Should Christians Be Preppers?

It's prepping biblical. That's what we're going to talk about today on Conversations with a Calvinist, which begins right now. Welcome back to Conversations with a Calvinist. My name is Keith Bosky, and I am a Calvinist.

And with me is Uncle Rich. Uncle Rich, how are you doing today, brother? Doing good.

Doing good. Apologize if I'm shining. We've been doing some work here. Yes.

Yes, absolutely. And we are doing our first show from the Theo Shed. Yes. That's what we're calling this. This is my new shed slash office slash studio. We don't have anything up on the background yet.

We're still working on it, but we wanted to try our first ever podcast from the studio. We got our mic set up. We got everything set up, and I think we're sounding okay.

Sounded good to me when we were testing it earlier. So yeah. And once you get all your knickknacks on the wall and get it specialized, it'll be, it'll be sweet.

Be nice and pretty. Well, today we're talking about the subject of prepping and preppers and whether or not that is biblical. But before we get into that subject, we're going to cut to a video of you and I testing out some emergency prepper food, which was donated to us, 72 hour survival food kit.

And we're going to show everybody what it takes to prepare that, what it tastes like. And they're not a sponsor, but they could be. I always put that out there. You're going to watch, we're going to shoot over to the video and then come right back in here.

This is a 72 hour survival food kit. Uncle Rich and I are going to sample this 72 hour survival food kit made by four patriots. Not a sponsor yet. Maybe. Yeah. If they want to be a sponsor, just give us a call.

We're going to see if this is any good. We're going to taste the breakfast, lunch, and dinner. What's in this package. I'm going to find out what's good and what's not.

What's your initial prediction? I had some survival food that was dehydrated years ago and it was okay. It was like sausage and chicken and stuff like that. So I'm 50 50 and whether or not it's going to be any good.

First things first is we're going to actually open this thing up. All right. So let's see what is in the bag.

If the cat jumps up, takes a bite and leaves, that's all you need to know.

Okay. The bag is full of other bags. We have, Ooh, creamy rice and vegetable dinner.

We got Grammy's sweet oatmeal. I'm guessing that's breakfast.

Okay. So Grammy's sweet oatmeal. That's all. Okay. There's three, there's three packs in this 72 hour survival food kit. Delicious meals for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It's 72 hours, but it's only three packages.

One's breakfast, one's lunch, and one's dinner. I have a curious, are you supposed to like, cause 72 hours is three days. That is correct.

I guess you got to ration it out. So what I'm thinking is what happens here is you make the whole thing and then you ration from there for the next 72 hours. Okay. So this is one person.

It's gotta be one person. It's one person for three days, but you're going to be eating the same oatmeal, Mac and cheese and creamy rice and vegetables. You know what? I don't see. Meat. Dude. I didn't make the kit.

Again, there's no, I would have thought something in here would have had, here's the thing. It's called four Patriots.

If there ain't no meat, like canned meat somewhere, they're going to go kill some meat. All right. So don't worry. So what we're going to do now is we're going to go cook all this up and get it ready to go.

So the next shot you'll see, we'll have it out here in prep and we're going to try it and we'll see what we got.

Testing 72-Hour Survival Food

Okay. So we have, uh, we have done all the cooking. It took about 30 minutes to do all the prep. Some of it took 20 minutes to cook. Some of it took only a couple of minutes to cook. So I think we should do this in order of how we would eat it in life because breakfast is the first meal of the day breakfast.

We have, uh, what did it say? Grandma's?

Grandma's oatmeal or something like that. It sounds like it's got some maple syrup in it. Sweet oatmeal. Sweet oatmeal. I'm just going to dip some up for the camera to see. Okay. Of my own. All right.

So there you go. This is oatmeal and, uh. I'll eat mine out of the bowl. How about that? There you go. Here we go. All right. Three, two, one. Hot. Yeah. That's the last thing we cooked was oatmeal. It smells like a McGriddle from McDonald's.

You get a McGriddle, it's got that heavy syrup smell, sweet smell, but you don't taste a lot of it. It's just bland. It's not bad.

I mean, if I had to eat it, I could eat it. Yeah. I mean, if I was surviving, again, it says survival food. Right. So, I mean. And there's more in there, right? Like there, like this was a bigger amount.

Right.

There's a whole pot of this. So three days worth of food now. This is a pretty big one. This is almost all the macaroni. There's a little bit of macaroni left. This is all the dinner. So you've got to splice that up three ways.

