Job 14:10ff

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Yesterday, I'm going to assume most people.
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Yeah, I mean, just to think about it, I was thinking as Dan was praying, you know, had a good week, and you have a week of work and week of health.
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And then you think about what's going on over there.
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And those people wake up in the morning, and the whole world is turned upside down.
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And just never know what a day is going to bring.
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Thankfully, we know who brings the day.
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So with that, let's go back to Job.
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And as I said, I'm gonna read the whole chapter just to give us an understanding.
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We kind of stopped around verse 10 or so.
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And so that's where we'll pick up in some comments.
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But let's just read the chapter.
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Remember now, this is Job.
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And he's, this is the last of the three chapters that we spoke about, in which he's responding to the friends or so called friends.
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And we'll see that as we get into the chapters following how Job really doesn't consider them friends.
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Matter of fact, he considers them not only worthless, but really, as those that have caused him more grief.
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And that's interesting, right? If you think about it, they came supposedly to bring comfort, and yet, they bring grief.
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And we ought to just think about that.
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I mean, from the understanding of are we really do we really want to comfort other people, or we just want to kind of aggravate people.
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But anyway, let's read chapter 14.
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So as I said to you last time, I'm sorry, verse 28 of chapter 13, because I think that really belongs to the chapter.
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So he says, man decays like a rotten thing.
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And like a garment that is worth eating.
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Man is born of woman is a few days and full of trouble.
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He comes forth like a flower and fades away.
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He flees like a shadow and does not continue.
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And do you open your eyes on such a one and bring me into judgment with yourself? Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? No one.
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Since his days are determined, the number of his month is with you.
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You have appointed his limits so that he cannot pass.
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Look away from him that he may rest till like a hired man he finishes his day.
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But there is hope for a tree if it is cut down that it will sprout again and that it's tend to shoots will not cease though its roots may grow old in the earth and it's stump may die in the ground.
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Yet at the scent of water, it will bud bring forth branches like a plant man dies and is laid away.
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Indeed, he breeds his last and where is he as water disappears from the sea and a river becomes parched and dries up.
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So man lies down and does not rise till the heavens are no more.
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They will not awake, nor will be roused from their sleep.
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Oh, that you would hide me in the grave that you would conceal me until your wrath is passed that you would appoint me a set time and remember me.
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If a man dies, shall he live again? All the days of my hard service, I will wait till my change comes.
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You will call and I will answer you.
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You shall desire the works of your hands.
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For now you number my steps.
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But do not watch over my sin.
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My transgression is sealed up in a bag and you cover my iniquity.
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But as the mountains falls and crumbles away and as a rock is moved from its place, as water wears away stone and as torrents wash away the soil of the earth.
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So you destroy the hope of man.
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You prevail forever against them and he passes on.
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You change his countenance and send him away.
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His sons come to honor and he does not know it.
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They are brought low and he does not perceive it, but his flesh will be in pain over it and his soul will mourn over it.
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Well, as I said, we considered a number of things last week and particularly how Job's worldview, and even though it's in an Old Testament setting, yet he understands as much as any of the others in his day that could be understood, especially the reality of God's sovereignty.
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And again, I said to you, and I think it's just a way of saying it, Calvin wasn't the first Calvinist.
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Calvinism or the teaching of that truth goes all the way back, really, if you think about it, right? We need to understand that.
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So again, we think we are, and we are in a great sense, theologically sound in many ways, particularly those in Reformed faith, but certainly from what you read in the opening of the chapter, Job sounds pretty Reformed as far as his understanding on the condition of man.
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So really, we kind of left off, and we'll pick it up in verse 10, where he says, if a man dies and is laid away, indeed he breeds his last and where is he? And as water disappears from the sea and the rivers become parched and dries up.
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And so again, there's this reality.
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Let me take a step back, I want to ask you a question.
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Does this chapter depress you? Anybody? Any takers? Do you find this chapter to be a downer, rather than an upper? I don't know, Ricky had some pills fall out of his pocket, you might have some downers in there, you might have some uppers in there, I'm not really sure.
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You can check with him.
