Are Women More Easily Deceived Than Men?

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All right, Tim, the question for today's episode is, are women more easily deceived than men?

Yeah, this is a Twitter conversation that I had with someone who was basically saying that women are not prone to deception,

more deception than men, period.

And the problem though is that as you read through the Bible, one of the things you're going to realize is that in 1 Timothy 2,

Paul essentially is mentioning the fact that women are not to teach or exercise authority over men, but to

remain quiet.

And he gives two reasons for this.

So the first reason, he says, is for Adam was formed first.

And then he says, and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

So the issue is that Paul seems to be grounding the fact that women are not allowed to be teachers

in the very nature of Eve herself, in that Eve was given over to deception in that moment.

And so this is a reason given why women are not to be teachers or exercise authority over men.

So it seems like the Bible at this point is saying, yes, women are more prone to deception than men,

despite the fact that this is currently scandalous to the minds of so many people.

Yeah, I would assume most people probably hear what you're saying as women are more stupider

than men, right?

Women are more stupider.

Yes.

What is that little kid saying

that people are always saying, like, boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider?

Is that basically what you're saying?

But instead of boys, it's girls.

Yeah, well, the idea of being more prone to deception really doesn't have anything to do with intellectual ability.

And this is some of the comments that people made along these lines when they're having a difficult time trying to separate these two

concepts.

Meaning, if you say that Eve, by nature of her ontology,

being a woman, there's something about her makeup that is fundamentally more prone to deception.

So much so that Paul doesn't permit a woman to teach her exercise authority over men, meaning she's not

made for it, meaning she has certain inbuilt kinds of limitations or temptations in there.

In the minds of many people, they go exactly where you are saying.

They understand that to be some sort of slight on women's intelligence.

But these two concepts are very different concepts.

And what I mean is that in the middle of the pandemic, or whatever

you want to call it, there's a great many intelligent people who made

choices that weren't very wise in those moments.

So it wasn't just about intelligence in the raw.

It wasn't just about raw facts, cold, hard facts and logic.

There's a lot of other things that seem to govern people besides just the facts of the matter or how

well you'll be able to score on a standardized test or something along those lines.

All the data out there shows that women and men are equal in terms of intelligence.

It just is funneled out into different areas of interest and different kinds of abilities.

So men are generally better at math and women are generally better in verbal areas, which is no

shock.

Women typically have a lot more words than men have in general.

And you think about something like chess.

All the chess masters are men with almost no exceptions.

There's one lady who maybe can compete, but other than that, she's not competing at the top level.

It's just the way it works is that intelligence is the same.

It's just funneled out in different ways.

But then not everything is a moral problem.

The issue is that men and women are two different types of creation.

Man is a different type of creation than woman.

And because of the fact that woman is a weaker vessel, some of this is related to

just her makeup, but then some of it's related to just her emotional makeup,

and some of it's related to her physical makeup.

So because women are smaller than men physically and men are significantly

stronger than women, part of what that means is that experience in life as a

woman is very different than experience in life as a man.

I've literally never been afraid of being raped, for example, in my entire life.

I've never had that fear, but then this is a frequent and recurring element of

life for women.

It's something that is running around in their background, of their mind, pretty regularly as you talk to women.

This is something that they're concerned about and there's something they're planning against.

So women in general, because of their smaller size, they are more fearful than men.

So they're more fearful than men as a brute reality of

being the weaker vessel living in a fallen world despite all the Marvel movies that exist in the world.

But then they're also more prone to worry.

They're more prone to anxiety.

They're more prone to depression.

So they're more prone to worry, anxiety, depression, and fears.

And all of that factors into this idea of deception in general.

Meaning, if you're undergoing a massive worldwide event like this pandemic and all that,

there are many people who respond to that in a fearful way.

And so women typically respond to the same situations as men, prioritizing different concerns.

So a woman is going to prioritize the concern of safety much more than a man is going to prioritize those certain

concerns.

And that's a feature.

That's a design feature that God has built into the system, which may mean that they have more tendencies to

be helicopter moms than men are, right?

Yeah.

