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Tell me when tell me when to go whatever we're on. All right. So welcome back. We're gonna be doing a little bit of Q &A. So we'll just open up to questions. All right. All right. I don't know. I never heard that they were ever called priestesses.
It's only The priesthood is only by the males, but I understand so I'd say no to that one, but I don't know. That's a good question. I've never had to Answer that one before. Good question. I don't think don't think it's the case though.
Don't go ahead. We got if people don't show up or whatever Cut it short tonight because we're towards the end of this thing. That Mike's not turned on. Okay, I will figure it out and this is on karma videos too, okay I'm gonna find How to find the video.
So I can watch I can see what any question that people might have and coming in. Okay. Yes. Let's see. Oh, here we go. Oh cool. Oh Gotta show him here. All right, so if anybody wants to ask any questions in YouTube I'm watching YouTube chat so you guys can fire him away if you want.
You only have some people watching so it'll be slow and we'll end up going leaving early. What's up? Okay. He has to go to the temple in order to receive the endowments that has to be done in the temple.
So without a temple he can't do it. That's what I've understood. They wouldn't be able to do that from what I understand. But I don't know if they would say that maybe in a special circumstance that someone could just give them the knowledge.
But it's never been anything. I've heard has been Acceptable way too close. Can we move it back and forth? Yeah, go for it. There's nobody else. Okay I Don't know if they do baptisms for the dead. I have understood only the guy to the priesthood can do that, but It's not something I don't study the Mormon temple ceremony very much.
It's usually a doctrinal thing, but that's a good question. Bill McKeever wouldn't know but I don't know if they women do women practice baptism that they do that too. Don't they for the. Yeah. No, let me you did it for others.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And that's a good picture frame. Looking good during camera, buddy. All right. Ask away. Yeah, you guys can ask questions if you want if not, no big deal. One of the things we're going to talk about is if is what we're going to talk about if it was what we're going to study next and I May want to take a week off or something like that.
I've been studying my brains out what? Okay, what do you got for suggestions. I Could do Jehovah's Witnesses. I could do Islam. Yeah, I could. I got Islam basically ready Jehovah's Witnesses. I have to develop a course like this.
It would take me weeks. There's a lot of work. You have to make the graphics to go through paginate put everything in which it's certainly worth doing. The audience mic isn't working and the cameras too high.
Okay, we've got that fixed the transition of streams seems a bit awkward, but I navigated myself around it good. John Baker. All right. Okay. Well, you know what if nobody's gonna ask any questions, we just call it.
We'll give it a minute. No serious. That's no big deal. It's just towards the end of all this we're tired and long series. Go go for it. Can't get it locked. Yeah I have not studied that. It's a deep topic and there are schools of thought and They the guys who studied this stuff discuss which tree is better than others for different reasons and I've never gotten into it because it's it's such a rare topic that I don't have to worry about it and So I just haven't been able to Devote any time to it.
It's you know, Mormons are asking more Muslims are asked, you know, so I'll go into these things, but that's it's a worthwhile study. I do know one of the guys on staff with us. That's one of his hobbies.
He loves studying that stuff. Just one of those things. He likes studying so you could email us at Karm, maybe for an email to him. And maybe he'll know he likes studying biblical Textual evidences and stuff like that.
So he studied it. It takes a lot. There's a lot of study in it. All right, okay. Let's see Matt you should do an in-depth study on the tabernacle of fulfillment of Jesus. Yeah, that's that would be good.
Yep, it would be good. I People should do an in-depth study on something. Wow, okay. So I'm thinking in terms of weeks that it would take me to to get something like that done. And how many things I've already got how many projects I got backed up.
It's just I want to do so much. But yeah, that's a good idea. Hey, dude, how do you ride the x17 but through the okay, whatever? So I guess that's it. Yes. Because of pressure. It was actually political pressure.
Because when Brigham Young had taken the Mormons out to Utah and they were in the Salt Lake City Valley they were there for quite a while and statehood was an issue and so I don't know all the historical details, but statehood was an issue coming into the Union and To do that they could not have polygamy plus there was an issue of some Military force coming in to do something With the state and it had something to do with that topic and some other topics it wasn't just one thing and so then they conveniently got a revelation that polygamy was no longer necessary and Then statehood could come and some other stuff so that's.
That's that's the issue there. Who was scripture referring to when it says the angel of the Lord. It depends on the context. The angel of the Lord in the Old Testament sometimes was referred to as as the pre-incarnate Christ in the New Testament Angel of the Lord most probably is just an angel created being so depends on which usage go ahead.
Yep. The real rapture. Well, the real rapture is just the rapture it's when The Christians who are alive and remain are caught up to meet the Lord Jesus in the air. And it's out of first Thessalonians 4 Verse 16 through chapter 5 verse 2.
It's just what the rapture is not an issue really of a real rapture. It's just that's the rapture. Let's see Gina Williams says or Willis, excuse me. Since I go to church once in a while where the pastor is a woman.
Is it weird that I feel like I should not be there? Women are not to be pastors. She's not supposed to a pastor. Okay. First Timothy 2 12 and 13 says Paul says he does not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over man.
But remain silent for Adam was first created. It's not a cultural issue. She's not to be in a place of authority and you can also go to First Timothy 5 17 which says that the elder the pastor is an elder and then you can go to Titus 1 5 through 7 and 1st Timothy 3 1 through I think 6 and it talks about the Elder is to be the husband of one wife a man of one woman literally in the Greek and a pastor is an elder and the Bible says that the elder is to be a husband of one wife a man literally of one woman.
So a woman cannot be a pastor. It's not right. Okay. They also talked like they get a word from God then should I stay there and I wouldn't stay there. Yeah, that's you know, they'll be sitting there guys and girls will do this up in the pulpit.
I'm getting a word from the Lord good work. Oh, wow. Well, our pastor could talks to God directly. Which that is saying is look to me. I'll give you these words. Look how special I am. I'll inform you and You'd really I'm not pointing to the word that's what's the problem there.
