Abolition, Rick Warren, Bill Craig, PWC, Honorius

Off remotely here and At five o 'clock. I hit the music and nothing happened. So I don't know what to say. Probably means when we go out it won't work either but I it worked it worked 45 seconds ago and then this time gone nothing happened.

So I don't did that play. What cuz I hit I hit it. Anyway, not the way to start things, but sorry, thanks for being with us today. We're doing stuff late today and Rich isn't here. That's why stuff's being done remotely.

No, well, I hit play I Don't know what happened it. Literally, it worked 45 seconds ago. But there you go, so I'm not even about to be the outro that's not gonna work. We'll say hasta la vista and and we'll go from there.

I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mess with that. Okay, so Can't can't change things 60 seconds beforehand in my mind just goes me gone. I have no idea what's going on right now. I Saw that today The vote was gonna be taking place in North North Dakota on A bill of equal protection now, let me for people who aren't up to speed on all this stuff.

The pro-life industry that has existed for decades Wants to limit abortion, but not abolish abortion and The pro-life industry does not want to bring the gospel as The solution for abortion and wants to give women carte blanche as Far as having no guilt for the murder of their own children.

So there's no you can't bring the gospel to bear and Talk about forgiveness when there's nothing to be forgiven for if women are just Victims then there's nothing to be forgiven for so you don't need to have the gospel.

You don't get that doesn't need to be part of it. And this is changing. You know when the abolition movement began, you know. It sort of went wonky and went out into you know Attacking churches and I remember I was at a church in Texas and they're outside with signs and stuff like this and yeah, it was it got a little messy, but Especially through.

The.

Extensive labors of Jeff Durbin a lot of that has has changed and now abolitionism is Very much front and center in In pushing forward the narrative in regards to abortion. So End abortion now, which is a ministry of apology at church Is working with all sorts of people across the country.

Jeff is flying around all over the place as best he can he still has to. You know, he's investing a tremendous amount of time in the twins they adopted special needs and so on so forth, but he's definitely burning the candle at both ends and So what happened in North Dakota today is something extremely unusual it not only came out of committee, but it came to a floor vote and You need to understand that for many many years the the pro-life industry Has killed these Before they ever got to the floor.

We had the votes for a equal protection bill in Louisiana it was killed by the pro-life groups and it was killed by the ERLC, which was one of the many groups that signed on to to try to kill this and So what I wanted to show you it came up for a vote today it lost But as Jeff has posted a video.

He's very excited Because we're making progress and if you you understand a lot of bad stuff that has happened in our country Started off with legislators introducing bad stuff and it just got blown out of the water and then they Reintroduce the next year the next year next year by the fifth year it passes That's just sadly how things work and how things are done.

And that's what's going on right now so What's interesting is I have a have the audio here I actually have the video, but it's a teeny tiny little video So I'm not gonna blow it up. I have a video of one of the Pro-life folks in The senator house.

I think is Senate. I'm not sure which in North Dakota and She is repeating the same material from the letter that the ERLC signed To kill the bill in Louisiana. So here's Here's someone speaking against The equal protection bill in in North Dakota.

I hope I can hear this. I don't know if I will.

I'd like you to keep in mind that the top four pro-life advocacy aid Organizations in North Dakota did not support House bill 1373 and yet they already invest significant amount of time and resources into battling the abomination of abortion in 2022.

Pro-life leaders around the country signed an open letter to state lawmakers and it says. We state unequivocally that we do not support any measure seeking to criminalize or Punish women and we stand firmly opposed to include such penalties in legislation.

Okay, so that is the letter that Mike Johnson the current Speaker of the House Used along with others to kill the Louisiana bill in 2022. Now it's being used again in 2025 in North Dakota. The damage just keeps rolling on and so first of all You know tremendous thanks to everyone who keeps working and fighting for equal protection.

This is the only way to deal with this. It gives opportunity for you know More and more people for Jeff to get out there and to be able to speak and to you know Jeff would take on any pro-life.

Person.

Any of the people are representing those groups in North Dakota? He'd take on Mike Johnson he'd take on any of them in moderated public debate. They won't do it. They will not do it. He'd love to. But they won't do it because they know they can't.

They know that they would just get Run over because the only way to promote the perspective. They're they're they're presenting is to disconnect this issue from the gospel itself and Say that women are just merely victims and You know, we've watched so many of these videos of these women You know talking about their 24 abortions and how they just love it and it's just great and all the rest of stuff it.

