Aliens, UFOs and the Evolution Connection

I'm Terry Camerizal, and it's my privilege to get to introduce our speaker. But for a few quick announcements first, this is the Creation Fellowship Santee. It's our virtually there presentation that we've been doing all through the summer.

We've been having a good time making delicious lemonade, as I'd like to say, with the lemons that life's been giving us. Thank you to God for his grace and goodness. So just as a disclaimer for those of you who are here in Zoom, just a little heads up that we are recording.

We're recording on the Zoom platform. We are also for the first time live streaming on Facebook. So we're excited to see how this works and be able to reach a bigger audience, hopefully, with some interesting truths and information.

So if you are in the Zoom chat, just remember that we ask you to keep yourself on mute while Gary's giving his presentation. And it's best that you keep your camera off, of course. If you do turn it on, just make sure not to do anything distracting, such as turning on and off lights or standing up with no pants on or spinning around in your chair.

So, okay, with that, let's go ahead. And I'm happy to introduce our speaker, Gary Bates. He's originally from Australia, which you will hear in his presentation tonight. And he's the CEO of Creation Ministries International U .S.

He's based in Atlanta, Georgia, and he's been married to his wife, Frances, for 39 years. He is on the editorial team for Creation Magazine, which has subscribers in over 110 countries, and is also the producer of CMI's award-winning documentary Evolution's Achilles Heels.

Gary has either co-authored or authored seven books on the creation versus evolution debate and is best known for his book, Alien Intrusion, UFOs, and the Evolution Connection, which is the only creation book ever to have made the Amazon top 50 bestseller list.

It has since been made into a major motion picture. So I know some of you in attendance have seen that. And it's been shown in theaters worldwide. Gary was also awarded an honorary doctorate degree in creation science from Whitefield Theological Seminary for his specialist research in this area.

So with that, we are happy to have Gary Bates here to talk to us about Aliens, UFOs, and the Evolution Connection. Go ahead, Gary.

Creation Ministries and the Scientific Case for a Biblical Worldview

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The DNA Molecule, Evolution, and the Origin of Life

So we're gonna try to distill the contents of this 420 page book. It's now in its eighth printing. It's been updated several times over the years, but it is still very current. It gives a good historical perspective of the UFO phenomenon, what people see, what they experience.

We were just saying before we started, I think now it would be in the hundreds of people that I've met, who've seen things in the sky, or who even would claim that they've had encounters with aliens or have been abducted, et cetera.

But let's go back to the origin of all this. One of the world's most famous evolutionists, Carl Sagan. Some of you, my generation are a bit older, might remember his TV show, Cosmos. His book, in fact, was one of the largest selling science books of all time.

But on that TV show, the waves were crashing on the shore. And he said, the cosmos is all that is, ever was, or ever will be. We'd call him a materialist, not as in acquiring wealth for yourself, but his idea is that matter is all there ever was or ever will be.

But for materialists, there's still a perplexing question, particularly for evolutionists. How did life begin? We can't go back 3 billion years ago, as I believe, to look at this warm pond where the first chemicals got together to form the first amino acids and the first protein and all life generated from them.

Because when we look today at the cell, modern science, our technology has revealed just incredibly complex layers of information. Cells are described as cities. They have highways, communication networks.

And all of this is designed and coded by what is called the DNA molecule. In the nucleus of all living things is this chemical, or if you like organic chemical hard drive that contains lots and lots of information.

If we were to type out the letters on our human DNA, a single strand of DNA, we'd have about 3 billion letters. So imagine piling a thousand Bibles on top of one another and making sure that all the letters were in exactly the right orders to tell the cell to build a human being and do all the things that it does.

So with the discovery of the DNA molecule has mainly been attributed to these two guys, Watson and Crick. Francis Crick there is seated. He was an atheist actually. He said one of the reasons he entered the sciences was to disprove the notion of a supernatural creator.

But when he got confronted with all of this information on the DNA molecule, information letters in a coded ordered sequence do not appear randomly in the book you're reading, do they? It's always a sign that a greater source of intelligence put it there.

But he was an atheist. He didn't believe in God. So look at this. I wrote this article for Creation Magazine back in 2003 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the discovery of the DNA molecule. But a lot of people don't know.

So Francis Crick, he's postulated that the aliens seeded life on earth. How about that? It's not a new idea. And so quite simply, he believes in evolution. So evolution must have occurred elsewhere in this 14 billion year old universe.