So what is the rapture rapture biblical yeah things like that on his car so about this issue. It's really something that's important is that you can really elevate yourself with. I got a word from the Lord.
Oh, I'm hearing the Lord. Talk to me. I'm this I'm that look how what you're not saying I'm special but what you're doing is showing you're special and What that does is it causes people who are gullible and Willing they'll just blow that person talks to God.
He gets it from the Lord right now. Okay, we'll go to that person for truth instead of opening the Word of God. That's a problem. It's a big problem. Alright, there we go All right next.
The next question is from Victor Vasquez. Can you explain?
Black Hebrew Israelite movement. There's a lot of factions within it, but basically it says You can go okay. Basically what it is is that the true people of Israel are the black people and the white people are not black Hebrew Israelite and Some go so far as to say that white people are demonic and that they're actually demons.
Oh Yeah, some do some don't most of them don't they don't say no they're not devils and things like that, you know, call them white devils and stuff like that, but There's a large faction in a large and there's divisions within it quite a bit.
Some of them are more militant and some are not but basically the idea is that the black people Are The true Israelites the true people of God and everybody else are imposing their will Upon the true people of God and abusing a power that is not theirs and they need to be stopped you can imagine what this could lead to and It's racist.
You know, it's the black people of it the black. Oh, so it's a skin color thing now. They're the true people of Israel. Wow John Baker my mother liked him like female churches. How do you have a female church?
I mean What's a female church? What without a steeple? Sorry, I could not resist that one. I Can say some other things but I'm not gonna that's plenty probably too much. Sorry. Yeah, man, you already said it just lost his salvation.
Probably likes female pastors, but I know that like Matt I know like Matt that this oh, you know that it is wrong. So I get into heated arguments with the woman that I love over there with your mom. Yeah, that's jumping.
I know Johnny's good guy. She didn't give you life God gave you life, but she was the means by which God gave you life, but yeah. And John's a good guy, okay anybody else. After his human after his human nature Jesus was still human after his ascension next.
Well, I don't know, you know people. Oh elaborate. Okay Jesus did not stop being a man after his resurrection. Ascension into heaven right now in heaven is a man on the throne of God with holes in his Wrists and his feet back ripped open.
He retained the crucifixion wounds after the. Even after the resurrection you go to John 20 25 to 28 put your finger into my hand. Put your hand into my side. He said to Thomas that was his glorified resurrected body at a first Corinthians 15 35 and 45 and he ascended into heaven and right now he sits at the right hand of God.
He's headed to heaven in the same way. He went up. He'll come back. That's acts 1 9 to 11 and the Bible says there's one mediator between man and God the man Christ Jesus. That's 1st Timothy 2 5 and Colossians 2 9 says for him dwells all the falls of deity in Bodily form so he's a man right now.
Yeah, there's no lessening of his human nature. He's the first fruits of creation. You can say that you go to Colossians 1 15 and he's the first one To be resurrected like that. So he's still man fully man fully God and forever will be in that state.
That's proper Christian theology. All right, the new body is a glorified body. It means it's a glorified body which doesn't is not susceptible to death anymore for one thing. We don't know exactly what it means.
The only evidence we have is they recognize Jesus. He still had the wounds. But he has glorified body and he could appear in different places. So hopefully it's what we can do to. That'd be cool. I'd like that.
Go to a couple of big computer stores and check thing. Probably that way we do. Okay, sorry. They don't. I haven't got any good answers, I don't know if I look into that. Oh. Or well, he yeah, but you know, oh God didn't want him to be a god yet because he had to be an angel.
That's the one that makes that part. Because he had to get the books and stuff. Well, there's a spiritual vision a spiritual eye they didn't see him and then the first visions wrong. So, how do you how do you have a spiritual vision with blue sunglasses?
That's a spiritual vision. What is it, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. That's not what they say though in the in that all right, let's see when looking at Revelation 22 2 does this imply that there are people at eternity with unglorified bodies due to the tree of life being for healing of the nations?
The tree of life has many has several different interpretations of what it can be and because it's ambiguous I don't know how to answer the question because I don't know what the actual meaning of the tree of life actually is.
Some say it means you're saved some say but yet your your names blotted out some say there's a textual variant there. Near there. So, you know, it's the tree of life. That's one of the topics I can look at and I don't know the proper answer to that.
My god, because the Bible just doesn't tell us what it really is. So, I don't know. I mean when did all the different languages start and why so many about 14 years ago on May 8th? Tower of Babel, that's what it happened in the Bible a few thousand years ago.
What is your response when someone says to baptize in the name of Jesus only because one Peter said he baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and two when Jesus said father son and holy spirit he said in the name of and those are titles not names.
It's one misargument the name of the father said Holy Spirit is Jesus so you baptize the name of Jesus. But he failed to understand is that in Acts 4 7 it says that they were Questioning Peter in what name by what authority do you do this?
They understood in the name of to mean in the authority of stop in the name of the law. So we did this by the authority of Jesus in the name of is a designation of the authority of. So to baptize in the authority of Jesus in the name of Jesus, which is the authority of Jesus.
You say I baptize in the name of the father son Holy Spirit. That's the correct view now we know from the didache and It's the only document that's not biblical that I will quote that has some merit. Because the didache was written probably between 60 and 80 AD.
When John the Apostle the very least was still alive and in the didache It talks about baptism in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. But it actually says get baptized each time three father one.
So I'm baptizing the Holy Spirit three times, but it just shows that it was done in the full Name and that's right. They're not scripture. I don't make doctor out of scripture, but it's very important supportive information.
The didache says that and that's that sense it's called a didache. You go to my website calm org. Didache look up didache and you can read it. It's not that long. You don't worship the human nature and the divine Jesus.