So on a scale, they may be more prone to certain

temptations like fear and worry, which will lead them to latch on to certain unrealistic

solutions or over -the -top kind of solutions, kind of like we've seen in the pandemic.

That's just an obvious reality that everyone knows about that no one's allowed to talk about, but we all know.

I mean, if you're married even just a few months, you'll realize that your wife is definitely prone to be much more fearful than

you are.

Just look at YouTube videos of men on the internet, and they're constantly doing stupid and crazy things.

And the reason why is because they've been given an overabundance of courage and women have been given an overabundance of caution.

Yeah, you know, there's actually a whole subreddit on Reddit that's just called Hold My Beer.

And it's all men doing idiotic things that are hilarious to watch, but

they look pretty painful normally.

Yeah, or the Florida Man stuff, right?

The Florida Man memes.

But that's all just abundance of courage.

But what I mean is there are certain temptations that come from those kind of things.

The godliest women I know in my life, the godliest women I know, they really

still don't have a stomach for doing church discipline

or having hard conversations with people or rolling their sleeves up and doing these messy kind of things.

And the godliest women in my life, they almost will unfailingly think the best about people in a way

that you can admire, but then you can say, hey, that's kind of naive, right?

Yeah.

And the reason why is because they're governed by compassion much more than men, so we're different.

That's the point.

Now, if you have a person who's prone, more governed towards fear, caution, safety,

compassion, you put all that together and that leads to maybe temptations to be naive in

certain ways.

You see, just read, watch the news, you'll see that women are prone to certain

deceptions along those lines where they really do think that if we would have all just sat down and had a nice conversation with Hitler,

we could have sorted it out without all the bombs because he's just a real nice guy and seems

to say some nice things and all that.

And there is a kind of naivety that can come from unfailingly thinking the best about people.

You mentioned that example, and I haven't thought about this since I first saw it, but

there was a video that came out right as the Russia and Ukraine stuff

was really ramping up.

And it was this some girl, I don't know who she was, she was just some girl from

online who basically, she recorded herself reciting, I

guess, like a poem she had written, basically saying, hey, if I had been

Putin's mom, none of this would be happening because I would have shown you the love

that you needed or whatever.

And everyone, I mean, everyone laid into her over that, over how

naive it sounded.

But then it's just proving your point, right?

It is, yeah.

It is proving my point and everyone knows it.

And I mean, this is why fathers have a role to protect their daughters from all these scoundrel men.

And it's like, how many women have in tears after the relation, and I'm not laughing at this, but I mean,

after the relationship is over and she's like, hey, I thought he loved me.

How many times have women been taken by a man and deceived by a man

because a man, like he said he loved me, he said he cared about me, he really listened to me and whatever

else.

And it's just like that compassion, that's great.

Women are much more compassionate than men, but that can lead them to just not at times see

the obvious, that there are evil people in the world and you can't just write a poem and convince.

I really need to link that video in the description.

To not go to war.

It doesn't work that way today.

I mean, in all the police brutality kind of discussions, I mean, there are women who've just never seen

terrifying men's strength.

And they think that you can just have a cup of coffee and sort it all out and say nice things and use de -escalation techniques.

And it's just like, there are types of deception that come from having a more compassionate, tender,

refined nature that really doesn't know anything about aggression, male aggression

and male stubbornness.

And just unfailingly thinks the best about people.

And I can't tell you how many times in my life I've had these kind of discussions

with women in particular where you have an effeminate man who's flagging being a homosexual or whatever.

And unfailingly, it's like, he's gay.

It's like, you don't know that, right?

It's like, well, he's telling you he is, right?

And then months later he comes out and they're shocked about it.

It's like, how could you be shocked about this?

He literally is talking like a woman, walking like a woman.

The issue though is none of this is about intelligence.

We're not talking about intelligence.

What we're talking about is we're talking about a sensitive, compassionate nature that often is overly

cautious and prone to fear that can lead to some sort of built -in naivety.

Now, when you say that, what people don't have a category for is like an all -or -nothing proposition in their

mind.

And this is what's frustrating about these kind of conversations.

It's like an all -or -nothing kind of thing.

