Right Thinking - Equality Act and More

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Well, welcome to another edition of The Wrap Report. I'm your host, Andrew Rapoport. I'm joined by Bud. Bud, how's sunny Florida today?

You know, Andrew, greetings, first of all. Not sunny today, man. It's like 59 degrees. It's raining. It's almost like you're here.

Well, it is sunny outside here. I just don't know the temperature because it's, well, probably too cold to walk outside yet.

Well, you're all cozy indoors, so, yeah.

Yeah, well, still got the fireplace going indoors, so I'm waiting to do a fire outside, you know.

Well, every now and then, I buy one of those logs, you know, and put it in our fireplace, which I don't even know why we really have them in Florida, but it was fun ambiance, you know.

You could just get one of those electric ones that they even give off the electric heat and it looks like it's a log on fire.

Yeah, well, I've gotten some of those orange strips of paper and just put it on a fan and laid the fan on its back so it blows up and it looks like those displays in some of the stores, you see. Well, you can't go to stores anymore, so you remember when.

That was B .C.

Yeah, before COVID. Yeah, people are now going to identify everything as B .C. and A .C., right, before COVID lockdowns and after. I mean, hey, look, 15 to slow the spread has turned into a full year.

Oh, yeah, it's going to turn into four years, probably.

Four years, what would that be tied to? Four years. Just coincidental. Yeah. The way things happen. You know, I will say before we get started, you know, this year, something didn't happen, bud. There was no reason rally.

Oh. And for folks that don't know, for the past couple of years, every four years, the atheists would get together. I mean, they're not really atheists, but they didn't. They're suppressors of God, but that's what we should call them.

We shouldn't call them atheists. Just call them suppressors of God.

Suppressing the truth. Yeah, true suppressors.

Yeah. So the suppressors of the truth, a .k .a. atheists, would have this big rally and they wanted to do it to show the politicians, because they do this in D .C., the clout of atheists. The first year they did it, they didn't have that many people show up and they said it was because it rained.

Though we still, the Christians, I striving fraternity, organized an outreach to the reason rally and we set up open air preachers at every corner around the National Mall so that there was no way for any of them to get into the rally without passing us and getting tracks.

So we covered every corner. I forget how many different, like 16 or 24 different teams that we set up. So we had a couple hundred people there and they had a couple thousand people. And the four years later, they were going to show that they were a force to be reckoned with.

They were predicting 30 ,000 people. And so I reached out to Ray Comfort and asked whether he'd come out for it and help us out. And so the most conservative numbers that we heard, and that was a beautiful day, by the way, but the most conservative numbers that we heard was that there were 5 ,000 people there, of which the Christians were over 1 ,000.

We made up 20 of the reason rally were the Christians.

I mean, fundamentally, that's the way it should be. If you've rejected God, you've rejected reason. Yeah.

Does it have truth? So after that rally, the reason they said they didn't have the 30 ,000 is because everyone was afraid of those Christians that were going to show up. Now, I will admit, they came out and the president of the American Atheists, David Silverstein, he's a Jewish guy.

But anyway, he called the police and restricted us. We had to be, basically, we were only allowed to be in an area where there were no people. The irony was that we ended up doing, Ray and his team did some open air.

And the irony was is that they moved us to do the open air where we were away from people, but they put us up on this hill. Because we had so many people, all the atheists came over to see what was going on.

So it actually worked out better when they moved us. It just didn't work the way they wanted. So they said, I guess they didn't organize it this year. I guess the Christians were a stronger force in proclaiming truth than they were in suppressing it.

Well, yeah, true. Well, they were following the science. That's right. Yeah, that's what it was. Because science says nothing. Scientists are the ones that speak. So, you know, Bud, before we get started, I do have to give you an announcement and let you know something.

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It's been an early morning, but pretty well.