That's an historian ism in the sense that within the body of Christ are two distinct natures. Just worship Jesus the one person the one person of Jesus had two distinct natures. Just don't worry about this nature that nature just worship Jesus and we perceive the divine through the human.
So if we were all back there in time of Jesus, we would see him walk on water, but that's a human thing but we would see him at. Demonstrate the attributes of divinity in this miraculous ability to to walk on water.
We would see him call the storm by a command and this ability to do that so We would see the divinity through the humanity and that's what we got to understand so We don't worship just the humanity and not the divinity or the divinity not the humanity.
That's that's a false approach. Just worship Jesus if he was there. Right in front of you. That's him. That's the one person with two attributes. I'll see me with the attributes of both natures of both God and human both God and man, okay.
All right. How can my Lutheran friends be right on so much yet? Look to their baptism as concrete evidence of salvation. How can they be so steeped in the world? In the word as and miss it they can do that because they're indoctrinated and they're loyal to their denomination and not to scripture.
I went to a Lutheran College so I know exactly what's going on there. Matt if Earth is the only planet with human life. What are all those UFO sightings? I believe they're demonic manifestations. Oh, he says I believe they're demons.
What about you? Yes I believe they're demonic manifestations because they teach theology and they teach Jesus is not God that we are divine and reincarnation is true and. So this is not very commonly known but it is One of the things that they do so these are not biblical doctrines, I believe they're demonic manifestations.
Okay, here we go any other questions. What. Why do Lutherans reject Calvinist teachings. Because they don't really take the Bible seriously. I'll make it trouble for that one. No, because they have presuppositions that.
Because they focus certain things they focus us on a few other things than Reformed theologians do in my personal opinion having gone to Concordia University I got my bachelor's degree from a Lutheran College.
LCMS Lutheran Church, Missouri. Synod Rod Rosenblatt was my professor in a lot of the classes there. For those who know that know who he is that might. Get some kudos. In my opinion Lutheranism is you know, Luther did a great job leaving Roman Catholicism, but he didn't go far enough where Calvin completed it and so I my opinion is that Lutheranism just has a little bit too much of Roman Catholicism still flowing through its veins and.
They're semi sacerdotal. I mean that the sacraments are the means of grace, but they're not extensive like they are in the Roman Catholic Church, so. That's that's why I believe that and then you grow up in that and you kind of hold on to that.
Let's see. Yeah, they I saw these orbs more than ten times in the past four years. Well, you got to check your vision. Maybe you have something an ophthalmologist might want to look at. That's the first thing I would check.
I've seen gargoyle looking demons before I got saved. I've seen some demonic stuff, too. Gargoyle stuff. Was it like in the morning? Would you turn the light on in the bathroom? Cuz you know Shadows can make you look pretty bad.
But uh, especially if you're a guy, you know girls never see gargoyles, you know guys. But. Yeah, you know check your eyes make sure that what happens, you know, I just check your eyes first but. Actually, I've seen orbs too.
I was in the occult. We saw balls of light moving. Okay, Luther died before he could take care of all the RC issues. Yeah, it looks like right. Da de Mendoza any update on the INC study? No the Iglesia Ni Cristo study.
No. Yeah, I really need to do that. Don't I? Oh boy. I believe you live holy. I believe you saw stuff. Yeah, I've seen stuff when I was involved in the occult. The other questions you guys got. What's that.
Who messed up all the text. I Can't follow who makes up the text the tech the tech. Oh, sorry. Because I do have that ringing in my ears. A lot of people don't know it's pretty loud. So sometimes I don't hear stuff, right?
John Baker it is strange to me that Sam is not familiar with the principles of reformed theology. But I await his explanation for his response behavior. Okay. Okay. And Okay, but he also come on guys fire some questions at me.
Isn't that a nice picture? It'll be right there. Relaxing you'll be there. That'd be nice. That'd be nice. It's Windows 10 actually, but yeah I'm medium. I don't know. I have to ask the spirit why he does that.
Let me think about it. Somebody say why does the spirit not do this? I don't know. Why did he say one person? I know I don't know. And not answer able to answer those kind of questions because it has to do with what the spirits intention purpose and reasons are which I don't know.
But we could give Generic things. He doesn't give election to some people because well, they don't want to believe it. Okay. Who knows there could be lots of Reasons and things. Hey, Matt, should I commit my time to complete the entire Calvin Institute?
I don't know Wayne. I've never read the Calvin's Institutes. I've heard it's really good though. It's up to you if you got nothing else to do read them. Speak a bit mad about smoking and if it's a sin, I don't think it's a good thing to do.
I don't know if it's a sin because we have to define what constitutes a sin in the sense of of our body is smoking a sin, well. How about having coca-cola? Is it a sin about? Candy bar and I'm not just cloud the issue with a bunch of questions.
It's just Why just say smoking when there's other things that relate to what we do to our bodies? And so the issue is smoking isn't bad for a body. Yeah, but then maybe eating something certain foods fast foods is wrong it's bad too and would it then be a sin then we get into the issue of you know of Honoring what God has given us in our own bodies.
And so I'm not gonna say it's sinful. But I would say it's not not a wise choice. I'll just leave it at that. What is the International Church of Christ. Okay, let's see. My son has autism and I taught him some on Jesus and God since I'm not sure how much he understands.
Will he go to heaven since he believes in Jesus and God from what we say if he believes in Jesus. And you know all the truth then sure the reason he's going he does that is because he's regenerate. If someone believes in these things, that's a sign of regeneration.
So you should expect to see him in with the Lord. I Would say so site Matt. Do you believe that calling Jesus the Most High God has a biblical foundation? Calling him the Most High God. I had to look at the phrase the Most High God see how it appears in Scripture and See if we can use it in an economic Trinitarian sense in reference to the second person.
But certainly the Most High God appeal refers to the whole of the doctrine of the Trinity the ontological Trinity sense and that the Father's and Holy Spirit also share the divine nature and Says. I'd like to know how phrases are used by God in the Bible.
