F4F | Debunking Jon Truth's LIES about the Trinity

The Theological Wild West of Social Media and John Truth’s Conspiracy Mindset

Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Rosebro. I am your servant in Jesus Christ. This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God.

So you'll note that social media is theologically the Wild West. It's the best way I can put it. It's completely just lawless out there. And as a result of it, many of you come in contact with stuff you wouldn't normally come in contact if it weren't for social media.

That being the case, I recently was requested, somebody requested, that I take a look at the the social media content of a fellow who goes by the name of John Truth. And all I can say is is that John Truth doesn't traffic in truth.

John Truth is deceived. Like, legitimately, horrifically deceived. And he thinks he's doing a good work by saving the world from error, but is ironically spreading error. And most notably, you know, that John Truth has gotten a lot of social media attention because of his recent attacks and allegations against the doctrine of the Trinity.

And so we're gonna take a look at that and we're going to, once again, explain where does Christianity come up with the doctrine of the Trinity? Answer, Scripture. Not philosophy, not pagan religions.

We're gonna pull out, we're gonna pull apart one of John Truth's videos and kind of show you how this all works. Anyway, let's do this. Let's whirl up the desktop and yeah, that's a photograph I took with my iPhone at the Los Angeles International Airport not that long ago, but that's a whole other story.

Let me pull up my web browser and here is John Truth. And he's got a video titled Exposing the False Pagan Trinity Deception. And somebody sits there and goes, what? The doctrine of the Trinity is pagan?

No, it's not. And unfortunately, this guy kind of falls into the same category as conspiracy theorists. Well, which conspiracy theorists? Well, I would note there's a conspiracy mindset that basically makes it impossible for people to be reached with the truth because it's not about evidence.

It's about the conspiracy. So, for instance, flat earthers. Okay, why are people flat earthers? Answer, well, because they bought into a conspiracy theory. And it's not the science that proves that the earth is flat because it doesn't.

The science shows that the earth is a globe. But the flat earthers will say, well, NASA is evil and bad and they're the ones conspiring with the world governments to keep the truth of the flat earth from getting to you.

Oh, okay. How come you can't explain that the science doesn't work to help you with this flat earth thing? It contradicts you. Answer, the problem with flat earthers is the conspiracy mindset. King James only people, you know, the people who are only into the King James.

Well, there was an evil conspiracy by the Roman Catholic Church and things like this in order to foist upon you these alternative texts and long-lived Texas Receptus and down with the evil Roman Catholic system designed by the Jesuits to bring down the truth of the Bible.

Yeah.

Can't reason with those people either because they they believe that the King James Bible is the only inspired English translation out there and everything else is under the influence of a conspiracy.

Okay, you get the idea. Same thing with John Truth. I had to put that in scare quotes. This guy is a conspiracy theorist and he's not capable of reasoning with actual evidence and nor does he know his Bible like at all and we'll kind of explain that along the way.

So let's let's sample this video, shall we? Exposing the false pagan Trinity deception. The Trinity isn't pagan. I'll explain why here in a minute, but let's listen to John Truth's argument.

The Trinity is a false doctrine. This doctrine entails that God is three separate co-equal divine persons. I'm gonna not only show you the origin.

That's not a correct definition of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity teaches there is one God, three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who make up the one God and they are all co-equal, co-eternal, you know, with each other.

You know, and so, you know, he's saying there, well, how does that work? I don't know. It's what the scripture reveals, but he claims that, you know, that the Trinity is this false pagan heresy, he claims.

Well, what's your evidence for that, sir?

...of where this doctrine came from, but I'm gonna show you the truth in scripture about who God is and who his Son is. Now before you react out of the flesh and you call me a heretic in the...

Oh, I see. So I'm reacting out of the flesh by calling you a heretic. Wrong! God the Holy Spirit rebukes you for denying what the scripture says, sir. You are a heretic. You believe in a false God. You believe in one of the heresies of the ancient church.

I'll explain.

