Matt Slick Bible Study - 8/9/2017 - Mormonism Pt. 5

Opening Remarks and Prayer Before Continuing the Mormonism Study

We're on? We're on now? All right, we're on now. All right. So having just cleaned my glasses, I will now pray. We'll start on Mormonism. And so we'll pray. We're gonna go through some more of what the quotes.

We'll do some witnessing tips. These aren't gonna be stellar witnessing tips, but there's things that you can learn. And then we'll take a break and then we'll do Q and A as normal. So let's pray. All right, Lord Jesus, we ask that you'd bless us.

We ask that you would anoint the words, anoint this time, that you would just provide your spirit upon us, upon this time, this teaching. Lord, I ask that as Mormons, as they look at the video, as they consider the quotes, that you might condescend to use them, to bring them to a true and saving knowledge of who you are, that they would give up their works, righteousness, gospel, and that they would believe in a true and living God.

Lord, we just ask that you would bless it. We give all of this to you and we trust you. And we just ask this in your precious name, Jesus. Amen. All right. So we'll continue on paragraph 171 here. And so it says in the Book of Mormon, now we did interesting quotes from the Articles of Faith.

We've done interesting quotes from Joseph Smith, from Brigham Young. So here from the Book of Mormon, and this is what it says, and behold, you shall be born of Mary at Jerusalem, which is the land of our forefathers.

That's Alma 710. So the Book of Mormon said that Jesus will be born at Jerusalem. And of course we know from Micah 5 .2, Jesus was born in Bethlehem. And what they've done is they said, well, Jerusalem means the county, the larger region.

It's not what it means. It's never what it meant. It means Jerusalem. But this is just them trying to cover their tracks. Well, why is this significant? Well, the Book of Mormon is supposed to be the most correct book of any book on earth.

And a man can get closer to the precepts of God by following it than by any other book. History of the Church, volume six, page, no. Volume four, page 461. And so if it is so perfect and so great, then why has it got that mistake in it?

The Book of Mormon, Grace, and Works Righteousness

Now, here's something else. Now, a lot of times Mormons, they'll say, I'm bashing them. I go out and I look for them. I attack them. And they say, just leave me alone. We're not bothering you. Oh, really?

And I have to say, you started it. Look at this. This is 1 Nephi 14 .10. Behold, there are saved two churches only. The one is the church of the Lamb of God and the other is a church of the devil. So I ask them, which church am I in?

And they have to say, I'm in the church of the devil. Okay. So you're saying that what I believe in is from the devil, from Satan. This is what you say. This is what you guys teach in your churches. This is what you guys start with.

And you go out and say, there's an apostasy, which means everything I believe in is false. But don't tell me that we're the ones persecuting you. You're the ones persecuting us. You're the ones doing this.

And then 2 Nephi 2 .25, Adam fell that men might be, and men are that they might have joy. Wow. That's, you know, the celebration of sin. And of course, 2 Nephi 25 .23, for we know that it is by grace that we are saved after all we can do.

And of course that is pride. And it's not me just name calling. It's not me just trying to be mean. It's pride to say that you're saved by grace after all you can do. Now notice what it says. That is by grace, you're saved after everything you do.

Now Romans 11, Hebrews 11 .6, no Romans 11 .6, Romans 11 .6. If it's by works, it's no longer by grace. So grace is the unmerited favor. That's what grace is. But all the cults always mess up on grace.

Grace is getting what you don't deserve in a good way. And we get forgiveness. We get the fellowship of God. We get to enjoy his presence. That's by his grace. We get the forgiveness of our sins by grace.

Nothing we do earns it. Even though the Mormon church says we earn it. Nothing we do earns it. But notice what it says. You're saved by grace after all we can do. Well, I always like to ask the Mormons, have you done all you can do?

And of course they say, well, actually some say, yes, they have done all they can do. And, you know, it reminds me of the sinless perfectionists. You know, yes, I've done all I can do. I don't sin anymore.

I'm keeping the law. I've done, you know, it's the same thing. Yeah, I'm not going to see a Mormon who says yes to this and the sinless perfectionists, just put them in a room together. You know, you know, give them the verse.

You're saved by grace. You're saved after all you can do. You're doing all you can do, both of you. You're doing all you can do. And, you know, you're not doing all you can do. You know, it's pride. Now think about it.