I can't answer the question. If it's appropriate for the Son because some things are for the Son only and some of the Father only. But generically speaking I would have no problem with with it. Jesus is the Most High God.
Not if you mean though that the second person of the Trinity is the Most High God. Then who would the Father and the Holy Spirit be in relationship to that? So that's you got to be careful how you're saying things here because that question has Ramifications depending on how you interpret a few of the phrases.
Where is your scriptural support for regeneration happening before repentance and faith? He causes us to be born again first Peter 1 3 and you can go to John 1 13, which I'll do right now. Read John 1 13.
Come on John 1 13. Talk about us who are born Christians who are born. I'll read that verse 12 because people in one of them. But as many as received him, that's the Christians to them. He gave the right to become children of God even to those who believe in his name who were born talking about being born again.
Here, okay not of the blood. Now nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man but of God. So regeneration is something that must come first because if you're born and pop up being born again. Not of your own will.
Then the will has to follow being born again. Because otherwise if you're born of your will then that would lead to regeneration, but that's not what the text is saying. Okay. Do you believe the calling Jesus Feast is to foreclose the 213 Hebrew.
Oh good for you to look. All right. Does scripture speak to whether God is displeased with someone getting a tattoo in this day and time? I want to say Leviticus 1918, but I don't think that's the right place.
But it does say in the Old Testament. Let me look up the verse about not getting tattooed and The leader of the context you'll see I will never get a tattoo. I do not like them. I have no desire of them.
I don't understand what people want to do it. That's just me. But I don't judge people who do so. In fact, I would even date a girl should I check to you all right, so. It doesn't. Maybe go to Carmen look up on a car.
But I have information. I'm curious where it is. I did the research on this and wrote an article. I didn't call it sinful. But if I remember correctly the issue that the tattoo thing in the Old Testament was here we go.
Oh, it is a little bit. Oh Leviticus 1928. You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves. I'm the Lord. Revelation 13 16 17 and he causes all small great rich poor free slave.
To be given a mark on their right hand and on their forehead and it's the mark of the beast. Leviticus 19 26 to 30 you shall not eat anything with blood nor practice divination or soothsaying. You shall not round the sides of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.
You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead or make any two marks on yourselves. I'm the Lord. So it seems that the context of the tattooing has to do with an occult a pagan practice of identification with the dead and If so, then the logic would be well, if you're not doing it for that reason, then it's okay.
That'd be the logic. One other issue is that this is for the Israelites and Who are under the Old Covenant and the Old Covenant is no longer in effect. So does that mean you're free. What what I say is if you want to do it, I don't recommend it but if you do it, that's between you and God and that's it and I I don't understand why anybody would want to do.
I just don't get it. It's just weird to me. How do you want to do that? I don't know. It just doesn't compute with me but Anyway, so if people do it, I don't judge. So I'll just leave it up to you and the Lord and go study it for yourselves.
Do you but here's a question? To put a tattoo on yourself is to identify with something. Now people have different reasons for doing things. Putting a face of a loved one. Some people want to put scripture you know.
So my Reticence of it doesn't mean it's right or wrong or anything but Between you and God, I'll just leave it at that. I'm done with that one. Depends on what he was teaching. Well, if he was anybody teaching oneness is not qualified to be a pastor.
So what do you do with a man who is oneness who becomes Trinitarian and he's in the church? Stay and teach the truth. Stay and slowly teach him the truth. You're in a great position to do that and yeah.
You know, it's we have these rules. But sometimes applying them can be a little bit difficult and so I Would say that. Well, let's put it away on one up one option is That he could stay and try and teach the truth.
But another one is that he might want to just leave and get grounded in the truth. Because if he's gonna leave oneness and become Trinitarian Then there's other things that are attached to that and he can't just solve them all in 20 minutes and then he decides to stay.
So I think you know might modify what I just said a little bit ago and just say yeah. Depending on the situation. I Like the idea. This is the opinion. I like the idea of staying and Trying to convert others to the truth but I also like the idea of Step down step away and go learn.
Or maybe you could try both Try and stay and teach the truth till he gets kicked out and then spend that time to go learn and use the street. What are you gonna do? Between God and that person, you know, I Say well, I gotta get away them and see maybe it's a good question though but yeah a Muslim once asked me why Jesus said he only came to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and I wasn't sure how to.
Please advise Matthew 15 24. Also, I think it's Matthew 10 6 He said only go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. The reason he said that this is the answer to this. Okay, Serrano is that Jesus was covenantally not sent to the whole world.
The covenant that God set was between God and the nation of Israel more specifically Abraham and his descendants the people of Israel. Jesus was said covenantally only to Israel. When Israel rejected the Messiah, then we the Gentiles are grafted in.
That's why he said he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. A lot of people think that Jesus was sent to the whole world. He was not because in Matthew 15 24 He says I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
He was not sent to the Gentiles. But of course the Jews rejected the Messiah we the Gentiles are grafted in as prophesied in Genesis 12 3 fulfilled so to speak in Galatians 3 8. Okay. Go ahead. On what?
I Don't know how old the earth is and I Don't believe it's millions of years old. I don't know if the Bible necessitates it to only be so to speak 6 ,000 years old. And I'm just not convinced that that's a necessity.
Scripturally, I don't have any problem with it being 6 ,000 years old. I could easily that if I thought the scriptures required that I don't see them as requiring it. How old was the garden Before Adam and Eve were put in.
Don't know how people say y 'all means one day. It's one of the things that people say when y 'all which is the Hebrew for word for day Is used with ordinal number ordinal numbers first second third fourth it always means 24 hours and that's not true because the seventh day doesn't have an end and That's the reason I don't equate it necessarily to literal 24-hour periods that's the only reason I don't do that and I Believe that the earth could be just 10 ,000 years old, maybe 20, maybe 50, maybe 100, but I don't think much more than that.
