Top Ten Evidences for Noah's Flood - Genesis Apologetics 2023

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So with that introduction, let's talk about Noah's Flood starting from Scripture. So I would sit here and say that the credibility of the whole of Scripture depends on whether Noah's Flood actually happened or not.

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We have Moses that talked about it because the Genesis account of the Flood is the longest narrative event of any single event in all of Scripture.

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It's three chapters long, it's got dates and diaries and all kinds of great details in it.

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Then we have Peter and Paul both talked about the Flood, Jesus referenced the Flood in Matthew 24.

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So all of Scripture talks about the Flood. It's a topic that permeates all through Scripture. So if it's a myth, our faith is also standing on shaky background.

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But it's not a myth, it's something that's happened and the world's working really hard to obscure it.

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So we get asked this question a lot, so when was Noah's Flood? So if we just take our current biblical text, which is based upon the

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Masoretic text tradition, it was about 4 ,400 years ago, or about 2348

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BC. There's some interesting interpretations you can do with Abraham and his sojourn that might park it back to 2518

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BC. And some people believe in the setup of textual traditions called the

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Septuagint, which have some different dates in it that would bring it all the way back to 3168.

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But either way, we can stand here with certainty and tell you that Noah's Flood was bracketed between those timeframes, and I have no problem with the more natural date of about 4 ,400 years ago.

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How long did it last? Well, we've all heard that it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, but the actual flood was a 371 -day process.

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The Bible is very clear. It gave us a narrative of what happened and when, and it talks about a week and 40 days and 150 days, as mentioned, for some other stuff.

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But over the 371 days, we have the water raising and increasing and hitting what's called a zenith at a day 150, so the water raised up and the fountains of the great deep were open for 150 days.

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Then God shut the fountains of the great deep and the water began subsiding and then sheet flowing off of the continents and then going into channelized cuts as it receded off the continents for another 150 days and then earth dried out for about 70 days.

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So that's the one -year overview of the flood and some verses there that talk about that. And we also get asked this a lot.

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So I was in a recent discussion with another Christian who was presenting a different worldview about Noah's Flood, and he says, well, we know that Noah's Flood couldn't have happened literally because you can't take 1 .5

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million species on the ark. And what he said by doing that was just a demonstration of a lack of understanding of what the account talks about.

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The Bible is very clear that Noah only took the sorts or the kinds of the animals probably at the family level with respect to the biology tree.

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So not the species, not the genus, but probably the family level. So if you take the dog kind, for example, we have over 339 breeds of dogs currently, but they all go back to Canis lupus or the current, or the wolf kind, and the same thing with horses.

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There's 336 breeds of horses. But did you know that you could take the gigantic Clydesdale horses and breed them with a miniature horse and they're still interfertile?

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So that's the horse kind, and then we have the dog kind. And the bear kind is even more interesting. There are eight different species of bears in the

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Ursidae family, which is the bear family. But did you know that five of those eight species are still interfertile?

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You can breed a black bear with a grizzly bear, with a polar bear, and they're all still interfertile.

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So there's the bear kind, and of course chickens, you've got 68 different breeds of chickens, but they're also interfertile.

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So if we were to take the entire animal tree of life and pair it back in the same way, you're only at about 3 ,000 animal kinds that had to be brought on the ark.

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So with 3 ,000 different sorts or kinds of animals, there was no problem loading them up on a ship that was this big, 300 cubits long by 30 cubits tall by 50 cubits wide.

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And a cubit was from your elbow to the tip of your finger, which is about 18 to 21 inches.

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So the ark was about 450 to 500 feet long by 50 feet by 80 feet.

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So you had plenty of room there for storage, 3 ,000 different types of animals, fresh water and everything else that you would need.

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So about half the size of the Titanic, about half the size of the Queen Mary, probably two -thirds the size of the

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Titanic there. It was a big ship, you know, mighty enough for doing all of the work that God needed it to do.

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Was it seaworthy? Well, some people have studied this. Dr. Shian actually pressure tested the ark, took 12 different models of it at the

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Korean Naval Research Center and tried 12 different possible dimensions of Noah's ark to see if it was really seaworthy and determined that of all those different shapes and dimensions, the biblical dimensions of 300 by 50 by 30 were best with respect to three different characteristics, with respect to the being balanced, having maximum comfort, and the strength and stability.

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So the dimensions that God gave to Noah were perfect for a ship like this. And when you have big container ships coming into Long Beach all the way over from China, they will typically have a seven to one length to width ratio, just like Noah's ark had.

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So we've actually gone the next step and have taken the dimensions of Noah's ark and have hired different hydraulic expert companies and maritime expert companies that look at the physics, the water physics, and the hydraulic, and the nature, and how seaworthy these things are.