So it seems like the idea is eat a big breakfast, eat a middle-of-the-road lunch, light on the dinner. Because I think the mac and cheese is the lunch, the lunch entree. You think mac and cheese is lunch?

I think that's lunch because there's more of it. Well, here. Give me some. So let's give it a shot. Three, two, one. Again, you know, I'm not going to pay for this at a restaurant.

It's not bad. I could eat it. Now, let's say I came to your house and you were having dinner and you served me this and called it macaroni and cheese. I probably wouldn't say anything. Like it would probably be enough macaroni and cheese-like that it's not.

It wouldn't cause suspicion. It would just make me think you bought cheap mac and cheese.

You know when you have a church potluck and there's always that one dish of mac and cheese that's just dry and just, it's barely mac and cheese? This is that. This is that one lady in your church that can't cook.

She doesn't deserve to be a Baptist. Now that I'm interested to see if it's worth a darn. So this is Oh, that's all right.

He said darn. One per episode, at least once, Rich has to say darn. I don't even realize I'm doing it.

All right. So this is the creamy rice and vegetable dinner. It looks like goo, but we'll see. It smells like rice and roni. Ready? That ain't bad. That's good. I know, that's good. I like that. That's actually not bad.

And this is the one that's got the least amount of. I could eat that whole bowl. Yeah. Yeah.

Now, that's good food. That is good. Now, I said earlier there's no meat. Right. But this would, this is hearty. Right. I could eat all of that. That I like. Fort Patriot 72 hour survival food kit, delicious meals for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Breakfast in this pouch had supposedly three days worth of oatmeal. It was good. It was, you know. A little salt, a little pepper, you'd be all right. Yeah. Macaroni and cheese, a little dry, but it tastes like macaroni and cheese.

It doesn't taste like sand or something. It's a little dry. It's like, you know, like you said, the one thing at the potluck, the lady can't cook. It's okay. You gotta do it. But this stuff, this is the winner.

I mean, if this was a contest, this is a, I'm going to sit and eat this while we do the podcast. I would say taste, I give it an overall seven. I can agree with that. Okay. Six or seven. Yeah. Easy to prepare.

I'd say also maybe an eight. Cause really it's just boil water and pour it in.

Right. It's measure out water and boil it and mix it and cook it for 20 minutes.

I mean, that's the easy. And amount, I give it a four.

Right. Well, we're also judging it by what we normally, what we normally, a plate of food used to be a big, and that was all you needed. And people went all day on that. And now we've just grown it to where it's these massive, you want a steak, you want the whole left side of the cow.

I just got a carrot.

He got some, he didn't like ladies and gentlemen, no, no, the carrot was fine. It just was big. And that was a replacement for the meat.

So I mean, if you're in a serious crisis situation, this will work.

As I said in the video, I'm still eating the rice. It was really good, except for, I just bit down on a green pea. Sure wasn't broccoli? No, that was a, that was a green pea. Okay. And it was not suitable for consumption.

You found the one thing that didn't cook in all of it. That's hilarious. It's, it was hard. Okay. So as you and I know, there's a lot of people out there that do what we call prepping. And what we wanted to discuss today was whether or not the idea of prepping is biblical, whether or not we would consider ourselves to be preppers or in that camp.

And there's sort of a spectrum, I think, of people that would consider themselves to be preppers or prepping. And so we wanted to ask the question, is prepping biblical? Is, you know, what does it mean to be a prepper?

And ultimately, is this something that a Christian should want to be or a Christian should try to be? So what do you think of when you think of the word prepper, Richard? What is your, when, is it somebody that just has, you know, things in savings, food and stock?

Or is there more to it than that?

Well, my mind goes to a spectrum, so, because I've seen different levels of it. I've seen the level where, you know, with my own eyes, where a fella had a garage and he had multiple shelves and he had everything from canned meat to canned vegetables.

Some of the stuff that we, the kits, the whole garage. I mean, floor to ceiling, all the way around, loaded with food. He had years worth of food in there. Yeah. And that was because he was worried about when everything falls apart.

And this is 10, 12 years ago. Everything falls apart. He wanted to be, he didn't want to rely on anyone. So you got that extreme level where it's, he had to spend a lot of time. An effort, him and his wife putting all this together.

And then you got those who, like you said, do nothing. So it's just, it depends on what you're prepping for. You know, are you prepping just to make sure you can feed your family? You got people, I've seen, there used to be a TV show called Preppers or something like that.