Those aliens became so highly evolved and advanced in their technology. They visited the earth and seeded life here and all the coding problems in the DNA were sorted out. That's kind of, to be honest, become mainstream science today.

When people look at the complexity of the DNA molecule, it does scream design. So as this little guy says, if life evolved on earth, it must have evolved somewhere else. If earthlings didn't believe in evolution, he might not exist.

Of course, the other view, Christians might say, well, why couldn't God have created aliens? I'm going to deal with that as the last subject tonight, because it's one of the most problematic I find in dealing with.

But let's talk about this. So what is the big grand theory, if you want to call it that of evolution? Well, they would say in the beginning, there was nothing. I'm simplifying this and I'm not parroting it or ridiculing it.

It's entirely accurate. There was nothing. When I say nothing, there's no space, there's no matter, there's no galaxies, there's no atoms, there's nothing. And in this nothingness appears a quantum particle, a little kernel of energy, no bigger than the head of a pin that suddenly popped into existence out of nowhere and for no reason.

And this pinhead's worth of energy suddenly expanded and over billions of years became everything we see in the universe today. That's known as the Big Bang. And at CMI, Creation Ministries International, we like to point out, we're not anti-science, but we'd like to distill the views about the past into a well-defined area we would call historical science as opposed to operational science.

Go and boil a kettle, test what water boils at, you can repeat it, test it, observe it, develop ideas that you could use the steam for. That's the type of science that gives us technology and Zoom platforms.

But who was there to see a Big Bang 14 billion years ago? You can't repeat it. You can't test it. No one observed it. It's really not the type of science that people commonly understand. The type of science, operational science, you and I understand is, you can do in the present, you can repeat it, you can observe the results.

So, the father of that inflation theory of the Big Bang is a gentleman, a scientist by the name of Professor Alan Guff. And summarizing his work in Discover Magazine, on the front page, they wrote, the universe burst into something from absolutely nothing, zero, nada.

And as it got bigger, it became filled with even more stuff that came from absolutely nowhere. And again, not to ridicule, but to point out that when you are dealing with the past, both creationists and evolutionists have beliefs, ideas about the past.

We interpret data in the present. As this cartoon does say, we'll have a bit of fun. He says, let me get this straight. First, there was nothing, and then it exploded. And that is pretty much an accurate assessment of the Big Bang.

But think about it. In a Big Bang universe, if life evolved on the earth, it must have evolved countless times over. And they might believe that our earth, our Milky Way is in a relatively young part of the universe.

So there could be alien races out there, a million or billion years older than us on the evolutionary scale. So just imagine if there were a million or billion years advanced in their technology, could they build hyperdrive spaceships and visit the earth?

We're going to have a look at that. Now, of course, the other view is, we believe that God created. Of course, one of the most asked questions that skeptics like to point out is they say, well, if God created them, well, who made God?

But that's a misunderstanding about the nature of God. When we read the very first verse in the Bible, we all know this one, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. But let me take away that second part of that passage.

It says, in the beginning, God. That's implying that he was there before the universe that he made. Now, how can that be? Well, one of the reasons we ask who made is because everything we see in our physical universe.

Had a beginning.

In fact, this is known as the law of causality. And I can summarize it like this. Everything which has a beginning must have a cause.

Everything.

Think about the building you're in. Think about the tree outside. Even that rock on the ground, it had a beginning in time. We live in a time-space, a linear time-space universe. Therefore, it must have had a cause.

Now, whether you're a big banger or a creationist tonight, you would have to believe that the universe had a beginning. In fact, when the universe began, and we got stars and galaxies and a moon and an earth and a sun, which the earth rotates around the sun, we use those to measure time.

Now, time on earth a day is when the earth rotates. But if you lived on Venus, I think, I'm not sure, I think it's about 230 Venusian days would be equivalent to an earth day. So you use these physical bodies to define time for yourself.

But hang on. When there's no universe, there's no space, there's no physical bodies, no atoms, time doesn't exist. But the Bible says that's where God is. So in fact, God is actually a timeless being.

We understand that as Christians. He's a, for want of a better word, a supernatural being. The Bible says he's unique. Now, again, if you were a big banger or a creationist, well, think about this. The big bangers actually have their own supernatural events.