...comments. I want you to just watch this video with an open mind. False pagan religions all around the world have had trinities in them before the Messiah even...

Okay, this is, by the way, is not true. False pagan religions have trinities in them. No, false pagan religions are polytheistic, and if they focus on like three deities, they don't do that to the exclusion of the others.

Instead, they basically will key in on three that have something important. Let me give you an example, okay? So in Hinduism, here's the question you ask. How many deities are there in Hinduism? Hindu deities are the gods and goddesses in Hinduism.

Deities in Hinduism are as diverse as its traditions. A Hindu can choose to be polytheistic, pantheistic, monotheistic, monistic, even agnostic, atheistic, or humanistic. The terms in epithets for deities within the diverse traditions of Hinduism vary and include Deva, Devi, Ishvara, Ishvari, Bhagavan, and Bhagavata.

Okay, the deities of Hinduism have evolved from the Vedic era through the medieval first millennia, regionally with Nepal and Pakistan, India, and Southeast Asia across Hinduism's diverse traditions. And so you're going to know here, how many are there?

Well, the Hindu deity concept varies from a person, a personal god, as in yoga, school of Hindu philosophy, to 33 major deities in the Vedas. So if there are as many as 33 major deities in the Vedas, then it goes on to say two hundreds of deities mentioned in the Puranas of Hinduism, hundreds of deities.

When you see three of the 33 being kind of held out, that technically is not even close to the same thing as the Trinity. Okay, so for instance, in Hinduism there are three deities that oftentimes get mentioned together, and here's what it is.

It's called the Trimurti in Hinduism, triad of three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva. And the concept was well known by the time of Kadalasa's poem, I can't even pronounce this, The Birth of War, that the Trimurti collapses three gods into a single form with three faces.

Each god is in charge of one aspect of creation. With Brahma as creator, Vishnu as preserver, Shiva as destroyer, in combining the three deities in this way, however, the doctrine eludes the fact that Vishnu is not merely a preserver, and Shiva not merely a destroyer.

Moreover, while Vishnu and Shiva are widely worshipped in India, very few temples are dedicated to Brahma, who is expressly said to have lost his worshippers as a result of telling a lie, and is merely entrusted with the task of creation under the direction of one of the other two gods.

So you'll note that the Hindu Trimurti is not really technically even remotely close to the doctrine of the Trinity. I would note that the primary religions of the ancient world, this is going to include the Mediterranean as well as the Near East and the Far East, they weren't worshippers of one god, three persons, they were polytheistic, and when there are triads of deities being worshipped or focused on, it is not to the exclusion of the others, the other hundreds of deities that may exist.

So to somehow invoke, as he has said, well take a look, there's trinities in the pagan world. No, actually there are not. There are triads, but those triads are not one god, three persons, not at all.

These triads are three different separate deities who are focused on because of their importance or certain things that they did, like the Hindu Trimurti, the triad focusing on creation, preservation, and destruction.

You know, kind of three things that run together, but there are hundreds of deities in Hinduism, hundreds. So invoking pagan religions and saying, oh pagan religions had trinities, this was a common feature of the ancient world, baloney.

It shows you don't understand how the polytheistic religions of the ancient world work, like not even close. And I would note the pantheon, that's what it's called, the pantheon of deities of the Greco-Roman world, they didn't have a trinity.

They may have had, there may have been worshipers who focused on a triad of three of the deities within the pantheon, but they didn't have a trinity. So this claim that somehow Christianity was influenced by pagan religions that had trinities, no, they had triads and were polytheistic and there were multiple gods beyond the three being focused on for whatever their focus was in the religion.

So already we got a problem here, John Truth, you don't know your ancient polytheism or even your modern polytheism. The claim here that Christianity borrowed this from pagan religions is patently false.

And that being the case, I'm going to point something else out. Even if you could find a legitimate pagan old school religion that worshiped one god, three persons, they weren't polytheists, they were monotheistic and had one god, three persons.