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I really like it. You sent me a Oh, yeah. Congratulations. I'm a doctor of beauty now. Yes, sir. Congratulations. For folks who listened to the episode we did last on Robbie Zacharias, and we talked about how easy it is to make your own

Patreons will see this, and they can see it, or you'd have to go watch the Apologetics Live, but it's basically you downloaded a picture of a diploma from Universal Life Church Seminary, and it says your name here, and so you wrote in permanent marker my name where it says your name here.

Yeah, of course. I appreciate that. Now I, like Robbie Zacharias, could say I'm a doctor. I don't know if that's a good thing. But I like what Apologetics Live with our friend Justin Pierce said. He said that the I mean, because this is a solid frame you got here, and my wife said it probably costs you more to ship than the frame, and then I said, yeah, but

Justin said, yeah, but the frame costs more than the degree. Oh, wow. Because I paid nothing for the degree.

I hate to You know, congratulations on the doctorate. That's an achievement that will last in your memory for well, until you probably move and take it off the wall and whatever. I wasn't But I was going to tell you, I apologize.

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Oh, that's great. Well, we had a little bit of a different show for you folks today. This is going to be well, it's kind of a potpourri. We have a bunch of articles that have been just stacking up that we've been wanting to get to for, well, some time.

And they're ones where, well, they could probably take a whole show, to be honest, but we're not going to do a whole show on any of them. We're going to try to just tackle as many as we can. And Bud is going to let us know what we're going to start with.

We have I don't know. It looks like a dozen, dozen and a half articles we have.

Oh, wow. Yeah, let me see. I've printed them out. Of course, you printed them. The videos can see it.

So I'm going to let you pick whichever ones you want to start with. And we're just going to see how many we get through. We may have to do this as a two-parter and do one this week and one next week to finish up because there's just a lot of things in the news that we want to give some a Christian perspective on.

Well, you know, I think the biggest one that there's just so much. But the Equality Act, particularly now, you're no longer I think this guy Nadler, Jerry Nadler, he's New York. But you're familiar with him because you live up there where

Well, I used to live in New Jersey.

Yeah. But, you know, I left the communist state of New Jersey and came to a state where I'm allowed to carry guns, and I'm not beat up as much when I don't wear masks and things like that. So you want to start with his?

Well, yeah, let's look at his.

The Equality Act and the Christian View of Government

Representative Jerry Nadler defends the Equality Act and says actually, I want to read the whole quote. This was pretty interesting. After hearing a representative speaking against the Equality Act, a guy, Stubey, Representative Stubey, I think, from Florida.

Nadler what's his name? That's your state. That's my state. I don't know. But this guy, Jerry Nadler, expressed his dissatisfaction. He said, Mr. Stubey, if I'm pronouncing that right, what any religious tradition describes as God's will is no concern of this Congress.

I think that sums up the next four years.

Well, the reality is that there's several things we can look at with that. We're going to have to get into the Equality Act, but my first thought of this claim itself, that God's will has nothing to do with what Congress is doing, shows that he doesn't understand God.

He is in government. He's in the place of government that he's in because God allows it. It is God who sets up governments. It's God who uses governments. You know, many Christians, Bud, think that Biden getting in office was somehow against God's will.

Like we needed Trump. That was God's will. The reality is God uses nations even to teach his own people. People forget this. Read the book of Jeremiah, and you'll see that Jeremiah prophesied that God would use a wicked.

It was a wicked nation, pagan nation of Babylon, and that they were going to come in and be God's instrument of justice, God's instrument of judgment on the nation of Israel, God's chosen people. God was going to bring this pagan, wicked nation in to bring Israel, his chosen people, into captivity to curb them and cure them of idolatry.

And that's exactly what happened. And then when those 70 years were done, God judged Babylon. So God uses nations for his own purposes. He sets up rulers. They're in that place because they're there to serve God's purpose.

So that is God's will. So when he says, well, you know, this is not, you know, anything to do with God's will. Well, this is what scripture says. Reading from Romans 13. Every person is to be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God.