And You can't bring the power of the gospel and forgiveness to bear if there's nothing to forgive and The pro-life industry is not based on the gospel and it's interesting, you know, I Don't think Jeff was involved this stuff.

No, I couldn't couldn't have been it. Well, they might have been I don't know in 89 When I represented as spokesperson Operation rescue and was arrested outside Finkel's Abortion mill in Phoenix one of the best things ever done in life he eventually was himself was arrested for sexually abusing his his Patients and convicted and shot up in a prison where he belonged.

I think he died in prison as I recall.

Anyway, I.

Ended up having to not work with Operation rescue anymore because the fact That I had just written two books on Roman Catholicism. And You we've all got to stay we can't be talking about stuff like that.

Can't can't talk about the gospel. No, no, no keep that out of there and The the regular Testimony of our folks when we go outside abortion clinics is we're the ones crying out. We're the ones preaching.

We're the ones bringing the gospel to there. The Roman Catholics are staying over there fingering their rosaries. They're not they're not calling out they're not talking about forgiveness or not. No, there's just a massive difference.

And one's bringing the gospel of air. The others bring Mary to bear which Does absolutely positively nothing. It would be right now that a number of my signal chats are all going crazy. So you're hearing bing bing bing on my phone on my watch.

Imagine there probably is a way to turn that off. But there's still a lot of things about this watch. I haven't figured out. So anyway. So Jeff is very happy about that. There are many other bills going in praise God for the senators and legislators and Representatives who are willing to put on the line to put these bills in.

Very often they they lose Support in other areas. Again because you're you're fighting the system. You're not just it's not just the the pro aborts. It's not just a Pete. That's not just a culture of death.

You're fighting you're also fighting.

The.

Significantly Corrupted pro-life folks who don't understand the only way to end this is application of the gospel, so. Many thanks to all of all the people who you know people. North North Dakota. Every other state where I think I forget how many like 18 bills or something like that right now and just flying around meeting with people and and Encouraging them to you know, stay in the fight and.

So pray for him and for end abortion now and what's going on there? Okay, then we have. Let's go to the from the sublime to the absolutely absurd. No, that's interesting. Who's. Yeah, there you go. There's Michelle Leslie, hi Michelle talking about Brent Leatherwood and Speaker Johnson.

All of them against equal protection that needs to be kept in mind. But Today, was it this morning that I first saw it? It may have been man a lot of stuff gets posted on on X in a short period of time.

But I didn't think I'd have to worry about that. I'd be able to just scroll back to this but there it is. I knew it there somewhere. This morning I get up and Here is Rick Warren. Now, you know ever since Warren retired from Saddleback and put a man and a woman in charge there.

Haven't heard a lot about him other than when the Southern Mass Convention gets together, you know, he pulled that stunt last year. You know, he's talking about Training a million pastors and stuff like this.

You're just like Your definition of training is strained a little bit, but okay. He had posted a tweet. So what's it again? It's still a tweet. It's it's an X post. What's an that's this doesn't make any sense.

Anyway, He quotes John chapter 19 verse 18 they crucified Jesus with two others one on each side and Jesus in the middle and quote. Then the guys on both sides were thieves. Okay, if You're looking for the hashtag real Jesus.

Not a caricature disfigured by partisan motivations. You'll find him in the middle not on either side. And then he included a picture of the crucifixion. Well, obviously a artist rendering of the crucifixion.

Now.

He has gotten ratioed and if you know what that means, that means. The vast majority of the responses have been. Are you nuts? You've got to be kidding me. As well he should be. And you know, I can just imagine, you know, how do you apply this.

Do you apply this to abortion? Evidently the RLC does. Do you apply this to Homosexuality. Gay mirage. All the rest of this kind of stuff. Do you do that. By the way, I'm just sitting here thinking a Couple years ago, I would have had to have been watching my language.

Because the censorship and It sort of looks like for a while anyways, we might be able to Not be thinking as much about that as we once did. Thankful for that, but we'll. The only way to Believe that's going to happen long term is if there is fundamental change in the society and I don't see that happening.

Vibe. Vibe and repentance are two different words right now. I see a lot of Christians that don't want to think about that. We're enjoying the vibe we're enjoying the Seeing seeing the people who've been haranguing us for so long.

Getting shut up and their massive money. Spigots spigots turned off. Yeah, that's that's great that's cool that's wonderful but we'll see how long it lasts anyways. What an astonishing thing. You know if you want to make an argument that Christians should in some way.

