September 30, 2020 Show with Josh Miller & Mike Riccardi on “Peace With God: One Hope, One Message (The Glorious Doctrine of Reconciliation)”

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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, Lake City, Florida, and the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Wednesday on this 30th day of September 2020, and I have today both a returning guest and a first-time guest simultaneously.

My returning guest is Pastor Josh Miller of Grace Bible Fellowship Church in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, who's actually going to be hosting a Bible conference coming up very shortly. And our first-time guest happens to be the speaker at this conference, Mike Riccardi, who is the pastor of local outreach ministries at Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, the church pastored by world-renowned theologian, Bible teacher and preacher, author, conference speaker, and radio and television preacher, John MacArthur.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you both back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Pastor Josh Miller, and also for the first time ever, Pastor Mike Riccardi.

Yes, Chris, it's great to be with you. Thanks for having us, and it'll be a joy to chat with.

You over the next couple hours here. Great, and our theme today is the same as your conference, reconciliation, the glorious doctrine of reconciliation. And Mike Riccardi, since you are a first-time guest, we have a tradition here on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, whenever we have a first-time guest, we have them give a summary of their salvation testimony, what kind of religious atmosphere you were raised in, if any, and what providential circumstances our Sovereign Lord used in your life to draw you to himself and save you.

So before we have you enter into our major theme of reconciliation today, why don't you tell us a brief version.

Of your salvation testimony? Sure, yeah, thank you again for having me on. I grew up in a family and took us to church. A young man who was angry, manipulative. He took me once because I really wanted to go.

On that trip, I was confronted with the overwhelming kindness on that trip, and in my life, I believed myself to be a Christian, professed to be a Christian, and so I knew that whatever good that I had was a blessing from God.

And so I realized that if God has given me myself, I have no reason. And at the time, I think I would have said that I was my faith, or rededicating my life to Christ or whatever. But then in the year following, when I actually opened the Bible and began reading, I discovered leading me to repentance, from that repentance, repentance, and not merely just from a carnal one that I had always said that I had known,.

And it's never the same. Praise God. Now, how did God and His providence bring you to Grace Community Church, the world-renowned church of John MacArthur, where he pastors?

Tell us about that story. Sure, getting more involved in my church, well not maybe, but definitely too early, people just thought, hey, this is a young kid excited about the Bible, let's let him teach, it's going to work out well.

And it didn't. I very quickly gave an opportunity that I probably shouldn't have had, and recognized my limitations right away, perhaps not too soon, in discipling me, helping me to know how to get out again, and should this be what I do?

Is God calling me to be a pastor? And I didn't think so. My life is a living out of getting to go get trained at John MacArthur through various means in my church, using the commentary, a friend of mine going to the unit right there.

And I decided after a while, this is the only place, Master's Seminary was the only place that I wanted to go, because I wanted scriptures the way that John MacArthur's was. And so I did, 11 years ago, but I haven't been able to get rid of it.

Well, tell us exactly what you do as the pastoral, or should I say the pastor of local outreach ministries at Grace Community Church.

Sure, there are about 25 different ways and 27 different ministries that Grace Church employs, uses to the Los Angeles area. Do evangelism on the street, we are in jails and rehab centers, and have rescue missions, and we support pregnancy centers, preach outside abortion clinics, and invite people onto our campus to play basketball and volleyball, and then hear the gospel at halftime.

It does other things. And my job is to identify those folks in our church and our congregation who are gifted in evangelism, and even those who aren't, but train them, and to develop and train in accordance with our doctrine and philosophy of ministry at Los.

Angeles. Well, I know that the website for Grace to You Ministries, which is the media ministry of Grace Community Church in John MacArthur, is gty .org, gty .org, and the specific website for Grace Community Church of Sun Valley, California is gracechurch .org, gracechurch .org, and we intend to repeat that information later on during the broadcast.

Now, Pastor Josh Miller, please tell our listeners who have not yet heard you on this program, tell us about Grace Bible Fellowship Church of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

Yeah, Grace Bible Fellowship Church has been in existence just about 100 years, actually, here in the Harrisburg area. We are part of a smaller denomination, Bible Fellowship Churches, about 65 churches, 10 church plants, mostly throughout the Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania, and then into a bit of New Jersey, New York, and there are some places in New Mexico, United Brethren in Christ, Mennonite Brethren in Christ.