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The overall theme of it seems to be a bit of a downer, but if you understand the plight of man or how things progress and how things work and the sovereignty of God, it's real, it's true.
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I mean, you know, it's the way things are, you know, and that's pretty simplistic.
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Well, I mean, I'm not sure we need to complicate it.
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I mean, in other words, and some people will look at it that way and they'll say, you know what? You seem so pessimistic.
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And so of course, people will say that usually you're either a pessimist or an optimist.
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So just for the sake of a few, how many pessimists in the room? Yeah, I was gonna say, let's be honest now, how many pessimists in the room? So all you optimists are left over? Is that the deal? Who is truly always an optimist? Anybody? Any takers? Yep, my wife certainly is.
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And she is.
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I have to work on not being a pessimistic person.
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I really do.
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I think there's good reason for that.
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I have to work on it.
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Yeah, when you get up and I really need to stay on my notes.
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But just think about it.
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Usually, when you first wake up in the morning, you're an optimist or pessimist? Optimist.
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When I first get up, right, absolutely.
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Right.
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And and God's mercy is a new every morning.
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Great is his faithfulness.
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How many of us don't buy nine, 10 o'clock start to see the optimism go downhill.
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And then before you know it, now you're a you're a full blown pessimist for the day.
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When you step out into the world, when you step out into the world, and you begin to see the activities.
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So I went fishing yesterday is the first time we had gone fishing in two months, when my son in law went down American Beach, caught a couple of fish had some fun, came home, I walk in the house and candy says to me, Did you know Israel's at war? I was like, Wow, come on, man.
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That's it.
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And all of a sudden, I and honestly, I felt myself kind of in and you think about it.
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And if you think about job situation, job has, he really has some issues going on in his life, right? And it's very hard for him to, if you will be optimistic.
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But when he says these things in chapter 14, he's really saying things that are true.
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We gauge optimism in whatever, being pessimistic, many times based on what externals, what's going on, right? What's what's how things are relating to us and the affairs of our life.
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That really is not the right way to do it.
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I don't believe that that's the right way to do it.
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Good morning, that we really need to be realistic and use that word, right? And I think job in these words, he's being realistic as far as the condition of man, we're in job chapter 14.
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And so when he says this, in verse 10, but a man dies in his laid away and indeed is breeds his last and where is he that that's not just a fatalistic quotation from him.
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But that's a reality check.
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I mean, it's real, it's really, it goes on.
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And, and how many people don't even understand that simple truth.
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And we looked at that last week, a little bit when we were talking about how we like flowers, and that's what he uses as an analogy, like flowers that that bloom and then what happens as the wind blows and his life goes on, by and by the flower fades, dies, and then by God's grace, what rises again, just like the reality is, one generation will praise you to another.
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That's what it says in the Psalms and that you and I are here by decree.
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We are here for a very specific purpose.
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But you and I are really on a pilgrimage.
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And of course, we all realize it.
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It's what it's a one way.
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Right? There's there's no turning back.
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And that so many people spend so much time trying to so I mean, simple, real simple, right? We're born.
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And then we, and that you and I have, God has appointed for us.
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I'll pose this question, do we not believe, believe that God has appointed every single point along the way? Yes or no? Okay.
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And that's why what we recall, we believe in the sovereignty of God, that the affairs of life under his direction, for his purpose, for his glory, and ultimately, it works out for our good.
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So as Job says this, many people look at that and say, well, that's that's just too too narrow.
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And how many people try to stop that flow? Right? That looks a little like a bonefish or something.
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But how many people are busy? And I said this to you last week, there's this one dude, I just read about him, he takes 111 vitamins a week.
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Because he's determined to live over 100.
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And he did things he eats and won't eat does and won't do.
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So no matter how much he I don't care if he takes 500 vitamins, guess what? He's gonna go to the way of all the earth.
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Right? When God wants him to.
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Yeah.
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And that's the other part, right? And the reality is, when we see this interrupted, as far as longevity, does it not upset us? In other words, if this is, in a sense, the natural cause, the costs of man, when we see things cut off, it really is disruptive, isn't it? And yet you, you know what it says in the scriptures, and I and I'm honored to say this last week, it says, even the stock in the heavens knows her appointed times.