That's my view. Good God could have done it, but I don't have a problem with 6 ,000 years old either. Who's Michael Heiser. What. Who's Michael Heiser. Sometimes I read a book without knowing the name of the author is read and I Never I don't read whole books anymore.
I just read it for research trying to do everything on Kindle so Okay.
But you do read what. But you do read that when Jesus returns everyone is still dead and he resurrects them. Otherwise, if all people go to heaven or hell when they die who is still in their graves that need to be resurrected.
Is that on YouTube?
Can I see that so I can because it's a big long it's long and there's several things in it. Okay, good, so John 13 say said no man has gone to heaven which heaven there's three heavens the first second and third.
The first heaven is where the The trees and the clouds are the second heaven stars moon. The third heaven is the dwelling place of God. If you mean the dwelling place of God, that's correct. Nobody's gone there except Jesus who has descended from heaven.
There's no scripture anywhere that says you go to heaven when you die. You're right. There's no scripture says you go to heaven when you die. You're right, but does that prove you don't go to heaven when you die?
No. It doesn't. Second Corinthians 5 8 Says to be absent for the body is to be home with the Lord. Now in 2nd Corinthians 12 to it says I know a man whether 14 years ago 14 years ago whether in the body or out of the body I do not know but such a man was caught up to the third heaven.
That's the dwelling place of God. That is where God is and Paul the Apostle saying such a man went to heaven and this is most people think well. But some possible explanations is that Paul was referring to himself when he was stoned and left outside the study for dead.
But you do read that when Jesus returns everyone is still dead and he resurrects them. What do you mean by dead? I mean physically dead or do you mean that it don't exist anymore and soul sleep because some people say dead means because the Annihilationist will say when they're dead.
They don't exist anymore. They don't have life anymore in them. They're in a state of unconsciousness or this undefined soul sleep. So what do you mean by dead? It's seriously, I don't just not understood.
Otherwise if all people go to heaven or hell when they die who is still in their graves that need to be resurrected. I don't understand the question that doesn't make sense to me. So Okay. What. There's three heavens in Jewish cosmology the first heaven is the air the clouds.
The second heaven is the stars the moon the Sun. The third heaven is the place of God and second Corinthians 12 to Paul says a man was caught up to the third heaven and Second Corinthians 5 8 to be absent from the body is to be home with the Lord and Jesus is in heaven.
You'll be home with the Lord. You'll be in heaven. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they use that the third heaven they see there's three heavens and things like that but That's because they don't do their homework.
Yeah, and that's in first one is 15. Yeah, there's three three types and stuff that they'll they just totally misinterpret it, but I've got the proof. What I was just saying with the first second third level third levels first second third heavens.
It's on car how the three heavens just look it up. The scriptures are there to demonstrate it right there.
I don't know whether or not you read this one. I don't think you did. Neil Roy also asked. The Holy Spirit is the power and will of God. It is quoted as being like water poured out and given like a gift to believers.
It is not a third being.
Why does the Holy Spirit speak in Acts 13 to Holy Spirit said set apart from me Barnabas who may have called I'll come first Corinthians 8 11. I believe it is he has a will so if someone is going to simply use one set of scriptures and not use the whole of Scriptures referring to the person and work of the Holy Spirit, then they're going to end up with false Theology.
The Holy Spirit is certainly a force of power but this is we're talking about God and The Holy Spirit speaks what they're gonna have to say is it's just a personification. No, it's not what it is. The Holy Spirit said that only does is accomplished by persons now, of course.
The talking donkey did that because an angel spoke through so it's person is so occurring there. So he's got a problem With how he understands that. In Luke 1251 I think it is Jesus says from the blood of Zechariah To the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah.
This will be held against blah blah blah. So what he was doing was Authenticating the Old Testament not the Apocrypha. So that's not an issue and he also talked to the law of the prophets in the Psalms.
Which is the three divisions of the Old Testament? The New Testament is a Little more difficult to kind of prove that we have what we need. We can't can't prove it what we can say is that God is certainly capable of making sure his word is Recognized by his people at John 10 27 28 my sheep hear my voice.
So the word of God is the voice of God written down and the Christians recognize it some of the criteria that they used was was it written by an apostle or someone under the as an amanuensis as a scribe of the Apostle or disciple of the apostles and Did it have had several criteria that was one of the main ones and didn't have authority?
Was it consistent with other scriptures and had a testimony of the Spirit? There's a little bit of subjectivity in it and Before I understand the church recognized the word of God that way and that's how it was done.
So if someone wants to say how do we know that was right? You know what? Whatever. How far are we gonna go back? Well, we know that because of 18 councils and 15 guys they rested for 45 days. How do we know they did that right?
You know, you could just go on and on and on and so the issue is That we just what's that? The Pope says well that upsettles it so that's it. The church just recognized the Word of God. We can trust that God knows what he's doing and we have the full fullness of the gospel messages.
I have another question. What is Paul saying in Ephesians 5 3 through 6? It kind of makes me question. Once saved, always saved.
Okay, since it's at the beginning of the chapter Let me just read the whole thing. Therefore be imitators of God's beloved children and walk in love just as Christ also loved you. Gave himself up for us an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma but immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you as Is proper among saints and there must be no filthiness or silly talk or coarse jesting which are not fitting.
But rather giving thanks for this. You know with certainty that no immoral and impure person or covetous man Who is an idolater has an inheritance in the kingdom of God in Christ Jesus. All right. So he's saying that you need to be basically he's talking about you need to be sanctified.
Keep yourself, you know morally, right doesn't mean that's what good saves you but you know. Act properly do what's right. Don't be coarse jesting and stuff like that. For you know that Immoral people won't make it to heaven.
Now is he saying if you become immoral you're not gonna make it to heaven. What he's doing is he's talking to the people in the Ephesians and I've been to Ephesus. Incidentally, it's incredible. But he's talking to them.