You're saved before the infinite holy God after by his grace, after everything that you can do. I'm sorry, but that's just not the gospel of God. It's not the gospel of scripture. We could go through various verses in Galatians chapter two and starting at verse 16 through 21, talks about if, on the basis of, if, but 221 basically says that we don't nullify the, I have to remember this.

It's been a long time since I've quoted it. You don't nullify the word, the truth by the grace. Now, if righteousness comes by the law, then Christ died needlessly. That's Galatians 221. So if we are saved or forgiven based on anything we do, then why did Christ need to come and die for our sins?

Because it would be based on what you did. And that's the argument that Paul's giving there. All right. This is also a very good verse, Moroni 10, 32, which the interlight portion says, if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness and love God with all your mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you.

And notice the theme here, 2 Nephi 25, 23, Moroni 10, 32, the issue of relating works and grace, that grace is what basically in Mormonism makes up for the stuff you can't do. You try, you're sincere, and God knows your best.

He knows you're trying. Now, this unfortunately is taught in a lot of Christian churches. The same idea that God knows the sincerity of your heart, you're trying and he'll make up the difference. This is taught in churches today.

And it's a false gospel. It's a false doctrine. All right. I use this a lot with Mormons, 3 Nephi, excuse me, sorry, 3 Nephi, 1918. They did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God. And I do this when I talk about the true Jesus approach, which we're gonna get to in a little bit.

When we get through the quotes, I'm gonna give you some witnessing techniques and we'll come back to this verse. All right, so now what we're gonna do is go to the Doctrine and Covenants. Now, folks, just so you know, I could spend an hour, two hours, just going through quotes in the Book of Mormon.

There's a lot of stuff. And this isn't a super deep course. I could teach on Mormonism for six months every Wednesday and go in and really teach you how to do homework and really learn, but that's not what we're doing here.

So just a sufficiently deep study to get you to understand what's going on. So here's what the Doctrine and Covenants says. It's one of the scriptures of the Mormon church. Notice the underlined section here, D &C 130.

The only true and living church upon the face of the earth. Okay, so let's read the whole thing. And also those to whom these commandments were given might have power to lay the foundation of this church and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out of darkness, the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth.

So the Mormons are saying that their church is the only true church. Now, whenever I hear that from any group, I say, oh, another only true church. Because people are saying that they're the only true church.

The Roman Catholics, our church is the only true church. The Jehovah's Witnesses, ours is the only true restored organization of God on earth, et cetera. And whenever you hear a group say, they're the only true church, what they're saying is they're the only true earthly organization with authority that's vested in it.

And that salvation is somehow tied up to membership and association with that church. That's what you hear. That's what you should be hearing when you hear we're the only true church. All the stuff that goes along with it as well.

Hold on a second. Hey man, I'm teaching a video series right now on Mormonism. Are you there? Oh, it's on the Bluetooth. So you can watch online, all right? Okay, I'm gonna hang up and turn this off. It's on my bed.

All right, folks, sorry about that. I get paged to answer questions at different venues and stuff. All right, let's go on. This is something that's really interesting because the Mormons say, don't bash us, don't bash us.

But look what it says here, number 179. Call upon your enemies to meet in public and private. That's what it says. Wherefore, confound your enemies, call upon them to meet you both in public and in private.

And in as much as ye are faithful, their shame shall be made manifest. Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord. So they're commanded to do this. So I'll reference this sometimes with the Mormons.

You're commanded to talk to me. No, there's contention here. Well, Jude three says content for the faith. You're supposed to do this, so what's the deal? I'm not talking to you. Okay, thank you very much.

And so look at this, this is D &C 84, 21 through 22. And without the ordinances thereof and the authority of the priesthood, the power of godliness is not manifested to men in the flesh. For without this, no man can see the face of God, even the Father, and live.

So the natural question to ask is, how did Joseph Smith see God the Father when he didn't have the priesthood bestowed upon him at that time? Now, we call that a theological oops. Now, check this out, D &C 130 and 21.

There is a law irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world upon which all blessings are predicated. And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated.

Let's continue. The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's, the Son also, but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, D &C 130, verse 22. Then ye shall be gods because they have all power and the angels are subject unto them.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my law, ye cannot attain to this glory. So you have to keep the law, celestial law, is what it comes down to in order to become a god. Joseph Smith, and verily, verily, I say unto you, Joseph Smith, that whatsoever you seal on earth shall be sealed in heaven and whatsoever you bind on earth in my name and by my word, sayeth the Lord, it shall be eternally bound in the heavens.