They can't say, well, you just default to the God of the Bible for solving everything. But when you believe that a universe came into being, that quantum particle out of nothing, as I said, it's your own supernatural event because it defies the very, very same physical laws that evolutionists appeal to.

You can't have something coming into being out of nothing. That is not science. But apparently that created everything. So just to highlight that our views about the past are really steeped in philosophy.

The Big Bang, Historical Science, and the Limits of Evolutionary Cosmology

So let's go forward. When we're looking out there, because of the idea of a big bang and life perhaps evolving elsewhere, that led to what we call the Origins Program, still in force today, which is to search, and you can see here, Dan Golden took over NASA after the Apollo missions, after Apollo 17 was the last one, and he stated one of their goals was to look for Earth-like planets that may be habitable or inhabited.

Kind of sounds like they're looking for Obi-Wan Kenobi living in a cave in Tatooine somewhere, but that's not the type of life they're after. That's why they've got rovers on Mars. They've discovered water on Mars.

They think, wow, where there's water, there might be life. But of course, as we discovered, DNA life is a lot more complex than just add H2O, isn't it? But the type of extraterrestrial life we see in science fiction movies that has, in fact, most people, polls suggest that 70 to 80 of people believe that aliens have visited the Earth and might even be visiting us now.

But when you see them tearing around in their faster-than-light spaceships, that's something known as the extraterrestrial hypothesis, or the ETH, that these physical aliens could be visiting the Earth in real physical spacecraft.

But just to put that into context, this became popular in the 50s and 60s with those B-grade movies. But as our understanding about the enormous size of the universe has increased, it's become obvious that aliens could not travel hundreds of thousands or even millions of light years across the universe, or even our own nuclear way.

You'd require multiple generations to make the trip. You'd have to raise their children to be nuclear physicists, to run the matter, anti-matter propulsion systems on board the ship, and then have to raise their children to do the same.

Again, context, our Milky Way, our sun is but one star in our Milky Way. We think there might be 2 billion stars like our sun just in our own galaxy. And they estimate our Milky Way as 100 ,000 light years across.

So just across our own galaxy, and there are billions of galaxies out there all containing potentially billions of stars. If you could travel at the speed of light, at 186 ,000 miles per second, it would take you 100 ,000 years to cross.

Of course, unless you've got one of these babies, right? So I'm a closet Trekkie, there you are, but I enjoy science fiction, but I do remember that it is science fiction. So these guys apparently travel at warp speed, multiple factors faster than light.

How feasible is this? This is a point of contention. Well, in the future, they'll have advanced technology.

Yes, that's true.

But will it enable you to fly faster than light around our Milky Way or the universe? So the retired space shuttle, that and the Saturn V rockets that took man to the moon are the most powerful vehicles that mankind has ever built.

If you can look here where my pointer is, just the two solid rocket fuel boosters, the SRBs as I call them on the space shuttle, firing those for just two minutes, okay? If you could convert that to electrical energy, you'd have enough power to fuel 87 ,000 homes for a full day.

The fuel pumps are so powerful, they could empty the average family-sized swimming pool in just 20 seconds, right? But at the very best speed of Apollo, okay? Remembering what I said about our Milky Way and our own sun, okay, the best speed of those craft, it would take you 870 ,000 years to reach the next star to our own sun in our own Milky Way, Proxima Centauri, which is 4 .3 light years away.

See, there are problems. As your speed increases, you're gonna get other problems.

Look at this.

I want you to imagine we've got something about the size of a softball, right? About just over a pound in weight. If I wanted to accelerate that to half the speed of light represented by the letter C, at that speed, it would take you 4 million years to reach Andromeda, which is the next galaxy outside our own Milky Way.

It's 2 million light years away, okay? Now, here's the problem. When you speed up, you're using all that energy to speed up in space, but when you get to your destination, you have to use exactly the same energy requirements to slow yourself down.

So you've just doubled the energy requirements. Well, hang on, you wanna get home back to the Earth, so you've gotta speed up and then slow down again. Every return trip requires a fourfold input of that energy.

Space is not empty. It's actually full of cosmic dust. And it's been estimated that there's about 100 ,000 dust particles for every cubic kilometer of space. So one-tenth of the speed of light, if you impacted a speck of dust, it would be like 10 tons of TNT impacting your spaceship.

A pea-sized object, you can see, would have the energy equivalents of 2 .2 atomic bombs. But again, science fiction to the rescue, right? On the Starship Enterprise, they have these things called deflector arrays.