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And the turtle dove and the swift and the swallow observed the time of their coming.
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But my people do not know the judgment of the Lord.
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So again, you and I have to look something of what job is saying here.
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And I don't find it particularly discomforting.
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I find it instructive.
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I find it a help because again, we all have to deal with these, these things that come upon us.
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So Job understands there's an end to everything.
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And as you think about it, he says, verse 11, as water disappears from the sea and the river becomes dry and parched becomes parched and dries up.
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So man lies down and he does not rise again.
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Now he, he says this in verse 12 to the heavens are no more.
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They will not awake nor be roused from their sleep.
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So when you read that and you read what job has been saying, there's something that's in Job that allows him not to be totally disquieted by this.
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Although his situation is terrible, right? Agree.
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I mean, which one of us want to be like Job? Any, any takers? Absolutely not.
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But there's something in Job and Job sees something that is, I don't know if this makes sense, but something similar to this in a sense that this is overriding understanding in the heart of Job that this, this is, and this is the, does that make sense at all? That you and I would understand it that way that, that we need to see this in the light of this.
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And he has that understanding, at least in my understanding he does.
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He says, so man lies down in verse 12 and does not rise till the heavens are no more.
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Does that not teach us that he thinks that there's something more than this? What would be the fatalistic output of this? If someone was a fatalist, what would they think would happen here? Nothing.
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Nothing or annihilation, right? That's the end.
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You just go in the ground and it's all over and someone else takes your place on the carousel, right? You and I, and Job has this understanding that there's something far beyond what the boundaries of God our man have.
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And so that's why he says what he says.
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He says, till the heavens are no more.
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Does Job have an understanding that there's going to be a new heavens and a new world? There's a thought.
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I'm not sure what Job knows, but I know this, Job believes there's something more, right? How many people believe there's something more? Many, many people believe there's something more, right? People that strap bombs to their bodies believe there's something more.
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I mean, I almost said something like, what are you going to do with all those virgins? You know how the Muslims believe they're going to be rewarded.
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Oh, what are you going to do, dude? I mean, that's...
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Nevertheless, people do have this understanding, right? The end is, in many people's minds, the end is not really the end.
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You and I, we have an expected hope, right? A very sure hope.
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And that this is far more glorious than that.
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And that you and I can be with Job, as he says, till the heavens are no more.
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And so he says, the man just lies down, he doesn't rise.
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Job is not a fatalist.
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He's a realist.
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He's sober-minded.
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He has this hope.
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Look in verse 13.
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And again, Job wants relief.
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And I don't think we should blame him for that.
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Don't you and I want relief? You get a toothache.
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What's the one thing you want? The toothache to go away.
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Right? You don't really care how, when, if you got to use orogel, get somebody with a pair of pliers, run to the dentist, I mean, take your head off, whatever it is.
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You just want it to disappear.
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Same thing with any other infirmity or illness.
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And so if you think about it, when Job says this, that you would hide me in the grave, he's not asking God to remove him from an understanding of that.
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He's asking him to give him some rest from here.
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Again, you and I, that is, that is a very, to me, uplifting thought that you and I could understand that in many ways, God is gracious.
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Have you ever heard when people say someone who's been sick for a long time and then they pass away? And many times people will say, you know what? They really, they really struggled.
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It's, it's, it's almost, it's almost a comfort to know they're not struggling anymore.
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I think we've all kind of either said that or thought that about certain situations and certain people.
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Well, certainly for the Christian, that is truly applicable, isn't it? Not, not so much for those apart from Christ, but for those who are in Christ, that, that is a remarkable hope.
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And then he says this in verse 14, if a man dies, shall he live again? All the days of my hard service, I will wait till my change comes.
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So again, a couple of things.
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He realizes there's coming a change.
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He realizes that this part of it is hard labor.
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It's been highlighted and it's been expanded in his mind because of his life.
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And again, not too many of us worry about doctors and dentists when we feel good and we don't have issues.
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It's when the wind blows against us that we think about the wind.