And if you could prove that it predated Christianity, it doesn't prove that Christianity got the idea from them. This is known, by the way, as the fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc. This is a Latin that means after this, therefore because of this.

This is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone assumes that one event caused another simply because the first event came before the second. So even if you could prove that the ancient pagan worlds, you know, it was common for them to worship a trinity, not a triad, a trinity, you could not prove the connection to Christianity without actual evidence because you're just assuming because the one came first, therefore the second one came as a result of the first.

Again, that's the logical fallacy known as post hoc ergo propter hoc, or as my wife likes to call it, post hoc ergo poppycock is the right way of looking at it. So already John Truth is, I'm 30 seconds in, and he's already not trafficking in truth,.

He's trafficking in complete misinformation. And walked the earth. Rama, Vishnu, and Mahisha.

Yeah, the Trimurti, right? Okay, how many gods are there in Hinduism? We just looked that up, hundreds,.

Hundreds. Baal, queen of heaven, and Leviathan.

Do you think Baal worshippers only, you know, that Baal and the queen of heaven and Leviathan were one god, three persons? No, they are a, note, even their graphic says trio, it doesn't say.

Trinity. They are a triad, but not a trinity. Holy trio, Tammuz, Nimrod, and Samarius. When you compare these pictures with these, they are shockingly similar.

Oh, there we go. Post hoc ergo poppycock. Okay, you have to prove the actual connection. You can't just artistically say, well, they're similar, therefore they're the same. That's not how it works. When Constantine was trying to Christianize...

There it is. There it is. Okay, there is the conspiracy narrative. Constantine. Okay, by the way, if you know your ancient Gnosticism, and it's modern in, you know, it's modern in iterations in Freemasonry, as, you know, so, which branches of Freemasonry?

I would say the Scottish Rite, as well as the Templars. Yeah, the Templars are there in Freemasonry. And by the way, I know exactly what the Templars believe because all their documents were revealed and published on the internet.

The Templars believe that they found the body of Christ. They have the bones of Christ. The Jolly Roger, that has the skull and crossbones, that was originally flown by Templar ships after they had arrested their Grand Master in France, right?

And that was their way of saying, we have the bones of Christ. That's what the original meaning of the Jolly Roger is. It's a Templar symbol, and Templars were Gnostics. Okay, what's the Templar narrative?

Okay, the Templars, again, are a form of Gnosticism. Oh, it's that Constantine is the one who created Christian Orthodoxy and forced it down everyone's throat, and he basically said, this branch of Christianity is true, and he destroyed all the rest and drove them underground.

Constantine's the evil bad guy. Well, John Truth is buying into the same kind of conspiracy narrative, and I'm going to back this up just a little bit so that you can hear his claim regarding.

Constantine. Listen again. With these, they're shockingly similar. When Constantine was trying to Christianize his empire, he added the doctrine of the Trinity into Christianity.

No, he didn't. Have you read any of the proceedings from the Council of Nicaea? Do you even know what the Council of Nicaea was about? Council of Nicaea was put together, it was a Christian church council, to put down the heresy of Arius, the Arian heresy that denied the deity of Christ.

Yes, Constantine was there, but he did not say, hey, I have an idea, let's replace Arius' heresy with this. We need to make Christianity more appealing to all these pagans, and so I would like to, I make a motion that we adopt the doctrine of the Trinity so that we have a Trinity like other pagan religions.

You're not going to find that connection because no such thing happened. Constantine didn't do that. The doctrine of the Trinity was arrived at and legitimately defended at the Council of Nicaea based solely on the Word of God, and for this guy to sit there and say Constantine did this, oh good grief, you legitimately have no idea what you're talking about.

Show me the document. Show me the document where it says, and Constantine said, I would like to, let's add a Trinity to Christianity to make it more appealing to pagans. Which document of antiquity says that?

There is no document of antiquity that says it, so let me back this up because this is all just conspiracy nonsense. It shows you, you gotta avoid all of these conspiracy theories. They will cook your brain and make you incapable.