So not only do they have to detect grains of dust when they're flying at warp speed, trillions of kilometers in advance of their ship, but if one impacts them, it's able to deflect them. But hang on, we've just now increased the energy requirements for the ship.

Not only the speed requirements, but we've now gotta produce all this energy. We've gotta produce an equal amount of opposing energy to deflect that object. Just as an example, here's a couple of panels just on the Hubble Space Telescope.

And you can see there, they're not very large, they're just specks of dust or something like that, but you can see how many there are. Now, the Hubble Space Telescope sits in what we call geosynchronous orbit.

In other words, it matches the Earth's rotation. I'm not sure, it's about 200 ,000 kilometers out. And doesn't fly it anywhere near the speed you would need to get even around our solar system, let alone the galaxy or the universe.

So it just indicates how much stuff there is. And this unfortunate episode was when the Space Shuttle Challenger was orbiting the Earth. It hit a flake of paint. Look at this, 0 .2 of a millimeter in size.

That's smaller than the head of a pin. And you can see the damage it caused to the window of the craft, a $50 ,000 reglazing bill. The flake was only traveling somewhere between three to six kilometers per second.

There are other problems, g-forces. As we sit here on Earth, we measure gravity using Earth's gravity as one g. So if you've ever seen those Red Bull pilots racing the fast planes or an Air Force pilot, when they do those very, very high speed turns and maneuvers, you'll see on their little meter, they might pull seven, eight g's.

But if you even pulled nine g's for several seconds, you would likely black out. So if you do watch Star Trek, and you know what I'm talking about, when Captain Jean-Luc Picard sits on board of the Starship Enterprise and he says, make it so, and they jump into warp speed, you'd be exerting millions of g's upon the occupants of the craft.

But again, this is why it's called science fiction, because you Trekkies out there know that the Starship Enterprise has things called inertial dampeners. Yes, it is science fiction. The distance problem is one of the biggest pain in the neck to science fiction writers.

That's why they come up with all sorts of novel and imaginative ideas to avoid the incredible distances and the time it would take to get there. Cosmic radiation is a problem. While we're here on Earth, we're protected from harmful cosmic radiation.

As you leave the Earth, you get increased dosages. In fact, even when you fly, you get zapped with a little extra cosmic radiation. And so as your speed increases also, the dosages increase. So likely as you approach the speed of light, you would probably get fried.

And here's the most intractable problem if you wanna get around the Milky Way within our lifetime. There's a maximum speed limit within our physical universe, and that is the speed of light. This was theorized by Einstein, and there's good operational experimental science to show that he was correct.

So you might remember from your physics classes at school, as you get faster, as your speed increases, what else increases? Your mass, that's right. And so you've gotta use ever increasing amounts of energy to now hurtle that increased mass becomes exponential.

So quite simply, you would never ever get to the speed of light in our physical universe because you would need an infinite amount of energy to do so. In other words, it's impossible. So in recent years, and if you're watching tonight and you're a bit of a UFO fan and groupie and not trying to be disrespectful, you might be saying, well, you know, these Christians are just gonna shoehorn it all into their Bible and their spiritual belief.

Well, as I said, I've been doing this for 20 years and there's been a quantum shift in the secular UFO movement. Most of them, yes, most of them do not believe in the extraterrestrial hypothesis anymore.

The most popular view is something called the inter-dimensional hypothesis. And this is actually what Bible believer Christians like me believe in. In fact, you'll see, although we agree about the nature of the phenomenon, we might disagree about its origin.

So the inter-dimensional hypothesis says that aliens might be visiting the earth from other dimensions, from other realms, and they don't appear physically, okay? It overcomes, you can see in the text there, the travel distance problems.

They claim to have evolved into some sort of spiritual state. They don't need physical bodies. They can kind of will themselves around the universe and enter into ours, et cetera. And it has taken on religious significance.

Again, you can't test things like this when aliens appear and disappear in your room at night. Now, when people point out criticisms with the UFO movement and some of the sightings, you get called a debunker.

I'm not a debunker. I do believe something's going on. As I said, I've met lots of people who've seen things, but here's a few popular examples. Mexico City, 1997, see this? These are not Photoshopped.

They were seen on radar. The Mexican Air Force confirmed it. Metallic objects buzzed downtown Mexico City. One of the most well-documented UFO events in history. In fact, thousands of people saw it. Video cameras looked at it.