Doomsday Preppers. They had bunkers. I mean, they put bunkers in the ground and loaded them up so they could like just hide. I don't know from who.

Yeah. Yeah. And again, I know folks who were like, who watch the show and it's like, daggum.

And to a degree, I can understand the idea of wanting a bunker that you could lock from the inside and you're self-contained for two or three years because if it, let's say you had like a crisis scenario where there's no food on the shelves, there's no grocery stores, there's nothing.

Yeah. And your neighborhood gets wind that you got two years worth of food. Guess whose house we're coming to? Sure.

You're going to get robbed blind. That's why a lot of folks who store food also store some type of tool to protect the food, whether it be firearms or something.

Right. So that's the extreme though. So they're thinking about if it all just goes in a handbasket, they can hide and nobody can get to them. You're going to have to blow the door off of the daggum bunker to get in there to them.

You know, they'll sacrifice the house. They'll be staying in their little 30 by 30 underground cubicle with everything they need. So, okay. And then, so that's the extreme, then you got middle of the road and then you got people who do nothing.

And I'm sure we'll talk about each level of that from a theological perspective as we go further. But that's where my mind goes when you talk about preppers. Yeah.

And like you said, if we put it on a spectrum, it would be the spectrum of you've got people who do, who are completely self-contained and they go what some people call off grid. I remember a few years ago when we first moved into this house, I wanted to get solar panels on the house.

Right. And I asked the lady to come to the house and, or ask them to send a salesperson out so I could talk about solar panels. And when they were here, I said, I said, I want to get solar panels on the house.

And they were saying, and the lady was, you know, well, why do you want solar panels? What's your motivation? I said, well, I want to be able to have electricity if the electricity doesn't work. You know, if the grid goes out, I want to still have electricity.

And she said, oh, you want to go off grid? I said, no, I'm not. I don't care about being off grid. I want air conditioning if it's hot. You know, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't trying to separate myself from FPL or JEA or whoever, you know, whoever the electrical group is.

I wanted to be able to have my house. And she says, well, you need a generator because solar panels don't work that way. They have to, you know, they feed the grid and you still get your electricity from the grid, which surprised me.

I didn't realize that. If you have solar panels and power goes out, your power goes out because the solar panel is feeding the grid.

It's just a way to save money, supposedly. Yeah.

And so, like you said, there is a spectrum. And I did want to look at a few Bible verses today, because I think the Bible verses sort of speak to the spectrum. I think the Bible verses sort of help make a line and we'll pull up a few here while you do that.

There's another element I just came to my mind that of another kind of prepper, but it's not like story, it's the homesteader. So they can in real time just survive off of their property. Yes. There are people that are attempting to do that.

They're not necessarily off grid, but if they didn't have power, they have their manual wells. They, they have enough crops and livestock and so forth, so on, that they could survive off of their own resources for a period of time.

Yeah. Provided you don't have the situation we were talking about before where you just start getting looted out of your brains. Yeah. And you get taken over and all your stuff is stolen.

But like you, you have a garden.

Yeah. I got a, I got a fairly good sized garden.

Yeah. I mean, if I compare it to my garden, which is like 10 by 14, you know, we have two, two rows of corn, a row of green beans that ain't growing and we got a whole mess of zucchini. So the zucchini is doing well.

The one thing I don't eat is doing great.

Out here, squash and zucchini, those kinds of plants go crazy.

Yeah. But you have a couple of acres worth or maybe not.

I have a couple acres. I've got, it's probably, rows are probably about 30, 35 feet long, but I, and you know, but the garden goes for 150 feet. Yeah. So it's not a huge garden by some standards, but it's big compared to what

Sure.

Yeah. It's not a farm, but it's definitely a pretty good sized garden. So if you were, let's just say you needed to survive, how, how much, how, how, how much food does that produce for you?

Well, I don't know what this one's going to do cause I haven't ever, um, gardened this particular ground. It's a different challenge than where you're at, where you're at, where I gardened before. So I can use what I did here.

If you were to take and do what I did here, which I had three garden plots that were 24 by 60, I was able to put up enough green beans, squash, corn, um, zipper cream peas, and, uh, what else do we have?

We had okra, but we were doing that just to pickle and sell, but I was able to put up enough for those vegetables to feed then, um, five people for, or four people for the whole year. So I had enough to where I could do a meal a week with each item.