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And they tested the ark against some of the ancient other myths, well, the Bible's not a myth, but mythical accounts about Noah's ark, like the

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Epic of Gilgamesh. Has everyone heard about the Epic of Gilgamesh? It's actually required reading in today's colleges, which is interesting.

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But when we did this, we found that if you take the Beaufort storm scale, which is like, goes from number one for light rain all the way up to 12, which is a huge, huge hurricane, and take

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Noah's ark and put it into these stormy conditions, it would last all the way up to Beaufort scale 10 or 11 before capsizing.

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But the Gilgamesh ark would rotate and turn around because they said it was a big square. So we have a result of that simulation.

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I'll show you here if the video works all right. Something like this fair during a catastrophic worldwide flood.

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It would obviously tumble, killing or maiming its passengers. That's obviously quite different than the biblical ark, which had a seven to one length to width ratio, which is very similar to many of today's ocean barges.

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So very, very, very seaworthy. It's interesting that God gave that account to Noah. And we have many, many ships today that will take on the same shape and size.

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So I also found it very interesting when doing this research that, you know, that there are six leading myths about worldwide floods that all originate from the same area where the ark landed.

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There's the Eridu tablet, the Sumerian king's list, the Enuma Elish, Atrahasis, the

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Simmons ark tablet, and the Epic of Gilgamesh. They all originate from that area and they're echoes from the true account.

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Here's what those things look like. We would write them down on cuneiform and they have similarities about Noah's flood.

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And we know that they were drawn from the actual real Noah's flood because isn't this interesting? They all have the same common elements.

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If you take all of these leading flood myths, well, they always talk about God who is going to be punishing mankind.

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There's always one chosen person to build the ark. There's a family that's saved, the animals get saved, a god or the gods will make a vessel with certain specifications that's going to survive the flood.

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Some of these accounts talk about a bird flying around and a sacrifice that's done afterwards. But one of the things that's interesting when you look at the myths like the

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Epic of Gilgamesh and contrast it with the real biblical account is that myths will always get more and more mythical, but the truth that we have in Genesis 6 to 9 is a real account that's actually much more believable.

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So a quick short video about that. ...are based on historical accounts, but they get embellished over time, becoming more and more mythical as the story is repeated over generations.

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This is exactly what we see with flood myths like Gilgamesh. They take the original historical account, the biblical flood, and grow it into a mythical, interesting story.

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So we have the Epic of Gilgamesh, which is arguably the leading mythical flood account, and that account says that the

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Noah's ark was built over one week. It was 200 feet square. It was only in the ocean for a week, and it definitely wasn't seaworthy, would tumble around.

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So we can look at all these inferences and all these different mythical accounts and say the biblical is the only one that was credible.

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It took between 55 and 75 years for Noah to build the ark, was probably upwards of 500 feet long, could definitely last in the ocean for a year, and was definitely seaworthy.

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So if we just take a look at where we believe the Tower of Babel was, and we radiate out on Google Earth here from the

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Tower of Babel, you see all of those yellow circles that are on the page there? Those are flood myths that spread over almost every people group around the world.

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There's now been tallied over 370 mythical legends about Noah's flood in almost every people group, and the ones that you see up there on the screen now in America are all the

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Native American tribes. Now some of their myths and oral histories and legends seem pretty far -fetched, but some of them are really, really uncanny.

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They really sound like they overlap right on top of Noah's flood. There's a guy named Nick that's come up with a book called

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Echoes of Ararat, and he's gone through and spent years in interviewing all these tribal leaders about their ancient oral traditions, and account after account after account, somehow after the

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Tower of Babel dispersion, the people groups that spread around after the flood are carrying with them the traditions and the histories about Noah's flood.

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So the closer we get into where the actual flood happened is the more and more these accounts seem to nail all the details better.

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So the closer we get to where the Tower of Babel was, the more and more the flood account details seem to line up with what the

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Bible talks about. Just fascinating, fascinating stuff, but we have over 300 of those legends.

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Here's a book called Echoes of Ararat, a really scholarly work. This guy's gone around the world and interviewed people, different histories about the legends of the flood.

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So let's take a look now at some key Bible verses that talk about the mechanisms of the flood. In Genesis chapter 7, we have probably the most crucial verse about how the mechanics of the flood went.

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Genesis 7, 11 says, in the 600th year of Noah's life, in the second month, in the 17th day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up.

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In the Hebrew for that term, broken up, is bakad, and it carries the idea of being cleaved open and the windows of heaven were open.

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So the key is this, something happened on the ocean floor that unleashed the flood.

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Well what is that? Well this group of people in the 1990s, six PhD researchers got together and framed a theory called catastrophic plate tectonics.