Wait, say that part again. No. For there is no authority. No authority includes, I could be mistaken, but no authority includes Mr. Nadler. It includes the United States Congress. So every person is to be subject, including Mr. Nadler.

Every person is to be subject to the governing authorities for there is no authority except from God and those which exist to establish are established by God. Therefore, anyone who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God.

And they who have oppressed will receive condemnation upon themselves. So this is Romans 13, 1 and 2. It makes it crystal clear that every governing authority does so by God's will. And they're established by God's will.

And you obey them or resist them in either opposition to or submission to God's will. So I'm sorry, Mr. Nadler, but Congress is there to do God's bidding. Sometimes God's bidding, as we would see in Romans 1, is to bring judgment on a wicked, sinful nation.

And Mr. Nadler, that's what you're part of. He's actually part of God's judgment because this nation has rejected God and his will. And they're in oppression to the ordinance of God. And we have Jerry Nadler as the judgment of God.

And he's a judgment upon himself as well.

Very true. And just speaking to that point, it always, I don't want to say amused me, but it always concerned me that evangelicals, which evangelicals have now become really a political lobby. Yeah, it's really identified as a political lobby and certainly not a gospel steward, given the antics that are going on in the visible church.

But when the evangelical pack or lobby would get a conservative of any flavor on the ballot elected, it's God's man for the hour. But when it turned south, it's no longer God's man for the hour. No, this man right now in the White House fits the same criteria.

He's God's man for the hour. And it is just as you've indicated, because God establishes all authority. It is not accidental. So the point is, is we can amply see judgment.

Yeah. And I think for too many Christians, they don't want to think about judgment. They want a comfortable Christianity.

Yeah. Well, they think that way, I believe, because they don't have an apprehension, first of all, of sovereignty. They profess it, but they don't really think it through to understand the implications of God's sovereignty over all things.

You just read it. His authority or all authorities are established by him. He is sovereign over all of that. So they fail to apprehend that. And certainly in a spiritual, faithful sense, they fail to apprehend holiness.

So where do you want to go next? Well, let's talk about the Equality Act a little bit. And there were a number of really helpful articles that I found. I know there are a lot more, but Heritage Foundation has some that are kind of the practical implications from a political and social standpoint.

Josh Bice had a great article called The Equality Act and the Cost of Freedom. Gabe Hughes on his website, The Majesty's Men, had one titled The Equality Act Makes Everyone Potato Heads. But I found one, Ken Ham had written, Answers in Genesis, that the Equality Act is set to destroy religious freedom.

And I think that's the implication that we're most concerned with. We understand depravity in the culture and we expect to see where it is going. And what is driving the Equality Act culturally. But the implications for the church, I think, are critical for us to grasp.

And I don't know that there is a lot of outrage among Christians. I have talked to a few folks about it. Most of them aren't familiar with it. They're more familiar with the restrictions on, you know, H .R. 1, vote by mail, than they are the Equality Act, really.

And this actually, you mentioned something that I was going to hit on, because this is the thing that's kind of frustrating me. Is that everyone seems to be more focused on the political things going on than the religious.

The Equality Act is a direct attack on Christianity. That's the goal. It's going to be something that's going to be used to shut down every church and every ministry. You're going to have to have, you know, someone that is LGBT on every board and an equal number.

In California, this is already the case that even for nonprofits, even Christian charities are going to have to have a practicing homosexual on the board. At least one, unless they have, what is it, if they have six members, then they have to have two or three to be equal, to be fair.

And this is what we're seeing now. Now, the Equality Act itself is something that is, the argument is to make everything equal. I mean, it always sounds good, doesn't it? We're just making equality. It sounds like a good thing, but it's not equality.

It is an attempt to suppress Christian views. Now, you don't see this being used against Muslims who have a much stronger view against homosexuality. Christians, what we will do to someone that practices homosexuality is give them the gospel and try to get them to have truth and come to repentance.

Muslims will throw you off a building and kill you. Which one is more dangerous?