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When the wind's at our back, you can truly enjoy it.
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I'm not used to fly out West and you know, sometimes you can get out West.
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Um, the trade winds blow what this way, right? They blow back one way or the other.
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And I don't remember right now, one way or another, you can get there an hour faster just by the wind at your back versus the headwinds.
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I mean, it's literally a difference in the amount of time it takes because the wind just carries you.
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And so again, as you think about it, if the wind is in your face, it becomes more of an issue.
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But he says, all the days of my hard service, I will wait till my change comes.
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If people really realized that there is, that this is true, do you not think they would live a different life? If people really believed that God was going to take account of this, this, this being in this life, do you not think that that would change the hearts of people? Well, we could say yes and no.
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Yes, if you think about it, right? No, because it's only the spirit of God that gives life, right? And I say it every time I go to set free, and I've said it here a number of times, that death will change a man's opinion of God.
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There'll be no, there'll be no misunderstandings in that day.
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And so when he says this, he says, I'll wait till my comes.
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And then in verse 15, you shall call and I will answer you.
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I want to hunker back to something that we looked at real quick.
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When we were looking at chapter 13, go back to chapter 13, just for a second.
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So remember, we talked about this, that Job really, um, his prayer is a little bit, I think it's a little bit challenging.
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And he says, only two things do not do to me, I will, then I will not hide myself from you would draw your hand far from me in verse 21.
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And let not the dread of you make me afraid, then call, and I will answer.
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And then he adds, and this is where I thought he was out of line, let me speak and you respond to me.
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And he's, he's, he's talking to God.
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But it's interesting.
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He says, then call and I will answer.
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And then he says in verse 15, chapter 14, you shall call and I will answer you.
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And then if remember what lies ahead at the end of the book of Job, when God comes in, God says, what, stand up like a man, I'm going to question you, and you're going to answer me.
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And so when you think about that, this, this whole idea of, um, having to respond, if you will, and having to answer is, is always to be, if you will, not only in the mind of those who don't know Christ, but even to us who do know Christ.
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Do you not, do you not agree that we shall all give account of ourselves? And we've had this conversation, and I want to make this division.
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Yeah.
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And just so we think about it.
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Is there a difference between this difference between those two? If so, what is it? And depends how you define words, right? But I'm going to define it this way.
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Judgment is, again, people might have a different nuance to, to me, this, this is the, the way in which we glorify God and grow.
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But I do, both of these are applicable in everyone's life to, to one point of the other.
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And again, some people will say, well, judgment can be used as far as that.
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And that's probably true.
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And this probably is that, I don't know, the teacher will be back next week.
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I had it right the first time.
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Whatever.
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But don't you think that, don't you think that as you look at it, and what he says here, it says, my change will come.
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Verse 15, you shall call, I will answer you, you shall desire for the works, the work of your hands, that there's going to be friends, every one of us.
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There's no one that can escape this.
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Remember what Jesus said? He said, the things that are hidden shall not be revealed.
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Judge nothing before the time.
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Romans 14, Romans, Paul, where Paul says, why do you judge another man's, why do you judge another brother, for we shall all give account of ourselves.
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Now that ought to shake the bones a little bit.
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That, remember what Jesus said, even in the, in the realm of the words we use, every idle word a man shall speak, he shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
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That's enough to blow your mind.
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That's enough to make you not want to ever talk again.
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If you think about it, and, and, but all these things are in the heart of Job, and his friends have made these horrible accusations about Job, haven't they? You're getting what you deserve.
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You're getting less than you deserve.
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You're a hypocrite.
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You're a liar.
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You're a secret sinner.
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You're a closet rebellion, rebellious person.
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All these things that they continually accuse about, and Job is basically saying, listen, man is, man is frail.
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Man is, he's unable, if you will, to, just like we would say, control some of the things that goes on.
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Would we not all say that we sometimes have thoughts that we don't want to have? And that it's not always easy to even define where those thoughts came from.
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You ever think about that? I mean, it's, it's troubling.
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And so when he says this, he's going to wait, and then God's going to call, and then he's going to give an account.