So, a Mennonite Brethren in Christ movement that changed, almost did it about faith in the 1950s and 60s, adopting a Reformed understanding of the application of salvationism, but taking on the idea of election, understanding that the Holy Spirit as the only efficient in the soul, obviously that is going to pragmatically in the life of a church, in the life of a denomination.

So, that's a little bit of a background, and I've been here in Harrisburg about eight and a half years teaching here at Grace Bible Fellowship Church.

And what is the website of that fine church?

Yeah, gracebfc .com.

Gracebfc .com. Now tell us about this conference that you have arranged for, I believe it's this weekend, featuring our fellow guest here, Mike Riccardi.

Yeah, it's our privilege to have Mike with us this weekend. This is our fourth year conference. It's somewhat informal, casual. It's a Saturday afternoon, Lord's Day on the following Sunday, obviously a little body of believers.

But it began five years ago. This is actually our fourth one. This is our fourth annual conference. It began with a celebration of the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, 1517, and the nailing of the 95 pieces on the door of the Wittenberg Chapel.

And we did a celebration that weekend of that, and it went well, and we thought, hey, let's do it again. And then we did it again, and then we did it again. So it's kind of turned into a fall gospel conference with a Reformation emphasis.

And it's been great. Our guest speakers in the past week stimulating and encouraging the body of believers here. So it's somewhat of a gift that we give to our local church and to anybody who wants to come and join us.

And if anybody wants more details on this conference, you could go to gracebfc .com, gracebfc .com, which is the website of Grace Bible Fellowship Church of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Well, Mike Riccardi, I'd like, especially since you have to depart from us before the full two hours are completed, I'd like you to have a dominant part of our remaining first hour of the broadcast.

This theme that you're going to be discussing on, reconciliation, please tell us why this is such a vital, core doctrine of Bible-believing Christians. It is something that truly separates historically biblical Protestants from Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox and from all the cults that profess to be Christian for that matter.

In fact, one might even say that it distinguishes historically Reformed Protestants from the Mennonites and those Anabaptists from which Grace Bible Fellowship Church sprang after a reformation of their own.

And by the way, I have to make a clarification that some of our listeners may have heard of a group called the Reformed Mennonites. That is not a group that is theologically Reformed as in Calvinist or confessionally Protestant.

It's actually a group that's Pelagian on steroids. They call themselves Reformed because they want to return to the teachings of Menno Simmons and believe that they are the ones that most accurately have done that.

And it's a real works, righteousness, treadmill and so on. So you want to stay clear of that. But reconciliation, a huge doctrine,.

A vital doctrine. If you could please tell our listeners about this. The ultimate, what we see in that passage is that one died for all. We see the doctrine of regeneration. If any man's in Christ, he's a new creature.

We see the doctrine of justification that God is against us, but in Christ, so that we might become the righteous with God in Him. They do say the overcoming of the enmity and the alienation that was created by God to have that trying God.

And yet it's not long that we get into the scriptures. Mankind through the God's law and God in the Garden of Eden and guarded with these angels would flay mankind into come into this world now, alienated from the very God we were created to know that the greatest thing that does that through the substitutionary atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ.

That's righteous in regenerating us. He grants us the gift of faith and it's by that instrumentality of faith that we lay hold with a righteousness that's not God without being incinerated by holiness.

And so on that basis, he can with him.

Amen. Now, this core of what you were speaking about, the imputation of our sins to Christ and the imputation of Christ's holiness and perfection to us to make us acceptable to God, because otherwise we would never would be.

This has been known by a wonderful term that I truly love, called the Great Exchange. This is indeed a precious core of our biblical faith in our gospel,.

Is it not? Yes, absolutely. The imputation of our sins to Christ and the imputation of Christ's righteousness. It goes back to the second century in the Epistle to Diognetus, it claims, you know, sins of the many should be hidden, should be wrapped upon many.

The righteousness of the one rather be wrapped upon many sinners. I think in the 16th century, Richard Hooker, the Puritan Richard Hooker said, you know, let it be counted folly or frenzy or whatever.

We care for no knowledge in the world but this, that men have suffered. You know, that man has become corrupt and then God has made man the righteousness of God in the God-man of Lord.