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And I absolutely think they nailed it. The good Lord allowed them in these days to figure out what the flood looked like, how it happened, how quickly it rolled out.

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And here's what it would have looked like when the fountains of the great deep broke open. We would have rifting on the ocean floor as a magma comes up and breaches the oceanic floor.

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We have supercritically heated steam jets that are coming up vertically and going all over the world, starting from the ocean and going up.

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And we have Pangea that would be breaking apart during this process. This is a model from Dr.

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John Baumgardner, he's probably the leading flood geologist in the world. He's been studying Noah's flood for 40 years after getting his

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PhD in geophysics from UCLA. He worked this model out so well that people are actually buying his software for doing secular oil and coal exploration.

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So he showed actually how the continents broke apart, the speed at which they broke apart during the

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Noah's flood. It was about five miles an hour. So we don't have continental drift, we have continental sprint.

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So we have a Pangea -like formation where our supercontinent, where Earth was mostly together before the flood, the fountains of the great deep break open and God uses that as a mechanism for pushing the continents apart.

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And I'll show you in just a minute here why we have the dinosaur fossil record that really supports that. But this is a video that shows where those fountains of the great deep are.

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The oceanic rift system goes 40 ,000 miles around the globe, covers it 1 .6

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times, and we can go to these locations and see them today. The largest one is the

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Mid -Atlantic Ridge. You guys have probably heard about this in school. It's a 10 ,000 -mile scar that goes down the

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Atlantic Ocean. And if we take the water away, which is like the map over on the right here, we can see how these continents fit perfectly matching back together.

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And we know it happened quickly because the same type of fossils that are born on one side of the continent are the same type of fossils we find on another continent, now 2 ,000 miles away, but they're currently buried in the mud that was involved when the continents were being pushed apart like that.

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So a huge, like a baseball -seam tear right there down the middle of the world.

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So it happened when the seafloor spread. So if we have magma coming up that breaches the seafloor, it creates a conveyor belt that goes in two direction.

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The magma comes up and it cools when it hits the ocean water, then it forms new seafloor that's pushed out to the right and to the left like a giant conveyor belt.

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New seafloor is being formed and it's being pushed apart. So here we have the magma that comes up, generates a new seafloor, and it's going out to the left and to the right.

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Then it's going to hit the landmasses and it's going to subduct. And this is the mechanism that's creating tsunamis on a worldwide basis.

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Every 5, 10 minutes or so, probably during the flood, we're building up tension and creating massive tsunamis that are sheet flowing against the continents and peeling back off.

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I could stop right here and show you one slide that should convince you that Noah's Flood is this mechanism better than anything else.

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Because if you just consider, the dinosaurs are buried in stratified layers of mud all over the world.

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If you just go to Utah, you find all these stratified layers of sheet flow tsunamis that came up and retreated back, leaving mud.

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And then it came up and then retreated back. It was happening in cycles all over the world. And these tsunamis were caused by Noah's Flood.

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So when we have the new seafloor that's coming up and it's going like a big conveyor belt, it's going to hit the landmasses and it's going to bind up tension and release.

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When that happens, it's causing a bidirectional tsunami. It's bringing water flow up onto the land continent and another one that goes out to sea.

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And it's happening over and over and over again. We know this happened because we can see the

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Farallon Plate using underground radar right now that's currently subducted underneath California.

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You can go see the Farallon Islands in San Francisco, and it's called the Farallon Plate. They've done underground scans and you can still see it subducted underneath North America.

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And this is why we still have subduction -related faults and earthquakes all over the globe.

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Over 90 % of the earthquakes we have today, it's because the seafloor is still hitting the landmass and it's still catching, binding, and releasing.

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But during the flood, they were happening much more quickly in cycles. Now everything's settled, so we only get occasional earthquakes from this subduction.

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This happened in Japan and it created a huge tsunami. It was a seafloor slip.

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So we have the seafloor that was stuck on the landmass in Japan and it slipped. It slipped by 79 feet and caused a tsunami that went out in two different directions, bringing water up onto land, and then it sent tsunamis out and across the ocean.

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Here's a simulation from NOAA. You can see how all that water was pushed out by the tsunami from Japan.

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This is a microscopic scale tsunami compared to what was happening during the flood. That was a 79 -foot seafloor slip, but during the flood, they would have been happening much more quickly.

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Okay, how are we doing so far? You staying with us? Okay. Good. Lots of information, but I want to make sure

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I get through it all. So let's talk about seashells on mountaintops. We did a survey recently of 250 people and asked them, of all the different creation talks that you've heard, what's the leading evidence for NOAA's flood?

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And by far, the resounding best evidence that this group says was seashells on mountaintops.