So I had 50, 60 quarts of green beans, I had 50, 60 quarts of squash, I had 50, 60 quarts of corn. So I could, you know, once a week use the vegetables and a quart, I mean, if I had to split it up, I could split it up.

And so I say a year's worth, I had at least where I could do a meal a week with each vegetable, um, which was not bad considering I only had three plots that were 60 feet by 20 feet, you know?

So when people talk about, uh, what is it, the phrase people use, um, uh, eating, uh, whole food, like that's whole food when you, when you put the seed in the ground and you're harvesting it, preparing it and all those things.

There were times where we'd have a meal and I'd have red fish I caught and vegetables out of the garden. And that's all we, everything came from me, was something I harvested.

And not to go off the subject, there's a certain sense in which that, that, that feels good.

Right. When I sit down to my cream corn, my zipper cream peas and my red fish that I've grown.

And caught it, I killed it, I skinned it, but you don't skin fish. What do you do? I fillet the fish. I fillet the fish, uh, yeah. And, and, and all that. Right. So, so that's, that's, there's a certain, uh, whole, whole wholesomeness to that.

Right. And in that sense, that's great. I, you know, your son, we went fishing, you know, your son's a, you know, just like you out there, you know, casting, reeling, pulling, you know, I'm trying to bait the hook, having a hard time.

Again, I was made for the indoors. I, I'm real good at tech stuff. Uh, not, not so good at the outdoorsy stuff, but I'm trying to get there. And it's beyond fishing.

I ain't worth a darn hunting. Well, so, um, there's guys out there and go and harvest a whole lot more meat than I could. Yeah. But Greg goes down, I got the vegetables, they got the meat, we'll trade.

Well, what you just said kind of gets back to what we're talking about. So like I said, the grid goes down and that's what a lot of people, when they say prepping, they're prepping for that. But, but also we, we saw when COVID hit the reality of empty shelves there, you know, the first thing to go was toilet paper and, and, and blew my mind.

But I know, but, but, but, but it was, it was first thing to go was toilet paper and people had to realize, okay, what I do now, buy a bidet, you know, install, I mean, you know, uh, use, uh, rags, you know, what are you going to, what are you going to do?

Right. And, um, but then we started seeing food off the shelves. We started seeing, you know, no water, no, you know, which again, bottled water isn't necessarily a necessity if you have a tap at the house.

But, you know, when you see things on the shelf gone, begins to make you remind you that these supply lines are always very, uh, dependent. And vulnerable. Vulnerable. Thank you. That's the word I was looking for.

A better word. Yeah. So we have vulnerable supply lines and people say, well, I want to, I want to know that I can provide for myself and for my family in the event of an emergency. Right. And that's often what the prepper is thinking about.

You know, we, we, we, like, so we get to the hard extremes of the, of the, you know, doomsday thinking that I think that's a hard extreme, but most folks, you know, good, good fathers, good mothers wanting to provide for their families and ensure that their families have everything that they need.

That's, there's, there's some nobility in that. There, in fact, there's a lot, there's, there's a lot of good in that. So let's look at a few scripture verses here. Here's one that came to my mind whenever we were thinking about this particular subject, this is from Proverbs chapter six.

And it deals with the sluggard versus the ant. It uses the ant, the animal or the insect as a example of diligence in work and Proverbs six, verse six says, go to the ant old sluggard, consider her ways and be wise without having any chief officer or ruler.

She prepares her bread and summer and gathers her food and harvest. How long will you lie there? Old sluggard. When will you arise from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest and poverty will come upon you like a robber and want like an armed man.

So it's the proverb here is, is warning us about the problem of, uh, uh, laziness. Sluggard is laziness. And in fact, um, and tell a funny story real quick. My son, when my wife was teaching my son through the Proverbs, this is JJ.

And he heard the word slugger and he just got very interested. What is a sluggard? What does it mean to be a slugger? And she's a lazy person. And he made this big, like, like, like he would like, like mommy, am I being a sluggard?

Like, like, like he really got to him. Like, I don't want to be that. I don't want to do that. Uh, and to the point where one day he goes, I think there don't be a sluggard should be one of the 10 commandments.

Like, like, like that was his, you know, he was really concerned, but when we think of a sluggard, we think of someone who is lazy, right? Is someone who isn't preparing for the future being lazy?