Of sound reasoning. Constantine was trying to Christianize his empire. He added the doctrine of the Trinity into Christianity so that more pagans would convert to Christianity.

You said that without any evidence, sir. Where's your documentation? Where are all the documents that prove this? I mean, surely there are documents that do, or are you just speculating? You see, that's how conspiracy theorists work.

So no, Constantine did not do this. Constantine wouldn't have had the power to do that anyway. And no, the doctrine of the Trinity at the Council of Nicaea was defended.

Solely based on scripture. The Most High is not three separate persons. He is one personal being.

With three distinct parts. That's modalism, Patrick. Let's take a look now. Now, if you would like to know, how do we know the source of the doctrine of the Trinity? It's really simple, okay? This document, I'm going to put a link to it down below.

You can find this at blueletterbible .org. And if you were to just do a Google search for Robert Bowman, the biblical basis of the doctrine of the Trinity, the Trinity itself is taught in scripture very clearly.

Isaiah’s Exclusive Monotheism and the One God of Scripture

John Truth is teaching a form of modalism. In fact, I want you to hear what he says.

Why we have a body, a soul, and a spirit, and he made us in his image and his likeness. The Father alone is our Savior. And I'm going to explain it to you in depth. Isaiah 43 and verse 11 tells us, I, even I, I am Yahuwah, and besides me, there is no Savior.

Now watch what he says about this passage. The Father is declaring here that besides him, there is no Savior. The.

Father is not mentioned there. Yahweh is mentioned there. It's not Yahuwah. What deity is that? Yahuwah! Okay, it's the Yahuwah deity. Okay, whatever. No, it's Yahweh. That's the divine name there with the Tetragrammaton.

And I would note it doesn't say anything about the Father there in Isaiah 43, 11. In fact, this is going to be our starting point. When you work through the biblical basis of the doctrine of the Trinity, the biblical basis of the doctrine of the Trinity begins with this very simple fact, there is only one God.

Okay, so you begin there. And Isaiah 43, 10 and 11 will be where we go. Okay, you are my witnesses. So Isaiah 43, 10, you are my witnesses, declares Yahweh, and my servant whom I have chosen so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he.

Before me, no God was formed, nor shall there be any after me. I, I am Yahweh, and beside me there is no Savior. So note here, Isaiah 43, 10 and 11, make it clear there's only one God. Okay, there are other passages that make this clear as well.

I think this is just the clearest and sufficient in and of itself. And then verse 11, I, I am Yahweh, and besides me there is no Savior. Note here, Yahweh is being invoked here. It doesn't say the Father.

It says Yahweh, which then begs the question, who is Yahweh? Well, Yahweh is the God of the Old Testament. But here's where it gets interesting. Okay, and you're going to note that nobody denies the deity of the Father.

So I would note that this document does a really good job of pointing out the fact that there are scriptures that clearly say that the Father is God. But there is more to it than that. The scriptures also teach that Jesus is God and that the Holy Spirit is God.

The Baptism of Jesus and the Distinct Persons of the Trinity

And here's the interesting thing. They talk to each other. They interact with each other. And so modalism is false on many, many fronts. Most notably, it would have to be a deception. Because, so for instance, there's Jesus being baptized in the Jordan River.

Let's take a look at it, in fact. If I were to go to Matthew chapter 3, right? And in Matthew chapter 3, Jesus is baptized. Here's what it says. Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John to be baptized by him.

John would have prevented him saying, I need to be baptized by you and do you come to me? But Jesus answered him, let it be so now for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he consented.

And when Jesus was baptized, immediately went up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened to him. And he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him. And behold, a voice from heaven said, this is my beloved son with whom I am well pleased.

That would be the voice of the Father. So here we've got the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit all showing up in the same place. If modalism is true, then Jesus had to throw his voice. So Jesus did some ventriloquism.

While Jesus is coming up on the water, he's holding his teeth like this and says, this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased, right? Trying not to let on that he's engaging in ventriloquism. And about the Holy Spirit descending?