You.

Don't want Jesus as a caricature. Caricature disfigured by partisan motivations. Well, you know what who can argue with that? But you don't derive that from the fact that Jesus's cross was between the other two.

What if Jesus's cross was only on one side that was up to the Roman soldiers? He didn't have to be in the middle. There's nothing prophetic that the the writers don't make any kind of you know Big thing about Jesus being in the middle rather than the right side or left side or anything else.

Well, you know, I. Where does it even come from and if you want to talk about caricatures. Every week we are regaled with the rainbow stolled priestesses of the United Methodist Church and PC USA and and ELCA and Episcopalian Church and the United Church of Christ and and You know, there are ultra leftist liberal Baptist groups, too there are and We listen to them blathering on and just distorting scripture right left and center.

And there there's your caricature disfigured by partisan motivations. And hey I ain't no big fan either.

Of.

The big Southern Baptist Church that has worship service with American flags hanging from the rafters and patriotic music. And and just 99 politics and 1 Jesus. I'm that's. I think it's the way things supposed to be either.

No, no question about it. So, yeah, you can have a caricature disfigured by partisan motivations, but John 1918 has nothing to do with it and You know, I remember when the purpose-driven life came out a lot of us were going.

This is this is the very definition of fluff I mean. It's just there's no substance to it. Why is this selling like hotcakes? Because people like fluff because you can do it you you can make fluff say whatever you want fluff to say.

Basically is what that's all about.

So.

Yeah, you'll find him in the middle. Not on that. You know, that's that's the kind of just so. Surface level. Sermon illustration. Ish eisegesis.

Mmm.

Says a lot says a lot it really really really does. So anyway there's there's that now, uh I am going to. I Shouldn't have done this. I'm a terrible person, but I'm the reason we're doing the program so late is I've got to go pick up my wife at the airport and she gets in around.

And.

720 730, but she's in the back of the plane and she may check bags and and. So, you know eight ish is probably when I'll 745 date.

And.

I just didn't want to drive all the way home then drive all the way back out there because the office is on the way to the airport so Why double back and do all the rest that fun stuff? So we're doing it later today.

Hence the lack of music but anyway. So I had put her flight number into I still have one. One program on my phone that will track a flight. I Delete all the rest because I don't fly anymore. So why should I be updating it all the time wasting bandwidth and man, I used to use those programs all the time and it's like now I'm using programs that We just just had a new Solar controller installed on the RV and a new inverter installed in the RV.

They've got Bluetooth programs I'm going to need to be working with starting Sunday Monday. To make sure I'm able to monitor that kind of stuff. So it's not that the programs have disappeared. It's very different kinds of programs now.

Which is I don't want to have to be having programs about the airplane. But I happen to look at the flight and it's a Boeing 737 max and I'm like I Seem to remember something about Boeing 737 maxes. So I sent a little note to our family chat and I said, let's all pray for Nani.

Just I need all the prayers I can get. So she's gonna be be flying flying home here. Lord. Will him and I'll be picking her up. She was Spent a week in California with her dad and her sister her dad 84th Birthday and the guy's still working.

At a hardware store. That's hard work at 84. He was a lot like my dad, you know. My dad worked until he couldn't work anymore and then he kept trying to work from a easy chair. So yeah. That's just how people were.

It's that's that generation, you know. My my worth is related to my work and I've got a lot of that in me, too. So People say when you're gonna retire and I'm like when I die basically, it's sort of how it works.

Um, so yeah. All right. Did some of you don't remember this so I'll have to give you just a little bit of background. What was it about 10 12 years ago, you know probably about that I ran across Bill Craig dr. William Lane Craig's use of Kerberos the three-headed dog from Greek mythology as an illustration the Trinity and I was like.

How why.

What's going on here. And I did a video about it and and you try to say this is really misleading and it's and.

Then.

You do some more reading and you find out that he openly says he's a neo Apollinarian so he doesn't hold to a will be considered a historically Orthodox Doctrine of Christ and It it just strikes me That people like N .T. Wright William Lane Craig, in fact, I just saw the fact I sent that out I'd have to pull it try to find it here and I'm not gonna take time to do it.

But I guess he's doing a Systematic Philosophical theology in multiple volumes. So That'll be intriguing. I'm sure these guys especially those two guys. My feeling is They think they are.

So.