Generically said look, here's the warning. You know that immoral people don't make it people who practice immorality are not saved. She first John 2 4 says if you say you know him and do not keep his commandments.
The truth is not in you and you're a liar. The reason that we keep the commandments because we're regenerated. We've been born again that God lives in us. You go to John 3 3 through 8 and John 14 23 that we are indwelt and we're changed and that's why we are then able To follow God those who are immoral those who are impure are not Christians.
It's not an issue here practicing a little immorality or little impurity or little covetousness. And therefore you lose your salvation. If that were the case now think about this if you're worried about losing your salvation and the issue of eternal security.
Think about this if this means That if you're immoral or impure or a covetous, which means I'm in trouble. Because I think some things I shouldn't think sometimes. Yeah, we ride on a road. Oops, what's right this thinking?
Okay. A covetous because I'll go I'll drive that road ago. Oh that want that guy's car right there. That's a nice car. Dang it. Okay, you know if things happen an idolater my wife's pretty hot and. So What does that mean?
What am I putting in front of everything? Does it mean I lose my salvation right then? I'll think about this if You're doubting eternal security. Then it means you can lose your salvation and if it means you can lose your salvation.
Then you won't know if you're ever gonna be saved because you don't know if you're doing enough good According to the law to keep yourself right before God. So If you're gonna sit there and say it no immoral or impure person who's immoral.
What does it mean someone who practices a little immorality or someone who is? Immoral. Because that's not a Christian though. I might think something. I shouldn't think sometimes it doesn't mean I'm not a true believer.
Doesn't you know if I just think an immoral thought oh, he's immoral go to hell what? How perfect have I got to be. This is the problem that this leads to. It leads to self-righteousness. It leads to pride.
You know look at me. I paid my tithes. I don't I Pay tithes of all that I get. I'm not an adulterer. I'm not a thief. I'm not like that tax gatherer over there. Luke 18 9 through 6 9 through 13 1814. How self-righteous we're gonna be.
No. Jesus said my sheep are my boys. So I give eternal life to them and they shall never perish. John 10 27 28 in John 6 20 38 through 40 where he said that the ones that are given to him by the Father he will never lose any of them.
Because I will know wise cast him out. Oh you can lose your own salvation. No, you can't. The deal is between the Father and the Son not between father and you. Anyway you should not you should doubt your.
And one more thing before I go on the reason people doubt their salvation is because they're. They've got their eyes on themselves the type of the cross. Now I'm not saying it's okay to sin. I'm not saying it's alright because you know Romans 6 1 through 2 says how should we have died to sin still live in it?
May it never be? We are not to live in disobedience to God. That's not what I'm saying. But those who are immoral and impure are those who do just that. That's not a sign of regeneration. It's a sign of darkness.
It's a sign of death. Not a sign of life. It's the Christians Who struggle against their sin their immorality their impurity their Failures. The Christians are the ones who struggle with that if you are struggling with these things.
It's a sign of life in you. If you don't struggle with them, it's a sign of death. The impure don't struggle with their sins the immoral they don't struggle with them they're dead. So don't put your don't put your faith in your ability to be good put your faith in the work of Christ and His ability to work good through you.
And live that way and that way you won't doubt your salvation. Now you're supposed to make sure you're saved. You know if you're living in sin. Well, and that and you don't have no conviction. That's a problem.
I wouldn't say you're saved. I'm getting other stuff anyway. Some what age of the earth age of the earth. You know. The theory is that whenever the word you own day is used with ordinal numbers for a second third.
It always means 24-hour period. That's not true. So the seventh day doesn't have that. That's why I don't believe that it's a literal 24-hour period set up for that. Now that doesn't really affect this 6 ,000 year old whatever how old it is.
I just don't know how old the earth is.
After the earth is already really old at some point because that last day that doesn't have a number with it is after he was already created, right? Yeah, I don't know how old the earth is. Right, but that's my point.
If it has a day and a number and a day and a number, the only day it doesn't have a number with it is the last day, but Adam was created before that. When Adam died, he was a certain age. Are we just not counting how old he is until after the fall or what's.
What would you say to that? I'm not sure I'm following the logic. Okay, so if Adam was a specific age when he died, then we can follow at least from Adam's death, the timeline, well I don't remember. I'd have to go look, but I'd have to list how old he was when he died.
We don't know how old he was, right?
Right, the Bible says how old he was when he died.
Oh, oh, oh, no, I was thinking, sorry, I was thinking I've been doing so much annihilationism work that my idea of death, I shifted it a little bit in counter, so I was thinking Genesis 2 .17, that's when he died.
Right. Biologically he died later, I was thinking that Yes, that's what I was thinking.
Yeah, that's how it was. So his biological death when he died, he was a certain age. Right, biological death. So are you saying that either. He was born after the earth was already really, really old, because I would think it would be I don't know, I'd have to look at it.
So you're saying the earth is 6 ,000 years old from Adam forward.
I don't know, because I don't know how old the earth is.
Right, I'm just, okay.
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know how long those periods are, those 24 hour periods I don't know if they're literally 24 hour periods, because of this problem with Yom and the seventh day. Right. That's the only, that's why I say, I can't answer because I don't have a set pattern to it.
So I'm just saying, at the very least, wouldn't it be accurate to say the earth is at least 6 ,000 years old from Adam onward, because it shows how old he was, and how old the following people were.
Yeah, I could have no problem that that was 6 ,000 years ago when he fell. Okay. But it doesn't necessitate how old the earth is before that.
Okay, even though the previous days, including the day he was made, says Yom and a number, the only day that doesn't have Yom and a number is last year.
It does, it does, Yom and the other number is the seventh, the seventh day. Okay. So it's the same, first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, they're all the same. Right. Yom with an ordinal number, but the pattern is broken.