It's giving quite a bit of authority to, wow. Quite a bit of authority to Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith, the prophet and the seer of the Lord has done more, saved Jesus only for the salvation of men in this world than any other man that ever lived it.

More than Paul the Apostle, more than Moses, more than Abraham, more than John, Peter, James. No, Joseph Smith has done more. See folks, when you abide in deception, you become comfortable with deception.

When you abide in a lie, you become comfortable with the bedfellows of lies. When you start elevating a man like this, who was involved in the occult, who boasted he did more than Jesus to keep a church together, history of the church, volume six, page 408, 409.

Who obviously stole many writings from the Bible and put them in the Book of Mormon. Who taught false doctrines in the Book of Mormon and the DNC. Who had lots of wives, at least 35, at least 35. Some of them quite young and women who were married to other men while they'd married Joseph Smith so that they could be sealed for time and eternity.

What does that mean? It means they would fool around, they would have sex. And so he would do these kinds of things. And so when Mormons, they give themselves over, what they're doing, they're giving themselves over to Mormonism and the spirit of Mormonism.

They're giving themselves over to the idea that Joseph Smith restored the gospel, which hasn't been lost. That he saw the Father, which the Bible says can't happen. It teaches works righteousness, which the Bible clearly condemns.

When Mormons do this, something happens to them, spiritually, emotionally, mentally. Spiritually, they are blinded. They cannot receive the truth. Emotionally, they become dedicated to their master, Joseph Smith, their master.

They'll say, Matt, you are so wrong. We don't serve Joseph Smith. Yes, you do. I talked about this with Mormons. I'll say, look, why do you believe God is an exalted man from another world? You say, well, because the Holy Spirit brought witness of that to me.

No, he didn't. Where'd you read that? Well, in Mormon writings, what Joseph Smith said, right? So you believe this based on what Joseph Smith said. And so earning your salvation, the forgiveness of sins by, where'd you get that?

From what Joseph Smith said. The three degrees of glory from what Joseph Smith said. That the gospel was, the true church was lost because Joseph Smith said it once. I'll go through a bunch of stuff and say, this is what Joseph Smith said.

You're believing what he said. You're following Joseph Smith. You know, praise to the man. That's the hymn they sing in their churches, praise to the man, and they exalt Joseph Smith. They're following Joseph Smith.

They're following what Joseph Smith said God said. They even follow what Joseph Smith said about the testimony of the spirit, because Joseph Smith said that would occur. Everything is about Joseph Smith, not Jesus.

And that's why they are so deceived. And so what we have here is, you know, a brief examination of Mormonism. What we're gonna do now is go into witnessing tips and I'll intro that a little bit, but we've gone through a lot of slides, over 120 slides so far here.

Going through and showing you and by watching the videos, I urge the Mormons to check everything I'm saying against scripture. Check the quotes and ask yourself if you're being good enough to keep yourself right with the infinitely holy God.

Now, I know people who say they do that in the Christian churches. You know, the guy I debated last night, Jesse Murrell, he says that he's able to not sin and that's what keeps you right with God. People say that, yeah, they say, if you lose your salvation, it's because you broke the law of God, you sinned.

Well, then the corollary is, you keep it by keeping the law, simple. No, faith is what saves you and true faith means you keep the law. Yeah, keeping the law. So when I ask people, I'll say, look, are you saved by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ alone?

People who can't answer yes to that probably aren't true Christians. There could be people who are ignorant and they just don't know. But the fact is, the true gospel is that Jesus Christ is God in flesh who died on the cross for our sins.

He bore our sins in his body on that cross. First Peter 2 .24, he was imputed with our sin. He bore it, sin's a legal debt. First John 3 .4, and you can look at Matthew 6 .12 and Luke 11 .4, Jesus equates sin with debt in those last two verses.

Paul says, Jesus canceled out the certificate of debt. Colossians 2 .14. Our sin is an offense against God and the only way our offense against God can be taken care of is by trust in God. Only God is able to keep the law perfectly, which is a requirement according to Deuteronomy 27 .26, which Paul quoted in Galatians 3 .10.

And only Jesus, who's God in flesh, is able to do exactly what is necessary always. So when I say that I am guaranteed going to heaven, I'm gonna be with God, I'm saved. It's not arrogance because I'm not depending in any way upon anything that I am saying or anything that I'm doing or any intention in my heart that would keep me saved in any way, shape, or form.