Much smarter Than anyone else alive or anyone else who has almost almost ever lived That they don't mind just Coming up with their own stuff, even if they're the first person to ever come up with it. It's like Okay, and So I was reading through another friend's Feed on Facebook, which I rarely do but that's where this friend and I have relationship and he's the great guy so I was just seeing what he was posting and Let me see if I can zoom in on this and make it a little bit bigger.

I Just gotta get up and start. I need a Prescription for that far away. Um.

Here's a.

Guy wrote in a question. This was years ago. This is 2021. I hadn't seen it. I hadn't seen anybody quoting it. The guys Asking about the incarnation and resurrection and Jesus physical nature human nature and stuff like that.

And he's actually talking about Jesus as a zygote. Which isn't the central thing here, but let me let me read some of Most of Craig's response with respect to Jesus when he was still as I go to Mary's womb.

We want to affirm that he was fully omniscient. The reason is because he was fully divine the second person of Trinity now in human form. It's crucial. We understand according to Orthodox Christology.

This is strange. Why does he quote this here, but then ignore it when he's a neo-apollinarian? I don't know. Jesus is not a human person. There is only one person who is Jesus and that person is the Logos pre-existing eternal second person Trinity.

That's actually has a part of his apollinarianism in it to think that in addition to the divine person there is another human person. Jesus is to fall into the air of Nestorianism and So to the five divide the single person of Christ into two persons one human and one divine.

He's not. It doesn't get into this right here. This is not even the actual problem right here, but he's he's not in line with calcine on. And I think he's misrepresenting the story in ISM as well. But the the issue is one person with two natures.

And Craig is an apollinarian Neo-apollinarian, so he's not in line with calcine on and what comes afterwards either anyway, so. The church rejected Nestorianism affirming that in Christ incarnate state even as I go.

There is one person a divine person who has two natures one human one divine, but he doesn't believe he has a divine. It doesn't it does not have a human will. So he's not a full human person. Jesus had all the essential properties of God including omniscience obviously as a zygote and even later He was not consciously aware of all that he knew.

He needn't say we needn't say it the zygote had a subconscious. But that it was simply unconscious and that needn't affect the divine nature of person as to the second question We want to affirm that Jesus has a human nature even in the ascended state.

Agree.

The incarnation is not a temporary state of Jesus 30 odd years on earth. Rather his resurrection shows that he has permanently assumed a human nature. Agree. The strongest possible affirmation of the worth of human corporeality.

One could say that in his ascended state Jesus is spatially located somewhere. Perhaps in another space-time different than our own. Yeah, we normally get a lot of problems when we start speculating about stuff that we the Bible itself tells us our minds have never known and if.

If we can't imagine these things and we obviously can't apply language in a meaningful fashion. And you know, we just get it all lots of speculation. But like you I'm inclined to say that between his ascension and Bodily return Jesus while having a human nature does not have a body.

Now read that again. But like you I'm inclined to say that between his ascension and bodily return Jesus while having a human nature.

Does not have a body. How do you?

How do you get through first Corinthians 15 with that? Okay, the reason is because he has exited our space-time manifold. By way of analogy imagine a tuning fork placed inside a vacuum jar. If You were to pluck the fork it would vibrate but there would be no sound because there is no medium to conduct sound waves.

Were you to introduce air into the jar than the vibrations we manifested as sound. The vibrating fork remains. Intrinsically the same in both scenarios, but its manifestations are different depending on the medium.

Similarly Jesus's human nature is not now manifested as a physical body. Because since he's not in space-time There is no medium for the expression of his human nature in a three-dimensional form. What's gonna happen to us if we're united with him and we are resurrected in our glorious incorruptible bodies.

Are we gonna be in space-time or is only he isn't in space-time when Christ? This is where really you thought it was strange up to now when Christ re-enters our space-time manifold. Then voila. His physical body will again become manifest this will be in a literal sense a Reincarnation that's his term reincarnation.

But not a second assumption of a human nature since that remains constant throughout. So evidently all the emphasis on the physical reality of the resurrection is Only an emphasis that has relevance in a specific space-time manifold medium something thing.

So that.

Well.

What what happened to Jesus's body? That that's what I need to know. What what happened to Jesus's body. But if you can hear that little ding, it's it's I've told you. And rich goes crazy when I do this because he abandoned Apple a long time ago went back to Worshiping Bill Gates and.

So.