Yeah. The seventh day doesn't end, so Yom does not necessitate, with ordinal numbers, a 24 hour period. That's it, and because of that, I can't therefore say it's just 24 hours, that's all. Okay. I'm saying I can't say it's only because the pattern's broken, that's my only caveat on this.
It's like, I don't know, because of that pattern, that's all. Okay. That actually threw somebody for a loop, who's a creationist who studies this, he goes, I never thought of that. And he has a response, we're supposed to talk about it, but I haven't heard.
You know, if he's got an answer for it, like, oh, there you go. I have no problem with a 24 hour creation time, I have no problem with 24 seconds. I can do what he wants, so, yeah. I just don't know how old those days are, that's all I'm saying, I'm just not sure how it is.
What's your response to those who say the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus and not a person? Go to Carm, look up, the Holy Spirit, just look him up, and you'll see that he has attributes of personhood.
He has a will, he can love, he can be grieved, he speaks. Use the whole of scripture. True, because I believe you can lose your salvation, like Jesse Morel when I first got saved. And it was really judgmental and condemnation, now I have been humbled by my backsliding.
Are you humble enough to keep yourself saved? And it was made on day six. See, Tulip, Doctrine and Covenants. And the more a believer grows in holiness, in daily living, they are more and more purified.
But also they view themselves as they are in light of God's holiness. The saved man mourns, that's right, the saved man mourns against his sin. Yeah, it was made mature on day six, what? Hebrews 12, 5 -11, let me take a look at that Hebrews 5, I'm going to have to get a mouse up here to make it easier.
What was it, Hebrews 5? Hebrews 12, 5. What? And you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons. My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him.
For those whom the Lord loves, he disciplines, and he scourges every son whom he receives. It is for discipline that you must endure. God deals with you as sons. What son is there whom his father does not discipline?
But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Yeah, that's the issue of being disciplined and reproved and matured by God through your circumstances and through your issues.
Boy, people are starting to ask questions here.
The next question is from Eric. Do you think it is wise to read other literature from the biblical era to better understand the mindset of the biblical writers, for example, First Enoch? Yes.
Okay, any more? He said, do you think it's a good idea? Yeah, it's a good idea if you want to do research and understand some of the stuff that's related to understand that it's not scripture. So even the apocryphal books have some interesting historical information, but it's not scripture.
And Jude references the book of Enoch, but it's not scripture. So there's no problem with doing that. Even Paul the Apostle quoted pagan philosophers. Just remember, it's not scripture. It helps us understand things.
In fact, when they do lexical studies on word meanings, what they'll do is look and see how it's used in other cultures and contexts. In fact, in one of the articles I was doing on annihilationism, where they say that the idea of the immortal soul is paganism.
It came from pagan ideas, which they can't prove. Just because Plato had an idea of immortality doesn't mean that's where it came from. And the Jews did believe in immortality. But when I did some research and I found out that there are other things that are similar to those backgrounds.
When you do word studies, you look at how it's used around you. How different texts translated of something, what words they use. And with the culture, how does it relate? And it's all worth it. And you start learning things.
And so I found that, let's just say for the annihilationists who might be listening I found that that sort of cuts both ways. If you want to say that the immortal soul idea is pagan in origin. If that's what you want to hold on to, then you have to give up other doctrines that you naturally believe in.
Because of similarities to pagan thought. And there's some big ones around the culture at the time. Anyway, and I have it documented.
Okay, sorry. Okay, next question is from Gina Willis. I do not understand why Jehovah's Witnesses think there will be a paradise on earth. Is that true?
Well, because it does say that there will be new heavens and a new earth. And so what they're interpreting it as is that it's going to be a paradise earth. Well, if there are new heavens and a new earth where things are restored, then it would make sense.
But what they're going to say is that the earthly class stays there. The heavenly class goes to heaven, the 144 ,000. I have one more question, Matt. This one gets me fearful sometimes. I've never really had someone explain to me.
Hebrews 12, 15 through 17. Hebrews 12, 15 through 17. See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God. That no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble. And by it many be defiled. That there be no immoral or godless person like Esau Who sold his own birthright for a single meal.
For you know that even afterwards when he desired to inherit the blessings He was rejected and he found no place for repentance. Though he sought with it for tears. It seems to me that what's going on.
And I haven't studied this for a while. So I'm going to be very careful and not get too specific. But generally what I understand is that Hebrews is written to the people of Israel. Even though the new covenant was in effect.
They were thinking in terms of being under the old covenant. The old law system. And so what he was doing, the writer of Hebrews, I think it was Paul Was writing in those terms familiar to them. In the context of their belief of the contemporaneous belief that the old covenant was still in effect.
And in that context he says see to it that you don't come short of the grace of God. That the covenant aspect of God in your work with God. And his work with you in the covenant Has certain boundaries that you're to keep in the covenant.
Make sure you don't fall short of the grace. Now grace, the unmerited favor of God that he has given you even in the covenant. So if you're going to be Hebrews Be careful that you don't mess up in a covenant relationship and aspect.
That's how I understand it to be. He mentions Esau. I'm not exactly sure why he would do that. But Esau sold his birthright. What was covenantally given to him. What was properly for him. He got rid of it.
He gave it away because of an irresponsibility. Missing the right that belonged to him. Just as the Jews have certain rights Because of who they are covenantally with God. They're messing out on it too.
Because they haven't come to the true living Christ Was the fulfillment of all the covenant work. I hope that makes sense. That's how I see that Pagans brush their teeth before Jews and Christians. But I practice it myself.
Yeah that's right. Actually Charlie Jonah. There's some allusions to Jonah in pagan. Real pagan stuff. The idea of What was the other one Jonah. I can find some. I can read some stuff. In fact maybe I'll do that just to do it.
I've got the file. Here I should be able to have it. I'll just open this. And then I can quote you some of the things I found. It's very interesting. If this file thing will open up It's not opening up to the supposed to be.
Let me do this. Okay Come on. There we go. Alright. Now Where is that one. It'll take me a second. Because this is really interesting. Gotta find the article title. Then the link. Then you'll get the link.