I am instead depending completely and totally in what Jesus has done, his keeping of the law, his sacrifice on the cross, and only what he has done. And that's why I can say I'm going to heaven because it doesn't depend on me, it depends on him and he's perfect.

That's the difference. It's not arrogance on my part. I can say it's humility on my part, see how humble I am? No, the idea of showing humility before God is it's not me, it's all you. And that's what the truth is.

And Mormons are not capable of keeping the law. They're not capable of doing this. And the reason they have this false gospel is because they have a false God. Whenever you have a false God, you have a false Christ.

Whenever you have a false Christ, you have a false gospel. They always go hand in hand, always. In Christian science, God is a divine consciousness that you get in tune with. Therefore, Christ is the perfect manifestation of the Christ consciousness.

Salvation is right thinking. In Job's witnesses, there is no trinity and Jesus is an angel who became a man. And so, because he's not God who kept the law, he's an angel who became a man and kept the law, he only did it in the court of them for 144 ,000 people.

The rest of you only get to go on paradise earth if you do enough kingdom work. And so salvation is based on works and that's what they say in their Watchtower Bible and track information that you must obey the law of God in order to be saved.

We have Roman Catholicism. Now, they have a true doctrine of God. This is what's interesting. They have a true doctrine of God, a true doctrine of Christ, but because they don't trust the word of God, then they've added to their salvation in their works.

And we've gone over that before here. I've talked about that as well. Groups routinely that have a false doctrine of God will end up having a false gospel and they're lost. And this is the case with Mormonism.

Now, Mormons, if you're listening, please understand, I'm not, I don't hate you. I was never wronged by a Mormon. One jerk Mormon once threatened me once, but whatever, there's jerks everywhere. You know, it's no big deal.

But, you know, the reason that I do this is because I read the Bible and Mormonism does not agree with scripture and therefore it's not true. And if you die believing in Mormonism, you're gonna go to eternal damnation.

That's just the way it is. I don't care about your feelings. I don't care about your testimony. I know you put your feelings, your testimony above the word of God and that's your downfall. The word of God is above your feelings.

And I don't care what you say. I have a testimony and I can bear testimony. I can bear stronger testimony. My testimony does not agree with your testimony. And so what? The truth is found in the word of God.

What did Satan do with Eve in the garden in Genesis chapter three, verses one through six? Did God say? Down in God's word. She altered the word of God. Satan then contradicted the word of God. And then she went and went after her testimony.

Because what she did was it felt good. She sensed in her spirit, in her mind, in her whatever, that this is a good thing. And so she ate of the fruit. She went with her feelings and sin entered. She didn't trust God's word.

And that's what Mormons are doing all the time. They're trusting their feelings that they say is from God, but they don't know. Just because you feel it doesn't mean it's true. And so because of it, they are entrapped in a lie.

Believe God came from another planet. He has a goddess wife and they have sex and have them make spirit babies. And that you can become a God of your own planet too, potentially. So technically Mormons are worshiping an alien because an alien is a life form from another planet.

So an alien, that's where it is, an alien from another world, came to this planet with his mate. And so the Mormons worship this man who could have been a sinner on another planet, came to this world and they worship him as their God.

They're worshiping the creature instead of the creator because the creature is something that is made by God. That's what a creature is. In Romans chapter one, verses 18 to 31, God condemns people who worship creatures.

And God is the only supreme being who never was, excuse me, who never was born and who has always been, Psalm 90 verse two, from everlasting to everlasting, you are God. He was never a man on another planet.

And there was never a time when he was a sinner. Never a time he did anything wrong. He's always been God. But in Mormonism, the God that they teach is an exalted man from another world who could have been a sinner, who has a body, flesh and bones, genitalia, fools around with his wife, makes spirit babies that don't have a human bodies.

And if you pay a 10 tithe at your income of the church, cash, and you go to the temple ceremony, you have the potential of becoming a God of your own planet. This is entirely unbiblical. And you're believing in a false gospel.

And if you don't repent of it, you're gonna die. You go to hell for eternity. There's no hope. You better examine this stuff. And don't trust your feelings because feelings are deceitful. Bible says in Jeremiah 17, nine, the heart is desperately wicked, deceitful.

No man can trust it. Don't trust your heart. Trust the word of God. That's what I'm gonna say. All right, at this point, what I'm gonna do is just get into some witnessing tips. And, you know, there's a lot that could be said.