So you're hearing this ding ding ding, it's my Apple watch. But rich just asked a question, which he normally would ask through the window, but there's just an empty chair There right now the rich cam is there so we got to remember to that.

I need those cameras back. I need them on the road. I'm sure we'll you'll be working on that. But anyway, um, he just asked this deep theological question via signal. Does he need 1 .21 gigawatts to reenter?

You knew I'd read that if you sent it to you you knew that I I lack the self-control.

So not read that.

Yeah, so, um. Yeah, so when Christ re-enters our space-time manifold then voila His physical body will again become manifest. This will be in a literal sense a reincarnation but not a second assumption of human nature since that remains constant throughout so the human nature is disconnected from physical body I guess depending on.

What manifold you're in. Yeah, okay, hey, there you go, um, I don't even again. I'm not thousand-percent sure what to say about a lot of this stuff, but. There it is. Um. Next real quick here. Wow. It's already 530.

How'd that happen? Eric Kahn up in Ogden a few hours ago Posted something interesting. He said under the post-war consensus PwC Nationalism love for particular people in place blood and soil in other words is strictly forbidden.

They're Bolton. Got to be careful which language we use there. Yet since love for people in place Blood and soil is a natural instinct. It must find an outlet. Hmm, okay, I mean I could we could make an argument that scripture actually says we're pilgrims and we don't have a homeland and that we're looking for.

That homeland which will be in heaven in the presence of God. You could make that argument. I suppose um.

The.

So so it says yet since love for people in place is a natural instinct. It must find an outlet. Then this is the next sentence the only acceptable outlet is Love for the Israeli people and nation. There you go so.

And I'm just sitting here going. Um, okay. Obviously PwC is a wonderfully malleable term that you get to use it for every whatever you want. You know, I've been told that I'm sola PwC. It's still one of the dumbest things that's ever been said to me.

But and even if you use the Roman Catholic Reno's definition from the strong return of strong gods Y 'all know he's Roman Catholic, right? Okay, just you know wrote wrote a book and soul script. Just want to make sure that you understand sources here, you know sources are important.

But even then let let's say that the post-war consensus is Open borders anti-nationalism globalism.

I.

Was never raised that. That was certainly not what my people believed. That's certainly not anything I've ever promoted.

So.

It's rather vague along those lines. But here you have an application where you're literally trying to come up with a speculative explanation. That what the PwC and whoever is in charge, I wonder who came up with the PwC.

Oh. Those guys. Those guys are behind. Those guys want the only acceptable outlet for love for people in place to be for Israel and these and the Jews. That's wow, I didn't I didn't see that. Did you see that?

I never saw that. No, that's a amazing insight. I'll just let that Stand there for anybody who wants to do anything else with it. Okay. Um. All right, finally to the deep stuff now. I don't know What triggered it?

I made some comment. I make lots of comments. Roman Catholicism in this context what it was. Okay, what it was was Pope Francis's letter. I'm not sure if you heard about this. But yesterday Pope Francis sent a letter to American bishops.

Basically.

Indicating that from the view of the Holy See. What is happening here with the arrest of illegals. And I live in Arizona we've we've had illegals from the day I moved here in 1974. That The arresting of illegals is sinful it's it's not in accordance with Christian morality and So evidently from the Pope's perspective The laws we have about how people are supposed to come here.

And by the way There are laws as to who gets to go in the Vatican. There's a big old wall around the Vatican. It would be interesting if Governor Abbott from Texas would Charter a whole bunch of really long-distance Chinook helicopters to fly over to Rome and To just start dropping the illegals that have come across the border into Rome.

It'd be really interesting to see how the Vatican would handle that. Would they shoot the helicopters down. How many could they take is the real question, you know. You know, would they try? I don't know it's possible.

But anyway. So the Pope is basically telling the United States you cannot have laws That restrict people from just invading your country. Now we all know that historically.

The.

Leadership of their only Catholic Church has not Said this in the past.

Um.

Popes have led armies in defense of borders in the past. Now Francis probably would say that they were sinful to do so but there you go and so I made a comment About faith and morals the Bishop of Rome is supposed to be infallible when defining the faith and morals, right and.

So in response.

To.

To that and again, I'm just gonna be pointing out Francis is charting his own course. Francis doesn't care about what's come before him. Francis is making sure that what comes after him reflects him and not the people who came before him so there has been a fundamental disruption of any meaningful definition of Infallibility Consistency apostolic tradition, whatever else it might be whatever vague terms This is development hypothesis put on steroids in essence and So I just made a brief comment and evidently a bunch of people picked up on it and somebody posted a 24 year old Almost 24 year old Article that I had never seen before from Catholic answers called white is wrong by Stephen O 'Reilly and So there was some comment about there were some comments going back and forth about Stephen O 'Reilly's Insights credentials, whatever else it might be.