Here we go into the soul issue. Pagan come on where is it. Oh Greek concept. Okay got it. So That is there. Okay now I know where to look. Almost there. Sorry about this folks. Alright got it. So Annihilation of the soul.
Certain Jews portrayed death as the end of personal existence. Some Jews did that. Now that's not a Christian concept. The Jews. Some of the Jews are believing this. For example Jesus Ben Sirach taught that there were no joys to seek and show.
That's in Sirach 14 16 hyphen 17 It said God's people should pursue immortality through children. Now I can go on. That's just one of them. Pagan King lost seven sons just like Job. Canaanite literature from Ugarit Describes the trials of King Keret.
Who like Job lost seven sons. Oh interesting. Similarity. God does battle The mountain of God. Son of man coming with the clouds. This is in Ugaritic literature. Bodily resurrection Is by some other Jews.
So just saying that when. When someone Got this tangent here but When Pagan annihilationism. What got me onto that. Anyway I'll just continue When people make this mistake Of saying that it's Pagan in its origin.
Which doesn't prove it is. And I certainly don't accept that it is. And the Jews did believe In conscious existence after death. That's the great majority of them. Even if what these annihilationists say is true.
Which I don't regret that it is. So what? Just because someone has a similarity Doesn't mean it's false. And there's also the issue of what's called the genetic fallacy. The origin is Pagan. Therefore the truth out of it can't be true.
Well that's not the case. You know a pedophile taught So and so algebra. Therefore algebra is false. No. So it's a bad logic that the annihilationists use. It's all, it's just simple stuff. Alright. Any other questions or comments?
What got me on that? I don't know what got me on that. Well you know I'm always Always on topic all the time. So I don't know what the hell that happened. Wasn't aware that Jesus was speaking to him Covenantally sent only to Israel.
I'm now trying to reconcile this concept With verses like John 3 16 God so loved the world He gave his only begotten son. That the believing ones Not whosoever. But literally the Greek is the believing ones.
The world. So covenantally Jesus was sent only to Israel. But that doesn't mean God can't love all the nations. Right? Covenant is different than love. A covenant is a pact or an agreement. It doesn't mean God isn't loving the whole world.
While he makes a covenant or an agreement With only one nation. Okay? And John 10 16. What's John 10 16? Last one there's a Mormon. Okay let's see. Whoops. Maybe it's weenie. Alright I have other sheep which are not of this fold.
I must bring them also. And they will hear my voice. And they'll come one flock with one shepherd. Some think that's just the Gentiles Who are going to be saved. And 1 John 2 2 He's of appreciation only for our sins.
For the sins of the whole world. A lot of people don't understand. The word propitiation Is properly understood as The sacrifice that removes wrath. It's not expiation. It's the sacrifice that removes wrath.
If he's of propitiation for the sins of the whole world. And if the word world means every individual Then how could he be of propitiation That removes the wrath of God from every individual? That's one point.
First of all The whole world. What a lot of people do Is make a mistake. John 3 16 God's of the world. What does it mean? What does the word world mean? It means every individual. It's not what it says He loved the world.
It doesn't say he loved every individual. Because you go to Psalm 5 5 and Psalm 11 5 It says that God hates every individual. Who does iniquity. So wait a minute. People are reading into the text. They don't even understand what they're doing.
So if God was sent. Or if Jesus was sent only to the Lawsheep of the house of Israel. To the house of Israel Means a nation of Israel. He was sent only to Israel covenantally. Then what does the word world mean?
All the nations. All the groups. God so loved all of the nations. A lot of times people don't think in covenantal terms. They don't understand what's going on biblically Theologically here. And they fail to understand that God made a covenant with Abraham.
With the nation of Israel. That the messiah would come through the nation. So once the nation of Israel Rejected the messiah. Then people from other nations Were allowed to come in. Think of it in those terms.
Everything makes sense. Tulip says God loved Jacob and hated Esau. Paul Washer said that he hated the church of Esau. Esau was demonstrated in God letting him do whatever he wanted. Jacob however Jacob however he disciplined with his whole life.
Yeah I like that, that's good. Anybody else? Man The Manhattan Declaration. I'm trying to remember what I said about it. Because it's been so long since I had to refer to it. And I don't have my Internet connection going right now.
But it's on CARM. And oh maybe I do have my Internet connection. Yeah I do, I'm watching the video. Duh. Yeah sometimes I amaze myself. There you go, see, amaze myself. Light comes on Manhattan Declaration.
I have written about it on CARM. And I wrote about it years ago. CARM cannot sign The declaration. However it was with sadness That CARM cannot sign this. For one significant reason. It includes Roman Catholics as Christians.
Okay I can't remember so but I'll have to say yeah. For now but the one reason I said I can't is because it's the Catholics. So I probably am okay with most of it. But Roman Catholics can't do that. Manhattan Declaration.
Oh yeah and I started going into why. By quoting the Roman Catholic stuff.
How do you feel about the men who signed it. Like Tim Keller and all those people. Jesus. You need to repent. You cannot.
They need to Zecharias, Tim Keller. If they sign that declaration. And I try to remember If the declaration says that the Roman Catholics Are part of the Christian Church Then they need to recant. What they did.
Flat out. They need to because the Roman Catholic Church Is not a Christian Church. And it cannot be declared that it is. It goes against Scripture. And so anybody who would say that it's part of the True Church, if that's what they're saying.
Can't do it. I would say it'll recant. What? He couldn't do what? Couldn't sign it? I can't sign it. I wouldn't sign it. I can't remember what it was. It's been so long but it's on this one issue. Right now Roman Catholics as being Christians you can't do it.
Okay I couldn't sign it. It's not going to happen. Alright. Anything else? Alright. Then I'm going to give one plug for something. And then we'll close. I don't do this very often, I don't think I've ever done it.
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