I could do a few weeks on these. I'm not going to, just finish up tonight. We'll be done with the Mormonism thing. I'll give you some things that I've used sometimes or just some basic stuff. And it's not stellar.

Folks, if you're gonna witness to Mormons, don't think these things. Wow, this is the slick approach. It should work. It's not like that. I'm gonna give you some things that you can use and use them prayerfully with wisdom and gently, of course.

Using Context to Answer Mormon Prooftexts

Context is king. Always examine the context of any verse that a Mormon might quote to you out of the Bible. You'll find it when examining context. Usually the Mormon has misapplied the verse. Here are some examples, James 1, 5.

But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God who gives to all generously and without reproach and it'll be given to you or to him. Mormons routinely misuse this verse to justify praying about the Book of Mormon.

Is there anything in the verse that says pray about any book or pray about truth? It doesn't say that. It says if you lack wisdom, what's wisdom? The proper use of knowledge. Where do you get knowledge?

The Bible. But the context is speaking to the 12 tribes of Israel that are scattered abroad. Just read what it says in the context. In other words, James is addressing those who are already followers of the true and living God.

They're not praying to see about the truth of some book in the future. They're talking, he's talking to the believers already. So it can't be praying about things to see if they're true. Not what's going on here.

Nothing in here says pray about something to find out if it's true. It's not what it is. Wisdom is not that. It's not praying about something to see something if it's true. Wisdom is something that occurs in you.

Wisdom is something that you do. Means you have a right ability to make choices. It doesn't mean it's revelatory information that comes about some book. All right, Matthew 5, 48. Therefore, you are to be perfect because your Heavenly Father is perfect.

And they use this to use the idea, support the idea that you can become gods. But when you look at the context, starting at verse 43, the context is God lets the sun shine in the good and the bad. He loves both.

The context is about loving everybody equally. Therefore, be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect. Now there's lots of stuff we could go to, but this is just to show you just these things. Just read the context.

Just read what it is. So if you're talking to a Mormon, they say, well, this is verse such and such in the Bible. Oh, great. Can I check that out? Where does it say that? Let's read the context. Just stop and read through it.

And I'll tell you, two things usually happen. One, they misapply the verse. And two, they stop quoting scripture. Because after one or two, maybe three of these, when you keep saying, well, what's it say?

And they find out it doesn't say that, they stop quoting scripture. They don't want to go to the Bible anymore and be proven wrong. All right. Here's another thing. In Mormonism, the law. We've already gone through this just a little bit ago, but I'm gonna go through it again because it's important.

That through the atonement and by obedience to the principles of the gospel, mankind might be saved. Doctrine and Covenants 138 verse four. Obedience to the principles of the gospel. Oh, wow, I just got a typo in there.

Sorry. What you do is you apply their own law to them. Ask them if they're being good enough according to what their scriptures teach. Just ask them, you being good enough? What are they gonna say? Yeah, I'm being good enough.

Well, I guess pride is okay with you. Is that, is pride inside the realm of good? No. Okay. So you're not being good enough? Okay. And, you know, as we've already gone over just a little bit ago, you know, 2 Nephi 25, 23, you're saved by grace through faith after all you can do.

I like to ask them, you know, are you, you really, you know, doing all you can do? And they'll say, well, yeah. And I'm gonna hammer them on this issue of the pride, but sometimes they'll say, well, I'm trying.

You say, okay, you're trying. So you're not doing all you can do. You're not doing all you can do, are you? Well, yes, I am. Okay, let's go over this again. So you're not doing all you can do because if you were doing all you can do, you wouldn't have to try anymore because it meant you'd have accomplished it.

If you failed with something, you didn't do what you could have done. You're not doing all you can do. See, they're carrying the law. Get up on their back and jump. Let the weight of the law break them.

And of course, we already went to Moroni 10, 32 earlier, the same issue. You say, you know, if you deny yourself of all ungodliness, then is God's grace sufficient for you? Have you denied yourself of all ungodliness?

I've had Mormons say, yes, I have. Then I just say, you ever repent? Yes. Then you haven't denied yourself of all ungodliness? Yes, I have. Do you ever repent of anything? Yes. Okay, let's go over this again.

If you denied yourself of all ungodliness, there's nothing to repent of because you denied it. And I've had some of them say, no, the intention of denial. Doesn't say intention. And then that's what happens.