Jesus. Pastor Josh, although I, as I said earlier, we'd like Pastor Mike Riccardi to have the dominant say in our first hour, since he has to leave before the second hour, I'd still like you to chime in.

Do you have anything to add to what has already been said? And also, if you could comment on your theme, peace with God, one hope, one message, because in a day and age of rampant ecumenism, where we have false love affair relationships, if you will, between those that profess to believe in the gospel of the Reformation and those that actually dogmatically and officially reject that, tell us about this one hope and one message.

Yeah, yeah. Well,.

Certainly it's all based on understanding the reality of separation, which I believe has been lost. The weight of God's holiness and restoring that to the pulpit, restoring that to the mind of believers, language of ballast within their soul, and that was the weight within their soul.

There was a separation between the Creator and the creature, that there was an effect of sin and the mercy of God then becomes prized and valued. And then, so you have that aspect of it with when you preach reconciliation, it's beginning with the understanding of separation and unkind and restoring that sense.

And then, the hope of that, something in my position, understand and what that means. So, understanding initially, understanding the work of redemption, that spirit, and that for God to do redemption that has been accomplished by Christ, that He will never do that.

I believe that Christians move forward in their religion, even walking by the Spirit, until they have that understanding that their self-redemption accomplished by Jesus Christ. Those are two just practices that motivated some of my anticipation for the weekend.

Together. And we're going to be talking more about this subject, Peace with God, One Hope, One Message, which includes the glorious doctrine of reconciliation. We're going to be talking more about that after our first station break coming up.

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My name is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, and our guests today, if you just tuned us in, are Mike Riccardi, who is on staff at Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, the church pastored by renowned radio teacher, television teacher, and conference speaker and author John MacArthur.

And also joining us is Pastor Josh Miller of Grace Bible Fellowship Church in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, who is hosting a conference featuring Mike Riccardi this Saturday and Sunday titled, Peace with God, One Hope, One Message.

And this is a pre-recorded program today, unlike our normal live programs, so there would be no audience questions. Let's go over again, you mentioned earlier, the different segments of the conference, but these are such important themes.

I'd like you to be a little bit more detailed about them, Pastor Riccardi. Tell us about, again, the.

Brilliance of Christ's love. Yeah, so, you know, Paul begins, Paul laid his life down in the book of 2 Corinthians, the body and dying of Jesus. He outlines this, and he calls Christ as this beautiful diamond, turning the diamond.

He's right here in the next facet there, and they make up, to stand in our place and bear our curse. That he does that not merely to leave us in our sin, you know, with a different status, but he even sanctifies us.

He bore our sins in his body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness, new life into the dry, but that on.

The basis... And when it comes to the love of Christ, don't you think that many of our precious brethren, who we do love, and we count them as brethren, but who are outside of soteriologically reformed thought, don't you think that, although they would vociferously disagree, don't you think they diminish what the love of Christ really means, when they claim that Christ loves the unrepentant pagan, who will be in hell, in the same way, to the same measure, to the same degree, as he.

Loves his bride? Yeah, yes. What would that even mean? I can be loved and go to heaven. Somebody who he's going to pour out his wrath upon. If that's the case, then something about me, or something about the love of God, nothing about the love of God, makes a difference to me.

It's a fine thing to say, God loves you. Oh, I can be in hell forever. Then it's not the love of God. What is that something else, then, that distinguishes between erect and reprobate? What is it? And the law.

Will God give me that? Because I'd much prefer to be loved that way. You know, there is a wonderful.

Booklet that says something awesome and beautiful about the love of Christ. It's a booklet republished from one of J .C. Ryle's greater works, larger works, the great evangelical Calvinistic 19th century bishop, J .C. Ryle.

The booklet is Sickness, republished by Chapel Library. And there is, it opens up when it's referring to the loved ones of Lazarus, calling upon Christ for assistance to their dear friend. And the booklet by Ryle says, they call him, he whom thou lovest.

They do not say, he who loves Christ. Let me get this right in front of me here. They do not say, he who loves thee, believes in thee, serves thee, but whom thou lovest. Martha and Mary were deeply taught of God.

They had learned that Christ's love toward us and not our love towards Christ is the true ground of expectation and true foundation of hope. That's another thing that is a central issue of the Reformation and of the scriptures, is it not?