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There's no way that NOAA's flood couldn't have happened because we have seashells on mountaintops. So it's this tectonic activity

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I'm explaining about NOAA's flood that would have put these seashells up on top of mountains. So here's a short video that shows you that.

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The floodwaters have really risen high enough to cover all 29 ,000 -plus feet of Mount Everest?

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Well, secular and creation scientists agree that the floodwaters didn't rise high enough to cover the mountains. The mountains were smaller and more level and were uplifted by the collision of continental plates to the heights that they are now.

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Sedimentary layers containing marine creatures were also uplifted to the higher elevations. That's how come we can find fossils of sea creatures atop the mountains of the

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Himalayas. So here is the summit of Mount Everest, 29 ,000 feet elevation, and there's marine fossils up on the top of Mount Everest, 29 ,000 feet high.

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So the clams didn't get out and walk up 29 ,000 feet. That used to be a seafloor and it was catastrophically pushed up during the flood.

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But it's not just Mount Everest. These places are all over. They're in the Himalayan mountains.

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Here's some from the foothills of the Western Great Basin Desert. Here's some seashells on mountaintops that are in Argentina at 10 ,000 feet elevation.

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And here's right here in America in Kentucky. I could show slide after slide after slide where we have evidence of marine life on mountain tops all over the globe.

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Just an amazing, amazing proof. So but wait a minute, we also hear this, where did all the water come from and where did it go?

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Well, if you center Google Earth on the middle of the Pacific Ocean, here's what you see. Earth is about 71 % currently covered with water.

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And it's got enough water to recover the earth if you change the elevation of the continents. So that's where all the water went.

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It went back into the oceans. But during the flood, the water covered the continents because we have all the subduction going on.

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The water's much, much higher than after the seafloor, after the fountains of the Great Deep were shut at day 150, the

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Bible says. What happens? Well, the seafloor cools. And when it cools, those oceanic ridges start subsiding.

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When the oceanic ridges subside, the continents are pulled down along with them, creating sheet flow that comes back down off of the continents.

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Then after the sheet flow is done, you can see channelized cuts like Arches National Park. You can go all over the middle of America and see things like this.

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So where did the water come from? Well, in 2014, they discovered huge amounts of water under Earth's crust, about 400 miles underground, some pockets.

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It's even more and more surface up. But there's plenty of water underneath the earth that could have come up if it was pushed up by heat and magma to come up from the earth like that, but it was a lot of magma also that caused the fountains of the

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Great Deep to break open. Now let's talk a little bit about the sediments, and I think this is probably the most important, most crucial convincing evidence about the flood is talking about all the sediment layers.

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But think about this before I get into the sediments. When you go around Utah or Colorado or around California, different places, and you see sediment layers that are built up, a lot of them that you see that are in layers and levels stratified, they're stratified but built up like this, they have to be formed and caused underwater.

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As the water settles, the sediment layers are kind of laid out. So there's one that crosses all over America called the

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Sauk Megasequence. It covers much of North America and all the way up into Canada.

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This is called a Sloss, S -L -O -S -S, Megasequence.

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There are six Sloss Megasequences that are all over the globe. They're matching on every continents, and Dr.

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Tim Cleary from ICR, the Institute for Creation Research, has mapped these and transferred them over to where we think the flood happened and how it went down.

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The Sloss is the one at the very, very beginning, and it's filled with marine fossils, and that was followed by the

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Tippecanoe Sequence. These sequences that I'm showing you, the Sauk Megasequence is like 100 feet of mud and in some cases thicker, followed by the

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Tippecanoe and the Kaskaskia. Those first three packages or the first three layers were all marine layers.

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Then we have the Absaroka and the Zuni, which represents the peak of the flood.

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That's when the dinosaurs bought it, was during the Zuni Megasequence. And isn't it interesting, if we plot these out and look at the proportion of fossils and compare land creatures with marine creatures, the first three

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Megasequences are all marine creatures, which is exactly what we would expect during Noah's Flood.

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As the shallow seas were buried, as the tsunamis are coming up, the coastal regions, the shallow seas are getting buried, and then it goes up, up, up, up, up, and up, and it goes all the way to the land as the creatures are trying to get higher and higher and higher, then we start seeing all the land fossils show up.

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So these are the land creatures and all of these are marine creatures. We don't start seeing the mammals and the land creatures until higher in the flood sequences.

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So next I want to show you, again, I keep saying these are my favorites, but this really is one of my favorites.

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If I was going to do a debate and try to prove to 100 secular paleontologists, hey, why do you believe in Noah's Flood, I would simply say this, how do you bury 13 states worth of dead dinosaurs, 700 ,000 square miles in hundreds of feet of mud along with marine life?