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He says in verse 16, for now you number my steps.
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Now you number my steps, but do not watch over my sin.
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And I think this is where he's trying to say, Lord, in light of the truth that I am like a flower that fades away.
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In light of the truth that, that man is born for trouble.
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As he said in the beginning, man is born a woman is a few days and full of trouble.
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In light of that, God, why are you continually coming after me? Because I think that's what, that's what his friends have said, basically.
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You're, God's coming after you because you deserve that.
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Job is saying to God, in a sense, why are you, why are you picking on me? Why have you singled me out? And I wonder if sometimes we might think that, that God has singled us out.
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And, and why do we have to go through the things that we go through? Is it not because, again, if we think about it in this realm, that God has appointed every single step for us.
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Let's see if I can remember real quick where that is.
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I want to just, yeah, can't find it right now.
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But anyway, I wanted to show you where it says, and we will get to where Job says that, that God has performed the things that are appointed for us.
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And that's exactly what it that, that God appoints and performs what he has laid out for us.
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And that there's no escaping of that.
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So when Job says this, that don't watch over my sin and my transgression is sealed.
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And this verse 17, I had a, I had a really struggle with it.
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And I still struggle where he says, my transgression is sealed up in a bag and you cover my iniquity.
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And so I looked at some of the other commentators as they try to understand this verse, and basically it came out one of two ways.
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That either Job is saying my transgression is sealed up a bag and you cover my iniquity, that he realizes he's, he's right with God.
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And that God is not going to hold his sin against him.
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Or others have said, my transgression is sealed up in a bag and you cover my iniquity that God seems to not let Job escape.
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Not one single thing.
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Now, I, I, I'm not sure which one it is.
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Um, but I know it's can't be both because again, truth can only be, what is your translation say or 17? My transgression, my transgression would be sealed up in a bag and you would cover over when you would cover over my iniquity.
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Right.
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Okay.
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Um, but nevertheless, I'm not really sure how to take that.
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And I don't want to try to say which one it is because I really don't know friends.
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Um, but I know this Job is really, um, responded to his friends and he's, he's calling out to God and he's really seeking that God would, I don't know, in a sense, ease up on him that he would, um, let him go to his resting place until that day.
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And then he realizes that his change will come verse 18.
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But as the mountain falls and crumbles away, and as a rock is moved from its place, as water wears away stones and as torrents wash away the soil of the earth, so you destroy the hope of men.
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Well, that's a, again, you take that and say, well, that's, that's pretty sad.
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It's not really sad.
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I mean, uh, I don't know about you, but I'm glad that God has wore away the rocks because otherwise we would never have sand.
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I mean, that's much easier to walk on sand at the beach than rocks, but you think about it, it's just the flow of, if you, if you will, the flow of life and that if we go back here, if you wanted to expand that, you would have to then include this whole idea of this, right? That because of that issue and because of that transgression and because of the consequences from that, that everyone is basically being worn down little by little, little by little, and that that's the cost.
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And, and then ultimately we would, we would have to then include, um, the reality of Christ for why he came.
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Not to reverse so much the natural cost of things, but the supernatural.
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So I think there's a blessing in understanding the reality of things.
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Yeah.
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As opposed to that second X right there and that being it, there's a blessing in understanding, even if it is sobering, even if it is a little bit of a downer, when you think about that, the steps between the first X and the second X is about two and a half days, brother, it really is.
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And when you really see that, yeah.
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And, and many people, and here's the thing, and this is the sad part.
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You want to know what really is the sad part is that people are trapped here.
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That's all people see, right? And so what do they do? Then you get into heated dies with the most toys wins.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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If Paul says, if we only have hope in this world, we are all men, most miserable, most pitiable.
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So yeah, I mean, this to me is a real downer, right? But this could should never be understood apart from that.
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And again, unfortunately, especially in the flesh, and especially in job situation.
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This is really the current is really strong there, isn't it? And for you and I, we we got to set our mind where Paul says, things above, set your mind in where? Heavenly places.
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Because again, this is a slow draw for many, many things.