So it's like, yes, obviously, if you're married to a woman, you know that she more prioritizes

emotional considerations, like the emotional impact of any decision over and against what

you are gonna do.

But it's not like I said, men are 100 logical and women are 100 emotional and just incapable of a

logical thought in their brain or something like that.

It's just they have tendencies.

If you think about this, the percentages, I don't know what they are.

But let's say men are like 95 logic, 90 logic, 10 emotion or something like

that.

And women are 75%, 70 % logic, 30 % emotion or whatever.

It's just like we're talking about something like that.

You're not talking about zero or 100, right?

And so now what you want to do then is you want to, if you're gonna have a leadership position, you're gonna have a teaching

position, what you don't want to do is you don't want to have,

you want to have a person who is the least prone to deception in that position, right?

Right, yeah.

Especially when the position is so, is responsible for defending the

flock against things like false teachers, right?

And rightly dividing the word of God, right?

Right, and that's the way God's made men to have an overabundance of courage and he's made women to have an overabundance of compassion.

So you put those two things together and the lady is gonna rub off on the man and make him more compassionate than he otherwise

would be, right?

And he's gonna rub off on her and make her more courageous and realistic at

times than she would otherwise be, right?

So they're both gonna make each other more realistic, meaning she's gonna rub off on some of that reckless courage on him and

make him more realistic, right?

He's gonna rub off on that naivety on her end and make it a little bit more grounded and

like we have to take godly risk at times, right?

Yeah, yeah.

But then what you want to have happen is you want the man in the position of leadership and the woman rubbing off on him, pulling

him back.

You don't want the guy trying to push her forward.

You get what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah.

Because there are like real situations in life that require real courage.

So if you're storming the beaches of Normandy, you want the guy there who basically can look at that

and shut off all, like it has the capacity to shut off all the emotion and say, what do we have to do here,

right?

Yeah.

And like a man is much easier able to do that than a woman, right?

Now, but then you want her in the background keeping him from being just a total harsh steel wall.

Hold my beer.

Yeah, you want her doing that, but he's gonna be better equipped to say, all right, like we make this move, we

lose 10 ,000 young men, right?

Like, and so that's what you want.

Like you want her in the background helping him not to be a reckless fool.

And then at the same time, because, you know, like he couldn't bear to come home to her weeping or he couldn't

bear to die on the battlefield and have her left, you know, a mess of tears, you know, for the next,

like, that's what you want.

But so he's built to be strong and tough.

She's built to be sensitive and caring.

And that's why, you know, women are designed to take care of children.

And that's why men are designed to do the hard physical labor, go fight the battles.

And so we're just made differently.

And so when you're talking about this prone to deception thing, yeah, I mean, like women, because of their nature, they can certainly be

more naive.

They can certainly be a little bit more prone to think the best

about people in a way that they shouldn't, right?

And like, that's a good thing.

Like, that's a good thing.

And that's a creative feature, but I mean, it's just not an all or nothing proposition.

So, you know, what people hear when you say something like that is, oh, they're just hopelessly naive, you know, airhead,

never had a logical thought in their brain, you know, might as well just don't talk, you know, that kind of thing.

And it's just like, that's not what anyone's saying.

That's not what the Bible is saying.

And there's no reason to go there with it in your brain.

You know, I saw that Twitter thread where you were having that

conversation.

And I thought probably the most ironic thing about this conversation is

at some point, someone jumped in there who was basically

saying, hey, you know, women aren't more prone to deception than men, right?

That's what they're saying.

And then you go to their Twitter profile and in their bio, it says, maybe even

their name said this too, but basically said they were a woman pastor, right?

And it's like, okay.

So the person who doesn't even understand that the Bible very clearly condemns

female pastors, even in the passage that is being mentioned in this

conversation is saying, you know, hey, women aren't more prone to deception, right?

That was kind of the thing.

It was funny.

I mean, it was the most illogical kind of conversation with her that you can possibly imagine.

Like there was no logic or reason.

It was all just emotional arguments on the other side and she couldn't even see it, you know?

Like she's just proving the point.

I mean, in her case in particular, defiant irony, right?

Right, okay.

All right, well, fair enough.

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