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It's an undeniable evidence of Noah's Flood because what you're seeing on the screen here is called the

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Morrison Formation. It's a Jurassic formation that's literally stuffed with millions of dinosaurs and they're buried with marine life.

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So let's zoom in a little quicker just to get a little closer to give you an extent idea of what this looks like.

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So if we zoom in to Colorado to a place called the town of Morrison, let's take a look at what these strata looks like just to give you something by scale.

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So the Morrison Formation is here in red and on average it's about 300 feet thick.

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So remember, we have 13 states, the Morrison Formation covers 13 states, 700 ,000 square miles and it's 300 feet thick and it's filled with dead dinosaurs and marine life.

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Are we sounding like a flood yet? It's incredible, very, very, very clean evidence here.

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So it's about 300 feet thick. So let's give some perspective if we take a 747 airliner and nosedive it all the way down into the sediment, we can see the thickness of it.

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So we put the plane down there. So we've got a plane and it's down, that's 230 feet deep.

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But what about the Empire State Building? Let's put that in there too. So by scale, if you were to go into Morrison, Colorado, look at the

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Morrison Formation, 300 feet worth of mud, you can lose planes in there, you can lose the

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Empire State Building or a quarter of it down there. And of all those 300 feet of mud, it's filled with dead dinosaurs and marine life.

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Sounds to me like there was a thriving ecosystem of Noah's flood that was quickly buried and it was probably much thicker because we know that mud settles over time, was probably about 660 feet thick.

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We also have folded rock layers all over the world that were bent while they were still pliable because if you have this catastrophic rifting and the continents being pushed out by the new seafloor that's being created, we're gonna start crumpling the mountains like this animation here.

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We're gonna see these mountains that are getting pushed by the new seafloor that's coming up and it's gonna be buckling and folding the mountains.

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And we know they were folded while they were wet because you can't bend rocks after they've lithified.

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So all over the world, we have these folds. The one over here, this is called a recumbent fold.

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And that's amazing because it shows how the pressures and how catastrophic these things were.

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They're folding and buckling these stratified layers. And notice that they're in stratus.

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Those are tsunami layers there that were buckled and folded back all the way onto itself. And we see these things all over the world.

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This is in California. We see ones that make up entire mountain ranges. And this one here is amazing.

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These are trees down there, that's a whole pine tree, that's a pine tree. Look at the extent of these foldings that happen when it was all wet.

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Now, this has been a controversial thing and so some evolutionists did not let some creation researchers into the

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Grand Canyon who wanted to investigate this because the evolutionists say, well, we think the rocks were bent by heat, time, and pressure over millions of years.

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And the creationists are saying, no, the layers were laid down wet and while they were still wet, they were crumpled and bent and folded.

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So finally, we got permission, the answers that Genesis did. They sent a researcher out there and sure enough, they took samples from different parts of this fold here, from over here, the apex of the fold and all the way up, and they learned from a chemical level that they were in fact folded and bent while they were still wet and pliable.

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They looked at the chemical signature of these regions and determined it was folded while it was wet.

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It wasn't done by heat, time, and pressure. It was done catastrophically quickly. Amen to that, yes.

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So, and what's of course inside of all these rocks and strata? Well, we have oil and coal all over the world that was buried.

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We can see these things. Some of these coal seams are like 70 miles or 70 feet thick.

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Look at that. That's a huge coal seam here. There's a truck. We see lots and lots of coal here.

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Here's bulldozers pulling out this coal. That coal is from vegetation that was covered over by hundreds of feet of dirt during Noah's Flood.

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And these coal deposits are literally worldwide. And the same thing with oil, oil is also worldwide.

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Now let's talk about my real favorite part, which is the extent of the fossil record. So each one of these dots that you see on the screen represents not just one, not a couple, not a dozen, but hundreds of fossils.

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These are usually massive fossil graveyards. Every single one of these dots represents massive fossil beds.

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And we know that the Pangaea was once pushed together because the same creatures are found stretched apart across the continents.

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Some of them are found on all four different continents. They were once living together, but they were pushed apart.

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So here's a graphic that shows that. So if you take these two continents, you can see how they match perfectly together here with this notch going right in there.

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And if we look at these fossils and those fossils, they're brothers and sisters. They're cousins that are currently 2 ,000 miles apart that were once living together.

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The fountains of the great deep comes and breaches and pushes the continents apart. And they're now buried in the seams in the mud that was responsible for their death.

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So if we put the continents together here, we can see one big giant ecosystem. Then the fountains of the great deep break open and breach and push these two continents apart.

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And if we run fossil counts of each side of the continents, we see matching fossil, flora and fauna, all the way down.