That our love for Christ is woefully inadequate, no matter what level of seasoned sanctification we ever reach on this earth, our love for Christ will always be woefully inadequate, whereas his love for us is perfect.

Yeah, absolutely right. I mean, upon my love for him, hey, I don't love God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength the way that he's worthy of. That's enough in my best to damn me and the human race.

It's not even the love, not even the faith of the sinner. It's the love of God. We don't make faith or love in the hand whereby we work of another. What Christ has done on our behalf.

Amen. And my dear friend, who you may be familiar with, Dr. James White of Alpha Omega Ministries, a brilliant Reformed Baptist scholar, theologian, apologist, debater. He once said something that is wonderfully connected to our discussion today.

And speaking of the false gospel of Rome, which is dogmatized at the Council of Trent in the 16th century, which was a response to the Reformation. Dr. White, and I'm paraphrasing because I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but he said, the peace with God that is offered by Rome, and to that matter, I would add any religion that professes to be Christian that rejects the gospel of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, to the glory of God alone.

The peace with God offered is not really a true, perfect, eternal, everlasting peace. It's merely a ceasefire that might have the appearance or the feeling of peace for a time, but it could erupt in a full-scale, full-blown war between God and man at any given moment.

That kind of a gospel really should not give anyone any kind of peace of mind, or encouragement, or confidence that Christ loves them, and that they are going to see him in heaven one day. I mean, it's really a horrible imitation of the gospel, isn't it?

Yeah, it's no gospel at all. I mean,.

Christ's condemnation makes his work to be insufficient. You could satisfy the wrath of God on one date, because to do, he ignited and rekindled over to break over my head once again, because on to my justification, I've lost my salvation.

You know, what does that say? That says that Christ did not really satisfy in any enduring the anger of the divine, that he's not.

Pleased. One of the things that is possibly repeated often in error, I may have even said something similar to this unintentionally, but when we think of the Reformation beginning in the church, we very often will allude to Martin Luther's nailing of the 95 Theses to the church door at Wittenberg as the beginning of the Reformation.

Well, there were really historic figures prior to Luther, even a century or more prior to Luther, that were beginning the work of Reformation, and one of these great heroes of the faith was John Hus, or Jan Hus, as he is probably more accurately, his name is more accurately pronounced, the Swiss Pre-Reformation Reformer.

Why is this figure a major part of your conference this weekend?

Well, I can speak to that. This is Josh. I am the one who's going to do the biographical sketch on John Hus, and just the light dawning about a hundred years before what we recognize as the Protestant Reformation, that there was John Hus as he began to exposit the scriptures clearly, and certainly, Mike, you can chime in here if you have any contribution from the life of John Hus, but seeing that the light never died out, but was shining even prior to Reformation, I just wanted to highlight that ministry, the clarity of the preaching of God's Word, and John Hus falling more in love with and defense of the person of Christ, the pioneer in Europe, domination, magisterium, before we get that word, to the people by the Pope, rejected that Christ alone, he paid for it.

He whined, you might cook, but you won't be able to stuff out.

That phrase that he uttered, Hus, that was a play on words, because his name itself means goose, doesn't it? Right. And before we say goodbye to our guest, Mike Riccardi, and keep in mind, folks, we are continuing for an additional hour with Josh Miller, but Mike could only be with us for the first hour of this broadcast today, but if you could, Mike, give us a bit more information on your message on new in Christ that you will be delivering this weekend.

And then when that happens, when God performs that miracle in our lives, Christ who once looked foolish, or mythical, or boring, or uninteresting, the light of the knowledge of the growth of that is not just a new view of Christ regarding Christ no longer, a great society where, born again, when he, because you were dead and thin, and he changes your view of Christ so that you don't regard him according to flesh, he also changes your view of everyone else regarding those people and those things, and yet in need of the gospel.

Well, we've got to say goodbye to Mike Riccardi now,.

And if anybody wants to get in touch with Mike Riccardi, his email address is outreach at gracechurch .org, outreach at gracechurch .org. You can also find out more about him and his ministry at Grace Community Church of Sun Valley, California at gracechurch .org forward slash local, gracechurch .org forward slash local.

Thank you so much, Mike Riccardi, for being on the program, and we look forward to you returning to this program in the future, not only soon, but frequently.

Thanks so much, Chris. I look forward to it, too, and it's a pleasure to be with you.

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