Why do you think that is? Do you think it's just a function of numbers and the sense that America in some way had come out of a Judeo-Christian ethic? And not to mention that it's primarily identified with white, cisgendered, self-proclaimed Christians?

Well, I believe what it is.

You think it's just the numbers? The number one factor I would say is probably because evil doesn't divide against evil. They're on the same side. When you understand Islam, they will work within the political means until they have a majority, and then they will silence those that they disagree with.

So there's an aspect where I think that their terrorism has worked, and the Marxists want to use the same kind of terrorism of fear. It's the fear of being canceled, losing your job, things like that, that is driving people now to say, well, we don't want to go against Muslims because we're afraid of them.

We don't want to go against the Marxists because we're afraid of them. So it's the same idea of terrorism. They're using the same playbook, I think. And so they know how the playbook works, and they want as many in their camp as they can.

But the goal will be silence the Christians, silence the Jewish people. Then when they go to silence the Muslims, the Muslims will rise up. And I've always said this. Atheism versus Islam, Islam wins because atheists have nothing to live for other than this life.

Muslims are looking at a, they have a wrong view of it, but they're looking at an eternal life. So they have something beyond this world to fight for. And so the atheists will give up. That's my thinking.

No, I think that's right. No, when it comes to the comment you made, though, H .R .1, H .R .1 is this bill about voting, where they want to nationalize the voting and basically make what we had in this past year's election nationwide for all elections.

Have the mail-in ballots that worked very well for Democrats to pull off a coup. It was not voter fraud, by the way. It was not, you know, election tampering. It was a coup. Let's call it what it was.

We need to stop giving in to the Marxist language and, you know, calling it Capitol riots. No, riots are where people were doing for seven months in the cities. That was riots, when they're burning things down.

In Capitol Hill now, we're hearing all the testimony. The FBI has announced they didn't find a single gun. That's not the case in BLM riots. There's footage of the police opening the doors and welcoming people in.

There's 36 officers that have been charged with assisting the protesters that day. This was a staged coup. It was staged to make it look like it was an insurrection. The reality is the real insurrection, a proper definition of an insurrection, is when you're trying to take over a country.

Well, what do we have for seven months? People marching the streets, burning the streets, saying, burn it down. We need to start over. We need to overturn this country. That's an insurrection. When they go into city streets and go into an area and they put up barriers and they say, we are a new country.

That's what they said with CHOP and CHAZ. That is an insurrection. And that was supported and funded by the very people that are trying to prosecute what happened on January 6th at the Capitol. And they go, well, but no one's ever broken into the Capitol.

Yes, they have, several times before. Within our generation, when Brett Kavanaugh, the hearings were going on, they didn't just break in. They went all the way into, they were standing there during the voting.

They were standing there during the hearings. They got all the way in and no one chased out the Senate. They didn't go, the Capitol police didn't just rush them off. In fact, now that we have the timeline, the police rushed them off on January 6th.

They rushed them out before many people were even in the Capitol. Almost as if they knew that they were supposed to be there. Could that be the reason the police opened the doors and welcomed them in?

Because the protesters weren't actually going in at first until they were welcomed in. And then it was like, oh, yeah, look, they're all over the place. There was less than 100 people out of 300 ,000.

That's not the same numbers that we see when we look at BLM and we see that there was thousands of people and thousands of people rioting. Yeah, true.

But there is a difference between those two things. Really? There is the driving agenda of the culture at the moment and a large degree of driving agenda in the visible church. The issue of melanin and the oppression.

So that validates one and certainly is not applicable in the other.

Well, the thing is, is that that's not actually true. Because there's actually more white people that are marching in Black Lives Matter protests than blacks now. Interesting. Black Lives Matter, the organization, had to take down their goals.

Why? Because many African-Americans saw that the goals of Black Lives Matter are for the destruction of the black family, of the very things that they know the black communities need. Strong family and education.

And their goals were to destroy the patriarchal family, to support single mothers, not to get a job or take care of their kids. No, support single mothers that they can go out and protest. It was everything against what they need.