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Same stuff. We were all once there living together. They weren't spread apart over millions of years.

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They were pushed apart catastrophically and quickly. So dinosaurs is really,

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I think, the best evidence for this. If we look at this Allosaurus, so keep your eyes on those little dots there.

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Each one of those dots is a massive burial where they found Allosaurus. Sometimes a whole family, sometimes just one.

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But if you keep your eyes on those dots, and we fly in the sauropods, look where the sauropods are buried.

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So here's the Allosaurus and the sauropods and the Stegosaurus. Now let's fly in all three.

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You see how they're all in the same regions? Where have we ever found that before, with the bears dying where the wolves are dying and the wolves dying where the coyotes are dying?

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Something hit these creatures so quick and buried them together. It was a species -wide extinction that buried these creatures in the same locations, hit them so fast they couldn't get out of dodge, and it buried them.

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And if you look at just the fossil beds in America, did you know that 97 % of the dinosaurs that we find are disarticulated?

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And an articulated skeleton is where it's put together, but only 3 % of the fossils that we find, the dinosaur fossils, are put together.

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Like you find a T -Rex and its head's connected to its neck, connected to the rest of its body. The rest of the fossil record is blenderized, like something really catastrophic hit it.

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So only 3 % of the fossils of dinosaurs are found complete. That's from this book here.

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And a lot of dinosaurs are found in what's called a death pose. Look at the consistency here with the necks being arched back.

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This happens by asphyxiation. When these dinosaurs are suffocating on mud and they're dying, their necks get pulled back.

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And some evolutionists have actually replicated this with chickens by burying live chickens and seeing what happens when they die, which creationists, of course, wouldn't do that, but it's been done before.

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And here's a huge T -Rex. That creature was suffocating and choking on mud while it died.

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It happened quickly and catastrophically. And we also find fossils like this. We find fish.

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This is in the Smithsonian. Here's a fish that just ate another fish. And it was fossilized so quickly that the fish is still inside of its stomach.

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That's rapid fossilization. Here's a fish that couldn't quite finish his meal before Noah's flood came and hit.

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But so we found all kinds of evidence like that. But one of my favorites that I found most convincing is dinosaur soft tissue.

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So take a look at this animation here. Well, it's a video. This is a Triceratops horn that evolutionists say is 65 million years old.

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But look what's happening under this microscope. This horn has been demineralized and now it's underneath a microscope and they're stretching it and pulling it.

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Do you think you can stretch and pull a 65 million -year -old rock? No. This is a bone and it still has keratin in it, it still has collagen in it.

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And this type of finding has been found all over the place. In fact, we're now up to 122 articles worldwide from secular peer -reviewed science journals that have established soft organic biomaterials that are found in dinosaur bones.

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So the evolutionists say, oh, they're 65 million years old, but the evolutionists also put out articles that say soft organic material has a decay rate.

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Things like this should decay. If you take a cow bone and throw it outside here and cover it with mud over hundreds of years, the bone mineral will stay there, but bones are made up of a matrix of hard mineral bone and collagen.

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Collagen is a soft pliable part of a bone, and then you've got bone mineral. The bone mineral will stay for a while, but the collagen will decay over time.

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In fact, it should decay mostly in about 100 ,000 years. But they're finding collagen in dinosaur bone in study after study after study.

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It's not just collagen, there's over 120 peer -reviewed journal articles that here they show all the different types of bio -organic materials.

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We have blood vessels, blood cells, unmineralized bones, keratin, fecs, histones, proteins, skin pigments.

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All of these things should be gone if these dinosaur bones are really 65 million years old, but they're not.

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They died out in Noah's flood just about 4 ,400 years ago. But get this, the last two things that they just found were cartilage.

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Dinosaur cartilage definitely can't be 65 million years old. Maybe I should have some dino cartilage put in the knee here.

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That would be great. Find a transplant. And then, of course, nerve cells.

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Imagine finding nerve cells. But that's what they found, unmineralized nerve cells from dinosaurs that are still intact.

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So when you step back and look at this, it is very, very evident to me that I think these dinosaurs provide a lot of good proof for a recent flood as they were quickly buried over just about 4 ,400 years ago, definitely not 65 million years ago.

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So this is my style. I like avalanching a whole lot of evidence, so hopefully it keeps your attention as I rapid -fire through a lot of these things.

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But I covered a lot, but I wanted you guys to take away, if we stopped on any one of these things that I gave you a big tapestry overview on, we could drill down for hours on these little rabbit holes and find out it just gets more and more true.

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You guys, I'm a curious researcher, and I love research and evidence. I've spent decades pressure -testing

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God's Word, and I can tell you unequivocally with as much certainty as I know how to suggest that God's Word is true all the way back from the beginning.