People modify the text to make it suit what they want. And this is difficult for them. It is, because they know they can't do it. So, you know, ask the Mormon if he's done all he can do, just like you said, and Moroni 10, 32, we already talked about that.

And then go to D &C 82, 7. I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge. Go your ways and sin no more. But until, excuse me, but until that soul that sinneth shall the former sins return, sayeth the Lord your God.

So if you are perfect and you keep the law and you deny yourself of all ungodliness your whole life, and you sin once, any sin you've committed comes back on you then. I ask him, how's that working for you?

How are you doing with that? How is that perfection requirement with you? Are you really good enough? Is your heart really good enough? I've done this with Mormon missionaries quite a bit. Say, when you guys go home, I certainly hope you don't get killed on the way home by a drunk driver, because then you go to hell.

I don't want that for you. So, but when you're in the darkness of your room and you're thinking about things and you are, you know, you're just thinking about this jerk that you're talking to out here, you know, today, ask yourself, are you really doing everything you can do?

Are you really good enough? Because the answer ultimately has to be no. So let me give you the true gospel. Jesus did everything. And that's what I'll do. I use that as a means to get into what the true gospel is.

Jesus did everything that's necessary. You don't have to do it. Oh, is it okay to sin? I didn't say that. It's just that we can't keep that law. Jesus did, we're trusting in him, not ourselves. And that's essentially what it is.

People will not admit that what they're doing, whether it's sinless perfectionism, where it's keeping the law, deny yourself of all ungodliness is they're depending on their own ability to be right with God.

And this is a huge failure, particularly in the cults. All right. So this is real basic. You guys have heard me go over things like this. This is stuff that you just have to get in your head, just memorize a few verses, the locations, addresses.

Don't have to have every word memorized. You know, D &C 82 .7, your form of sins will come back to you if you sin again. I'm just paraphrasing it. You can say that to them. That's what it says when you're talking to them.

Let's look, that's all you gotta do. And then you can witness to them. So this is one thing. Now, something else you can do is use the Book of Mormon. And I use the Book of Mormon with them. And I used to have, when I did a lot of encounters with Mormons in Southern California, I used to have a Book of Mormon.

And what I would do, pretend this is my book, you know, you read it this way. So what I would do is I turn it this way. And so when I would look at it, I had all the tabs. I made these little tabs that says one God, things like that.

You know, one God, a Trinity is one God, God is unchanging, God is spirit, eternal hell and polygamy condemned. Because these are the things I have, I'm gonna show you the chart. And this is the things that would have my Book of Mormon.

And you could, oh, you got one? Hey, you got one like that, good. Okay, hold on a sec. That's hers? Yes. She just knew it the right way though, but that's okay. See, it's close. But see, this is what she's got.

So you can go back here to one God, open it up, and there it is, and that works. Me, I'm more anal. And so I would have all the one God things in a line. Anything like that. What's that? Anything that's that way.

Anything like that, okay. So it doesn't matter, but this works, okay. And so I've got honey, bee, error, sins, return, flesh and bones, one God, koala. So she has three things, yeah. And so what I would do with my Book of Mormon is I would just walk up to the Mormon missionaries.

Literally, I'd go, how's it going? They wouldn't say anything. I'd hand them my Book of Mormon with the stuff in it, and they'd start reading. I'd sit there for three, four, five minutes. I wouldn't say a word, and they're gone.

And they're just going through it. I'm serious, it was very effective. I wouldn't say a thing. They'd be like, did you do this? And they'd just get a partner, and the guy would go. And they'd be, you know, what about this over here?

And they would go through it. I would just, I'd just show it to them. Just pull like that, so they could read the tabs, and go, anybody, prompt them, here, take a look. Book of Mormon. And man, I'm telling you, they didn't know what to do with it after that.

It's a great witnessing tool. So, here we have, you know, this is the stuff that's there. Okay? So, now on the left, that's the Book of Mormon stuff, and you can go right in there. But you can take, oh, that doesn't work?

Okay. It's blurry. It's blurry? Oh, because I walk in front and alter the focus. Next time, I'll go behind the screen. All right, oh, this dude, get close to it, then walk backwards. Oh, you had your black, technical problem.

Okay, did we get it? We got it. This is high tech. All right, so I would suggest, let me mess it up again. I would suggest that you take this, do the tabs in the Book of Mormon, like that. And then to write this, we actually put the whole thing in the back.