And many blacks started to realize that it was many blacks who pulled away. And now you got whites that are going, we got to still march.

Well, I understand. What you're saying is absolutely true. It is factual. Nevertheless, the power of optics, that's in play.

No, it is the power of gaslighting. What is gaslighting? Gaslighting, we used to, back when Bill Clinton was president, you may have heard the term tell a lie long enough and people will believe it's true.

That is what he did. He kept saying the same things over and over that what he was doing was just in private. And he would, you know, when he was having an affair, things like this and, you know, giving away government secrets to the Chinese.

These were not supposed to be big deals. And he told a lie over and over saying this was just, this is just personal relationships. You know, working with the Chinese and giving them satellite technology they didn't have.

But the reality is gaslighting is from a movie where basically what happened was his husband wanted to drive his wife nuts. So what he was doing was they would have, back when they had a gaslight for lights, he would turn the lights down and tell her that they're bright and turn it up and say that they were dim.

And he would keep doing this until she started to question her own sense of reality. She started to wonder, she couldn't tell now because he kept telling her it was bright when she didn't think it was bright or wasn't bright when it wasn't.

He drove her nuts to where she couldn't trust her own version of reality. That is what gaslighting is. And that's what we have, Bud. What we have is a bunch of people who are trying to, in the media, who are trying to convince all of us that wearing a mask will protect you from a virus that is, that you're using a mask that's not designed for viruses.

It even says it on the packaging. This does not protect against viruses. But everyone thinks, well, I got to wear this. There are certain masks that would be more beneficial, but those masks are supposed to, are supposedly not to be used.

So following the science, like when we look at the testing of a virus and we test it and we spend so many cycles that we no longer get valid tests. So everyone's positive when they really aren't. Things like this.

So, you know, now all of a sudden, Biden's president, we changed the testing cycle. So now we're getting more accurate readings. And what's happening? The virus is coming down. The number of cases worldwide.

Yeah. CDC is now using the proper number of cycles to spin for the spinning of the test. Yet many people knew that that was a problem before, complained about it, but were shut up. So the reality is, is it's you tell the lie long enough and people will believe it.

And that's that's really what we have going on. It's got it's the power of gaslighting. And you see the gaslighting in big tech, in the suppression of anything that goes against their narrative. Right.

They're sitting and saying, oh, you say that there's election fraud? No, that's that's conspiracy theory. We got to we got to, you know, remove that comment. But then when they want to and they're actually trying to do this, there's a Republican who is seated in the House of Representatives, won by 22 votes, and the Democrats are still trying to call for an audit to unseat a sitting House of Representatives member with a Democrat.

After the fact. But at the same time, saying to the Supreme Court, arguing that to throw out the cases because Biden's already sitting in office. And so there's no need to go through this. And do an audit everywhere.

When we already saw in Michigan's already accepted that Trump won Michigan, there's now going to be an audit in Arizona. We'll see what happens there. Pennsylvania. Well, that one, they went against the law.

That one should have been heard. So there's three of the states. You know, the reason they don't want these cases heard is because they're trying to unseat a Republican with a Democrat, but they don't want to unseat Biden with Trump, which is what should end up happening if we were to do the audit.

So so that the Equality Act is something Christians, we're going to have to be watching. We'll probably end up having to do an entire show just on the ramifications of the Equality Act. And but there's when we talk about the Equality Act, there is a problem with some of the Christians and their view of the Equality Act.

This is why I think we'll end up having to do a whole show, because there unfortunately are Christians who are trying to support. The Equality Act and argue that this is something that that Christians should get behind when the Equality Act is going to be something that will will be used to shut down any church that does not support and promote homosexuality.

Executive Orders, Immigration, and the Politics of Gaslighting

Yeah, the whole agenda of the LGBT movement and and people need to understand that technically what this does, and this is what just the irony is thick. But the the Equality Act essentially is just adding a couple of phrases to the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

They're adding in sexual orientation as a protected class and gender identity as a protected class. The thing that strikes me, and I'm certainly not intelligent enough to explain this, but what are we doing?