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So thank you very much. We'll end right there. And maybe if I could take any questions, that'd be great.

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If we have time for questions, yeah, that'd be great. If we have a... Do we have like a roving microphone that we could move around?

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I know some folks might have some questions, or you can stand up and holler it out. I mean, do we have time for questions?

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Is that all right? Okay, great. Okay, thanks. Usually it takes a while to get going, but if I don't have any questions, this

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Pastor Rick will start randomly calling on people, so yeah. Good. Do we have any questions tonight?

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Yes, I see one in the back. Thank you for all the information you gave to us tonight.

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Sure. There's a lot of talk today about global warming and about the fact that the glaciers are melting, which

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I've seen myself. But the fact that they think it's gonna raise the level of the oceans by 10 feet, you know, what is your take on that?

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Yeah, sure. Great question about climate change. So I can tell you what I know for certain, and then we could throw in some suggestion and maybe some opinion.

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But what we know for certain is that the earth is reeling from the flood. The flood was very catastrophic.

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It led to the ice age. It started about full peak about 100 years after the flood. There was the ice age that lasted for about 1 ,000 years, and now earth is recovering from that.

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So what I can tell you from certainly and biblically is that earth is changing and it's recovering from the flood, and it goes through seasonality.

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Even in the 1100s, if you look at the tree rings in California, there was a big huge heat wave that came through California about 900 years ago that you'd be so hot you could hardly live here.

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So there's lots of changes going on. But people differ on the extent to which we have influence on climate change or if it's just happening with earth as naturally happening.

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But the book of Genesis, God gives us this promise that he says, as long as earth exists, we'll always have seasons and harvest.

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So I just take that to heart and know that God's words promised us that as long as we're living here and earth is going to exist, we're going to have sea time and harvest and winter.

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And that's a promise that we have in God's word. So I think the debate comes in how much are we contributing to global warming and how much is it just happening naturally.

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But the way I view it is that it's far above my pay grade. I'm going to just choose to trust God and that he's going to keep the planet habitable because that's what his word has promised what he'll do.

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Thanks. Any other questions? I see one in the back and one maybe up here too.

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Yeah. Yeah. Back first? Sure. Thank you so much for coming.

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I've seen some things in the past online where people are talking about artifacts made, man -made artifacts found in these coal deposits, which are again, supposedly millions and billions of years old, which it would make sense with the flood that they got washed in there.

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Can you speak to that? Is that true? Have they been found? Do you have any examples that you can share? Sure. That's great.

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One of the things that I have looked into those are they're called uparts or out of place artifacts, and they do exist.

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But what happens with creationists sometimes is when you find one that's based on only somewhat documented providence, so yeah, we found this bell and it's in a coal seam.

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Sometimes people will flock to that and believe in the flood because of that. I'm a presuppositional apologist.

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God's Word has been so branded in my spirit as true and reliable and inerrant and inspired that that's really all

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I personally need at this point to have solid faith in the flood because God said so. But what happens with other evidences like that, like the evidence of dragons, we have dragon myths and legends that have gone on for hundreds of years, which in many cases are through the dinosaurs that lived on after the flood.

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We have the uparts. We have human footprints that are sometimes found with dinosaur footprints.

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All of those evidences for me are supplemental. They're encouraging. They're inspiring.

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They're very interesting, but sometimes they're found to be debunked and I just don't want to hang my faith on those things.

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But I think there are a lot of uparts that I've seen that are personally pretty interesting. They found bells inside of coal seams, and the coal miners are just like, look, we didn't plant it there and it's embedded inside of the coal.

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So there are all kinds of things that might have been from the past or before the flood, but just remember, the book of Genesis, God gives us a really good clue in there.

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He says, mankind, all the thoughts and intentions of his heart are evil from the beginning and so I will destroy them with the earth.

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God says, I'm going to use the earth as a tool for eradicating mankind. So he scrubbed humans from planet earth.

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So I think it would be pretty odd that we would find some pre -flood artifacts. Are they out there?

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It wouldn't surprise me. And there are some that I found that are pretty interesting. I talked about the plates that pushed things up.

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Yes. Is the earth larger in circumference than it originally was?

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I have seen some people pitch that theory and I know two people alive that could probably give that answer.

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Dr. John Baumgardner, I think he's done a lot of geophysics modeling and everything, but I would put that in the category of we'll never know.

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It's the same thing kind of with the asteroids. I think the asteroids were involved in Noah's flood, but it's really hard to determine which ones might have been during the flood or after the flood.

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But some people have theories based upon some well thought out geophysics that they would argue that earth actually expanded during the flood.

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And some people want to argue that it tilted during the flood. And I don't know if we'll ever know which one of those happened, and I don't have really an opinion on it.