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Even as I read to you last week when we close of Ecclesiastes chapter 12.
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Remember that? Remember what he says, rejoice, while you still have vinegar.
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And I said that to Caleb and Corey said she was going to make use of all the vinegar he had.
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While he had vinegar, because it will, it will disappear.
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Remember the whole analogy Ecclesiastes before the grinders grind down and before the lights go out in the streets and before the hearing all those things.
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If that's true, it's a picture of some of the functions of the body.
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We would all have to agree to that.
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But this this truth of the net, I don't want to say natural flow, but it is natural in the sense that everyone is everyone is in this group.
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Aren't they? And then you know, and I'll just say it this way.
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When you think about what's taking place in the world, whether it's in Europe or in the Middle East or in another place.
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It's so sad, isn't it? We're just going to kill each other.
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Is that is that how we're going to solve this problem? We just blow each other up.
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We just do more damage as if as if the the wearing down and the consequences of the judgment of God isn't enough.
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We're going to just blow each other up.
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Is that is that what we're going to do? We're going to make.
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It's really.
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I want to use the word stupid.
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I don't like to use the word stupid, but if you think about it, it's really dumb, isn't it? And then we get James.
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Why do we why do we fight more anyway? Because as much as this is the reality.
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The lust and the greed and the envy and the madness and the insanity of it all, man, that just runs that current is running strong through here, isn't it? And again, if they get from that standpoint, isn't it great that you and I have this in our minds and guess what? There is no hatred here.
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There is no killing.
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There's no madness.
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There's no insanity.
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There's no misunderstanding that this is this is no bueno.
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This is great.
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And again, with Joe was talking, does he have New Testament understanding of it? No.
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And you said that might even seem so simple.
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What you had said before, simplicity is not always a bad thing.
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Matter of fact, simplicity is many times a good thing, right? Like people talk about the Middle East to say it's such a complex issue.
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Yeah, it might be a politically complex issue, but guess what? It's people killing people.
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Right? No matter how you try to dress it with all the different complexities, it's still people hurting other people.
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And to what end? I don't know.
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You want to fight over Iraq, you go right ahead.
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But anyway, let's finish it.
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He says, as torrents in verse 19, as the torrents wash away the soil, the earth.
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So you destroy the hope of man and you prevail forever against them.
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And he passes on.
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You change his countenance and you send them away.
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And it's interesting how it adds this in that his sons come to honor.
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He doesn't know it.
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I wondered about that.
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I'm not really sure how I understand.
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But is there a realization once you leave this world of what followed after you? Is he saying no? He says they are brought low and he doesn't perceive it.
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Is he saying then that there's no understanding of it's like the man who leaves an inheritance to someone and doesn't, does he know what that person that he left, does he know what he's done with it? And it even talks about that in Proverbs and in other places where it addresses the fact that some people are workaholics and they work, work, work, work and they build up a mountain.
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And guess what? They die and they leave the mountain to someone else.
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And the next person comes in and they destroy the mountain in a very short period of time.
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Just almost like the prodigal son, right? He's, he did what? He spent his inheritance, ruined it.
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Anyway, verse 22 will finish the chapter.
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He says this, but his flesh will be in pain over it and his soul will mourn over it.
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And I think he's going back to the fact that in light of all that Job still got to deal with his own situation.
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And, and that he is, um, he's truly a mess, but I think he realizes he's God's mess and that you and I, no matter what comes upon us and no matter what people say, and we'll see it now, because as we go back, as we go into chapter 15, Eliphaz, the first speaker, he comes back into the mix and he's just going to jump right on Job again.
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And he's just going to blast them again.
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And, and again, basically that's how this book has been given to us by God.
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It's this series of truths, falsehoods, half truths, and yet Job's got to weed through it all.
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And then listen, hang on, because as we get further on in the book, it really takes a great turn.
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Especially after God comes in and that's the reality for all of us friends.
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When God comes in, um, he makes all things good.
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So already, I think that'll finish our time this morning.
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Let's just close the word of prayer and we'll go.
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Hey, Ricky, would you close us in a word of prayer? That's right.
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Amen.
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Amen.