We're making objective concrete law using language and words that will enshrine subjectivism as a legally protected ideology, which itself uses, especially now in the postmodern times, it also uses language in words, but in a non-concrete and very fluid fashion.

So we're making a concrete law. We're using what the words mean to protect a group that has no concept of a concrete definition of words. It just struck me as ironic that we're going to do something objectively to legalize subjectivism, contrary to certainly science and contrary to reason.

But the implications for Christianity are dire with this. Do you think it's going to pass? Do you think we're going to see this?

Unfortunately, yeah. Unless the Senate was to require a 60 vote, it's going to be just like the stimulus bill that's going to go down party line and Harris will be making the difference and she'll do the tie-breaking vote.

So unfortunately, what they're trying to do is to enforce their way of thinking, their agenda on all of us. And what the Equality Act is going to do is going to legalize and enforce gaslighting. It's going to take a whole generation because they're going to drive this into the schools.

And why do I think that this is the number one concern that we should have as Christians? What is my big issue with the Equality Act? And I said, we'll probably do a whole episode on this, but what I see with the Equality Act is this.

The Equality Act, the agenda behind it is to get the country justifying the hatred of Christians. And once they can do that, once they make a scapegoat of one group of people and people think it's acceptable to hate people for whatever the reason is, you're only one step away to the arrest and killing of mass people.

People feel justified to be able to hate Christians right now because of these views that they have, that they say we should have. And because this is no different than what happened in Nazi Germany. You had someone that to stay in power, he made scapegoats of the Jewish people.

And once that started, Hitler could not stop the train he started because the moment he stopped using the Jewish people as a scapegoat, that's when he didn't have the unity of all the different groups of people.

It's no different than in the Arab world where they all hate Israel for the sake of keeping themselves together. If they stopped hating Israel, they would start warring with one another. The unity in all those Arab states, their hatred for Israel.

It's no different with Nazi Germany. They hated the Jews. He created a hatred for the Jews so he could keep power. But that has to constantly be escalated, escalated, escalated until it comes to the mass termination of six million Jewish people.

This is what we're headed for in this country is it's just not gonna be Jewish people, it's gonna be Christian because you're seeing the mass hatred. The encouraging and the indoctrination of mass hatred for a group of people known as Christians, and that will end in their death.

Yeah.

The just unthinkable lunacy of being able to go on, you know, a website and order Mein Kampf, but you can't order Dr. Seuss. Now, if you go read a book like The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, which you've just referenced, what do you see in the history of Hitler's rise there?

Well, one of the things was we've got to get rid of all the propaganda. So you see book burnings. It was only a little step from burning books to burning bodies. This is where it leads.

Correct. Correct. Well, let's do let's do one. I want to pick one. It's your show. No, I just want to pick one, but I'll do that after this commercial. But what I want to pick up afterwards is the number of executive orders.

You sent me an article on the executive orders. And let's let's tackle that one right after this break.

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That's in Winter Garden, Florida. Anyone that's in that area, Winter Garden, Florida, you could contact Beulah Baptist Church. And we are going to be doing Justin Peters, myself, Anthony Svestro. Our section from the flames is our discernment conference.

It covers topics like interpreting the Bible, sufficiency of scripture, discerning false teachers, identifying or identifying false teachers. And then we do two sessions on social justice, giving a history and identifying social justice.

So that's going to be May 7th. But, you know, who knows? I'm going to be in the area. Maybe we could do a Bible interpretation made easy seminar at your church, Bud, in Jacksonville. We should talk to your pastor about that.

Andrew, you're listening. All right. So let's talk about there's a CNN article that you sent me that was covering the number of Biden executive orders.

And this is as of February 25th.

And that's important to note because he's writing executive orders at a record pace. And just so people understand, when we're saying a record pace, Joe Biden did 41 executive orders in his first month of office.