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But good question. Let's see, a couple more. Yeah. Sure. My husband is watching on live stream and he wanted me to ask, how does radiocarbon dating fit into the picture of the evidence of all of this?

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So radiocarbon dating, in my opinion, proves Noah's flood for three reasons.

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We find radiocarbon dating or carbon -14 in dinosaurs. We find them in coal, and we find them in diamonds.

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So radiocarbon dating is, you can only use it for dating organic materials.

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You can only date it, they say, for going back about 60 ,000 years. So if earth is young, we should expect to find carbon -14 in dinosaurs, and we do in study after study.

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In diamonds, which are sealed and pervious from the outside, and yet we find carbon -14 in diamonds, and we find carbon -14 in every strata of the coal seams.

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So carbon -14 is a useful dating tool. It's actually on our side because it supports all of that information.

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I'm on a panel with worldwide experts that are radiocarbon scientists.

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These are the people that actually pull the handle on accelerator mass spectrometer machines to do radiocarbon dating, and none of us are afraid of the data that we're seeing.

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When you look at radiocarbon dating, it really comes down to this. In the 1980s, they started getting so many miscellaneous odd dates back from radiocarbon dating that the

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British Research Council said, we're going to put an end to this and find out how reliable it is. So they sent out items of known ages to 37 radiometric dating labs around the world, and only eight of them came back with moderately correct dates.

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All these...so eight of them got it in the range. The rest of the 38 labs got it wrong, got the dates wrong by hundreds and hundreds of years.

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So carbon -14 dating works good for a few thousand years back. We can certainly use it for relative dating, saying this thing came before that thing came before that thing.

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But when you date it used for absolute dates, that's when you have to start making a whole lot of assumptions that we can't go back and prove.

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And there are eight assumptions that you have to believe in that were steady when you go back in time for radiocarbon dating.

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Things like, you have to assume that there was no forest fires in the area, that's probably not a good assumption. Volcanic eruptions disrupt carbon -14 data.

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Dating when the atom bomb was going off in the 1950s, that doubled the amount of carbon -14 in our atmosphere.

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When they were producing mercantiles and China -like plates and everything in the 1890s, that spewed out a whole bunch of more carbon -14.

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Earth's magnetic pull to the moon or a solar flare. These are just some examples that if any of these things happen, your carbon -14 dates are going to go wacko.

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So some people will hold to it as a true science and they believe it all the way down to the last year. But if you go talk to seasoned gray -haired archaeologists, they've come to the point where they regard carbon -14 dating as only a thumbnail estimation.

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And the wider back, the further back you go in time, the wider and wider the standard error prediction for carbon -14 dating gets.

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So it's good for a couple thousand years, but when you try to date stuff beyond that, it gets really, really wide and divergent.

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So hopefully that answers his question. There were two more questions I saw. So when you're talking about bones and fossils and fish and dinosaurs, why does nobody ever talk about human bones?

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Great question. So we just put out a video on YouTube and it went rampant because that's probably the most frequently asked question that we get about Noah's Flood.

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It's got over 300 ,000 views on it and it really comes down to one factor. The reason we don't find...

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Well, a couple of factors. The reason we don't find humans buried with dinosaurs and humans buried with the flood fossil layers is, first of all, because of God's promise in Scripture that He promised to eradicate or wipe them out with the earth as a mechanism.

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And then the other thing to think about is because the inundation stages of the flood were 150 days and humans didn't live where the dinosaurs were living, because that'd be a bad idea for the most part, they had 150 days or weeks and months to travel to high ground.

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So they're up on high ground, they're looking at, oh my gosh, that whole marine layer just got hit with 10 tsunamis today.

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And the next day it was 12 tsunamis, let's get out of here, let's go up higher so that you can travel, you know, maybe 20 miles a day as a human.

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So you're going away and away and away all the way to what's called the shields, like the

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Canadian shields where we have a lot of like granite and everything. By the time the flood waters finally reached them at the zenith, they would drown and then they would float and bloat as their carcasses just go away.

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So I think that's one of the main reasons that we don't find a lot of human fossils. But some people would make the argument that we have found human fossils in dinosaur -bearing layers like limestone.

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There's some interesting things about Malachite, ma 'am. There's some limestone fossils that have been found in different places around the world.

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So that wouldn't surprise me, but I think if you look at the duration of the flood, there's good reasons for me to believe that we shouldn't find any humans.

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Plus there was a lot fewer humans living before the flood than there are today. Most estimates would be like hundreds of thousands or maybe a few million people.

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So good. All right. Thank you very much. I think we'll end up there and thank you very much,

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Pastor Rick. Yes. Thank you. That was marvelous. Just great.