In the movie, when you went to see it, you would recall we met a radar operator from the Washington UFO event in 1952, where over two separate weekends, these lights buzzed the Capitol Dome of the White House.

They merged into one object, broke apart, flew faster than the jets that were sent up to try to intercept them, et cetera. Never been explained until this day. Crop circles, don't have time to talk about them tonight, but quite simply, demonstrably shown to be made by men, even these very people, even these elaborate circles.

But what's interesting is when they build them, strange supernatural phenomena seems to accompany them. People claim they see visions or they get sick or even they're healed or balls of light appear. And I'm sure you're all familiar with Roswell.

And this is Roswell in New Mexico has kind of become the mecca for UFO enthusiasts. I've been there several times. In fact, I think I'm the only Bible-believing creationist ever to be invited to speak at the annual Roswell UFO convention down there.

And it's believed, of course, that an alien flying saucer crash landed there on a ranch in 1947, and the government whisked away the bodies and they harvested technology. That's why we have lasers today.

We got it from the aliens and so on. If you grab my book, Alien Intrusion, or just go to creation .com, type in Roswell under the Freedom of Information Act, we actually know what happened there. And you can find out more.

So there have been some big events, but Roswell is a town unlike any other. Mainstream businesses have jumped upon it and the whole town exists to perpetuate this UFO theme. So for example, have a look at the street lamps there outside the convention center.

And there's the Coke machine, my youngest daughter standing next to it like that. Even the McDonald's there is built in the shape of a flying saucer. So it's also big business, and no more so than in Hollywood.

And it's been a while since I've dated this, but I literally did this from memory. I didn't even have to research it. On the left two columns, you've got some of the highest grossing movies of all time.

And on the right there, you've got some of the most popular TV shows. In fact, at any one time, depending what's out there, and I should add, of course, the Marvel series, the Avengers, because guess what?

It's about aliens as well, isn't it? To that. But Star Trek, The Next Generation, which I've been joking about there, I believe is still the most syndicated TV show in human history. So it is very popular.

Sci-fi and the theme of aliens is really big business. And why do those aliens look different? You know, when you're watching Star Wars, I mean, and you look at Jabba the Hutt, besides the fact he looked like he ate too many pizzas, why does he look different?

Well, evolution is the key. In their planet's history, evolution may have taken a left turn or a right turn compared to the earth, and they've evolved differently. So even when we see these alleged benevolent aliens in these science fiction shows, the underlying theme there again is evolution.

What you believe about where we came from will determine your particular views. Now, as I said, I've met people. So these three images here were done by a lady who's an artist who claimed that one night aliens entered her bedroom and repeatedly did so.

She claimed it was a life-changing experience for her, but she also claimed to be a Christian. But because of her experience, and that's where we've got to be careful, we can have experiences, we can have spiritual experiences, but how do you interpret them?

Well, she used the experience to interpret her Bible, whereas what we should always do, of course, if the Bible is a source from the creator who is beyond our space and time and made it, well, then it would make sense to listen to him for interpreting these things.

But she says, for example, look, Elijah was raptured into a spaceship. UFOs part of the Red Sea, and Moses was spoken to in the burning bush by a radio transmitter beamed down from the mothership. You probably just had a giggle at that, but believe it or not, that is a very, very common view.

UFO believers like the Bible because they believe, again, that the fuddy-duddy Bible writers have mistakenly recorded these advanced visits from aliens as gods. And when I showed these pictures one night, I was at a church in Australia and a man stood up and he said, well, what's wrong with that?

He said, after all, Jesus was just an advanced extraterrestrial. By the virtue of his advanced technology, that's how come he could turn water into wine, perform the miracles and raise the dead. It wasn't because he was the creator.

So again, you can see how these beliefs are in fact challenging conventional Christian thought on the matter. Now, some of you might remember Steven Spielberg's third movie, but his second blockbuster after Jaws was something called Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

I remember watching it back in the day. I was not a Christian. I went to the drive-ins and because I wasn't a Christian at the time, it literally did have a religious effect on me. I got this idea of these grand utopian worlds and these advanced extraterrestrials overseeing human evolution.

But a lot of people don't know the lead investigator in the movie, if you can hark back, was a Frenchman. And he was based upon a real person. Spielberg paid homage to two UFO researchers, both scientists in the movie.