I don't know him. So if I did back then I've forgotten him I don't know if he's still around or what anyway, I Looked through the article again, and it was Discussing The condemnation of The Bishop of Rome Honorius By the Third Council of Constantinople 681 ish went over the through January so 681 and It's talking about how Bill Webster has talked about this and of course if you've read almost any of the history of Vatican one the development of papal infallibility.

The debates that took place the formation of the old Catholic Church where people are like now we can't we can't go there. It's just too plainly obvious that This isn't what? was intended historically and You know Newman's just taking us too far the development hypothesis that Newman comes up with It just doesn't work and so These things were debated at Vatican one.

And of course people go. Well, it was debated and they lost. Yeah, look almost every single one of these councils, especially in the modern period Are little more than rubber stamp parties for the Pope I mean aside from something like Council of Constance Which had to recover the papacy because it split into three sections and each one was busily anathematizing the other and and the you know, eventually they had to fix all that kind of stuff, but It's not like People come into this thing without a position and they're just sitting there listening to one side and then they listen to the other side.

That's good too, you know this kind of thing no these are political events and The the Pope was going to get what the Pope wanted at Vatican one as far as his own infallible authority and so the debates were a formality.

And You know, like I said people like to say well, yeah, but they they lost in whose eyes. Well the majority. Well, you know the majority wants to keep their job. The majority wants to advance the majority wants to Maybe have a shot at becoming Pope in the future.

So. But anyway, so so the the story of honorius is Nothing new if you go back and it came up in both the debates I did and what was that like 2000? I think I think it was around the year 2000 I debated Tim Staples of Catholic answers, and then I debated Bob St. Janice not of Catholic answers.

On the subject of papal infallibility and you can go listen to them. The conclusion of both the same thing. This dogma has no meaning. Because you can never know when it is to be invoked you never know now it's interesting, you know in 2000.

Yeah, July November of 2000 John Paul the second was still on the throne. He had been on the throne for quite some time. There was stability and consistency and. So you could you know? Roman Catholic apologetics Could function within that stability.

This is long before Francis and so My fundamental argument at the end of both debates was. You have no way of knowing you cannot know while you were alive. Whether what the Pope who is alive in your day is saying is true or false you can only know decades after he's dead and decades after you're dead, so.

What's the use of it. In essence the Pope is infallible except when he's not. That's it. It's the most worthless Push a Roman Catholic apologist on this and that's what they're gonna end up saying. They don't want to say it, but that's what he end up saying.

So honorius is a awesome example. So the the parallel here is. That Francis has written a letter as the Bishop of Rome addressing a matter of morals. Remember Francis talked about.

The.

Capital punishment issue. Before he changed the universal Catholic catechism and then came out and said it's always been sinful to engage in capital punishment, he closed the door and And In doing so said I'm right all the posts before me were wrong.

All there is to it all the posts before me are wrong. Okay, that's interesting.

So.

Now we have a letter written by Francis To the bishops in America on a matter of morals Saying that it's immoral to have borders It's immoral to arrest people who illegally enter your country. Many years ago Pope on Aurea receives a letter from Sergius the patriarch of Constantinople.

Now you need to understand that by the 7th century The western half the Roman Empire has fallen it's disintegrated and As a result Rome Has gained a Tremendous amount of political power. Now Rome is heading for what's called the pornocracy.

Hasn't happened yet. It's gonna happen in the late 10th century middle 10th century that time period in there that hasn't gotten that bad yet on that level. It's coming but Constantinople is the hub. When you would think when you think about the first seven ecumenical councils, they're all around Constantinople.

Well, you got Ephesus. That's not too far away. But Nicaea is basically almost a suburb and you have Constantinople one two, and three. So and I see a one and two so they're all in the east.

And.

They're they're all very much influenced by whatever the political situation is in Constantinople, which is the head of the Byzantine Empire and so Sergius as the patriarch of Constantinople pretty important person very important and.

So.

Where'd that go I.

Love how things just you know, they're on they're on your screen and then then they go poof and they disappear. Where'd you go? Where'd you go? There you are. Thank you. So what happens. I just want to check something here.