Well, um, when I think about when, when, when you read this verse as he's reading it, my mind was going to, let's, let's talk about the timeframe. It was being written. Okay. And let's go, let's think about like early American settlers, especially in Northern areas, the winter's coming.

So there wasn't like grocery stores. And so you had to get the food you needed to survive the winter. Yep. The lazy person has got enough for now, but when the hard times hit and you can't grow the crops and you can't find the meat and you can't even be out in the elements because it's too cold, you're going to be looking to your neighbor to support you.

That's what I've, I think that's the heart of what this proverb is. You need to be self-sufficient and prepare to be able to take care of your family. So that means you've got to do more work now. So when everything's just dead later, you're, you're prepared.

You've got meat in the, well, the proverbial freezer, they cured it with salt and stuff back in the day, but you understand what I'm saying? You had to prepare for those long winters and stuff like that.

And I'm sure biblical times, there was times you had to do that as well. Um, in today's context, because we have grocery stores, it's easy to be lazy because we have a ton of people who do not work, who live off of the government and have groceries at their fingertips.

You literally can go online now. I don't, other than going and delivering my cakes, I can do everything from home. Hit up Kroger, have the groceries delivered, want to eat dinner, but don't want to cook it, have the pizza delivered.

Everything's at your fingertips. The concept of working and providing for yourself is no more. And I think that's the context we're missing here. Cause there was a, there's an element of prepping back in the old days.

Yeah. They didn't call it prepping. They called it living. They called it living. You had to, okay. So we've got from March to, and I'm just guessing, you know, April to September to get everything in line because October, November, December, and January and February, it's going to be rough and we ain't gonna be out there tilling the ground and planting stuff.

And we ain't gonna be out there hunting because they ain't gonna be able to do it. You better have your ducks in a row. So six months, six, seven months a year, you're, you're preparing for that downtime of the year.

You don't have that now. So we had to flip the context to now. Okay. If you're not prepping for the future in the sense of when everything reverts back to that kind of lifestyle, because the grid goes down, electricity is no more, you don't have running water.

There's no more, you know, you can't just go to the grocery store and just pick up what you want. Kroger ain't running, whatever the case may be. Are you prepared to make it six, eight months while our government gets everything back in line?

That's the idea. Yeah. And I think a lot of people aren't ready to make it six or eight days.

Right. Um, most people are paycheck to paycheck. Um, and if you're listening, if you're watching this, you're listening to your paycheck to paycheck, because that's, that's just your lot in life right now.

Please understand. I'm not putting you down. Sure. Yeah. Um, but there are folks that are paycheck to paycheck because they put themselves so far in debt, they can't be anything else, but yeah. And so they need to get themselves out of debt so that they can have an emergency fund or whatever the case may be.

Um, and listen, I'm not, I couldn't go eight months without, I couldn't make it eight months off of what I've got saved up and what little bit I got in the pantry. Sure. I'm in the same position, you know, I'm growing, I'm trying to get to where I'm storing up food and doing those things, but it's expensive to do, especially nowadays.

Um, so there's a lot of folks that I haven't prepped for that disastrous time. Um, and a lot of country folks, and I'm talking about guys like me, they think, well, Greg goes down, I'll just go out there and I'll hunt and I'll kill a deer and I'll do this and I'll do that.

I'll be fine. Well, some of you may be able to do that, but some of you may realize, okay, maybe I won't be able to kill a deer every day of the week, once a week, I might not be able to. Everybody's trying to kill the deer.

There you go. If everybody's, you know, in that same state, cause you're not the only one that's going to have the supply line dried up. Everybody's going to have the supply line dried up. If, if that were to happen.

So if that's your mentality, walk outside and just look around your neighborhood and think, okay, if I had to compete with the 20 other people in this area, am I going to come out on top? Yeah. Or am I gonna be able to work with the 20 people in this area?

So we can like put a little commune together and work together.

And therein lies another part of this. And that is, uh, cause I was reading up a little bit as I was preparing for today's podcast, just sort of reading on what some different people have said about the subject.

And one of the things that was said was that prepping is selfish. And the argument was because you're only concerned about your survival and you're only concerned about your family. And by stockpiling your things, you're not, you're not thinking about what you just said, which is, can the community come together and mutually benefit and survive?

No, you're, and again, I'm sure there are some people that are, that do fall into that category. Right. That, that it's, it would be, you know, me and my family, you know, is, is all that matters and there wouldn't be any, any, any attempt to work together.

So I could see that being an issue could see that being at least, I think my mind.