The first one was Dr. Jacques Vallée. And look at this, back in 1979, he wrote this. He said, belief in the reality of UFOs is spreading rapidly at all levels in society throughout the world. Books and periodicals appear at an ever increasing rate.

Documentaries and major films are now made by young people of the UFO generation. Spielberg case in point. And he said he grew up with these flying saucer stories of the 50s and 60s and they've moved into influential positions in the media.

If you've got a Hewlett Packard computer, they donate to SETI. Paul Allen, one of the co-founders of Microsoft was going to have his own telescope array paid for by him at SETI. SETI is the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence.

And then there's another man. And at the end of the movie, you might see when the flying saucer lands, this man comes out rubbing his beard with his pipe. In fact, one of the most well-respected UFO researchers of all time.

In fact, they made a series a couple of years ago on TV called Blue Book. Dr. J. Allen Hynek, he investigated UFOs for the US government for over 20 years. And he actually became frustrated with the government's attempts to explain everything naturalistically.

You've probably heard of the swamp gas theory, right? There is no such thing as swamp gas causing these lights. He invented it as a distraction, but he became uncomfortable with that start of his own organization.

And being interviewed in a magazine, he said this. And I wanna say, I have a lot of respect for Dr. Hynek. He's not a believer, Christian believer, but he was trying to find answers and he would go wherever the evidence led.

And you're gonna see he reached a spiritual or interdimensional conclusion like his contemporary Jacques Vallée and they became co-collaborators. They reported their findings to the United Nations and so on.

He said, certainly the phenomenon has psychic aspects. I don't talk about them very much because to a general audience, the word psychic and occult have bad overtones. They say, oh, it's all crazy. But the fact is there are psychic things.

UFOs seem to materialize and dematerialize. There's been a change of outlook, change of philosophy of person's lives. That's a change of their worldview. He says, now those are rather tricky things to talk about openly, but it's there.

Many people like Jacques Vallée and I feel to some extent, it might be a conditioning process. Bingo. I've discovered like everybody else, people are often changed by their experience. Remember I showed you those paintings a little moment ago.

Now he was talking about what he used the terms paranormal or paraphysical. Now as Christians, what terms might we use to describe the same phenomena? Yes, spiritual or supernatural. So the Bible actually records, doesn't it?

Visitors from a supernatural realm to our own angels. But one very important visitor, if you like, from that other dimension was the Lord Jesus Christ whom the Bible says is the creator who became flesh.

Notice here in John 18, 36, standing before Pilate during his trial, he said, my kingdom is not of this world. My kingdom is from another place. And during, of course, the transfiguration event on the River Jordan, he said, or the disciples later off recounting it said, we did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

We were eyewitnesses of his majesty. They saw this heaven open up, if you like. What does the scripture say? A voice came down and said, this is my son whom I love with whom I am well pleased. And Jesus did perform miracles.

He raised the dead. How could he do that? Well, if he's the creator, if he created the universe, that's not very hard for him, is it? How could he turn water into wine, calm the seas and the storms again?

Because he has control over the universe and the matter that he created. In fact, if you're a non-believer listening tonight, perhaps you're on Facebook and you think that miracles are a violation of natural law, I'd like you to think about it differently.

Because when you can actually use operational science, if you like, to show when a miracle has taken place, and what this is, is God, who is outside the physical universe that he made, is enacting his will upon matter.

That's how Jesus could turn water into wine. Not hard when you've created the universe. And the same creator, the Lord Jesus warns us in Matthew 24.

Look at this.

False Christs and false prophets will appear, perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect if that was possible. Who's the elect he's talking about? Well, of course, that is the church. So there's a bit of a heads up to be careful about even signs and wonders.

How will people interpret? Is the modern UFO phenomenon where we see these physics-defying craft flying at over 7 ,000 miles an hour, doing U-turns, not slowing down, becoming one object, acting in a paranormal or para-physical manner.

What will people interpret that as? Perhaps as advanced aliens. So the nature of UFOs specifically, these are unidentified flying objects. They've been seen throughout history. They're not new. The ancient Romans and Greeks have stories of flying shields.

In fact, if you went to see the movie, you remember we reported on Alexander the Great saying that flying shields attacked his army. They've been seen on radar by multiple credible witnesses. Again, in the movie, we reported on the Washington UFO press conference held at the Washington Press Club where 80 Air Force officers got up and gave testimony of seeing these things on radar.

And listen to this.