Well, that was some kind of CGI. Maybe some kind of weird phantasm or something like that. It wasn't really the Holy Spirit. It was just something that looked like the Holy Spirit because Jesus is engaging in deception, right?

And you'll note then if modalism is true, who died on the cross for you? The Father, right? And that's the heresy known as patrapassionism. God the Father was not on the cross. Jesus the Son was. Now let's talk a little bit more about this, okay?

Because of the distinctions here. So if I were to just look for the word cup, and I'm going to look specifically in the New Testament, we get to Jesus's prayer in Matthew 26. Going a little farther, Jesus fell on his face and he prayed saying, my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.

Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will. So Jesus has a will. The Father has a will. How many gods are there? Well, Isaiah 43 .10 says there's only one God. So note Jesus has a will, and it's different than the Father's.

If he is the same as the Father, and same as the Holy Spirit, then Jesus saying, nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will, makes no sense at all. That's all deception on the part of Jesus, because God would only have one will.

But Jesus has a will. That means Jesus is a person. That's the point here. And if Jesus is the same as the Father, who's he praying to there in the Garden of Gethsemane? Himself? Right. You're starting to see the problem here.

This whole thing breaks down. But here's then how the doctrine of the Trinity works. There's one God. The Father is clearly called God. Yep, that's exactly what happens. But the Son is also called God.

I'm going to start with the less clear passages and work my way up to the clear. And I'm going to start with the ones related to Jesus being Yahweh. So if I were to go to Romans chapter 10, Romans chapter 10, and if I just back up a little bit in the context here from the passage I want to go to.

So here's what Paul writes in Romans 10 8. But what does it say? The word is near you. It's in your mouth and in your heart. That is the word of faith that we proclaim. Because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Now the question then is, what does it mean to confess that Jesus is Lord? That's the question. Well, Paul isn't done talking about this. And note, this is a less clear passage. So if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

For with the heart one believes and is justified. And with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the scripture says, everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame. What's Paul quoting from here?

All right. So, for there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. For the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. And then he quotes a passage from the Old Testament. For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

And he's quoting the prophet Joel, chapter two, verse 32, if I'm not mistaken. Joel chapter two, verse 32. So let's take a look at that passage. Okay. If I go to a Greek text here, a Hebrew text, and I were to go to Joel chapter two, hang on a second here, I got to spell it right.

Joel, now I have an extra character. I hate when I do stuff like that. Hang on a second here. Joel chapter two. All right. We're going to scroll on down. Okay. Here's what it says. We're going to read this whole section, starting in verse 30.

And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the great and awesome day of Yahweh comes.

Okay. There's the divine name again. And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of Yahweh shall be saved. For in Mount Zion, in Jerusalem, there shall be those who escape as Yahweh has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom Yahweh calls.

So note the section of Joel, chapter two, verse 32, that Paul quotes in Romans chapter 10. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. But the Hebrew word is Yahweh. Everyone who calls on the name of Yahweh shall be saved.

Well, the passage in question in Romans 10 says, you know, everyone who says that, you know, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and then goes on to say, for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, referring to Jesus.

But the thing is, he's quoting Joel 2 .32, Lord there in the Hebrew is Yahweh. That means that Jesus is Yahweh. That means Jesus is God. And that's exactly correct. That's the less clear passage, by the way.

Jesus as Yahweh in Romans 10 and Philippians 2

Okay. Let me give you another one. One that you're all familiar with. Philippians chapter 2. This is still not as clear as it's going to get. This is still vague in comparison to where I'm going. We're starting with the unclearest passages and working our way up to the clearest.

So, having this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who though he was in Morphe, in the same nature of God, he did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped. He emptied himself by taking on the form of a servant, and being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on the cross.

Therefore, God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus, every knee should bow in heaven on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

Now, what's Paul saying here? Well, I would note, therefore, God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus, every knee should bow in heaven on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

Paul here is quoting from the prophet Isaiah, chapter 45, verse 23. Let's take a look at that, shall we? Isaiah 45. We'll scroll down to verse 23. Here's what it says. By myself I have sworn. Who's talking, by the way?