While I was thinking about coming to do this program today, my mind goes to what we've been talking about in our Wednesday night classes. We've been talking a lot about idolatry and idolatry is basically anything that takes precedent over God in your life.

So the way Cody put it was, if I take X away from you, or if you can't do X, does it upset you to the point where you're like angry, mad, despair, whatever. If you can't have X or do X, can you, can you, can you function?

Still have joy. Still have joy. And if the answer is no, that's your idol. So there is an element, I think, where you can, and we're going to talk about the pendulum swings now, you can swing all the way to the too far and fall into the ditch of, okay, I've got to, I've got to get five years worth of stuff up and I've got, that's got to be my main focus for now until I get it.

And the problem is once you get it, then you're like, well, what's the next thing I got to do? Well, maybe I get six or maybe I get, and that becomes like, so you're so focused on that and making sure you survive the zombie apocalypse or whatever you're worried about coming that you take a complete focus off of Christ, your family, all that, because you're so, it is almost, you're so worried about making sure your family's okay, that you begin to neglect your family and the spiritual needs that you as a father are supposed to take care of.

But then the pendulum swing the other way of, and we talked about this on a phone call, just let go and let God, you know, God will provide for every little need I got and I don't need to worry about it.

You know, if the bottom falls out, he's going to make sure I got something to eat. Okay. But those people still go to work every day. Why don't you use that same mentality for every day?

And that, and that brings to another verse, there's two more verses I want to.

Look at and kind of run and ramble in there for a little bit.

No, it's fine. It takes me, it takes me this because this verse says, and then this is second Thessalonians 3 .10 for anybody who wants to look this up. It says, for even when we were with you, we would give you this command and the command is this, if anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

So there is a biblical ethic of work. We, we, we've talked to sometimes about the Protestant work ethic, which is something that was, uh, the, the historically is, is pointed towards Protestantism where men began to see their vocations as callings from God.

So rather than just, you know, you, you, you're not just a plumber, but you're a plumber, you're God's plumber, you're a plumber to the glory of God. You're not just a cake, man. You are God's cake, man.

Well, I understand that and I understand the thinking behind that because when.

You work, work it to the Lord, everything you do do that in the name of Lord Jesus Christ,. I'm going to be preaching on this in a couple of weeks. Colossians three tells us everything you do do in the name of the Lord Jesus.

When I used to have my screen printing business, I had on the wall, Colossians three 16, and it was, it was for that purpose of reminding, this is the, the, uh, the call and that is to do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Um, might be three 18. I might've got that wrong. So if you check, check my addresses, people don't assume. Uh, so with that in mind, yes, we are called to work. We're called to be diligent workers. We're called not to be lazy.

Work is not a product of the fall. People sometimes say that work is a product of the fall, but Adam worked prior to the fall, uh, uh, difficulty in work, the thorns and thistles and, and a garden that won't produce that's, that's, uh, the product of the fall.

Yeah. I told my wife yesterday we were weeding the garden and I stopped for a minute. I looked at her and I said, I just want to slap Adam and Eve in the face. Cause this is drudgery because of the fall.

There was a time when there was a brief time in man's history where this was enjoyable and you didn't have to do this, just grow it. And it grew. Um, but going back to the idea of being lazy and you know, what you said there about if a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat.

If you're in back to adult adultery and it's a heart issue, if you're prepping and putting food up and making sure that you've got supplies for three months, six months, eight months, making sure you've got, you know, some people instead of having cash in, you know, under the mattress or in the bank, especially nowadays and with the banks kind of doing what they're doing, you know, they've, they've got gold and silver saved up and stuff like that as a hedge against, you know, the dollar crashing or whatever you have currency going back to old school currency.

If you're doing all that because you want to do your job as a husband and do your job as a wife and a mother and a father to make sure that you and your family is protected and taken care of, but it's not taking the place or superseding your spiritual, um, your job as a husband and a wife to disciple and discipline and take care of your spiritual needs of your children, as well as the physical needs and Christ is still in the center and the top.

Then I don't see anything wrong with it because you're, you're doing what you're just taking the next logical step in, uh, being the provider and protector for your family in the physical sense. Okay.

The needs are met day to day. The bills are paid day to day, but what if, okay, well, let's make sure we can, we can feed these four or five kids for six, eight months if I didn't have the job and there's an element in which, you know, you might lose your job and it might take, I'm 43 years old.