come he touches is healed.
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This is his claim. This is, this is craziness to me.
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I have never experienced this in 52 years.
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Now, I'm gonna note that in the archives of Fighting for the Faith in our podcast, we've covered the fact that Francis Chan has been drifting theologically for a while.
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You know, embracing IHOP, criticizing those who would offer a biblical critique of Rick Warren and others.
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And so already I'm skeptical. Already I'm skeptical. But I'm gonna remind
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Michael Brown of a standard that he and Jennifer LeClaire have come up with when it comes to extraordinary claims like this.
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But we, I digress. Let's go back to Francis Chan here. I'm talking like a little boy and a little girl who were deaf.
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We lay hands, she starts crying and smiling. Again, these are not Christians.
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These are not people who even heard about Jesus. And she's freaking out.
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And we're like, lay hands on your little brother. You know, we lay hands on him. And he starts hearing for the first time.
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Like, you guys, this is out of my comfort zone. This is stuff I'd read about. But I'm going, man, it happened.
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It happened. I mean, just stuff like left and right. I'm going, this isn't.
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And that's why I'm going, God, I don't want to leave this. This is, I mean, I thought
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I had faith. But my faith was at another level. And I think there's some things that contributed.
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Some of it was just faith in His Word. That when Jesus says, I'm in you, and you are in me.
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To take that literally. Seriously, to take it literally. I mean, think about that passage in John 14.
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All right, so you get the idea. Everybody he touched was healed.
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That's the claim. Now, let me go back to Michael Brown's straw man argument that the hypercritics, rather than rejoicing, are upset about the healing.
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No, I'm not upset. I'm kind of scratching my head going, where's the evidence?
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And if you think that's just outrageous, how dare you, Rose? Bro, you're a cessationist. You're here.
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Francis Chan has told you he's healed everybody he touched and you want evidence. Well, actually,
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I'm not the one who came up with that standard. I would remind you of what Jennifer LeClair and Michael Brown talked about back on May 15th, 2017, as Dr.
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Brown was reaching out to critics in the wake of, well,
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Jennifer LeClair's sneaky squid spirit doctrine being disseminated and me going on his program and challenging that and saying there's no biblical reason to believe in a sneaky squid.
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So Michael Brown had Jennifer LeClair on 10 days later after I appeared on his program challenging
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Jennifer LeClair and the sneaky squid. And they talked about unaccountable profits and the necessary evidence regarding public claims to healing.
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Yeah, let's see what the two of them said back then. And how do you feel about lack of accountability among certain prophetic people in the charismatic movement?
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Does that concern you? It does concern me. We call them lone rangers or renegades where they sort of spout off.
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We see a lot of prophetic opinion, a lot of subjective experiences that aren't even within the bounds of reality of Scripture.
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In other words, there's some things that we don't maybe find in Scripture. The Bible says that if we recorded all the works that Jesus did, there would not be enough books in the world for all the books they would offer.
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But there are some things that just defy Scripture. It's not that you can't find it in Scripture, that you can't find the principle in Scripture, you can't find any indication of it, it just defies
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Scripture. And we're seeing some of that in prophetic ministry, where people are giving angels very, very strange names.
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I've spoken out against some of these things. People are selling prophetic words. All this is very troublesome to me, and I've been very vocal about it.
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Yeah, that coming from the woman who charges money for prophetic activations. Yeah, so there's one thing to say this is extra -biblical.
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In other words, we don't find this specifically in the Bible. You could argue that the use of musical instruments is not explicitly found in the
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New Testament, but we find it in most of our churches. It's not un -biblical, but it would be un -biblical to say that Satan is
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Lord. So we understand those differences. And Jennifer, within Charisma itself...
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Now, at the time of this interview, Jennifer LeClair was still the editor -in -chief of Charisma Magazine.
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So that's an important little bit of information. Let's say someone writes in, and they say they have this amazing healing testimony, and it's the most incredible thing.
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Do you require documentation before you print that? All right, so there's the question.
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Somebody writes in the incredible healing testimony. Do you require documentation?
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Let's see how they decide this. It depends. If they're saying they raise the dead, yes, we will get a doctor's report.
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If they raise the dead, okay, yes. If there's a, you know, Randy Clark has a great project where he's gone around and documented those kind of healings.
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We do ask for documentation. Now, someone said... So they do ask for documentation. Jennifer LeClair asks for documentation.
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That, you know, all right. So healing claims, do you ask for documentation? It depends. But yes, we do ask for documentation.
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So if you have a headache, you go through a healing hind, and your headache is healed, no, we don't require documentation for that.
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Why? Because there was no previous documentation that they had a headache. You know, to teach a principal, as long as they're not naming names, no, we don't ask for that level of indication.
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But if they're saying cancer was healed, a dead person was raised. All right, cancer healed, dead person raised.
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How about a deaf girl now able to hear? You're going to know that's a big miracle.
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In situations like that, what does Jennifer LeClair require? I think absolutely we get verification.
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So there it is. So even Jennifer LeClair, when she was the editor -in -chief of Charisma magazine, if somebody came to her regarding a huge healing miracle, before they would publish it, they would require documentation to prove that it took place.
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Cancer, raising of the dead, a biggie, you know, like a deaf girl being able to hear for the first time in her life.
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Those are biggies. So I would note that Michael Brown, going after the hyper critics, man, hyper critics, saying that rather than rejoicing with Francis Chan, the critics are upset about the healing claims.
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I'm not upset about the healing claims. I didn't see any documentation or any reason to believe the healing claims.
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Francis Chan should be required to put forward the documentation that had he submitted it to Jennifer LeClair back in 2017, she would have required of him before it would have been published in Charisma magazine.
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You know, I'm just saying. So when it comes to Francis Chan, I can't say it happened or didn't happen, but I've seen no documentation to say that it has.
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And Francis Chan is theologically messed up and been drifting for a while.
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So already I'm super duper skeptical. But all of that being said,
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I've been given no documentation to validate this. And if he put this forward back in 2017, when
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Jennifer LeClair was the editor in chief of Charisma magazine, she would have required in her own words, documentation to prove that the miracle took place.
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