Who's talking here? Well, go back up to verse 21. Declare and present your case. Let them take counsel together. Who told this long ago? Who declare it of old? Was it not I, Yahweh, and there is no other God besides me?

Here's another one of those texts that says there's only one God. A righteous God and a Savior, and there is none besides me. Well, we already know from Romans chapter 10 that Jesus is Yahweh, right? Well, let's keep going with this Philippians text, because verse 23 of Isaiah is being quoted by the Apostle Paul in Philippians 2.

So God says, turn to me and be saved all the ends of the earth, for I am God and there is no other. By myself I have sworn, from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return. To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.

Who's talking again here? Yahweh. So Paul is quoting Isaiah 45 23 in Philippians 2, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven on earth and under the earth and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

Isaiah, God says that to me every knee shall bow in allegiance. That means Jesus is Yahweh again, okay? Isaiah 45 23 and it being quoted in Philippians chapter 2 shows that Jesus is Yahweh, okay? There's just no way around it, but there's more.

Just wait, there's just a little bit more, okay? Let me come back here to this thing, okay? So if we were to click on this section, section four of the wonderful document put together by Dr. Robert Bowman, okay, talking about Jesus being God, there are clear passages that say that Jesus is God.

How many gods are there? There's one. The Father is called God. Jesus is called God. And watch these texts. So if I were to go to John chapter, hang on a sec, I got to spell it correctly, John chapter one, okay?

We'll note what it says here. In the beginning was the Word and the Word we will hear became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus is the Word. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, pros ton theon, face-to-face with God, was toward God, and God was the Word, okay?

That's how the Greek words, en arche en halagas, kai halagas en pros ton theon, kai theos en halagas, and God was the Word. How many gods is that? If the Word was with God and the Word was God, how many deities is that?

There's only one, right? So the idea then is that Jesus, who has his own will that's different than the will of the Father, which means he's a person, okay? He was with God and he is God. That means there's one God and here we have at least two persons.

Let me show you more about the deity of Christ, okay? So he was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him. Jesus created everything and without him was not anything made that was made.

In him was life and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, the darkness is not overcome. And then it goes on to say that the Word, verse 14, the halagas became flesh and dwelt among us.

We have seen his glory, the glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. Then there's Hebrews chapter one. Check this one out, okay? Listen to how the inspired divine author of Hebrews writes, long ago at many times and in many ways God spoke to our fathers by the prophets.

But in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed as heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature.

This is talking about Christ. He's the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint, charakter there in the Greek is our word. Charakter points to the fact that Jesus is like the signet ring. You smush a signet ring into a wax and it leaves the imprint.

That's what a charakter. Jesus is the signet ring imprint of God's nature and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the majesty on high, having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.

Watch what it then says. For to which of the angels did God ever say, you are my son, today I have begotten you? Or again, I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son. And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, let all God's angels worship him.

But scripture says you shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve. Yet God the father commands all the angels to worship Jesus. Of his angels he says he makes his angels winds and his ministers a flame of fire.

But of the son he says your throne, oh God, is forever and ever. The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. God the father says of the son, your throne, oh God, is forever. How many deities is that?

Isaiah 43 10 says there is only one God. Before me no God was formed nor will there be any after me. I even I am Yahweh, apart from me there is no savior. So there's only one God, but here we have the father being called God, we have the son being called God and demanded to be worshiped as God by God the father.

By the way, those are still not the clearest texts. They get clearer. Let me explain. Let me give you another one. In John chapter 20, I have to spell it right again, John chapter 20, we have the account of Jesus appearing in the upper room on the day of his resurrection and who missed the meeting?

Thomas missed the meeting, right? Thomas missed the meeting and so as a result of it the other disciples said we've seen Jesus and Thomas says I'm not going to believe. Watch what it says in John 20. Now Thomas, one of the twelve called the twin, was not with them when Jesus came.